Next-Generation iMacs to See Price Cuts? [Archive] - Page 2

AidenShaw

Jul 12, 2009, 11:44 AM

What's "security software"?

:D :D :D

Like I said, it's starting to get rather unfamiliar.

But hey, now I know. :cool:

That snarky reply shows that you don't understand.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/compare-editions

The "security software" is http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/bitlocker]BitLocker, disk encryption software so that if you lose your laptop or even USB thumb drives the thief (or finder) can't get your data.

Sehnsucht

Jul 12, 2009, 11:49 AM

That snarky reply shows that you don't understand.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/compare-editions

The "security software" is http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/bitlocker]BitLocker, disk encryption software so that if you lose your laptop or even USB thumb drives the thief (or finder) can't get your data.

Wasn't meant to be snarky, I promise. :)

Home Premium for me it is, then...

Saternoc

Jul 12, 2009, 06:16 PM

gunraidan

Jul 12, 2009, 08:27 PM

I'm really hoping for a spec upgrade. I mean I can understand why Macs cost so much, but if they will cost as much as they are now at least have some high end hardware (no quad core yet? seriously?)

MorphingDragon

Jul 13, 2009, 05:26 AM

So what... you think they just said "Hey! Screw New Zealand! Let's charge more!!!" :rolleyes: There's something factored in that you nor I see/know about.

Yes its called middlemen and its name is Renaissance NZ. No Apple does not control our economy... yet.

DMann

Jul 14, 2009, 01:04 AM

Recently my aunt's iMac screen went completely black. She took it to the apple store and they told her that it would cost her about $700.00. I started doing browsing around and found that iMac's esp. the 24 inch screens are susceptible to getting spots or lines running through their screens.
I was wondering if you knew if Apple took of this issue because I am considering purchasing a "desktop" Mac. Would I just be better off with a mac mini and a separate screen? I don't do professional photo editing or heavy gaming incase you were wondering. However I do like that the iMac has better graphics, a stronger processor, and more hard drive space.

How old is her unit? She can still purchase Apple Care for the iMac, up until three years from its purchase date - this way, it would be covered. I currently own a total of 9 24" iMacs, two of which were purchased in 2007 - never a problem or glitch with any of them to date.

Speaking of affordability, anyone know why the hell Windows 7 Ultimate is 320 bucks? I'd rather purchase Snow Leopard Ultimate for $29 - seems to be a better value.

windywoo

Jul 14, 2009, 02:53 AM

brag about your income and bash apple products...hmmm...maybe you are lost - this is a mac site.

of course it says something that one with so much hate spends so much time engaged with the object of their distaste...

Like all the posts here about Zune and Palm Pre perhaps?

DMann

Jul 14, 2009, 03:03 AM

The Mac Pro's case is bland and minimalist. A true phallic symbol would be something like this:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/63/200034370_cb7047cbda.jpg?v=0
A phallic blast from the past

butterfly0fdoom

Jul 14, 2009, 03:06 AM

How old is her unit? She can still purchase Apple Care for the iMac, up until three years from its purchase date - this way, it would be covered. I currently own a total of 9 24" iMacs, two of which were purchased in 2007 - never a problem or glitch with any of them to date.

Actually, you only have a year after the purchase date to buy and activate Applecare.

DMann

Jul 14, 2009, 03:10 AM

Actually, you only have a year after the purchase date to buy and activate Applecare.I didn't know that, thank you.

Thermistor

Jul 16, 2009, 06:52 AM

whats the chances the next-gen will have blu-ray?

zedsdead

Jul 16, 2009, 07:05 AM

whats the chances the next-gen will have blu-ray?

About 0%.

neil1980

Jul 18, 2009, 07:02 AM

whats the chances the next-gen will have blu-ray?

I'd love it if they did... but I'd be surprised :(

jackies35

Oct 7, 2009, 08:07 PM

Yes I do. It's much, much more comfortable to use a desktop. Yes, you could connect a keyboard and mouse and display to a laptop, and get the same result. But an iMac is much cheaper than that option, and I never take my laptop off my desk, it's silly to pick a laptop over an iMac. For outside the house, I use my iPhone :)

Hey, I didn't want any more heavy desktop because it took up space, the monitor was big and ugly, and it was heavy! hahhahha And you know that's was true!

Now, with iMac, it is something I want since I want to do more videos, web searching, and design websites (watch movies, create music, and edit videos)... I love photography and photoshop is something I am learning to master. The 24" iMac is a must!

my first 5 computers were desktop. They were heavy and I could never take it on the road...

So, Kudos to the pda, iphones, and handheld devices!

carolina17

Oct 7, 2009, 08:10 PM

About 0%.

Yep. Too soon

jackies35

Oct 7, 2009, 08:16 PM

I've been saving up for an iMac this would be great

I planned on purchasing an Imac.. Now that i see something new is coming out, I don't know what to do...

I thought the iMac for $1499 would be sufficient to create videos, edit videos, make movies, edit movies etc... I was told I would be better of with the $1799 (GeoForce GT120).

Now, I am hearing Quad i7 Core?? What the hell am I going to do with that??? I don't even own any Adobe software (Cs4, dreamweaver, Final cut pro)... I don't think anyone would need that much power???

Name one person that would need that type of power, except an professional music or video engineer... tell me one person on here needs that?? Ok, someone who loves gaming, ok maybe!

Name someone else and purpose?!?!? go ahead! hahahhaha

AidenShaw

Oct 7, 2009, 08:20 PM

About 0%.

Only because Apple (or its users) are stupid.

Buying a dual core desktop with a DVD today is like buying a rotary dial telephone....

beginnersview

Oct 7, 2009, 08:31 PM

...
Buying a dual core desktop with a DVD today is like buying a rotary dial telephone....

Well, not quite the same ... ;) ... hey, I used those years ago!

But, the message that it's time that Apple start producing their machines with better cpu / gpu on par with machines available from mass market windows vendors -- yes.
And not 'artificially' (my words) constrict or dumb-down their lower-end offering just to make the higher priced Macs seem better. (jmo)

And maybe even a BTO option for quad-core and BR optical (though I don't think I need it myself...)

These improvements would, in my estimation, make the Macs look much more appealing to buyers and esp. crossover switchers from PCs.

MrSEC

Oct 9, 2009, 12:35 AM

Only because Apple (or its users) are stupid.

Buying a dual core desktop with a DVD today is like buying a rotary dial telephone....

I must agree with you on this. I'm not going to say the users are stupid, I consider them to be sheepish,not stupid.

Buzz Bumble

Oct 9, 2009, 01:00 AM

So what... you think they just said "Hey! Screw New Zealand! Let's charge more!!!" There's something factored in that you nor I see/know about.
Yes its called middlemen and its name is Renaissance NZ. No Apple does not control our economy... yet. Yes its called middlemen and its name is Renaissance NZ. No Apple does not control our economy... yet.

Although prices are quite high here in New Zealand, the last time I checked they were actually higher in Australia. The opening of Apple's own online store for New Zealand did see the prices drop (along with Renaissance's stockmarket price). Renaissance also took a hit when companies were allowed to bypass "Apple NZ" and import direct from Apple Australia instead ... although I don't know how many actually do that.

The best prices for some models of Apple Macs in New Zealand is from the JB Hi-Fi branches and online store - in some cases the retail price is the same as the online Apple Store's education pricing! (No pre-installed yet Snow Leopard though.)

Eidorian

Oct 9, 2009, 01:07 AM

Buying a dual core desktop with a DVD today is like buying a rotary dial telephone....Only if it's cheap.

The Inspiron 546 with an Athlon X2 is a good deal for around $300. It even has HDMI out. Anything more than that and it goes to a Q8200 or Core i5 750.

MrBean

Oct 9, 2009, 02:47 AM

Only because Apple (or its users) are stupid.

Buying a dual core desktop with a DVD today is like buying a rotary dial telephone....

Not really. Honestly, name one thing that a dual core cannot do right now?

That's why I laugh at these must be quad core arguments. For the mass majority of apple consumers, dual core will be damn fine, even 3 years in the future.

Buzz Bumble

Oct 9, 2009, 07:31 PM

Not really. Honestly, name one thing that a dual core cannot do right now?

Access the third and fourth cores. ;)

That's why I laugh at these must be quad core arguments. For the mass majority of apple consumers, dual core will be damn fine, even 3 years in the future.

For the mass majority of computer users, a PowerPC G3 is more than adequate ... the only real problem is idiot web designers who only use the very latest toys on their websites.

MacDSmith2

Oct 9, 2009, 07:48 PM

The power utility I work for has over 1,000 IBM laptops for all kinds of people doing everything from engineering, and software development to web sites and graphic arts. Not one of them has a quad core in it and they all work just fine on the latest techological developments. All Apple really needs is a little tweak in mHz, memory and Hdd space, plus perhaps Blu-Ray and HDMI, to be quite nicely positioned for the next 18 months.

AidenShaw

Oct 9, 2009, 08:12 PM

The power utility I work for has over 1,000 IBM laptops...

Does no one in your company have a desktop or workstation? Is everyone happy using a laptop for whatever task they're assigned?

But you're right, if Apple wants the Imac to compete with laptops, it's well positioned.

On the other hand, Dell is selling 3 GiB Core i5 quads for $699.

Eidorian

Oct 9, 2009, 09:01 PM

Does no one in your company have a desktop or workstation? Is everyone happy using a laptop for whatever task they're assigned?

But you're right, if Apple wants the Imac to compete with laptops, it's well positioned.

On the other hand, Dell is selling 3 GiB Core i5 quads for $699.It looks like the Core i5 750 systems had their prices adjusted against the older XPS 435 MT that was dropped and the XPS 9000 takes over.

On the business side the Vostro 430 has appeared as well. Under P55 it's amazing how much power you can fit into a Micro ATX system. At 95W for the processor and dropping the northbridge, they're much cooler systems.

MacDSmith2

Oct 9, 2009, 09:13 PM

Does no one in your company have a desktop or workstation? Is everyone happy using a laptop for whatever task they're assigned?

There are a few older desktop machines, but most people rush to give them up to get the thinkpad notebooks.

Yakuza

Oct 12, 2009, 05:04 AM

iMacs are brilliant, but ridiculously overpriced. I almost feel ashamed when someone asks me how much i paid for mine

Ayzee don't complaint about the iMac pices there lolol.

Do you know how much do they cost here in Portugal, let me tell you.

for axample, i'm gaddering money to buy an iMac 24' 3.06Ghz...woopie!

in the US it costs 2,199.00 USD thats equivalent to 1,492.34 EUR, this price is little bit more higher then the iMac 24' 2.66Mhz here. Do want to know what's the price for the 24' 3.06Ghz?? lolol

ready??

2,099.00 EUR. Thats 3,092.60 USD......for ******* sake!

i might as well sell my body to buy this! :o

oh well...gotta get back to work now! :cool:

Shivetya

Oct 12, 2009, 05:13 AM

A $500 drop? I don't think so. I hope you already know that Apple rarely drops the prices on anything for any reason. There was a time when prices just went down and you could get an iMac for $800 :).

I'll have to look into it, but it seems to me that when Apple computers, or their GUI, were first introduced they were expensive, i.e. the Lisa. Then they got cheap, i.e. the iMac G3. And now they're on the upswing again. Just a theory. Computers haven't been around long enough to tell.

2K dual processor Mac Pro using standard memory would work for me a 1999, even without the video card

Buzz Bumble

Oct 12, 2009, 03:33 PM

iMacs are brilliant, but ridiculously overpriced. I almost feel ashamed when someone asks me how much i paid for mine

Macs aren't "ridiculously overpriced".

If you check the specs you'll find that most "cheapo" PCs are ridiculously under-spec'ed in comparison. Just a quick flick through the lastest catalogue from the local electronics chain store shows that - slower chips, worse graphics cards, etc. and that's without the inclusion of the Mac's webcam, not having to deal with the idiocies of Windows like viruses, etc. The only way Windows PCs work out cheaper (in the initial purchase price) is because they often bundle in "freebie" things like printers, wireless keyboard / mouse, laptop bags, etc. ... but you're still stuck with Windows and the "freebies" often aren't particularly good quality anyway.

For the iMac, there's very little competition anyway. I think one model from Dell and one from Hewlett Packard is about all there really is that is remotely similar.

In all cases, if you buy a "cheap" Windows PC, you end up with what you paid for - garbage, and that's especially true of the "cheapo" no-name brands.

AAPLaday

Oct 12, 2009, 03:36 PM

Of course Apple are going to cut the price on the next iMacs. They cant charge current prices for all in ones that use the Atom CPU. I jest i jest :p

SpaceKitty

Oct 12, 2009, 03:37 PM

In all cases, if you buy a "cheap" Windows PC, you end up with what you paid for - garbage, and that's especially true of the "cheapo" no-name brands.

Not true. Three years ago, I bought a HP 15" laptop that is equivalent to my month old MBP in specs. The HP laptop has been one of the best laptops that I have ever owned. I still use it everyday just as much as my MBP. It's been upgraded to Vista and runs it like it was built to do so, it came with XP. That HP cost $700 at CircuitCity back then.

jmpage2

Oct 12, 2009, 03:41 PM

Not true. Three years ago, I bought a HP 15" laptop that is equivalent to my month old MBP in specs. The HP laptop has been one of the best laptops that I have ever owned. I still use it everyday just as much as my MBP. It's been upgraded to Vista and runs it like it was built to do so, it came with XP. That HP cost $700 at CircuitCity back then.

I have a high end Dell, high end IBM and high end Sony sitting here in my office. They still don't hold a candle to the MBP. Part of it is the superb hardware. Light weight and super strong chassis. Great looking LED lit screen. Battery that goes forever. Superb glass trackpad with gesture control.

The other part of it is OS X. Saying good bye to virus scans, spyware scanners, dozens of application and OS updates every week.

If you are happy with your Vista laptop that's great. You aren't going to convince many though that it matches the experience of a MBP.

yanquis

Oct 12, 2009, 03:48 PM

jmpage, i have to say you convinved me earlier about the MBP. im still going to hold off until they update again to buy one cuz i dont need a laptop right now, but i agree that the extra features (+ OSX obv) make it worthwhile & the best laptop around for 99% of people (some are proabbly going to need one that can handle very heavy CPU load). i looked into it some more and it really is an amazing machine. you kind of have to watch the video reviews to get it. its the best example of what people mean here when they say an apple product is much more than its spec sheet. while i still disagree on some of their products the MBP is definitely not one of them.

jmpage2

Oct 12, 2009, 03:54 PM

AidenShaw

Oct 12, 2009, 04:44 PM

For the iMac, there's very little competition anyway. I think one model from Dell and one from Hewlett Packard is about all there really is that is remotely similar.

You shouldn't "think", you don't seem to be very good at it. Try "researching" instead.

Gateway (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2353892,00.asp) and Asus and Sony (http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644671994&N=4294954311) also have all-in-ones that are even multi-touch.

http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/21/0,1425,sz=1&i=214082,00.jpg

MacObsession

Oct 13, 2009, 02:31 AM

Microsoft is laughing their ass off about this. Clearly Microsoft's commercials, along with a slowing economy, have had an impact on Apple's pricing strategy. And Apple realizes that Window 7 has significantly narrowed the gap at the OS level and must do something to keep their 8% market-share and noT loose ground.

:eek:

I'll believe it when I see it, I know nothing about W7, buy if it still has a registry similar to earlier versions, W7 will retain windows biggest flaw, IMO, the accumulation of useless instructions within the registry, slowing the speed of the OS as it ages on your desk
Never again for me, the Mac OS is far superior to MS, even if it means paying a few extra bucks to keep a machine with a Mac OS, I'll gladly fork over the money, my time is worth something and I have spend countless hours trying to get things to work on PC, those days are over for me.

albusseverus

Oct 13, 2009, 02:46 AM

You shouldn't "think", you don't seem to be very good at it. Try "researching" instead.

Gateway (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2353892,00.asp) and Asus and Sony (http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644671994&N=4294954311) also have all-in-ones that are even multi-touch.

http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/21/0,1425,sz=1&i=214082,00.jpg

These are just ugly. No wonder iMacs sell so well. Touch isn't going to work standing up, after Apple's tablet changes the print industry -forever-, we'll be acclimatised to laying a computer down and iMacs will get a horizontal form factor. Then- you'll see touch computing.

Meanwhile, looks like the 13th date has come and gone, the Apple Store hasn't gone down and Steve Jobs hasn't demoed iLife '10 or iWork '10. Maybe it will just be minor upgrades and a price cut.

Wouldn't hurt, Apple…

Save iLife & iWork for CES and some fancy version that runs on the tablet, Steve.

MorphingDragon

Oct 13, 2009, 02:54 AM

MacObsession

Oct 13, 2009, 02:56 AM

Ayzee don't complaint about the iMac pices there lolol.

Do you know how much do they cost here in Portugal, let me tell you.

for axample, i'm gaddering money to buy an iMac 24' 3.06Ghz...woopie!

in the US it costs 2,199.00 USD thats equivalent to 1,492.34 EUR, this price is little bit more higher then the iMac 24' 2.66Mhz here. Do want to know what's the price for the 24' 3.06Ghz?? lolol

ready??

2,099.00 EUR. Thats 3,092.60 USD......for ******* sake!

i might as well sell my body to buy this! :o

oh well...gotta get back to work now! :cool:

Is it possible for a friend to buy one in the US and send it to you?

Shivetya

Oct 13, 2009, 05:17 AM

These are just ugly. No wonder iMacs sell so well. Touch isn't going to work standing up, after Apple's tablet changes the print industry -forever-, we'll be acclimatised to laying a computer down and iMacs will get a horizontal form factor. Then- you'll see touch computing.

Actually up until this recent Gateway model they haven't been feature and price competitive. I found most non Apple AIO to be missing out on the discreet graphics that many iMacs had, let other options for the price they were at.

Now this Gateway is beyond silly in what it offers for hardware. Quad Core, 8gb RAM, 64gb SSD, 1gb ATI discreet, AND 1TB drive? For 1399?

If anything I hope for more developments like this as it might nudge Apple

Yakuza

Oct 13, 2009, 05:35 AM

In fact there is MacObsession, there's a friend of mine going to NY in december, but my primarely question is the warranty and the reciept of the purshuse (financial issues :p) if it's valid here in portugal, and the major one, if i have that kind of money in december :rolleyes:

Nic0

Oct 13, 2009, 06:37 AM

Ayzee don't complaint about the iMac pices there lolol.

Do you know how much do they cost here in Portugal, let me tell you.

for axample, i'm gaddering money to buy an iMac 24' 3.06Ghz...woopie!

in the US it costs 2,199.00 USD thats equivalent to 1,492.34 EUR, this price is little bit more higher then the iMac 24' 2.66Mhz here. Do want to know what's the price for the 24' 3.06Ghz?? lolol

ready??

2,099.00 EUR. Thats 3,092.60 USD......for ******* sake!

i might as well sell my body to buy this! :o

oh well...gotta get back to work now! :cool:

In France, it's 2099€ too, but I think it's the same in Portugal, it include Taxes, and in the US it's 2199$ whithout Taxes

So, 2099€ with 19,6% taxes (in France, don't now for Portugal), it's 1687€ whithout taxes, and 1687€ --> 2480$, so we are ******* on "only" 280$

Yakuza

Oct 13, 2009, 06:54 AM

In France, it's 2099€ too, but I think it's the same in Portugal, it include Taxes, and in the US it's 2199$ whithout Taxes

So, 2099€ with 19,6% taxes (in France, don't now for Portugal), it's 1687€ whithout taxes, and 1687€ --> 2480$, so we are ******* on "only" 280$

I think the price is the same in Europe. Here the taxes are at 21% lolol nice isn't it!

Nic0

Oct 13, 2009, 07:24 AM

I always like taxes in Europe …

It's more than 2pm, looks like the news products aren't for today

Yakuza

Oct 13, 2009, 07:42 AM

i guess we all gonna have to wait till next tuesday, particularly i'm not in such hurry, well i am just for the thrill of seeying what's new, but my focus is for to buy one and as I'll just buy in the end of the year, early 2010 i can wait....have to lol

PeterQVenkman

Oct 13, 2009, 08:47 AM

Is it possible for a friend to buy one in the US and send it to you?

It's very hard to sneak that by customs without paying some kind of fee or tax in Europe. I sold a license to my software at about $2000 and tried to just send the discs to my buyer in the UK. He had to fight tooth and claw to not get his "second hand item" taxed out the wazoo.

Yakuza

Oct 13, 2009, 09:20 AM

yes it's true.

More, a few days ago in the news here in portugal they where talking about the people who came from US they where searched if they where bringing electronic gadgets bought in the US, iPhone specifically :p :p even the pilots where searched, they kind wanna stop that.

And bringing an 24' iMac...not sure where to put it. I guess the old "ohh..i'm just happy to be back" wouldn't be enough!

i might as well wait (commun feeling around here lolol), to buy here

DDave

Oct 14, 2009, 10:25 AM

It's very hard to sneak that by customs without paying some kind of fee or tax in Europe. I sold a license to my software at about $2000 and tried to just send the discs to my buyer in the UK. He had to fight tooth and claw to not get his "second hand item" taxed out the wazoo.

You also have to be careful taking hardware outside the US. There is a US Federal Law about taking technology purchased in the States outside the states. I just don't want to see anyone get in trouble.