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electronspin

Jul 2, 2009, 10:56 PM

Is anybody else having the problem of having a small light-yellow box appearing next to the cursor at random moments? I can't catch a screenshot of it unfortunately, but it's annoying that it keeps happening all the time.

Yes, and it's actually starting to become very annoying. I've searched everywhere for any information on what this is but cannot find anything. It started with 3.5 - no new add-ons, etc.

Update: I tested disabling add-ons one by one and it turned out to be Google Toolbar. I uninstalled and yellow box disappeared. Unfortunate, as I really like Google Toolbar. May have to live with this annoying UI glitch...

jive turkey

Jul 3, 2009, 01:47 PM

Until Safari gets a system that utilizes tags and comes close to replicating the Awesome Bar, switching is not even a thought in my head. Some Firefox extensions are almost indispensable to me as well (ScrapBook, Linkification, Numbered Tabs, Undo Closed Tab Button, TagSifter), but I could work around losing them for a browser that is dramatically superior to Firefox. But there is no replacing the tags and location bar, especially now that it is infinitely configurable.

I like Safari 4 and I use it for some things, like I will keep it open on one monitor to keep an eye on Facebook and news sites will work in Firefox on another monitor, but it just doesn't offer enough to me entice me into making it the default browser. To each his own, of course. We all want something different from our browser and personal preference will always trump load times and ACID3 tests.

jive turkey

Jul 3, 2009, 01:50 PM

Unfortunately for me, with enough tabs open to fill the tab bar, it is causing the tabs to vibrate back and forth pretty rapidly. :(

Looks like I'll have to find another alternative.

I had to switch back to the default theme to fix this, which I wasn't thrilled about, but now I am getting used to. It really isn't too awful. I think I may try Dark Angel's hint and remove the plus tab button and see if that fixes the vibrating issue.

xIGmanIx

Jul 3, 2009, 01:51 PM

To each his own, of course. We all want something different from our browser and personal preference will always trump load times and ACID3 tests.

me too, FF just "feels" better to me. No real scientific data to support it and that is all that matters

Drag'nGT

Jul 3, 2009, 09:50 PM

FF has one plug in that I use. But I'd rather use Safari. It looks better, feels smoother, and I can run around in it no problem. FF doesn't make me feel that way.

Povilas

Jul 4, 2009, 08:02 AM

At least Firefox has the addons. Safari more often than not just lumps you with whatever Steve Jobs thought was best that month.

I do not require browser to have 1 000 000 000 plug-ins or ad-ons.

Mattie Num Nums

Jul 6, 2009, 10:14 AM

For those of you complaining about the look try the Camifox theme.

shoosh

Jul 9, 2009, 05:33 PM

Anyone know how to turn off/disable underlined links in 3.5? Or how to get rid of that annoying outline that appears around the link once you've clicked on it? There doesn't appear to be anything in preferences, so it's obviously not an option. :( Underline links and outline boxes are just so...Windoze. Yuck! :p

If there isn't an app or an add-on that would do it, are there any scripting gurus out there who could rustle up a script to take care of this extremely annoying problem? I'm sure a hell of a lot of people would thank you for it. :rolleyes:

jive turkey

Jul 9, 2009, 06:50 PM

clevin

Jul 9, 2009, 07:04 PM

Anyone know how to turn off/disable underlined links in 3.5? Or how to get rid of that annoying outline that appears around the link once you've clicked on it?

to remove underline links, you will need to use greasemonkey.

to remove the border around clicked links. open your browser, type "about:config" into urlbar and press enter.

find the entry "browser.display.focus_ring_width" and double click it, change its value to "0"

rerelease

Jul 9, 2009, 07:12 PM

For those of you complaining about the look try the Camifox theme.

This one looks far cooler: ;)

http://i31.tinypic.com/2e1t45s.png

benlangdon

Jul 9, 2009, 10:17 PM

This one looks far cooler: ;)

or this one, or the different versions i had mentioned about a hundred posts ago

luisemogan

Jul 10, 2009, 06:02 AM

G-Force

Jul 10, 2009, 06:32 AM

Does someone know a way to set Firefox's font rendering to be exactly the same as Safari/Mac OS X?

Firefox is a pretty nice browser, and I would like to try it but the font rendering keeps me on Safari.

Edit: there is one more thing that bugs me alot:
http://kttns.org/jq5y

This is not done in a Mac application if you ask me. This looks like friggin' Windows 95. :confused:

clevin

Jul 10, 2009, 06:49 AM

Hi dear friends,

First out was Opera, and then WebKit (which Safari and some other web browsers are based on), to pass the Acid3 test.

I Should Firefox wait with a release till it gets better Acid3 score, query Selector All support etc? Will Microsoft ever come close to catching up?

Thanks

Hi dear friend

go read something about acid3 in depth and figure out firefox does just as good as safari, if not better in standard support.

if a number on a screen is dealbreaker for you, please do stick to whatever browser you are happy with.

Thanks
Does someone know a way to set Firefox's font rendering to be exactly the same as Safari/Mac OS X?

Firefox is a pretty nice browser, and I would like to try it but the font rendering keeps me on Safari.

Edit: there is one more thing that bugs me alot:
http://kttns.org/jq5y

This is not done in a Mac application if you ask me. This looks like friggin' Windows 95. :confused:

no, if its dealbreaker for you, stick with safari.

Font rendering is not an option that can be easily changed. It might involve projects outside firefox.

widget are mostly aqua now, there is occasionally looks of old fashion. I think it worth a bug report.

G-Force

Jul 10, 2009, 06:58 AM

Thank you for your answer, I guess I'll stick with Safari for now.

jive turkey

Jul 10, 2009, 02:28 PM

Regarding the apparent "slow" launch time in Firefox. I just went through my about:config preferences (I actually opened the prefs.js file to make it easier) and deleted all entries related to extensions that I no longer use. I probably cut the file size in half, and now Firefox opens up lightning fast. For those of you having problems with several icon bounces before Firefox is ready to use, you may want to clean out the prefs file. When you uninstall extensions they leave all the preferences behind, and Firefox still reads them all upon launch, it seems. Deleting the preferences of removed extensions makes an enormous difference.

As a side note, I also restored defaults to all those performance tweaks that are supposed to make browsing faster (pipelining, inital layout, etc), and browsing is faster now, too. I don't know if that is a coincidence or what, but after reading about these enhancements at the Mozilla forums, I decided to go back to defaults, and I am glad I did.

TQ305

Jul 10, 2009, 03:27 PM

Yeah for me Firefox 3.5 is painfully slow and unresponsive with the Not Responding text constantly appearing at the top when I have more than around 5 tabs open. Also, it seems to take a lot of memory because when I had 12 tabs open for examining code it would take up 500MB of RAM.

But I found several tweaks you can try by typing about:config and then modifying the page. Make sure you take a back up copy just in case something goes wrong. Here are some of the hacks for the experimantally oriented.

Step one: Type about:config in the address bar and hit enter

Step two: Make the following modifications to the file by typing in the values on the respective fields to get the desired result (feel free to experiment)

1. To enable/disable Single Click Select URL of address bar

browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll = True

browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll = False

2. To auto Complete URL while typing in the address Bar

browser.urlbar.autoFill=True

3. To set the number of auto complete URL in the address bar

browser.urlbar.maxRichResults = #

(# indicates the number of auto complete URLs shown. The default is 12)

4. To disabler Browser Toolbar Tip

browser.chrome.toolbar_tips = False

5. To paste copied content by clicking the center button on the mouse

middlemouse.paste = True

6. To disable blinking text

browser.blink_allowed = False

7. To create a single close button to for all Firefox Opened Tabs.

browser.tabs.closeButtons = 3

8. To increase number of recently closed tabs.

browser.sessionstore.max_tabs_undo=15

9. Right click view source in your editor

view_source.editor.external=True

view_source.editor.path= Path of Editor

10. To enable fast scrolling across tabs

toolkit.scrollbox.scrollIncrement =75

11. To stop displaying website icon in address bar and on the tabs

browser.chrome.site_icons = False

12. To enable spell check in text fields

layout.spellcheckDefault = 2

13. To speed up the browser

network.http.max-connections 30 to 96

network.http.max-connections-per-server 15 to 32

network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server 6 to 8

network.http.pipelining false to true

network.http.proxy.pipelining false to true

network.http.pipelining.maxrequests 30 to 8

network.http.pipelining.ssl false to true

network.http.proxy.pipelining false to true

14. To disable annoying browser behavior

Change the followowing values to 'false'

dom.disable_window_open_feature.titlebar

dom.disable_window_open_feature.menubar

dom.disable_window_move_resize

dom.disable_window_open_feature.toolbar

15. To show more tabs on single window

browser.tabs.tabMinWidth = 75

16. To display search results in new tab

browser.search.openintab=True.

I have used many of the above about:config hacks with Firefox 2 before and it is working for the new version as well. If some thing goes wrong after applying these changes, restore your about:config to older setting.

Enjoy

benlangdon

Jul 10, 2009, 03:59 PM

jive turkey

Jul 10, 2009, 06:56 PM

nice, im going to turn pipelining back to how it was.
how did you access the pref file.
i have so many extensions that i have deleted. i mean like 20-30.

I opened it with the free Text Wrangler (http://www.barebones.com/products/TextWrangler/download.html) program. Prefs.js is located in your Firefox profile at ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles/[whatever profile you are using]. The two rules appear to be to make a backup copy and to make sure Firefox is closed when you edit it, or else the changes won't stick.

Most of the old extensions of mine were easy to spot by name or abbreviation. Just highlight and delete entries of extensions you aren't using and save when you are done. Reopen Firefox and enjoy! Hopefully it works as well for you as it did for me.

slackpacker

Jul 11, 2009, 12:03 PM

Safari is still better sorry FF you have to work on your speed

raf66

Jul 12, 2009, 02:29 PM

I agree slackpacker. FF still seems a little "bloated" to me, and I only have a couple plug-ins. Safari just feels faster so I'm sticking with it, on both my iMac at home and my Windows machine at work.

windywoo

Jul 12, 2009, 02:32 PM

elppa

Jul 12, 2009, 02:55 PM

Until Safari has support for something as simple as adding www. and .com it can render pages as fast as it likes.

Type "apple" or "microsoft" or "amazon" into the Safari address bar.

You'll find it adds www. to the start and .com to the end.

windywoo

Jul 12, 2009, 02:58 PM

Type "apple" or "microsoft" or "amazon" into the Safari address bar.

You'll find it adds www. to the start and .com to the end.

No it goes to some other site first which corrects your error for you. I've had issues with Safari in the past where it simply went to the address without the www. and .com and because those sites had not registered for common misspellings it didn't take me where I wanted.

Try typing mplex without the www and .com and see if it works for you. Currently I am using OpenDNS which seems to correct errors for me.

clevin

Jul 13, 2009, 09:31 PM

Until Safari has support for something as simple as adding www. and .com it can render pages as fast as it likes.

Safari might load faster, but overall it makes surfing slower because its just such a pain to use.

No it goes to some other site first which corrects your error for you. I've had issues with Safari in the past where it simply went to the address without the www. and .com and because those sites had not registered for common misspellings it didn't take me where I wanted.

Try typing mplex without the www and .com and see if it works for you. Currently I am using OpenDNS which seems to correct errors for me.

well, not really, safari does add www. and .com around the string you typed.

However, I agree with your point, using safari overall slow down thr surfing experience because many usability features make firefox faster to reach the website users want to go. Awesomebar is a big example.

The problem with safari's urlbar, as your question touched, is exactly that, safari only does www. and .com, nothing else. Which is quite dumb. e.g., you type in a term with domain suffix other than ".com", safari won't go there; you type a term that has not been registered with a .com suffix, safari returns error; you type two terms, safari just plays dumb again.

I think after 2 hr use, most users will save 100x-1,000x more time than whatever safari has in js advantages, which is in the range of 0.001-0.01ms.

elppa

Jul 14, 2009, 02:13 AM

Try typing mplex without the www and .com and see if it works for you. Currently I am using OpenDNS which seems to correct errors for me.

Yes, it does. Maybe this has more to do with OpenDNS than Safari.

windywoo

Jul 14, 2009, 02:17 AM

Yes, it does. Maybe this has more to do with OpenDNS than Safari.

You have completely misread my post. I am using Safari atm and it will only put the www and the .com on a URL if I have already been to that site.

Here is what happens if I type msn into the address bar and press enter. Safari will go to http://msn/ and relies on the DNS server to find a close match and change it to .com.

I can't reproduce it at the moment but I have seen it go simply to http://blah/ and not add a .com and therefore not go to the correct url. Perhaps they fixed it.

elppa

Jul 14, 2009, 02:35 AM

using safari overall slow down thr surfing experience because many usability features make firefox faster to reach the website users want to go. Awesomebar is a big example.

I think after 2 hr use, most users will save 100x-1,000x more time than whatever safari has in js advantages, which is in the range of 0.001-0.01ms.

And if you have visited the page and can't remember the title but can remember some of content, then Firefox adds minutes, scrolling through the history double clicking on each “likely” site to load it (and then using the page search) to find the right one.

Whereas with history coverflow combined with full history search saves the user minutes, on top of the already faster javascript and HTML rendering performance.

Similarly, top sites means that users don't have to visit a site to see if it has been updated, they can just check to see if it has a star.

Finally, when reading RSS feeds, Safari saves some more seconds, with searching, sorting and date filters.

As the Safari user never have to wait in the morning for updates to their extensions to be checked (which in many cases adds features which come right out the box in Safari, such as “Firebug”) thus saving the user another few valuable seconds!

Then there is the time you have to spend making the Firefox spell checker learn all the spellings you already taught your system to learn because it doesn't use the system wide dictionary, unlike Safari which does.

The ability to merge all windows into tabs to clean up space in a single click without having to manually drag and drop into place also saves time.

This is a very silly game to play - some Firefox features will speed up usage, and some Safari features will speed up usage.

elppa

Jul 14, 2009, 02:37 AM

You have completely misread my post. I am using Safari atm and it will only put the www and the .com on a URL if I have already been to that site.

Actually I'm pretty sure I haven't. Why don't you try it and see? What have you to lose by trying it (aside from a bit of time).

Safari prepends www. and appends .com to sites, even if you haven't visited them before. And yes, I tried the mplex example, and yes, it worked. And no, I had never visited mplex before.

windywoo

Jul 14, 2009, 02:37 AM

Trust me, turn OpenDNS off and it will work.

I had the issues BEFORE openDNS.

clevin

Jul 14, 2009, 07:22 AM

And if you have visited the page and can't remember the title but can remember some of content, then Firefox adds minutes, scrolling through the history double clicking on each “likely” site to load it (and then using the page search) to find the right one.

Whereas with history coverflow combined with full history search saves the user minutes, on top of the already faster javascript and HTML rendering performance.

Similarly, top sites means that users don't have to visit a site to see if it has been updated, they can just check to see if it has a star.

Finally, when reading RSS feeds, Safari saves some more seconds, with searching, sorting and date filters.

As the Safari user never have to wait in the morning for updates to their extensions to be checked (which in many cases adds features which come right out the box in Safari, such as “Firebug”) thus saving the user another few valuable seconds!

Then there is the time you have to spend making the Firefox spell checker learn all the spellings you already taught your system to learn because it doesn't use the system wide dictionary, unlike Safari which does.

The ability to merge all windows into tabs to clean up space in a single click without having to manually drag and drop into place also saves time.

This is a very silly game to play - some Firefox features will speed up usage, and some Safari features will speed up usage.

non sense, why do you think its called awesomebar, if it were to ask you try each one out? and nobody stopping you to limit search within url with 3.5's keyword function.

Somebody need to show some side by side video action to fully show the unbelievable potential of awesome bar for yu guys then.

You can describe safari glowing as much as you want, its urlbar is inferior and in 99% of the situations much slower than firefox.

and you are excited just because safari has one or two functions out of box that users can get for firefox for 5 clicks? then imagine that 5000+ potentials!

merge all windows? Now somebody finally find the usefulness of single window mode? then let me tell ya, firefox by default is CLEAN.

History overflow, lol, why do users want to spend extra time and clicks just to bring up that UI and then search? when they can just start search from urlbar? That doesn't save time, that waste time!

jive turkey

Jul 15, 2009, 03:49 PM

I want to add that the best change I have made to the Firefox configuration was toggling 'network.dns.disableIPv6' to true. I have been having problems with both Safari & Firefox taking several seconds on occasion to find a site, and after making the above change I connect immediately.

Perhaps this is just coincidence with the sites that I tend to hit frequently not being IPv6, but it certainly would be worth a try if you experience delays in lookup time.

See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.dns.disableIPv6 for more information.

elppa

Jul 15, 2009, 06:12 PM

non sense, why do you think its called awesomebar, if it were to ask you try each one out? and nobody stopping you to limit search within url with 3.5's keyword function.

Somebody need to show some side by side video action to fully show the unbelievable potential of awesome bar for yu guys then.

You can describe safari glowing as much as you want, its urlbar is inferior and in 99% of the situations much slower than firefox.

and you are excited just because safari has one or two functions out of box that users can get for firefox for 5 clicks? then imagine that 5000+ potentials!

merge all windows? Now somebody finally find the usefulness of single window mode? then let me tell ya, firefox by default is CLEAN.

History overflow, lol, why do users want to spend extra time and clicks just to bring up that UI and then search? when they can just start search from urlbar? That doesn't save time, that waste time!

The message point was the bit at the end. Hence there was no reason to quote each proceeding point in turn. Here it is again:

This is a very silly game to play - some Firefox features will speed up usage, and some Safari features will speed up usage.

I fail to see in any way, shape or form you managed to get to this conclusion: “You can describe safari glowing as much as you want”.

I'm too tired to play the next round and reply to each of your points, but needless to say as usual some are wrong due to your blinded fanaticism in relation to Firefox.