Next Week?

[MacRumors]

A PowerPage source (http://www.powerpage.org/cgi-bin/WebObjects/powerpage.woa/wa/story?newsID=12123) claims that next week will bring a "new product/service announcement" next week.

While PowerPage speculates on new PowerMacs and iPods, the most likely candidate appears to be iTunes for Europe.

German publication Heise.de (http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/47960) reports that a German radio station has discovered the launch of iTunes for Europe will be on June 15th, 2004.

Previous reports have also placed the launch of iTunes in June:

iTunes Europe Next Month? (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/05/20040527080444.shtml)
iTunes Europe - 1.29 Euros? (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/05/20040513060402.shtml)

[iriejedi]

I say it is a crap shoot as to if anything comes out before WWDC... so I just sit and ponder WWJD.

PS - first post!

A PowerPage source (http://www.powerpage.org/cgi-bin/WebObjects/powerpage.woa/wa/story?newsID=12123) claims that next week will bring a "new product/service announcement" next week.

While PowerPage speculates on new PowerMacs and iPods, the most likely candidate appears to be iTunes for Europe.

German publication Heise.de (http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/47960) reports that a German radio station has discovered the launch of iTunes for Europe will be on June 15th, 2004.

Previous reports have also placed the launch of iTunes in June:

iTunes Europe Next Month? (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/05/20040527080444.shtml)
iTunes Europe - 1.29 Euros? (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/05/20040513060402.shtml)

[Bakey]

I say it is a crap shoot as to if anything comes out before WWDC... so I just sit and ponder WWJD.

PS - first post!

What!? Surely I can't be the only one who is lost on this one!!!!

By the way; it would be nice to see the appearance of the iTMS over here in Europe... dunno if I'd use it, but nice all the same!!

[MrMacMan]

yay, all good news.

:D


iPod, Apple Displays, PowerMacs, iMac -- wwhoooo! :)

[nifty]

So there.

[eric67]

I say it is a crap shoot as to if anything comes out before WWDC... so I just sit and ponder WWJD.

PS - first post!
Apple has announced an official press conference on June 18th..I am sure it is not (most likely not) for hardware but for iTMS Europe.
Now with this news from this german web site... I am a bit puzzled...
... 15th will be on Tuesday...the susual day used by Apple to announce important news or for releasing hardware aupdate!!!
let's see, only 10 days to go

[alirio]

I'll be pissed if...

1- It's a Powerbook G5 announcement: just got my 15" last October...

2- It's iTunes Music Store for Europe: hello???? Canada left on the back-burner, eh?

[yoman]

bring on the official

NEXT TUESDAY™

threads and rumors :)

[Veldek]

I'll be pissed if...

1- It's a Powerbook G5 announcement: just got my 15" last October...


Well, that's 8 months ago. Quite some time, don't you think?

[fixyourthinking]

I don't think the powerpage has EVER been right about any rumor (that they started)

They did have the backlit keyboard but 2 YEARS BEFORE the intro - prolly just speculation.

PowerPage posts rumors for hits. The stories they post are recycled. The website owner Jason O Grady is the rudest clod on the Mac Web.

The website itself is often problematic and comments are often deleted.

[alirio]

I R O N Y

Ever heard of it? EH?

In all seriousness, though, I think ITMS for Europe would be great.

I wonder where I left my stock broker's number????

[zulgand04]

Wow has gone from slow news to several updates aday. Things are getting exciteing. iTunes Europe or PM what ever bring them on.
_Neal

[slightly]

...obviously "What Would Jobs Do?".

[Mac|caM]

It's going to be iTMS Europe. Apple's sat on their butts too long on this one and Napster has beat 'em to it. It doesn't matter that Napster is a sucky service- it's the principle. Plus, it's too close to WWDC to announce any major hardware. I'm guessing we'll see new G5s (duh), iMac G5s, and maybe 4G iPods at WWDC. No new 'Books; it's been too short a time since they were last updated.

[iriejedi]

WWJD - What Would Jesus... Uh I mean, Jobs Do?

Release the G5 early and ship at WWDC or just keep stringing us along until the book of Revelations is read to the masses on June 28th ;)

What!? Surely I can't be the only one who is lost on this one!!!!

By the way; it would be nice to see the appearance of the iTMS over here in Europe... dunno if I'd use it, but nice all the same!!

[nuckinfutz]

I think the iMac gets announed next week.

The main reason is because the WWDC keynote is only so long and it would take too much time to announce the iMac G5 and the new Powermac G5s plus give adequate time to showing off Tiger.

Hence

Apple announces Imac next week. PMs during the show and then dovetails to how PM are perfect for running Tiger.

Badda Boom Badda Bing

[MacsRgr8]

Arn is having a busy day

[Veldek]

I R O N Y

Ever heard of it? EH?

In all seriousness, though, I think ITMS for Europe would be great.

I wonder where I left my stock broker's number????

Of course, my answer was irony, too. Didn't you notice? :rolleyes:

[dgoss]

This might be my time to chime in by saying that the PowerPage truly blows. They amaze me at their level of incompetence. They are constantly off in their rumor reporting - and then somehow feel that they were in the end on course. Their new is hardly. I occasionaly check in because I know they cover the Ericsson cell phones constantly and I'm waiting for a new model ---- other than than, Jason O. Grady, forget it!

[Macmaniac]

I think the iMac gets announed next week.

The main reason is because the WWDC keynote is only so long and it would take too much time to announce the iMac G5 and the new Powermac G5s plus give adequate time to showing off Tiger.

Hence

Apple announces Imac next week. PMs during the show and then dovetails to how PM are perfect for running Tiger.

Badda Boom Badda Bing
That would be sweet, the iMac G5, and iTMS for Europe! Then at WWDC Steve can spend more time on the new Powermac G5's:) Drool, my money is waiting for Rev. B's Apple!

[paulypants]

I don't think any hardware before WWDC, probably ITMS Europe

[Freg3000]

Well June 15th is the following week, not next week. "Next week's" Tuesday is June 8th. And then WWDC is June 28th. And then someone said June 18th?

It might be easier to count which days are not possible. :D

Hope you guys in Europe can get the iTMS soon, you've waited so long.

[wowser]

the most likely candidate appears to be iTunes for Europe.


here's hoping!

[SuperChuck]

Wouldn't this more likely be the rumored SuperDrive iBook?

[~Shard~]

No matter what is released, it's all good - between next Tuesday and WWDC, we could be seeing new displays, G5 iMacs, updated PowerMacs, iTMS Europe - it's all good! I personally don't care what order they're announced in... :cool:

[Wonder Boy]

living in the us, i have no interest in the itms release in europe except that i looking forward to the end of all the "why not europe" "europe always gets screwed by apple" whining. at first i agreed, then annoyed and by january i had had enough. its like g5 powerbooks and new powermacs. they will be released when they are released. deal with it.

[wPod]

any new hardware will be announced at WWDC . . . so its probably iTunes!!! go europe

[Moonlight]

I'll be pissed if...

1- It's a Powerbook G5 announcement: just got my 15" last October...

2- It's iTunes Music Store for Europe: hello???? Canada left on the back-burner, eh?


You got nuuuuuuuuuuuuuthing to worry about..
As far as ITMS europe, *cough*whocares

[jholzner]

Well, hopefully if it's the Europe iTMS they will just do a world wide launch. So that all of Europe AND Canada, Japan, and wherever else they want to launch. Now THAT will steal Napsters thunder. Oh, and yes Napster beat apple to Europe but they are ONLY in the UK.

[Darwin]

Well, hopefully if it's the Europe iTMS they will just do a world wide launch. So that all of Europe AND Canada, Japan, and wherever else they want to launch. Now THAT will steal Napsters thunder. Oh, and yes Napster beat apple to Europe but they are ONLY in the UK.

jholzner, not targeting you but

Napster came to the UK before Apple...........

That wouldn't have anything to do with this problem of the pricing of songs would it?

And also that Napster might not have taken a stand on this and so they went with the pricing that the music business gave them?

That seems like the only problem that I can see :rolleyes:

[benoda]

I don't think the powerpage has EVER been right about any rumor (that they started)

They did have the backlit keyboard but 2 YEARS BEFORE the intro - prolly just speculation.

PowerPage posts rumors for hits. The stories they post are recycled. The website owner Jason O Grady is the rudest clod on the Mac Web.

The website itself is often problematic and comments are often deleted.


I second that. You mind as well quote an anonymous poster from Craig's List......

[eric67]

Hope you guys in Europe can get the iTMS soon, you've waited so long.
Hope you guys in Europe can get the iTMS soon, you've waited too long

my current filing is :
on the 15th, Apple announce the new iPod (including 60GB iPod + maybe additional features...video??)
on the 18th : official announcement of iTMS Europe
then on the 21st (overnight), all over Europe it is "music's day", basically one of the biggest night of the year...you can take your intrument, go to the street, and start playing music all night.
Free concerts everywhere...it is simply amazing

[pjkelnhofer]

So there.

I think you are wrong. It makes perfect sense to announce iTMS Europe a couple of weeks before WWDC. First of all, it is not something that would make sense at WWDC (what the heck do developers care if Europeans can buy music from Apple). Secondly, it will get Apple in the news just in time to make sure everyone is watching when WWDC arrives.

[Steven1621]

it's about time that our friends across the pond get iTMS.

[pjkelnhofer]

Hope you guys in Europe can get the iTMS soon, you've waited too long

my current filing is :
on the 15th, Apple announce the new iPod (including 60GB iPod + maybe additional features...video??)
on the 18th : official announcement of iTMS Europe
then on the 21st (overnight), all over Europe it is "music's day", basically one of the biggest night of the year...you can take your intrument, go to the street, and start playing music all night.
Free concerts everywhere...it is simply amazing

I would be unhappy if they announced the 60GB iPod. The Toshiba announced said they will begin producing the drives in July or August. It is hard to imagine them announcing something that is not going to ship for at least three months on just a random Tuesday. It is one thing at a keynote to say we have this coming soon. It is another to simply announce via press release that there will be 60GB iPod in three months.
I suspect iTMS Europe is the best we can hope for. If it turns out to be a piece of hardware, then there must be something truly spectacular coming at WWDC that they want all the attention on.

[arn]

I'll agree and say PowerPage has not been right about a rumor in a long long time. If it wasn't for the German publication somewhat making the pieces fit together somewhat, I wouldn't even publish it.

arn

[TWinbrook46636]

Apple has announced an official press conference on June 18th..

They have? Are you sure? Did they send invites out like they did for the NAB press event?

[applekid]

Is the good news we've finally been waiting for?

[aswitcher]

Hope you guys in Europe can get the iTMS soon, you've waited so long.


I would have thought the English speaking Canadian and Australia markets would have been easy to do than any other...

[MikeH]

Well the iTunes store for Europe would be nice - I look forward to giving it a go.

I noticed that earlier someone was fed up with people outside the US whining about no European iTunes, may I just say firstly I'm not one of them and I can understand why it took so long, but for those of you in the US who think of Europe as a United States of Europe consider this:

Imagine the US compressed into a smaller space, each 'state' having a different language and take on religion, each having it's own political system, varying currencies and tax laws not to mention in some cases centuries of armed conflict - to be honest it's a wonder it's easy to get around Europe as it is - sorting the legal side of iTunes Europe must have been a nightmare.

So for those of you in the US - consider yourself lucky, the European Union 'melting pot' is massivley complex at the best of times (you used to need four types of currency - English, French, Belgium & Dutch - just to drive from the UK to Holland a while back, a distance of about 450 miles...)

[Freg3000]

I would have thought the English speaking Canadian and Australia markets would have been easy to do than any other...

I don't think the fact that some countries share a common language makes it any easier for Apple. The biggest problem for Canada has been complex music copyrights (at least from what I can tell....there seems to be a bitter debate whether this great delay is due to Canadian law or Apple's lethargicness-I tend to believe it is the former). Regardless, hopefully all major music markets will get to experience the iTMS in their own backyard soon, including Canada and Australia.

Hang in there as you wait.....

[wowser]

living in the us, i have no interest in the itms release in europe except that i looking forward to the end of all the "why not europe" "europe always gets screwed by apple" whining. at first i agreed, then annoyed and by january i had had enough. its like g5 powerbooks and new powermacs. they will be released when they are released. deal with it.

if you lived in europe , you would be one of the 'whingers"

[rdowns]

I'll be pissed if...

1- It's a Powerbook G5 announcement: just got my 15" last October...

2- It's iTunes Music Store for Europe: hello???? Canada left on the back-burner, eh?

1. Ha Ha

2. Back burner? How many potential customers in Europe? Close to 100 million I think. Canada? No more than a big state in the US.

[The Cheat]

2. Back burner? How many potential customers in Europe? Close to 100 million I think. Canada? No more than a big state in the US.

Hahaha...100 million? The population of the EU is greater than the US! Approximately 375 million people live in the EU compared to about 292 million in the US.

As for Canada, 31 million people are lucky enough to live here. :D I guess that is about the population of California, so you are not far off, though it is not an insignificant number.

[coolkamio]

Hahaha...100 million? The population of the EU is greater than the US! Approximately 375 million people live in the EU compared to about 292 million in the US.

As for Canada, 31 million people are lucky enough to live here. :D I guess that is about the population of California, so you are not far off, though it is not an insignificant number.

The Cheat, The population of European Union it's much bigger now..
A few moths back, only 15 lands constitute the European Union, Now there are 25..

I don't know the exact population number, but i'm sure that its more bigger now.. Though, I don't think Apple will launch iTMS in all the countries of EU..

[windowsblowsass]

Hahaha...100 million? The population of the EU is greater than the US! Approximately 375 million people live in the EU compared to about 292 million in the US.

As for Canada, 31 million people are lucky enough to live here. :D I guess that is about the population of California, so you are not far off, though it is not an insignificant number.
yeah but what are the odds of 400million actually buying itunes

plus it would take a while to change hot new to this is new , eh
and rock to rock, eh so on and so on

in europe you can just use translating software, eh

[Freg3000]

yeah but what are the odds of 400million actually buying itunes


What are the odds of a iTMS for Luxembourg :rolleyes:.

I doubt Apple will release a iTMS for Europe or the E.U., but rather for the big three (England/France/Germany) and expand as it sees fit or laws easily permit it to do so. It is hard to compare markets just on population.

Edit: No offense to the Mac user in Luxembourg....:)

[eric67]

The Cheat, The population of European Union it's much bigger now..
A few moths back, only 15 lands constitute the European Union, Now there are 25..

I don't know the exact population number, but i'm sure that its more bigger now.. Though, I don't think Apple will launch iTMS in all the countries of EU..
but EU had already more inhabitants when it was only 15 lands than US... ;)

a bit weird mention? try to get more info and not rely on CNN knowledge...

a bit like this previous post
So for those of you in the US - consider yourself lucky, the European Union 'melting pot' is massivley complex at the best of times (you used to need four types of currency - English, French, Belgium & Dutch - just to drive from the UK to Holland a while back, a distance of about 450 miles...)
Did you hear already about Euro currency??? you know this sign "€"; with a value 1€=1.2US$...already running for more than 2 years in most of the european countries...including Holland, France Belgium...OK not England, but time will come where they will join Euroland...or definately decide to stay away from us...sometime we (other EU countries) really have the filling that UK is simply US representant in Europe, I mean UK / US not much different...just kidding

[eric67]

yeah but what are the odds of 400million actually buying itunes

plus it would take a while to change hot new to this is new , eh
and rock to rock, eh so on and so on

in europe you can just use translating software, eh
Are you just kidding or you are definitely ignorant??
come on, in each European country there is already an Apple Store, most European citizen speaks at least one foreign language (hardly the case in US where some even have problem to speak their own native language...) so please do you really think that this is a barrier to iTMS development or extension in Europe??
NO
The real problem is:
- We have different regulations for music DRM from one country to the other
- Music major did not believe in iTMS originally so, they let Apple doing what Steve wanted...and the success was immediately there...now in the US Music Major can not come back, it is too late...so for Europe they are going to ask high price/track and make Apple's life difficult in order to ensure that iTMS Europe success will not drain too much of their profit from standard CD sells...that's it.

[eric67]

What are the odds of a iTMS for Luxembourg :rolleyes:.

I doubt Apple will release a iTMS for Europe or the E.U., but rather for the big three (England/France/Germany) and expand as it sees fit or laws easily permit it to do so. It is hard to compare markets just on population.

Edit: No offense to the Mac user in Luxembourg....:)
I think you can add Spain, Austria and Italy to your list; regarding Benelux (Belgium, Netherland and Luxembourg) a single iTMS store is possible.

the real question is how Apple will organize it...that local music stars can be found locally on the iTMS...

[coumerelli]

the real question is how Apple will organize it...that local music stars can be found locally on the iTMS...

easy: preferences

[Foocha]

Whilst the Euro will make the launch of a European music store a little easier, the UK is not the only EU country that has not adopted it. Of the original 15, there is also Sweden and Denmark, and currently none of the new members are part of it.

Localisation issues:

Language
Marketing
PR
Local content
Currency
Legal
Call centre/support


These issues apply in Canada as well - remember French speakers!

The UK (not England, please!!) may speak English, but we have different spelling, and different words (e.g. shop vs store). We also have different musical taste to North America.

Last thought - didn't a judge in Canada find that it was legal to swap music files online? Is there any need for a music store there, if you're allowed to download for free anyway?

[maxcady808]

Hi,

Just got the Sun news paper for some trashy stories and there is a small story about the launch.

'David Gray has recorded some special tracks that will only be available through iStore - the online download site for ipod junkies. They will be accessible when the much anticipated UK iStore site opens June 14th'

Read Story here (http://www.thesun.co.uk/section/0,,4,00.html)

[Zaty]

What are the odds of a iTMS for Luxembourg :rolleyes:.

I doubt Apple will release a iTMS for Europe or the E.U., but rather for the big three (England/France/Germany) and expand as it sees fit or laws easily permit it to do so. It is hard to compare markets just on population.

Edit: No offense to the Mac user in Luxembourg....:)

Like I said in another thread on iTMS Europe awhile back, A representative of Apple Switzerland was quoted in a local newspaper at beginning of the year that iTMS Switzerland was ready to be launched but they had to wait for the rest of Europe. So I'd be surprised and disappointed with Apple if your scenario came true. Besides, I think it's possible that some countries where none of those three languages (German, French, English) is spoken might have to do with iTMS not yet localised in their language but I do think they will launch it in all Western and Central European countries at the same time.

[Nermal]

Did you hear already about Euro currency??? you know this sign "€"; with a value 1€=1.2US$...already running for more than 2 years in most of the european countries

That's why he said you used to need four different currencies.

[CTerry]

iTMS for Europe sounds most likely, maybe with iPod mini pre-orders at the same time?

[curmi]

I would have thought the English speaking Canadian and Australia markets would have been easy to do than any other...

I doubt Apple have even looked in to getting it in Australia. They don't seem to care about us here - perhaps they feel the market is too small, or that we're lost to Microsoft...

Telstra got their music store up and running months ago here (WMA download only), so you can't say Apple would have had trouble signing up the labels. I suspect Apple just didn't bother...

:(

[MikeH]

Thank you Nermal, good to see someone noticed the use of the past tense.

[wdlove]

Like others, I just don't see anything happening before WWDC. The iTMS Europe is something that could be announced at anytime.

[CTerry]

Next Week: iTMS Announced

Two Weeks Time: Bailiffs sell my house.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

[Freg3000]

For the record: I hope every European country can get the iTMS at the same time as soon as possible. All the countries of the world for that matter. :)

This is so exciting! When was the last time we were talking about Apple needing to bump up announcements from a major keynote (WWDC) because there is so much stuff to announce, and not enough time in a 1.5-2 hour keynote! :D

iTMS Europe, Displays, iPod, Power Macs, G5 iMacs.......[drool]

[The Cheat]

Its not language barriers that slow down or prevent expansion to other countries, but time and money. Negotiating with different countries music publishers just takes time. Even if the whole world spoke the same language the same problem would still exist, there's just no way around it.

On the other hand why it has taken THIS long in places like the UK and Canada where Napster and others have already launched, I guess you could chalk that up to Apple just draggin their feet. :rolleyes:

[Borbarad]

First:

Heise.de is not the rumor publisher. Its a special radio Station from Berlin " Radio Berlin-Brandenburg/Fritz ". But he point is that not only this radio station is sending out this rumor, but it seems that this was(is) also broadcastet via TV!

As for Heise.de (the publisher is "heise Verlag"), they are the most important computer hardware/software website in germany. Heise itself is publishing to damn important Mags:

1) c't: Best Mag on planet (I new the amercans/british and some other foreign.., but they are far far away from reaching the c't level)
http://www.heise.de/ct/

2) iX: simmilar to c't, but more complecated and server, programming network orientated.
http://www.heise.de/ix/

3) The well known (even outside Germany) Heise Newsticker (Linux, Unix, Win, PC, Mac whatever...)
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/

So, now lets go for the rumor:

I don't think there will be a iTMS before MacWorld Paris :D

B

[Windowlicker]

I work at an apple reseller/apple care service and my one week vacation (gotta read for the university entry exam or whatever it's called) ends on monday.. it's gonna be nice to go back to work on tuesday :D

I just realized I can watch the keynote on a 23" Cinema Display (with a 2mb connection)! :DDD YAY! if that's not nice then what is?! i wish it was 28th already..

[Windowlicker]

Like I said in another thread on iTMS Europe awhile back, A representative of Apple Switzerland was quoted in a local newspaper at beginning of the year that iTMS Switzerland was ready to be launched but they had to wait for the rest of Europe. So I'd be surprised and disappointed with Apple if your scenario came true. Besides, I think it's possible that some countries where none of those three languages (German, French, English) is spoken might have to do with iTMS not yet localised in their language but I do think they will launch it in all Western and Central European countries at the same time.

um.. there shouldn't be any localisation problems.. as far as i'm concerned, if using the finnish mac os x (& itunes), the itms already shows everything in finnish.. so the language shouldn't be an excuse.

[MacRohde]

That way I have a good reason for buying an iPod!

Please, Apple, pretty please release it all over Europe..... :cool: :cool:

[Llywelyn]

It is likely we'll either see an iTMS_Europe announcement before MacWorld or after MacWorld, but not during MacWorld.

That said, I can see why Apple is putting so much focus on Europe and leaving Australia and Canada out of things. The estimated population of Australia, in July 2003, was 19,731,984 with a GDP of $525.5 billion (2002).

Population of Canada is 32,207,113. $934.1 billion GDP (2002) and requires support for two languages (Canadian French).

For comparison, the population of California is 35,116,033 (2002 est).

Now let's look at the three "highest probability" markets in the EU:

Population of Germany is 82,398,326 with a GDP of $2.16 trillion.
Population of France is 60,180,529 with a a GDP of $1.558 trillion.
Population of the UK is 60,094,648 with a GDP of $1.528 trillion.

Raw population and GDP (at PPP) don't tell us terribly much, but they do give an indicator of why Apple may consider at least certain countries of the EU to be a higher priority than either Australia or Canada. It is worth more trouble on Apple's part, more concessions, and more of their time to break into Germany than it is to break into Australia. Using a simplistic model: even if the Australians buy twice as many songs on average per person and they get half of the margin in Germany as in Australia, Germany is still a bigger market to pursue (though not by much).

I doubt that their margin on each individual song sold is going to be half in Germany what it would be in Australia, and I don't think the Australians are going to buy twice as much per person either.

This is just speculation on my part, but I would think there is also an intangible benefit in breaking into neighboring markets: once you are in the UK, France, and Germany getting into other EU countries is going to be a lot easier (and the sum size of the EU is larger than that of the US). The same does would hold true for Australia or Canada.

(all stats from the CIA world factbook)

[mklos]

I think the iMac gets announed next week.

The main reason is because the WWDC keynote is only so long and it would take too much time to announce the iMac G5 and the new Powermac G5s plus give adequate time to showing off Tiger.

Hence

Apple announces Imac next week. PMs during the show and then dovetails to how PM are perfect for running Tiger.

Badda Boom Badda Bing

Steve's keynotes usually last around 2 to 2.5 hours. Thats more than enough time to demo Tiger, announce PowerMac G5's, and a G5 iMac. Its not like Steve has to go through the new architecture again for the PowerMac G5 because it will have the same architecture. Pretty much the same goes for the iMac with maybe a few revisions made to it. The Tiger demo shouldn't take any longer than 45 minutes or so. I think the iMac G5 will be Steve's patent "There is one more thing...". If so hold on to your seats people!

If you don't remember last January's Keynote (MWSF 03'), Apple announced/demoed, iLife 1.0, Keynote 1.0, Safari Beta, and 2 new PowerBook Models (12" and 17"). All which was demoed fully, so your observation is soooo incorrect!

The WWDC better not be all about the ITMS and the iPod! I'm soo sick and tired of Apple using big events for the iPod and the ITMS, and ignoring their main money maker, which is their computers. Anyone who thinks Apple's main money maker is the iPod is smoking something! Even though they sell more iPods and computers combined, they still make about 60% to 70% of their revenues off their computers.

[morkintosh]

So there.

no no; I say video iPod running the spanking new iPod OS 1.0 (code name Pug).

... hey, you never know!

[Colonel Panik]

Last thought - didn't a judge in Canada find that it was legal to swap music files online? Is there any need for a music store there, if you're allowed to download for free anyway?

No, he found that you couldn't prosecute someone for having files in their shared folder. He never condoned downloading copyrighted material for free, or mass pirating.

[ingenious]

no no; I say video iPod running the spanking new iPod OS 1.0 (code name Pug).

... hey, you never know!


It would be awesome if the iPod ran a full version (so as to not produce confusion like Windows XP Tablet PC edition, Home Edition, etc.) of OS X 10.3 or 10.4!

[wdlove]

Steve's keynotes usually last around 2 to 2.5 hours. Thats more than enough time to demo Tiger, announce PowerMac G5's, and a G5 iMac. Its not like Steve has to go through the new architecture again for the PowerMac G5 because it will have the same architecture. Pretty much the same goes for the iMac with maybe a few revisions made to it. The Tiger demo shouldn't take any longer than 45 minutes or so. I think the iMac G5 will be Steve's patent "There is one more thing...". If so hold on to your seats people!

If you don't remember last January's Keynote (MWSF 03'), Apple announced/demoed, iLife 1.0, Keynote 1.0, Safari Beta, and 2 new PowerBook Models (12" and 17"). All which was demoed fully, so your observation is soooo incorrect!

The WWDC better not be all about the ITMS and the iPod! I'm soo sick and tired of Apple using big events for the iPod and the ITMS, and ignoring their main money maker, which is their computers. Anyone who thinks Apple's main money maker is the iPod is smoking something! Even though they sell more iPods and computers combined, they still make about 60% to 70% of their revenues off their computers.

I agree, come on Steve let us hear about Tiger and computer upgrades. The rest could be released during the week of WWDC, let someone announce.