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MacRumors
Jun 25, 2009, 12:49 PM
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In its May 2009 Mobile Metrics (http://metrics.admob.com/2009/06/may-2009-mobile-metrics-report/) report released today, mobile advertising firm AdMob revealed that the iPhone and iPod touch now account for 69% of the U.S. smartphone traffic on its ad network. The figure is up from 59% in April (http://metrics.admob.com/2009/05/april-2009-mobile-metrics-report-mobile-web-vs-html/) and 50% in March (http://metrics.admob.com/2009/04/march-2009-metrics-report/). Worldwide, the iPhone and iPod touch now account for 49% of smartphone ad requests.
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/06/25/124210-smartphone_share_may.png
In a separate report (http://metrics.admob.com/2009/06/44-of-iphone-ad-requests-coming-from-the-30-os/) issued earlier this week, AdMob disclosed that 44% of iPhone ad requests through its network on Saturday, June 20th came from devices running iPhone OS 3.0, demonstrating significant adoption of the new operating system.
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/06/25/124210-iphone-os-june-22.jpg
Conversely, only 1% of iPod touch ad requests on that date came from devices running iPhone OS 3.0, signaling the chilling effect of the $9.95 upgrade fee on adoption rates. iPod touch users also have less incentive to upgrade from a feature-based perspective, as many of the high-publicity upgrades found in iPhone OS 3.0 are limited to the iPhone hardware.
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/06/25/124210-touch-os-june-22.jpg
As always, readers should note that this data is from a single advertising source (albeit the world's largest) and tracks ad requests, which is only one measure of wireless phone traffic. In fact, in a separate study (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2009/06/25/iphone-os-3-0-adoption-rate-soars/) of iPhone OS 3.0 adoption rates released this week, one iPhone developer saw up to 80% of its iPhone customers and 50% of its iPod touch customers using iPhone OS 3.0 by this past Monday.
Article Link: Apple's Share of U.S. Smartphone Ad Requests Grows, iPhone OS 3.0 Adoption Mixed (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/06/25/apples-share-of-u-s-smartphone-ad-requests-grows-iphone-os-3-0-adoption-mixed/)
Peace
Jun 25, 2009, 12:52 PM
Bit above the 1% Jobs wanted eh?
JBaker122586
Jun 25, 2009, 12:53 PM
Umm...
How is admob getting ad requests from devices running 1.x?
Aren't they an in-app advertising company?
angemon89
Jun 25, 2009, 12:54 PM
Of the 8% iPhone owners on OS 2.2, I bet 7.9% of those phones are unlocked. :p
I know lots of people on Tmobile who are on 2.2, and just don't care/know about 3.0 and its ability to be unlocked.
samac92
Jun 25, 2009, 12:54 PM
i feel sorry for the people still using 2.0, it must be such a pain
igazza
Jun 25, 2009, 12:56 PM
i feel sorry for the people still using 2.0, it must be such a pain
yea that keyboard lag was horrible
itcomesinwaves
Jun 25, 2009, 12:57 PM
I tried to update my girlfriend's iPod touch to 3.0, but I had trouble connecting to the update server. Going to try again once she moves into her new apartment.
co.ag.2005
Jun 25, 2009, 12:59 PM
I'm suprised some are still using 1.x
They must not care to have access to the app store
amac4me
Jun 25, 2009, 01:06 PM
This is a clear sign of adoption and trend. The growth of the iPhone will have a subsequent "halo" on Mac adoption over the next couple of years. :apple:
krizhek
Jun 25, 2009, 01:10 PM
I tried to update my girlfriend's iPod touch to 3.0, but I had trouble connecting to the update server. Going to try again once she moves into her new apartment.
I spent a good 30 min trying to purcase that update. I would think I bought it to find out that after accepting the new agreement it shot me back to the start. And one time where I think it bugged out and thought it had the update and went back to the sync screen without d/l the update.
(I have the first gen of the iPod Touch.)
Stewie
Jun 25, 2009, 01:12 PM
Bit above the 1% Jobs wanted eh?
I don't every remember him making a claim to wanting the biggest share of ad requests?
Howardchief
Jun 25, 2009, 01:12 PM
I don't like how they include ipod touches to smart phones... they aren't phones.
smileyborg
Jun 25, 2009, 01:13 PM
Interesting news. I personally chose not to upgrade my iPod touch 16GB (gen 1) to 3.0 because I had already preordered a new 32GB iPhone 3G S. So it doesn't make sense at all to buy 3.0 for the touch, especially considering that I will be selling it soon.
However, even if I was keeping the touch, the 3.0 upgrade price of $9.95 for it is pretty high, considering that there aren't any major features it brings for the iPod touch (unlike the past two $9.95 upgrades I have paid for -- the Maps, Notes, etc upgrade for 1.x, and the 2.0 App Store, etc upgrade). Granted, there are some nice updates and small changes/additions, but I really think it should be maybe $4.95 for the iPod touch due to the bulk of the 3.0 features applying to the iPhone only. Moreover, why should iPhone users get it for free? They get more features out of it, and it's not like Apple makes more money selling an iPhone vs an iPod touch and therefore needs to make up for it later...
Eraserhead
Jun 25, 2009, 01:13 PM
I think people will just take a little longer as they have to pay - don't they also have to go into the iTunes Store too to find it?
nagromme
Jun 25, 2009, 01:13 PM
Makes me wonder what demographic is doing the most viewing of AdMob-supported sites. 1% adoption sounds implausible, and other sources are reporting much higher (up to 50% adoption for the Touch--which also sounds implausible).
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Moreover, why should iPhone users get it for free? They get more features out of it, and it's not like Apple makes more money selling an iPhone vs an iPod touch and therefore needs to make up for it later...
I wouldn't go so far as to say "free" :p Our iPhones cost a LOT more than iPod Touches.
Dagless
Jun 25, 2009, 01:14 PM
Given that iPhone updates are free I wonder why people are still on the older, sub 2.0 versions? That seems daft to me given all the obvious benefits from 2.0 and 3.0.
I updated my folks iPod Touch to 3.0. Given they charge for a software update I can see why the adoption rate is so low.
zacman
Jun 25, 2009, 01:19 PM
Bit above the 1% Jobs wanted eh?
It was 1% of all phones sold. In 2008 Apple sold around 10 million iPhones. Total phone sold: a bit more than 1 billion. So Apple has a little less than 1% market share.
Saladinos
Jun 25, 2009, 01:21 PM
Conversely, only 1% of iPod touch ad requests on that date came from devices running iPhone OS 3.0, signaling the chilling effect of the $9.95 upgrade fee on adoption rates. iPod touch users also have less incentive to upgrade from a feature-based perspective, as many of the high-publicity upgrades found in iPhone OS 3.0 are limited to the iPhone hardware.
Except the ones that app developers are going to be using, such as:
- Core Data (that's a big one)
- GameKit (Peer-to-peer - granted, doesn't support 1G iPhone or 1G iPod touch)
- MapKit
- Hardware accessories
- In-app purchasing
- Push notifications
- Access to iPod library
- MessageUI (in-app email)
- Audio recording
- HTTP streaming video support
- CoreAudio enhancements, new data format support
- New UIKit APIs
If you don't upgrade to 3.0, you're going to lose out on loads of apps. I'm working on a few apps that make use of Core Data, for example, because it's just so darn convenient.
macduke
Jun 25, 2009, 01:23 PM
Bit above the 1% Jobs wanted eh?
Market share is not equal to browser share (or ad share). More people use the internet on the iPhone because it is easy to use (obviously).
Given that iPhone updates are free I wonder why people are still on the older, sub 2.0 versions? That seems daft to me given all the obvious benefits from 2.0 and 3.0.
I updated my folks iPod Touch to 3.0. Given they charge for a software update I can see why the adoption rate is so low.
Because some people buy the iPhone, hook it into iTunes, buy a couple songs, and then never sync it again. Although I think AT&T issued a free text announcing 2.x updates (can't remember which ones), some people still don't care or read the sites that describe all the cool new things they can do. Most likely it is older people who don't understand what a firmware update even is and assume it is very difficult to undertake. That or they just don't care because, well, it still beats the hell out of their old RAZR.
sam10685
Jun 25, 2009, 01:26 PM
Soon as T-mobile jumps on the iphone bandwagon, i'd gladly drop 2 or 300 bucks.
jaw04005
Jun 25, 2009, 01:29 PM
Because some people buy the iPhone, hook it into iTunes, buy a couple songs, and then never sync it again. Although I think AT&T issued a free text announcing 2.x updates (can't remember which ones), some people still don't care or read the sites that describe all the cool new things they can do. Most likely it is older people who don't understand what a firmware update even is and assume it is very difficult to undertake. That or they just don't care because, well, it still beats the hell out of their old RAZR.
I don't even think it's older people. I have friends with iPhones that never sync them to iTunes. One was complaining to me about Safari crashing on her iPhone. I asked if she updated her firmware, and got a blank stare.
It's the same reason people don't do their operating system updates, they just don't care.
Eraserhead
Jun 25, 2009, 01:34 PM
It was 1% of all phones sold. In 2008 Apple sold around 10 million iPhones. Total phone sold: a bit more than 1 billion. So Apple has a little less than 1% market share.
Apple sold more than 10 million iPhones in 2008 - they sold 10 million iPhones by October...
They must have sold at least 12 - 13 million which is more than 1% of the market.
BaldiMac
Jun 25, 2009, 01:34 PM
It was 1% of all phones sold. In 2008 Apple sold around 10 million iPhones. Total phone sold: a bit more than 1 billion. So Apple has a little less than 1% market share.
Your point still stands, but your numbers are off. 13.7 million iPhones were sold in 2008. Total phones sold was about 1.1 billion, so Apple had a little more than 1%.
macduke
Jun 25, 2009, 01:37 PM
It was 1% of all phones sold. In 2008 Apple sold around 10 million iPhones. Total phone sold: a bit more than 1 billion. So Apple has a little less than 1% market share.
Apple has sold 40 million (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/08/AR2009060802169.html) iPhones and iPod touches combined since launch in June 2007 (make that 41 million after last weekend).
WikiPedia states "The International Telecommunication Union estimated that mobile cellular subscriptions worldwide would reach approximately 4.1 billion by the end of 2008."
Now I'm not exactly sure if subscriptions and phones are equivalent in any way, but with those numbers, yes, Apple has about 1% worldwide market share. Good work.
NinjaHERO
Jun 25, 2009, 01:38 PM
Wow, I can't believe how much of the market the Iphone has. I can't think many people won't upgrade to 3.0. I bet in the next month it's almost everyone on 3.0.
jaw04005
Jun 25, 2009, 01:41 PM
Apple could easily fix the 3.0 adoption problem by pushing down over-the-air firmware updates like the Palm Pre, G1, etc.
So far, they've chosen not to do that.
Master Chief
Jun 25, 2009, 01:44 PM
Of the 8% iPhone owners on OS 2.2, I bet 7.9% of those phones are unlocked. :p
I know lots of people on Tmobile who are on 2.2, and just don't care/know about 3.0 and its ability to be unlocked.
Interesting isn't it; most people block ads on their computer, but can't on their iPhone and therefor this number (percentage actually) will change when they know how to do it – jailbreaking required.
Pugpuppydude
Jun 25, 2009, 01:45 PM
For the iPod touch, 3.0 speeds EVERYTHING up for me. I don't see why anyone wouldn't upgrade.
iOrlando
Jun 25, 2009, 01:47 PM
i have an ipod touch and i did not upgrade to 3.0.
personally, i think its lousy to charge ipod touch users for upgrades. Yeah yeah i know about the whole accounting/GAAP saga. No need to write that as any excuse.
Its just lousy. Every major upgrade...ipod touch owners have to pay 10 bucks while iphone users dont.
big loser out of this whole thing? the devs. You know there will be a chunk of ipod touch owners who wont upgrade it because a) they dont have 10 bucks b) they dont want to spend 10 bucks etc...
macduke
Jun 25, 2009, 01:54 PM
I don't even think it's older people. I have friends with iPhones that never sync them to iTunes. One was complaining to me about Safari crashing on her iPhone. I asked if she updated her firmware, and got a blank stare.
It's the same reason people don't do their operating system updates, they just don't care.
Yeah, my old roommate has an iPod Touch and he didn't know anything about 2.0 or all the cool app updates until I had asked him about it when I got back down to our apartment off campus last summer. We set it up so he could share all my sweet games and he was hooked.
To fix this problem I think Apple should make firmware updates appear in the app store just like app updates. A badge (1) should appear on the icon (along with a push notification) and when they open it says "iPhone software update 3.0 is available for download. Here is what it does . . . " and then either:
A. Allow them to download and install the update if they are on WIFI and connected to a power source or
B. Instruct them to connect their iPhone with iTunes as soon as possible to take advantage of these great new feature and stability improvements.
Either one of those would be a help, and the first option would also be a little more convenient...especially for those at work who have to wait all day long before they can get home and update. Not everyone works at a place cool enough to let them bring in their MBP and hook it up next to their pc. It also helps having a boss who is an Apple fanatic like mine...:D We had fun rockin our 3gs's (is that how you pluralize it?) together on Monday.
Apple could easily fix the 3.0 adoption problem by pushing down over-the-air firmware updates like the Palm Pre, G1, etc.
So far, they've chosen not to do that.
Whoops, didn't see your new comment, lol.
Great minds think alike (or is it think different?).
mattster16
Jun 25, 2009, 01:57 PM
This statistic just doesn't seem right to me. How can you combine the iPhone and iPod Touch and compare it to other smartPHONES? The percentage is skewed in favor of Apple by including the iPod. Granted I'm sure Apple would still have a greater percentage, but not this much greater.
"Apple's Share of U.S. Smartphone Ad Requests" - This implies a comparison of smartphones. If they wanna change the title to something like "Apple mobile OS ad requests", then it would be valid to include the iPod.
mattster16
Jun 25, 2009, 02:01 PM
Interesting isn't it; most people block ads on their computer, but can't on their iPhone and therefor this number (percentage actually) will change when they know how to do it – jailbreaking required.
most people huh? i doubt most people even know ads can be blocked on a computer
sidb
Jun 25, 2009, 02:02 PM
People viewing admob ads are generally using the free versions of apps, which means they tend to be cheapskates. It isn't surprising they haven't paid to upgrade their Touches. I bet way more than 1% of all iPod Touch users have upgraded if you include those who use non-ad-supported apps.
macduke
Jun 25, 2009, 02:03 PM
i have an ipod touch and i did not upgrade to 3.0.
personally, i think its lousy to charge ipod touch users for upgrades. Yeah yeah i know about the whole accounting/GAAP saga. No need to write that as any excuse.
Its just lousy. Every major upgrade...ipod touch owners have to pay 10 bucks while iphone users dont.
big loser out of this whole thing? the devs. You know there will be a chunk of ipod touch owners who wont upgrade it because a) they dont have 10 bucks b) they dont want to spend 10 bucks etc...
You will have to update eventually. I'm sure many apps will force you to have 3.0 if you want updates or to purchase new apps.
The real people who lose out are the people who have to pay huge chunks of money to AT&T. Granted, we get data, but the $10 is hardly anything compared to the life of our phone's bill. I think I'm going to buy 3.0 for my little sister's touch since she is 14 and has no money.
About the accounting rules...if they are that worried about it, charge $0.99 and be done with it. Unless there is something written about a fair market value price. Maybe it would be ruled an "unreasonably low price" and break the accounting rules? I don't know how any of it works, but that seems like a plausible scenario just from a logical perspective.
Doctor Q
Jun 25, 2009, 02:05 PM
I know why at least one iPod touch user didn't upgrade. He's a friend of mine and he finally decided to take the leap and buy an iPhone to replace his iPod touch. So Apple shouldn't worry about that lost iPod touch upgrade fee; they made more money this way!
BVGuitarPlayer
Jun 25, 2009, 02:12 PM
Yeah, this is BS and invalid data. They should re-release this in another week. Once Ultrasn0w has completely penetrated the market, you'll have better results in my opinion.
WickedRabbit
Jun 25, 2009, 02:13 PM
I don't every remember him making a claim to wanting the biggest share of ad requests?
My thoughts exactly. I think he was getting this survey confused with "Market Share". This is not Market Share, this is ad request. Completely different, people. L2Read.
There's probably a slightly more updated one, but here is a Market Share one and is only a few months old, which still shows Nokia in first, followed by RIM in second and Apple in third.
http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=910112
BaldiMac
Jun 25, 2009, 02:19 PM
About the accounting rules...if they are that worried about it, charge $0.99 and be done with it. Unless there is something written about a fair market value price. Maybe it would be ruled an "unreasonably low price" and break the accounting rules? I don't know how any of it works, but that seems like a plausible scenario just from a logical perspective.
The $10 charge is not picked at random. It has to do with offsetting the development costs of the iPhone OS that they are attributing to the iPod Touch.
ShiftyPig
Jun 25, 2009, 02:27 PM
The $10 charge is not picked at random. It has to do with offsetting the development costs of the iPhone OS that they are attributing to the iPod Touch.
The initial upgrade cost to add Mail, Weather, Stocks, and Notes was $19.95. So what you're saying is that the development costs for these attributed to the iPod touch is twice that of an entire OS? Right.
Apple is just trying to find a price point where people will upgrade and they can still make some $$$.
ajhill
Jun 25, 2009, 02:31 PM
What kind of silly survey includes iPods in the smartphone category?
Take out the iPods and then compare Apples to Apples ;-)
Read the book " How to lie with statistics" and wake up America!
BaldiMac
Jun 25, 2009, 02:50 PM
The initial upgrade cost to add Mail, Weather, Stocks, and Notes was $19.95. So what you're saying is that the development costs for these attributed to the iPod touch is twice that of an entire OS? Right.
Apple is just trying to find a price point where people will upgrade and they can still make some $$$.
First, you are comparing selling applications with an OS upgrade. They are not the same thing.
Second, there were many fewer iPod touches at that time to spread the cost over.
Eraserhead
Jun 25, 2009, 02:53 PM
What kind of silly survey includes iPods in the smartphone category?
Take out the iPods and then compare Apples to Apples ;-)
Read the book " How to lie with statistics" and wake up America!
The iPod touch runs the same OS, so for developers its the same thing.
manu chao
Jun 25, 2009, 03:03 PM
personally, i think its lousy to charge ipod touch users for upgrades. Yeah yeah i know about the whole accounting/GAAP saga. No need to write that as any excuse.
Its just lousy. Every major upgrade...ipod touch owners have to pay 10 bucks while iphone users dont.
Apple, in it own online stores, sells the iPhone 16 GB for €600, it sells the iPod touch 16 GB for €280 [in those European countries where the iPhone is sold unlocked].
The touch costs less than half of the iPhone and you complain about a measly $10?
andiwm2003
Jun 25, 2009, 03:17 PM
whatever the exact percentages are the iPhone has a major market share.
This will make webdesigners optimize their websites for safari. and developers will focus on apps for the iphone first.
i wonder how long it takes till apple brings us a netbook in some form to expand on that success.
i would be surprised if there wasn't a way to easily upscale Apps to a larger screen.
this could down the road be threatening to M$ because at some point iPhones will be used in the corporate sector.
BongoBanger
Jun 25, 2009, 03:29 PM
whatever the exact percentages are the iPhone has a major market share.
This will make webdesigners optimize their websites for safari. and developers will focus on apps for the iphone first.
Possibly. Worth pointing out these stats are largely worthless though as the vast majority of smartphones default to mobile site versions which aren't covered here.
Eraserhead
Jun 25, 2009, 03:39 PM
This will make webdesigners optimize their websites for safari.
The Palm Pre, Symbian and Android all use Webkit (which is the engine behind Safari) so optimising sites for Safari will also optimise for those browsers too.
Also the biggest other player in mobile browsing is Opera and they are also very standards compliant.
franzmueller
Jun 25, 2009, 03:41 PM
Got a iphone 3G with 3.0 and my 1st gen ipod touch is still on 2.2.1 , I see no need to upgrade since I use my touch only for games and music ....
10 bucks just to be able to write in landscape modus ? no thanks ...
Saludos
zacman
Jun 25, 2009, 03:44 PM
Apple has sold 40 million (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/08/AR2009060802169.html) iPhones and iPod touches combined since launch in June 2007 (make that 41 million after last weekend).
The ipod is obviously no phone. Apple sold 17 million (http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/161725/iphone_sales_hit_17_million.html) iPhones since June 2007 (end of March 2009. So by now it is between 18-20 million iPohnes). If your 40 million number was correct it would be less than 0.5% of market share.
Eso
Jun 25, 2009, 03:59 PM
Apple has sold 40 million (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/08/AR2009060802169.html) iPhones and iPod touches combined since launch in June 2007 (make that 41 million after last weekend).
WikiPedia states "The International Telecommunication Union estimated that mobile cellular subscriptions worldwide would reach approximately 4.1 billion by the end of 2008."
These are both true statistics, but seeing as iPod Touches are not smartphones, then it's 17 million iPhone sold worldwide (out of 4.1 billion total phones), meaning their marketshare is 0.41%.
Now, out of smartphones, they have about 11% worldwide. In the U.S., it's well over 20%.
The point of the article is really about mobile browsing, in which case the report really shows how great an experience it is on the iPhone.
inkswamp
Jun 25, 2009, 04:07 PM
What kind of silly survey includes iPods in the smartphone category?
Take out the iPods and then compare Apples to Apples ;-)
Read the book " How to lie with statistics" and wake up America!
This would be a lie if we were extrapolating this out to market share, but the focus here isn't mobile phone market share. The focus is which mobile platform is pulling in the most ad impressions. For that statistic, the presence of the iPod Touch is absolutely relevant because, in terms of ad requests/views/impressions, it's functionally identical to the iPhone.
And believe me, if you think the iPod Touch doesn't "count" when it comes to ad views, you've never worked in or around advertising people. I can guarantee you that there are people out there right now salivating over these numbers and not one of them gives a rip about splitting hairs over Apple's phone market share. Apple has a huge opportunity with this. I wonder how they'll take advantage of it.
mdelmarter
Jun 25, 2009, 05:12 PM
Conversely, only 1% of iPod touch ad requests on that date came from devices running iPhone OS 3.0, signaling the chilling effect of the $9.95 upgrade fee on adoption rates. iPod touch users also have less incentive to upgrade from a feature-based perspective, as many of the high-publicity upgrades found in iPhone OS 3.0 are limited to the iPhone hardware.
I find this comment hard to believe. Let's have some context on this. I come from the Windows Mobile world. My devices hardly ever have even minor OS updates made available for the devices, never mind major OS releases. To get the latest OS means purchasing a new device. And in the desktop world a new OS for $10 is a dream.
The main features of OS 3.0 are just as relevent to iPod Touch users as iPhone users. Spotlight, Copy and Paste, faster browsing are all obvious worthwhile enhancements.
And I can't beleive that nobody has mentioned the most obvious reason why 2nd Gen iPod Touch owners should upgrade:
[url]http://matthew.delmarters.com/weblog/iphone-os-30-nz1399/ (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/06/25/apples-share-of-u-s-smartphone-ad-requests-grows-iphone-os-3-0-adoption-mixed/)
"Every iPod Touch (2nd Gen onwards) has a Broadcom BCM4325 chip inside, which in addition to supporting WiFi also supports Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR. However the Bluetooth in the iPod Touch was disabled - until iPhone 0S 3.0. The upgrade has unlocked and enabled Bluetooth on the device. The hardware unlocking combined with the new API's made available to programmers in OS 3.0 allows the iPod Touch to talk to other iPods/iPhones for peer-to-peer gaming, exchanging data, and connectivity with 3rd party peripherals such as headsets, computers, speakers, car accessories, A2DP laptops/watches and more."
I definitely recommend that everybody who owns an iPod Touch 2nd Gen device does the upgrade. For $10 you get Bluetooth on your device and the latest features. You also stay in sync with the community so that you can take advantage of the latest software and the features developers will bring to life over the next few months.
http://matthew.delmarters.com/images/ipodtouch_bluetooth.gif
phlavor
Jun 25, 2009, 05:37 PM
My Dad has a 2G iPhone and I will bet that he has whatever OS it shipped with and will continue to have it until I fly across the country and update it for him. He also has never set up his voicemail. "If I have voicemail, people expect me to call them back."
kamiboy
Jun 25, 2009, 06:31 PM
I have a 1.1.4 and a 3.0.0 version iPhone here side by side and the 1.1.4 is twice as fast as the newer firmware in almost any task. It is mind boggling really, so what 3Gs is going to do is just give you back the speed that has been lost since 1.1.4. I for one am often annoyed at the extra second or so apps take to start up or do some task on my 3.0, which was the same on 2.2. It makes my phone feel very sluggish, reminds me of using those crappy N series Nokia phones, shudder. I am sad that the speed was not improoved at all in 3.0, very sad
Saladinos
Jun 25, 2009, 06:59 PM
Upgrading is not hard. Next time they stick their device in iTunes (often), they'll see the update message. In the UK, O2 sent mass text messages about the upgrade. I'd imagine most carriers did.
DELLsFan
Jun 25, 2009, 08:11 PM
Soon as T-mobile jumps on the iphone bandwagon, i'd gladly drop 2 or 300 bucks.
T-Mobile? Eww ... you know ... I honestly don't know much about the quality of their service, but I do know how frakking annoying the schmagoolies at the mall kiosks are EVERY time I happen to pass by one! Is there some new requirement that all US malls must now have at least four T-Mobile kiosks on each floor/wing of the mall?
Maserati7200
Jun 25, 2009, 10:10 PM
:confused:
An iPod Touch is not a smart phone, because, well, ITS NOT A PHONE. This is very misleading because an iPod Touch doesn't compete with a blackberry. Many of my friends have blackberries and iPod touches. iPod Touches don't make calls. They aren't phones.
twoodcc
Jun 25, 2009, 11:15 PM
this is great. and with the new iphone 3gs, the iphone numbers keep getting better
kdarling
Jun 25, 2009, 11:27 PM
this is great. and with the new iphone 3gs, the iphone numbers keep getting better
Why, do you work for a mobile ad agency? :)
Nothing like self-serving surveys. Look, we have lots of customers! Buy our ad space!
Who counts the phones that go to mobile or normal sites without ads...
alphaod
Jun 25, 2009, 11:29 PM
I personally do not know why I paid $10 for the 3.0 upgrade; I have not used any of the new features and some applications do not work on 3.0; basically I paid $10 for a step back.
At least they didn't charge me twice to upgrade 2 iPod touch devices.
billysea
Jun 25, 2009, 11:48 PM
I hope Apple's greedy approach to iPod Touch firmware upgrade will bite them in their ass.
As a 1st gen iPod Touch owner who paid $10 to upgrade to 2.0 last year, I feel cheated when they ask me to pay another $10 to get 3.0
Pika
Jun 26, 2009, 12:02 AM
I hope Apple's greedy approach to iPod Touch firmware upgrade will bite them in their ass.
As a 1st gen iPod Touch owner who paid $10 to upgrade to 2.0 last year, I feel cheated when they ask me to pay another $10 to get 3.0
Collect cans for cash.
The homeless people fall asleep in the public libraries and leave their sacks of cans just laying around in the non-fiction and periodical sections.
billysea
Jun 26, 2009, 12:28 AM
Collect cans for cash.
The homeless people fall asleep in the public libraries and leave their sacks of cans just laying around in the non-fiction and periodical sections.
Yeah everything Apple done is right and we should suck them all up, even for the homeless.
bloodycape
Jun 26, 2009, 12:40 AM
I find it interesting, that is say HTC, since HTC could mean their WM line or their Android line. I think it would have been more accurate to put WM as one, Android as another, and include Symbian(which I hear has the global market share something).
celtikmind
Jun 26, 2009, 07:49 AM
Collect cans for cash.
The homeless people fall asleep in the public libraries and leave their sacks of cans just laying around in the non-fiction and periodical sections.
Perhaps you should read some of the books and other publications in those sections instead of ripping off homeless people!
jpintobks
Jun 26, 2009, 09:21 AM
All indicators show that the iPhone is leading with a comfortable advantage to the pack in the back. I am a publisher that also publish electronic books. sales on the Apps store have being rising fast. Palm developer's kit is still on the works and Blackberry is not friendly for books.
No wonder the adds are targeting iPhone users.
Thank you for the report.
RMo
Jun 26, 2009, 10:07 AM
Of the 8% iPhone owners on OS 2.2, I bet 7.9% of those phones are unlocked. :p
I know lots of people on Tmobile who are on 2.2, and just don't care/know about 3.0 and its ability to be unlocked.
You mean 0.63% of all iPhone owners? ;)
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