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iOrlando

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couldn't find one $0.69 song.

so pretty much apple lied when they said there will be more $0.69 songs than $0.99 or $1.29
 

chrono1081

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couldn't find one $0.69 song.

so pretty much apple lied when they said there will be more $0.69 songs than $0.99 or $1.29

They didn't lie. It depends all on how the record companies want to price them. Apple set up a pricing tier so that its possible to offer DRM free music but the cost per song actually depends on the record companies.
 

jaw04005

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They didn't lie.

Nah, they didn't lie just grossly miscalculated.

"I can tell you we know already that more songs are going to be sold or offered at 69 [cents] than $1.29. So, it's going to be a benefit to a lot of customers."

Phil Schiller, Macworld '09 keynote address, 1:23 in:

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/macworld-san-francisco-2009/

Apparently, the 69 cent price point is so rare that Apple even removed their promo pages for it on the iTunes store.
 

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nuckinfutz

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Call it what you want but the fact is Phil sat there and spoke about there being more .69 tracks and when you hop on iTunes you see very few .69 tracks.

Apple caved to the music industry. They won and Apple lost.
 

Surely

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Call it what you want but the fact is Phil sat there and spoke about there being more .69 tracks and when you hop on iTunes you see very few .69 tracks.

Apple caved to the music industry. They won and Apple music consumers lost.

Fixed that for you.

I haven't ever seen a 69¢ song.
 

iOrlando

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apple: there will be more $0.69 songs than other prices

conclusion: apple lied

apple didnt say: we assume the music labels will price songs at $0.69....that would be a miscalculation...
 

skottichan

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Oct 23, 2007
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apple: there will be more $0.69 songs than other prices

conclusion: apple lied

apple didnt say: we assume the music labels will price songs at $0.69....that would be a miscalculation...

Oh yes, because Apple set the prices. I'm sure Schiller said what he said on good faith with the record labels. Then, like always, the consumer got screwed. There's a reason why people like Frank Zappa fought the record labels tooth and nail.


By the way, it took me like 3 minutes to find a $.69 song. -> link

two more on the same album link link
 

Michael CM1

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I really think this is the record companies screwing Apple because you will often see the same exact item at Amazon for about $2 less per album and often 89 cents or 79 cents for a track. It's obvious that the recording companies have all the power and a trying to leverage it against Apple with competitors. I'd love for a reporter to try to figure this out.
 

nuckinfutz

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By the way, it took me like 3 minutes to find a $.69 song. ->

Yeah and it took "us" 3 seconds to find a 1.29 song. We don't deny that the .69 songs exist but Schiller's comments were pretty definitive in stating that there would be more .69 songs than 1.29.

That's simply not the reality that we're seeing here at all.
 

skottichan

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Yeah and it took "us" 3 seconds to find a 1.29 song. We don't deny that the .69 songs exist but Schiller's comments were pretty definitive in stating that there would be more .69 songs than 1.29.

That's simply not the reality that we're seeing here at all.

Aaaaand it goes back to what has been said 100 times before. The RIAA sets the prices, not Apple. If you bother to look, a LOT of older music is $.69, just because it's not music you want doesn't invalidate that it's there.
 

techfreak85

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there are a lot of 69cent songs. just ones that u dont want.;)

i got Cheep Trick-I want u to want me for 69cents.
 

nuckinfutz

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Aaaaand it goes back to what has been said 100 times before. The RIAA sets the prices, not Apple. If you bother to look, a LOT of older music is $.69, just because it's not music you want doesn't invalidate that it's there.

The RIAA wasn't on stage selling consumers on a 30 % increase in track costs that was Phil Schiller.

I'd love to see the numeric breakdown of .69 tracks versus 1.29.
 

AdamLikesMusic

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Jun 3, 2009
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I wouldn't be shocked if there were more $.69 tracks than $1.29 tracks.

Pretty much all the $.69 tracks are the songs nobody wanted before, and probably still nobody wants. The labels probably just want to sell anything they can, and throw up the $.69 price in hopes of increasing sales.

The popular songs will be $1.29, because the labels know people will buy them, and will want to get as much as they can for them.

Myself personally, whenever I look for music, it's still $.99 a song, so I could really care less.

Just my $.02.
 

NXTMIKE

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Nov 11, 2008
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Yeah, I've been wondering the same thing as the OP. In fact, I've saw many more $.69 cents songs when they introduced the variable pricing, now I have not recalled seeing $.69 songs in iTunes for the last month or so. :mad:
 

Galley

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Mar 24, 2008
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Meanwhile, catalog CD titles keep getting cheaper. Catalog titles on Amazon sell for as little as $5.00. Sony/BMG just dropped the MSRP on their $10.98 titles to $7.98, and those are the latest remasters. Older titles normally sell for $6.99.
 

TJRiver

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Jan 14, 2009
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The solution to this HORRIFIC problem is simple. Vote with your wallet. Download from Amazon or buy CDs and rip them.
 

Michael CM1

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Feb 4, 2008
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I FOUND 69 CENT SONGS!

Yes, they do exist. The entire album of "Superman: The Movie soundtrack" is 69 cents. I found another one in Classical, "The Most Essential Classical Music in Movies." It's No. 2 in that genre right now. But other than those two, I haven't seen any since the beginning of April when Apple advertised two or three pages of songs older than my dad.
 

mkrishnan

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Jan 9, 2004
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I really think this is the record companies screwing Apple because you will often see the same exact item at Amazon for about $2 less per album and often 89 cents or 79 cents for a track. It's obvious that the recording companies have all the power and a trying to leverage it against Apple with competitors. I'd love for a reporter to try to figure this out.

Yeah, what surprises me more is that the same song will sell for less on Amazon's DRM-free service than on Apple's DRM-free service. I just bought a couple of songs on Amazon instead of iTunes because of that....
 
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