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zimv20
Jun 1, 2004, 09:06 PM
link (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/01/eveningnews/main620626.shtml)


Enron Traders Caught On Tape
LOS ANGELES, June 1, 2004


When a forest fire shut down a major transmission line into California, cutting power supplies and raising prices, Enron energy traders celebrated, CBS News Correspondent Vince Gonzales reports.

"Burn, baby, burn. That's a beautiful thing," a trader sang about the massive fire.

Four years after California's disastrous experiment with energy deregulation, Enron energy traders can be heard – on audiotapes obtained by CBS News – gloating and praising each other as they helped bring on, and cash-in on, the Western power crisis.

"He just f---s California," says one Enron employee. "He steals money from California to the tune of about a million."

"Will you rephrase that?" asks a second employee.

"OK, he, um, he arbitrages the California market to the tune of a million bucks or two a day," replies the first.

The tapes, from Enron's West Coast trading desk, also confirm what CBS reported years ago: that in secret deals with power producers, traders deliberately drove up prices by ordering power plants shut down.

"If you took down the steamer, how long would it take to get it back up?" an Enron worker is heard saying.

"Oh, it's not something you want to just be turning on and off every hour. Let's put it that way," another says.

"Well, why don't you just go ahead and shut her down."

Officials with the Snohomish Public Utility District near Seattle received the tapes from the Justice Department.

"This is the evidence we've all been waiting for. This proves they manipulated the market," said Eric Christensen, a spokesman for the utility.

That utility, like many others, is trying to get its money back from Enron.

"They're f------g taking all the money back from you guys?" complains an Enron employee on the tapes. "All the money you guys stole from those poor grandmothers in California?"

"Yeah, grandma Millie, man"

"Yeah, now she wants her f------g money back for all the power you've charged right up, jammed right up her a------ for f------g $250 a megawatt hour."

And the tapes appear to link top Enron officials Ken Lay and Jeffrey Skilling to schemes that fueled the crisis.

"Government Affairs has to prove how valuable it is to Ken Lay and Jeff Skilling," says one trader.

"Ok."

"Do you know when you started over-scheduling load and making buckets of money on that?

Before the 2000 election, Enron employees pondered the possibilities of a Bush win.

"It'd be great. I'd love to see Ken Lay Secretary of Energy," says one Enron worker.

That didn't happen, but they were sure President Bush would fight any limits on sky-high energy prices.

"When this election comes Bush will f------g whack this ******, man. He won't play this price-cap b------t."

Crude, but true.

"We will not take any action that makes California's problems worse and that's why I oppose price caps," said Mr. Bush on May 29, 2001.

Both the Justice Department and Enron tried to prevent the release of these tapes. Enron's lawyers argued they merely prove "that people at Enron sometimes talked like Barnacle Bill the Sailor."



miloblithe
Jun 1, 2004, 09:21 PM
It's amazing that the US puts a million men in jail but can't seem to get it's hands on the real criminals.

mactastic
Jun 1, 2004, 09:39 PM
Ah come on, that sounds like fraternity hijinks. Or it's just the work of a few low ranking salepeople, it's not indicative of the culture or the organization at large. :eek: :D :p

blackfox
Jun 1, 2004, 10:45 PM
As discussed periodically in other threads recently, I cannot help but wonder if this at all reflects upon the current issue of rising oil prices in the US...although by no means definitive or proven, there are definite energy interests tied into current members of the administration, and the stated reasons for disruption in the supply chain (terrorism to infrastructure/refineries) while most likely valid, may perhaps be have ulterior motives or interests behind them(a la deliberate closings). Even if these events are truly what they seem to be, there can be no question that oil/energy concerns are acheiving huge profits, once again at the expense of the average consumer/taxpayer...but perhaps that is just my cynicism talking (it is quite vocal these days).

As far as these tapes go, I believe that it is added hard evidence that should prove definitive in prosecution. I say should because with enough money and power, the US Justice system can obviously be compromised...to what extent, relevant to Enron remains to be seen. I will try to remain optimistic...

BTW, liked the post mactastic...

IJ Reilly
Jun 2, 2004, 12:38 AM
The tapes may be new evidence, but we've known about the gaming for a long time now. I'm not sure what new this adds, unless it can connect the fraud to Ken Lay. Now, if they only had pictures... then it would be really bad.

Anyhow, all of this makes me nostalgic for the days when California's "energy crisis" could be chalked up to whacko California environmentalists preventing the state from building any new power plants. Several claimed as much right here. Where did they go, I wonder?

Sayhey
Jun 2, 2004, 01:00 AM
The tapes may be new evidence, but we've known about the gaming for a long time now. I'm not sure what new this adds, unless it can connect the fraud to Ken Lay. Now, if they only had pictures... then it would be really bad.

Anyhow, all of this makes me nostalgic for the days when California's "energy crisis" could be chalked up to whacko California environmentalists preventing the state from building any new power plants. Several claimed as much right here. Where did they go, I wonder?

Some of them are working in the Governor's office. Now will we ever find out about Arnie's meetings with Enron?