I got to use Long Horn!

[musicpyrite]

wow. all i gotta say is wow.

I got invided over to my firends (his name is Rafael) house today, and he said he had a surprize for me. guess what it was? LongHorn. I got to try it out, and I can deffinatly say (if it was releced tommrow) it will give 10.3 a VERY good run for its money. There isn't as much bloating as you would think. He sent me some pictures over AIM.

To prove these pics are legit: look at the date in all the long horn pics. and compair it to the time and date at which this post was made.
Look at the menu bar. It has AIM on it with the AIM address of ************. if you look at my profile, my AIM address is THAT!

looks like micro$oft did something sorta-right this time

If you have any questions feel free to ask me, but unfortunatly i cant stay up all night answering posts, i have exams tommrow, but i should be back on the forums at 3 PM Eastern time (usa)


(dont flame me)

[musicpyrite]

[pinto32]

hmmm.....while it does have a much more pleasing look than XP, this is most likey the "low end" interface (out of the three that are being developed and ultimatley released, in order to accomidate varying hardware levels). It is almost identical to XP, and does not appear to be much of an advancement. The time of truth will be when the two new interfaces are shown....those will surley tax our CPUs and infringe on plenty of Apple patents :rolleyes:

One question though, did you play with the file system at all?

[janey]

god i wish Microsoft would hurry up and release Longhorn soon...Gawd I can't wait until 2006-7....BAHHH
Yeah, Longhorn is pretty nice...but it seems like an OS X sort of thing, copied yet again by Microsoft.
Bah, imitation is the highest form of flattery.../me sighs

[pinto32]

...speaking of patent infringments.....if that last pic is of Longhorn, than I think Apple Legal might have some very good grounds for a lawsuit :D


(for the record, I do realize that it is OS X)

[janey]

One question though, did you play with the file system at all?
What is there to play with? Longhorn is still using NTFS iirc, because WinFS isnt ready yet, and Microsoft, unbelievably, still wont be able to include what they originally wanted in WinFS with the final release of Windows, even with a little bit of luck.

[Thomas Veil]

http://users.adelphia.net/~tjveil/images/recyclebin.jpg

Say, that Recycle Bin looks *ahem*... *ahem!!!*...familiar.

[blue&whiteman]

http://users.adelphia.net/~tjveil/images/recyclebin.jpg

Say, that Recycle Bin looks *ahem*... *ahem!!!*...familiar.

ya just a little huh? total rip off

[Kingsnapped]

Glass bottles don't do well in wire baskets...

Kinda lost the idea of a "recycle bin," didn't they?

[voicegy]

Yes, I was going to mention that recycle bin myself. Complete rip off. As well as the gel pill-like minimized buttons at the bottom.

And what's up with that awful clock thing on the right? I feel like I'm working on a computer at a Black Angus. :rolleyes:

[Flowbee]

I got to try it out, and I can deffinatly say (if it was releced tommrow) it will give 10.3 a VERY good run for its money.

You mean MS might actually release an OS in 2 years that's as good as OS X is today? All I can say is... wow.

[kylos]

All I see is more eye-candy thrown onto the same dysfunctional windows interface, with a sidebar that mostly just takes up a lot of space.

[Doctor Q]

All I see is more eye-candy...The candy coating certainly stopped short of the disk info window. That disk space pie chart is horrible.

[IIvan]

Thats pretty interesting- Id really like to see what the more advanced interfaces they are working on are- if they'll actually come up with anything really cool.

Is there any way to get rid of that ugly-ass clock?

[jaw04005]

ya just a little huh? total rip off

Well first of all this is not the latest alpha release of longhorn, this is an earlier build that your friend probally got off of a P2P network, unless he is a legit MSDN member.

We have the latest Longhorn in our labs for testing, and the cheap aqua interface is no longer present--it has been replaced by a darker blue theme and a slate theme. You can see both *current* themes at www.winsupersite.com.

As of now, Longhorn is not feature complete and Microsoft keeps taking promoted/promised *features* out of Longhorn due to "time constraint". These early Alpha builds of Longhorn much like the early builds of Whistler (aka XP) will not be anything like the shipping version.

[Fukui]

Wow? Um... OK.

[michaelrjohnson]

Wow, that's even uglier than the earlier builds. I actually REALLY liked the earlier ones (all dark blue, with very subtle defining lines)... but the pseudo Mac OS X 10.0.0 Aqua-style buttons are just ugly.

Ah well.

[eyeon]

hmmm... well... more power to 'em. I for one still think it's ugly as all hell, but that's just one man's opinion.

Thanks for the post nonetheless.

[edesignuk]

FAKE!

That is Windows XP with a Longhorn theme and sidebar app. There are even Longhorn conversion kits out there for XP now.

I have the latest Alpha of Longhorn, it sucks! Not to say it won't be good when it's complete, but they are currently in the very early stages, and it's still ***** (as you'd expect from anything in alpha release).

[edesignuk]

http://users.adelphia.net/~tjveil/images/recyclebin.jpg

Say, that Recycle Bin looks *ahem*... *ahem!!!*...familiar.
And the reason for this? it's an icon set for WinXP, which goes with my conclusion in my last post :rolleyes:

[G5orbust]

You mean MS might actually release an OS in 2 years that's as good as OS X is today? All I can say is... wow.

Thats so right on so many levels all I can say is...wow.



god i wish Microsoft would hurry up and release Longhorn soon...Gawd I can't wait until 2006-7....BAHHH
Yeah, Longhorn is pretty nice...but it seems like an OS X sort of thing, copied yet again by Microsoft.
Bah, imitation is the highest form of flattery.../me sighs

Its also the highest form of copyright infringment ;) :p

[edesignuk]

http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14068&stc=1&thumb=1
Anyone wanna guess why the OS version is painted out???

[bastardx]

wow. all i gotta say is wow.

looks like micro$oft did something sorta-right this time
...
(dont flame me)

Well, I usually don't take people who spell Microsoft with a '$' very seriously, but I will bite this time. It looks similar to the longhorn beta, but that wouldn't be hard to do using Windows XP and 3rd party applications. I would like to see that person, open the command prompt, and not photoshop out the version output, so that I can see what version of NT the system is running. Because I have my doubts that something that doesn't act bloated, unstable, etc.. is truly a beta release, which is what longhorn's current state is.

[iJon]

yeah that might be fake. i have one of the latest versions of longhorn and it has a brown/gray slate look to it. that looks like xp with a new color.

iJon

[virividox]

i hope it crashes :) when they demo it

[Darwin]

This really looks like XP to me, I've seen the Alpha demos of Longhorn and they have a few differences :rolleyes:

Also I prefer it in the Black/Gray colouring, this Blue theme is just too much, makes it look cheap and rushed

[edesignuk]

yeah that might be fake
No question, it is fake.

[ColoJohnBoy]

Huh. The IE icon is kind of nifty.

:cough:

Moving on...

[ToddW]

yeah it is definately a fake. It is a combination of either window blinds/style XP and samurize or some other junk like that.

[edesignuk]

Can't say I understand why exactly this has been faked, it's not like it's hard to get a copy of a genuine copy of the current build (4074?) :confused: :rolleyes:

[Kid Red]

Real or fake, why the aqua buttons everywhere?

Secondly, it seems to have 2 many styles. Bubbly aqua like and smooth tech like. Not sure the combination of the two extremes?

[Laslo Panaflex]

Yes, this is a Fake, not longhorn at all. And just for the record, build 7074 the current Alpha, Alpha sucks. It has a horrible memory leak in explorer in which your computer slows to a hault after being on for a day. Plus, you can enbable nifty 3D effects, but they are run in software only, and are verey slow.

Longhorn is not going to come out anytime soon, and if they decided to release it tomorrow, all I could say is WOW, microsoft has gone insane, because NO ONE will buy it.

[MorganX]

It amazes me that people enjoy doing this fake version screen stuff. You want the longhorn your friend has, visit www.stardock.com and download object desktop, windowsblinds, iconpackager, and windowsfx. :cool:

[rueyeet]

All I see is more eye-candy thrown onto the same dysfunctional windows interface, with a sidebar that mostly just takes up a lot of space.Which would make sense, if those shots are just a dolled-up installation of XP. The sidebar WAS in the screenshots I had seen earlier at winsupersite.com, though. Takes up a lot of room doing pretty much the same stuff as the menubar icons do in a fraction of the space in OS X. And there's no way you'll ever get me to prefer the Taskbar over the Dock.

[SiliconAddict]

DAMN! Beat me to it. That IS XP. Your friend is BSing you. All the screen shots I'm seeing are based on Longhorn themes for Windows XP. Example:
http://www.themexp.org/screenshots/large/vs/16130.jpg

10 bucks that he is running either style XP or the more likely Stardock's Object Desktop that is a suite of apps designed to tweak the **** out of Windows GUI the reason I'm guessing the latter is because of the diff icons. He's probably using icon packager to get them. I have gotten my desktop so close to looking like OSX Panther that a few friends who are Mac users would swear I'm running OX X.

Also another tipoff is the fact that your friend grayed out the system properties and didn't leave the longhorn build number. Finally, at least on my copy on the desktop it displays the Longhorn build number on the lower right corner. Its not there.

[Mantat]

EH.. am I the only person to notice that this guy has a pirated copy of Mean girls?

[musicpyrite]

Thanks for all the replies guys (and gals), and for not flaming me too much ;) and sorry for not repling so soon, we had finals today in biology (I suck in bio)

Well some of the posts say that it is a skin of XP, and the more I think about that, the more I question his 'ethics.'

I'll see if I can go over to house and check it out, if its a fake, I will kick his @$$ extra good for all members of MacRumors. :D

By the way this *might* be legitiment, my firend is a HUGE MS fan. His father works for Microsoft, and I know what he does is important, althoug I don't know the specifics.

I did a quick search of LimeWire, and, well... I think some MS emplyee has installed LimeWire on his comp. :eek: :D

I'll get back to you about the legitimacy of the OS.

[nyprospect]

I think its just a skin.I downloaded a theme like this a year ago. called plex.they also have agua slash plex or applexp.which is an oxymoron to say the least.

[iJon]

Thanks for all the replies guys (and gals), and for not flaming me too much ;) and sorry for not repling so soon, we had finals today in biology (I suck in bio)

Well some of the posts say that it is a skin of XP, and the more I think about that, the more I question his 'ethics.'

I'll see if I can go over to house and check it out, if its a fake, I will kick his @$$ extra good for all members of MacRumors. :D

By the way this *might* be legitiment, my firend is a HUGE MS fan. His father works for Microsoft, and I know what he does is important, althoug I don't know the specifics.

I did a quick search of LimeWire, and, well... I think some MS emplyee has installed LimeWire on his comp. :eek: :D

I'll get back to you about the legitimacy of the OS.

ask him to just boot up the machine, it should have a nice longhorn loading screen.

iJon

[NusuniAdmin]

This is totally fake. I have the same theme on my windows xp on VPC. I beleive its called "LonghornXP"

[jxyama]

what's even worse is the fact just the eye candies was enough to convince someone that longhorn is "better" than xp.

i'm more interested in if longhorn will address a lot more fundamental problems with windows, like security, dll hell, registry mess, etc. (and please, even xp only managed to kluge to "fix" the dll hell.)

for all i care, eye candies are gimmicks. microsoft should concentrate on improving the OS design itself before spending time prettying it up - because how stupid will they look when their pretty OS gets deployed but a worm takes over in the first week, bringing longhorn to its knees?

[patrick0brien]

-All

I smell an extension of the same we have now in regards to OS supporting and promoting actions that seem tailored to those with attention deficit disorder. One of the reasons why I like my Macs is that it does not throw a plethora of ads, adware "Did you know"s, Clippy, etc. at me. If I want to do something, I invoke it - the machine doesn't try to think for me.

[SiliconAddict]

ask him to just boot up the machine, it should have a nice longhorn loading screen.

iJon


Hehe. You can't be safe with that either........... :)

[quagmire]

I am looking very close into longhorn. I ordered Pc magazine and look at microsoftwatch. They are both saying the release of longhorn won't be intill 2007 at the earliest. They really expect it in 2009-2010.

[Backtothemac]

Yea, I was about to say the same thing that is it is fake as hell. That is Window blinds, and object bar. That is all.

To see real video and pictures go to www.winsupersite.com

Not that any of us care about Winbloze anyway. :rolleyes:

[Fukui]

Yea, I was about to say the same thing that is it is fake as hell. That is Window blinds, and object bar. That is all.

To see real video and pictures go to www.winsupersite.com

Not that any of us care about Winbloze anyway. :rolleyes:

And don't forget, MS is sooooo original!!!
http://www.winsupersite.com/images/reviews/winhec2004_2_23.jpg

Hmm, looks like an iMac reject mixed with an iPod...

http://www.winsupersite.com/images/reviews/winhec2004_2_24.jpg
If these are the way PC's are supposed to be, apple is in good direction!

[Les Kern]

Yea, I was about to say the same thing that is it is fake as hell. That is Window blinds, and object bar. That is all.

To see real video and pictures go to www.winsupersite.com

Not that any of us care about Winbloze anyway. :rolleyes:

It was entertaining watching folks comment on a fake. I put the same theme on my HP 1.0GhZ laptop 6 months ago... just about slowed to a stop. I had to remove it pronto because just having a browser window redraw was agonizingly slow.
That said, MS DOES have an opportunity with the new OS, but remember, OSX has a lead on developing on them. By the time Longhorn makes it to a user's desktop, X will be XII, and no doubt very mature.
I hope.
If MS wins, they own the web.

[aswitcher]

Ok so its a Tofu bison. ;)

Someone wake me up when the real cow of an operating system arrives :rolleyes:

[sushi]

-All

I smell an extension of the same we have now in regards to OS supporting and promoting actions that seem tailored to those with attention deficit disorder. One of the reasons why I like my Macs is that it does not throw a plethora of ads, adware "Did you know"s, Clippy, etc. at me. If I want to do something, I invoke it - the machine doesn't try to think for me.
Agreed, I feel the same.

I work on 10.3, Win2K and XP every day. 10.3 is always there to help me do what I want. Win2K makes me work to get what I want done. And XP just pesters me.

But that's just me.

Sushi

[Sweetfeld28]

look at the fourth longhorn pic. in the upper left-hand courner, where it says music tasks (i think), they are using the old iTunes logo (the blue colored music note v.3?); aren't they?

i think that they are.

[3-22]

Funny: Falling for a "hacked" Windows XP with a Longhorn look.

Funnier: Posting a screen shot with a copy of a pirated movie on your desktop.

:)

I know this isn't the message board for Microsoft. But having to use Microsoft crap at work I hope Longhorm brings some cool new things. Not just eye candy, but god knows XP could use some jazzing up. They had some really cool things mentioned in an article I read, but I then read a later article saying they were pulling a lot out of the plan. So it appears to get it out the door sometime in the next descade they pulled most of the stuff that seemed revolutionary. (well revolutionary for windows anyway)

Oh well, when it's all said and done it will probably be a service pack for XP.

They want to go to managed code and everything, but are so afraid of breaking the thousands of programs for Windows. So they must lug around all the legacy crap under the hood going back to Windows 98... (maybe even 3.1)

[musicpyrite]

Funny: Falling for a "hacked" Windows XP with a Longhorn look.

Funnier: Posting a screen shot with a copy of a pirated movie on your desktop.

:)



hahah, by the time I realized I posted that, It was too late. (BTW, it was for my sister, shes 11 and loves that kind of junk, I'm more of a Kill Bill type of guy)

Turns out it was a hacked Windows XP with a Longhorn look. I sure wooped his but good; I *almost* told his father about the 10+ GB of p0rn on his HD, ironic because he just got a 120 GB Hitachi HD (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-145-057&depa=0) . I'm really dissapointed in him, and pissed off too.

If Longhorn is half as good at Panther, I'll go buy a $400 computer and try it out. I don't know about most of you, but as much as I hate Micro$oft, I'd still really like to try Longhorn (If I live long enough to see it :rolleyes: ).

[janey]

If Longhorn is half as good at Panther, I'll go buy a $400 computer and try it out. I don't know about most of you, but as much as I hate Micro$oft, I'd still really like to try Longhorn (If I live long enough to see it :rolleyes: ).
in all honesty, even disregarding what people purport to be the recommended specs for a computer to run the final release of Longhorn, it won't run well on a $400 computer. Well, maybe if you built it yourself it would, but if you just get a cheap POS from Dell, it'll be crap, probably.

As for me, I'll still be willing to try Longhorn, go to my local computer store at midnight to get my copy (look, i do that for both Windows and Mac OS so dont call me a windows lover), install it, try it, and then go back to using a Mac. Mind you, I'm really really exasperated at Windows XP right now, burning Gentoo install disks currently :)

[dopefiend]

in all honesty, even disregarding what people purport to be the recommended specs for a computer to run the final release of Longhorn, it won't run well on a $400 computer. Well, maybe if you built it yourself it would, but if you just get a cheap POS from Dell, it'll be crap, probably.

If you take those specs to heart, then you have never used windows.

It will run on half those specs I'm almost positive and even less with the effects turned off.(considering I have the lastest build running on my old 1ghz athlon 256 meg with TNT2 card.

[janey]

i never said it WONT run, i said it would be crap. you cant expect longhorn to be ultrafast on a PC that cant handle it. Not saying a $400 can't handle it, but chances are it'll be slower than you'd want

[Belly-laughs]

http://www.winsupersite.com/images/reviews/winhec2004_2_24.jpg
If these are the way PC's are supposed to be, apple is in good direction!

I quite like the emergency exit handle on the side :)

On another note; why do they call the trash "Recycle Bin"? Can you recycle old files into new? I don´t get it.

[Powerbook G5]

It's because they stole the trash can concept from Apple but didn't want to be sued for stealing so they had to come up with a new name, and I guess someone had the bright idea that a recycle bin is kind of like a trash can.

[janey]

recycle those 1s and 0s baby.

[Kingsnapped]

Was it called something other than recycle bin in earlier versions of Windows? 3.1 was just before my time, but I remember seeing the recycle bin in Windows 95 and thinking it was just to appease environmentally concerned people.

[musicpyrite]

in all honesty, even disregarding what people purport to be the recommended specs for a computer to run the final release of Longhorn, it won't run well on a $400 computer. Well, maybe if you built it yourself it would, but if you just get a cheap POS from Dell, it'll be crap, probably.


One word: Overclock. ;)


You'd be surprized at what I could do with $400. (but, knowing Microsoft, the cost of the OS will be 30% of the total computer)

[Mac|caM]

it will give 10.3 a VERY good run for its money.

(dont flame me)

But, it won't be released tomorrow, and when it is released, it won't have to compete with Panther, but with OS X 10.6 or 10.7. Plus, I doubt this is Longhorn (doesn't look like the recent screenshots). Looks like XP with an ok rip-off skin on it. Plus, even the latest Longhorn builds aren't stable at all. The latest one crashed at WinHEC during a major presentation showing how much better Longhorn was than XP :D

[janey]

But, it won't be released tomorrow, and when it is released, it won't have to compete with Panther, but with OS X 10.6 or 10.7. Plus, I doubt this is Longhorn (doesn't look like the recent screenshots). Looks like XP with an ok rip-off skin on it. Plus, even the latest Longhorn builds aren't stable at all. The latest one crashed at WinHEC during a major presentation showing how much better Longhorn was than XP :D
yes, if you readthis interesting thread, for the past two.5 pages every other person has been saying that the screenshots are of XP skinned to look like Longhorn, and the person who did it even admitted it to the person who started this thread ;)

And you also have to realize that Longhorn will not be released for another couple of years at the least. The alphas we see right now are going to be vastly improved, and probably will be no indicator of what the final version of Longhorn will be like. Microsoft could always add new features, making Longhorn compete with OS 10.6 without looking pathetic.

As to the overclocking comment: Yes, overclocking is fun ;) and i completely forgot about it :)

[sushi]

recycle those 1s and 0s baby.
:D :D :D

[BornAgainMac]

I got invided over to my firends (his name is Rafael) house today, and he said he had a surprize for me. guess what it was? LongHorn. I got to try it out, and I can deffinatly say (if it was releced tommrow) it will give 10.3 a VERY good run for its money. There isn't as much bloating as you would think. He sent me some pictures over AIM.


The screenshots looked nice! Did it have a spell checker built-in like 10.3?

[SiliconAddict]

I quite like the emergency exit handle on the side :)

On another note; why do they call the trash "Recycle Bin"? Can you recycle old files into new? I don´t get it.

No no NO. Its a handle to make flinging the computer easier then ever when you get pissed at windows for losing its WIFI connection and unable to re-est a connection because XP's WIFI components are dicking with the OEM's, or slows down because your file explorer is frozen because you are browsing a network share that is having problems, or because SP X has crashed Windows, or because the xls/doc/ppt file you've spent the last 2 hours on has become corrupt and you have to start over again, or because.............well you get the drift. Its innovation at its finest. :D

[laserbeahm]

Say, that Recycle Bin looks *ahem*... *ahem!!!*...familiar.

I miss the old OS 9 and older trash can.

[atif.muhammad]

Longhorn is exactly like Win XP but with a different theme.

[russed]

Longhorn is exactly like Win XP but with a different theme.

yet again another gerenal statement at the end of an old thread? what you trying to do? get your avatar?

i think microsoft deserves some credit, at least they are developing something new. have you used longhorn?

[mpw]

EH.. am I the only person to notice that this guy has a pirated copy of Mean girls?

...and a "Masturbation.gif"???

[edesignuk]

Longhorn is exactly like Win XP but with a different theme.
Glad you dug this thread up for that little insight...which is wrong BTW :rolleyes:

[Fukui]

i think microsoft deserves some credit, at least they are developing something new. have you used longhorn?
I have. Strangely, the CD has orange fur all over it... :eek:

[musicpyrite]

...and a "Masturbation.gif"???

hahaha, I remember that now! It was a 25x25 or 50x50 pixel gif with a message that read: masturbation causes blindness. The image looked like it was horribly out of focus, it was hilarious! :D I decided not to use it as an avatar because it wasn't very appropriate.....

Good stuff. :)

[mpw]

hahaha, I remember that now! It was a 25x25 or 50x50 pixel gif with a message that read: masturbation causes blindness. The image looked like it was horribly out of focus, it was hilarious! :D I decided not to use it as an avatar because it wasn't very appropriate.....

Good stuff. :)

Of course we all believe that!

[Chaszmyr]

It's an improvement, visually.. but it's still not as "clean" as OSX by a longshot.

[Thomas Veil]

No, the design is still too cluttered. Apple got where it was with simplicity, something which seems to elude MS no matter how hard they try.

And what's with EVERY generation of Windows still using that same crappy jagged-edged font? Every time I have to use a PC I end up longing for the beauty of the anti-aliased Lucida Grande on my Mac.

[tech4all]

Well if this is real, I must say it does look better than XP. But I did notice some OS X stuff, as mentioned, like the "recycle bin" and the program buttons on the taskbar have that gel button look to them like OS X. It's "OK" I guess, but we're just going to have wait a million years until M$ finally releases it :rolleyes: But if anything, it is an improvement from the the XPee GUI, IMO. But the GUI is cluttered still, like that thing on the right, way too big and gets in the way.


EDIT: Ok, I just realized this thread was done back in May and had 3 pages already :D :o

[Mechcozmo]

EDIT: Ok, I just realized this thread was done back in May and had 3 pages already :D :o

And deemed fake?


i hope it crashes :) when they demo it

That happened once, when Bill Gates was showing off how well Win98 worked with a USB scanner. It BSOD on him! This was years ago (Win 98) but it was funny to see... oddly enough, the PC was still dumping the image to the projector that he was using, instead of just dying. Maybe the video card had a dual output? Anywhoo, go find it yourself.

[*Y*]

Yeah I remember that. It was kind of funny to watch that it crashed while he was presenting the "plug and play". :D