View Full Version : What's your current DVD ripping solution/process?
jimmypopjr
Jun 29, 2009, 08:52 AM
I'm a brand new Mac Pro owner and in one weekend I was able to convert more of my collection than I could in weeks with my other mac. It's nuts! I owe a lot of that to this board, and I thank you guys for it. I'm hoping maybe there's a better way to speed up my current process.
Anyways, on to the topic. Right now my steps are:
1. Insert DVD and RipIt takes care of the rest (with a non-riplocked drive). Takes 8-12 minutes per DVD.
2. I'll do a stack of my DVDs then queue up a list with the terminal-updated version of Handbrake.
Each movie takes 25-45 minutes, using only 30% processor power, tops.
3. I usually run two instances of Handbrake to speed up the process. They read the DVD images from my main drive and they write to a second internal drive. Last night I had 15 movies queued up for each Handbrake instance and let it go overnight. All 30 were done by 7:30 this morning (started the process at about midnight).
Going through my entire collection has reminded me of how many bad movies I've bought over the years. There's just some need I have to get my entire collection ready to go on my Apple TV's.
How about you guys? What's your process look like? I'd like to see quicker conversions, but I think I'd need an SSD and better optimized Handbrake to make that happen.
Genghis Khan
Jun 29, 2009, 09:26 AM
i don't rip movies as intensely as you seem to be doing, but i use
Mac the Ripper
Handbrake
Visual Hub (if needed)
Have you thought about 2 optical drives? Even if Rip it can only use 1 of them, get Mac the Ripper to use the other
And I think you're right about needig faster storage to get through your backlog quicker....if you have a few hundred DVD's or something, you could justify an SSD...or even a RAID 0 (although, working them that hard is increasing your risk of failure.
Congrats on the Pro dude!
- Michael
TheStrudel
Jun 29, 2009, 12:38 PM
If he's already fixed the riplock issue, I don't think faster hard drives or RAIDing will help, because all optical media is way too slow to max out the transfer of even mid-level HDDs. I think you may be stuck with that speed.
At any rate, my own workflow is to use MacTheRipper, then run my resulting files through either Mpeg Streamclip, Toast, or Handbrake, depending on what I'm doing.
Encoding, on the other hand, could probably be better optimized to use more of your CPU, but that's a different kettle of fish.
Mrbill317
Jun 29, 2009, 01:01 PM
mkv?
How is ripit , I got a copy from macupdates promo but didnt install it yet.
Tesselator
Jun 29, 2009, 01:10 PM
Vuze.app - almost no CPU usage at all and most DVDs only take 20 min.
Igantius
Jun 29, 2009, 01:14 PM
When you're using Handbrake, what settings/conversion are you doing?
jessica.
Jun 29, 2009, 01:22 PM
Physical DVD:
Fairmount
DVD Remaster Pro
Digital Copy:
Handbreak
yomibro
Jun 29, 2009, 02:23 PM
Dual drives
VMWARE
Slysoft
Movie in one drive, blank disk in the other
Rip, compress and burn in around 22 minutes per disc
jimmypopjr
Jun 29, 2009, 03:25 PM
mkv?
How is ripit , I got a copy from macupdates promo but didnt install it yet.
I actually really like it. Used to use Mac the Ripper, but I'm enjoying this a lot more for ripping the whole DVD. Doesn't have the options of MTR, but you can easily set it to start ripping as soon as a DVD is put in the drive and eject once it's done. It also displays the transfer rate and time to completion as well, which I love.
And in handbrake I'm using the AppleTV normal setting without the 'large file size' option clicked.
Tes - I thought Vuze was a P2P/torrent program? It can convert video, too?
RemarkabLee
Jun 29, 2009, 05:09 PM
- Pioneer 216 (not riplocked)
- RipIt (Mac the Ripper just crashes for me, plus its buggy anyway)
- Handbrake (using High Profile for films - all 8 cores running at max :))
jimmypopjr
Jun 29, 2009, 05:24 PM
- Pioneer 216 (not riplocked)
- RipIt (Mac the Ripper just crashes for me, plus its buggy anyway)
- Handbrake (using High Profile for films - all 8 cores running at max :))
High profile and all 8 cores maxed? How'd you manage that? I can't get my cores past 30%!
OZMP
Jun 30, 2009, 04:49 AM
how do i terminal update handbrake? i can follow instructions, just never done it (IT trainee- says it all? :P )
j2048b
Jul 2, 2009, 02:51 AM
I have flashed my pioneer 112 drive only once, then i could not do it again, not sure why but it would not take,
how do i re-flash this drive to remove rip lock and what version will i end up with on the drive after i have flashed it to the latest firmware?
help the new bee out a bit?
thanks
Zerozal
Jul 2, 2009, 10:12 AM
I'm currently using DVDFab 6, running under Windows/Bootcamp. I really wish there were a Mac version--unfortunately it doesn't look like it's in the cards.
I'm a new Mac owner, but I've yet to find a Mac-specific solution that is as good as DVDFab. MtR is so old that it doesn't work with a lot of new DVDs, and Handbrake doesn't seem to be able to output the original Video and Audio TS files intact (although I'd love to be wrong about that).
If anyone has any suggestions for a single Mac-specific app (i.e., without having to rip with app A, convert with app B, burn with app C) that can rip a DVD-9, then burn as a DVD-5 while keeping the 5.1 or DTS tracks intact, I'm all ears! Bonus points the app has output settings for mobile players (iPhone/iPod, etc). And yes, DVDFab can do all this.
TIA!
rowsdower
Jul 2, 2009, 12:07 PM
I just use Handbrake but I clearly don't rip as many movies as others.
Tesselator
Jul 2, 2009, 12:39 PM
High profile and all 8 cores maxed? How'd you manage that? I can't get my cores past 30%!
Newer version? Mine also maxes out all 8 cores... It's actually faster (or same speed) on my 2006 (upgraded to 8 cores X5355) 2.66 than it is on other people's 2.93 2009 systems.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=668951&highlight=handbrake
Just a quick wink: my best ripping method is BitTorrent...
;-)
Loa
Tesselator
Jul 2, 2009, 02:47 PM
Hehehe, That's what I said (message #5). :D
Hehehe, That's what I said (message #5). :D
Haha! never heard of Vuze, so I didn't know it was a BT app... And with my very very poor connection speeds, my mind couldn't connect "download a DVD" and "20 minutes"... lol
Loa
Tesselator
Jul 2, 2009, 03:35 PM
Vuze is the new name for Azureus (http://azureus.sourceforge.net/plugin_list.php). ;)
j2048b
Jul 2, 2009, 03:43 PM
how do i terminal update handbrake? i can follow instructions, just never done it (IT trainee- says it all? :P )
just follow the instructions and easy as pie!!
i have never done this as well, and beginner in IT as well, and it worked flawlessly, the only thing is that the options to rip into game systems was not in it, but never use them anyways!
j2048b
Jul 2, 2009, 03:45 PM
I have flashed my pioneer 112 drive only once, then i could not do it again, not sure why but it would not take,
how do i re-flash this drive to remove rip lock and what version will i end up with on the drive after i have flashed it to the latest firmware?
help the new bee out a bit?
thanks
ANY help with this at all?
thanks
Tesselator
Jul 2, 2009, 06:30 PM
ANY help with this at all?
thanks
I saw it being mentioned here within the past two or three months. Pioneer 112 flashing. Have a search.
jimmypopjr
Jul 2, 2009, 07:20 PM
I saw it being mentioned here within the past two or three months. Pioneer 112 flashing. Have a search.
Hey Tes - Very odd. I've done the terminal update of handbrake (a while ago) and I still can't get it anywhere near maxed. Are you running RAID0 or an SSD or something? I've got to have a hefty bottleneck somewhere and I'd like to remedy that.
Tesselator
Jul 3, 2009, 12:00 AM
What's a terminal update? Can you explain this? I think there are two of us wondering about this now. :D
But I just rechecked to make sure I wasn't crazy - because I don't rip DVDs but maybe one a month or something. Mostly I just installed HandBrake for that test thread i linked to above.
If I rip directly from the DVD HandBrake uses between 10% on all 8 core to 65% across all 8 cores dependent on the size and the "Average Bitrate" or "Constant Quality" setting.
If I drag and drop the DVD files onto the desktop and then rip from that folder I get 95% ~ 100% across all 8 cores for the vast majority of the possible settings.
Both ways end up taking very close to the same amount of time (depending) but by drag-&-dropping the DVD player spends much less time spinning. About 7min. for a 6.5GB DVD as opposed to the entire 15min or 20min it takes to read, condition, and encode the whole film.
Does that make more sense? Sorry I wasn't clear the first time. :o
.
motox25
Jul 3, 2009, 01:57 AM
I'm in the process of ripping all my DVD movies to my mac pro to stream them via connect 360 to my TV. I use mac the ripper and handbrake. No problems yet!
jimmypopjr
Jul 3, 2009, 09:57 AM
Hmm... very odd.
The terminal update is just the re-compiled version I believe, where you type a few commands into terminal and it will update all the presets and give a slightly new UI (and is supposed to run a little faster).
My octo is ripping from a DVD image right now and it's hitting 40-50%, which is the highest I've seen it in a while. It's still taking 35 minutes, though.
Ah well. I appreciate your input!
And I feel like a jerk. My old macs would take 90-150 minutes for a 90-minute movie. The octo is saving me a ton of time and letting me put a huge dent into my collection, so I should be stoked! I just feel like it's still taking longer than it should!
XYZed
Jul 4, 2009, 09:14 AM
Wait what?
You talk of using MacTheRipper and then Handbrake.
I use handbrake to rip movies onto my computer, why would you rip a movie onto the computer using MTR and then use Handbrake. What does Handbrake do besides ripping movies right onto your computer?
bozz2006
Jul 4, 2009, 09:25 AM
handbrake doesn't rip the movie, it encodes it to mp4. mactheripper is used to rip the movie in its entirety. it makes a complete mirror copy of all the files that are on the DVD. this is used by people who use their computer as their home theater hub. if you don't have an 8 core mac pro, handbraking a feature film can take a long time, so many people rip a bunch of movies during the day and then set up a handbrake queue to run all night.
Tesselator
Jul 4, 2009, 11:48 AM
Ah well. I appreciate your input!
And I feel like a jerk. My old macs would take 90-150 minutes for a 90-minute movie. The octo is saving me a ton of time and letting me put a huge dent into my collection, so I should be stoked! I just feel like it's still taking longer than it should!
NP,
And don't feel that way. A lot of what we all talk about here is to do with performance tuning. Trying to use every bit of what you paid for right down to the last CPU cycle is an admirable goal. Go for it dude! :D
so many people rip a bunch of movies during the day and then set up a handbrake queue to run all night.
I don't understand? Drag&Drop only takes between 4 and 7 min. depending on the film-length. Handbrake reads and re-encodes them just fine. Why use another program for something D&D does better and easier? Am I missing something?
Am I missing something?
Copy protection?
Loa
Tesselator
Jul 6, 2009, 02:30 AM
Copy protection?
Loa
Hmm, could be I guess. I just did it with "Filth and Wisdom" (AKA "Wonderlust") directed by Madona. And "Kit Kittredge, An American Girl", A Patricia Rozema film, EP: Julia Roberts, and distributed through New Line Cinema and it all just worked. That last time I tried it, it was with "Pirates Of The Caribbean" III with Johnny Depp and ummm, some CG film - I think "WALL-E" from Pixar/Disney. All were the original DVDs.
I don't follow distribution techniques but I would imagine if films are regularly copy-protected then these would not be exceptions.
Handbrake just does it's thing and doesn't care where the VOB folder is. I wonder if some DVD players themselves disallow filesystem level access on (c) disks? <shrug> I have no idea. :p
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