Macrumors is set to pass up Team MacOS X

[cjc343]

If anyone starts a thread at their site, post a link... I'll join in.


Our #1 user is now producing more than the rest of us were as a team. Pretty scary, and pretty good.

Thank you to everyone who has continued to contribute to Macrumors, we are looking at the top 10 right now, and our average hasn't quite levelled out yet.

[pinto32]

If anyone starts a thread at their site, post a link... I'll join in.


Our #1 user is now producing more than the rest of us were as a team. Pretty scary, and pretty good.

Thank you to everyone who has continued to contribute to Macrumors, we are looking at the top 10 right now, and our average hasn't quite levelled out yet.


Huh?? This would be great news, but that would mean we have nearly doubled out output in a matter of a few weeks....and barring any MAJOR changes in anyone's folding output, we would be several years away from making it into the top 10...

[cjc343]

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_overtake.php?s=&t=3446

Look at the Points Today and compare them to other teams. That will show a current approximate of how many points we are getting.

About major output changes:

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=28932

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/extra_page.php?s=&u=28932

Does that explain everything a little better? :D


edit: points today, not points per day

[cjc343]

if by the time you are looking the stats, the points today are low, check the previous day at http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=3446

[MrMacMan]

Sweet LORD!

:eek:


Damn fine job.

[britboy]

If anyone starts a thread at their site, post a link... I'll join in.


The thread where they were talking about potential threats has unfortunately been closed.

http://teammacosx.homeunix.com/forum/cgi-bin/ikonboard.pl?;act=ST;f=1;t=578;st=25

Seems like they don't want to hear anything other than their own twisted version of events. I wouldn't recommend going there to post. They appear somewhat annoyed about jethroted's sudden increase in power. :(

[LethalWolfe]

The thread where they were talking about potential threats has unfortunately been closed.

http://teammacosx.homeunix.com/forum/cgi-bin/ikonboard.pl?;act=ST;f=1;t=578;st=25

Seems like they don't want to hear anything other than their own twisted version of events. I wouldn't recommend going there to post. They appear somewhat annoyed about jethroted's sudden increase in power. :(


I would be too if jethroted wasn't on our team.


Lethal

[Mustang Mac]

When the hammer falls, which side of the abyss will you be on? The side of right or the side of might?

[cjc343]

ok, mustang mac: Explain YOUR theory behind Jethroted's point increase without any processors being seen as added in the Stanford site. Keep in mind that each machine needs to have a unique machine ID or things will screw up.


edit: I also want to see proof that Jethroted is not following the EULA

[cjc343]

The thread where they were talking about potential threats has unfortunately been closed.

http://teammacosx.homeunix.com/forum/cgi-bin/ikonboard.pl?;act=ST;f=1;t=578;st=25

Seems like they don't want to hear anything other than their own twisted version of events. I wouldn't recommend going there to post. They appear somewhat annoyed about jethroted's sudden increase in power. :(

yeah, I noticed that. I posted second to last before they decided to lock the thread.... I wonder if I would get kicked for starting a topic on their boards...... probably.

[brap]

yeah, I noticed that. I posted second to last before they decided to lock the thread.... I wonder if I would get kicked for starting a topic on their boards...... probably.

Sounds very much like soured grapes. "HONOR" indeed!

If it wasn't kosher, the Stamford server would reject the WUs -- like they won't have learned from the experiences of the SETI@home project. Please.

[cjc343]

Not to mention that the admins on the Folding-Community forums have seen the thread on their forums about Jethroted. Their only concern was the references to keygens, warez, P2P, and the like.

The admins there (from my knowledge) are either in direct contact with the people who are at the head of the F@H project, or they are the people at the head of the F@H project. (I said from my knowedge, this means that I do NOT know this for certain, and you should not quote me as having said it.)

[NoahJ]

Be prepared folks, the hammer is going to fall on this issue, soon. HONOR indeed.

[cjc343]

The thread on the Team MacOS X forums has been reopened.

[adamjay]

maybe i am just ignorant.. but how could Jethroted's output be illegitimate??
didn't he mention on another thread that multiple machines were hooked up to seperate networks or something, thus fewer Machine #'s than actual machines?

could someone explain this claim of invalid folding ?

[mvc]

maybe i am just ignorant.. but how could Jethroted's output be illegitimate??
didn't he mention on another thread that multiple machines were hooked up to seperate networks or something, thus fewer Machine #'s than actual machines?

could someone explain this claim of invalid folding ?

I know nothing about this other than what I have read on this thread and jethroted's and the Team OSX & folding forums, (and moderators please feel free to delete this post if it is inappropriate) but I believe the implication being made is that Jethroted's folding@home app is somehow being installed on machines without user knowledge or permission, i.e like a virus?

I fold for MacRumor's (slowly;-), and this would be really sad if it were true, but it's just as sad if its just a damned lie designed to discredit him and us.

I guess he will keep us posted :confused:

[Mustang Mac]

I have my own theories and have made them known to the appropriate people, so I can't comment. This has become quite a quagmire and I really wish that we could turn the clock back about 2 weeks. We have had our rivalry, but it was only intended in the spirit of fun and to keep things interesting. A little 'nudge' to be your best. Well, unfortunately, this has turned ugly now. I just hope that the project emerges unscathed.

[adamjay]

okay, now that i have spent the time reading both forums... i'll give you guys my conclusions.

First, these things i beleive to be true. Jethroted has installed folding on hundreds of networked machines, and he has done so with the permission of the owners of those machines. He made a .msi file to make the installation easier, as anyone setting up a folding farm wouldn't want to have to individually type team and user #'s on each machine. This .msi file was mistaken for another .msi file and has implanted itself in some other shared file that has been circulated quite quickly around.

Things i can't explain completely but do not alarm me: The low number of active processors listed within his user stats. If the machines are networked behind thick proxy's, this is understandable but i cannot explain it 100%. also, the gentleman "Chad" on the other folding forum pasted his Console text that showed the user name as "jethroted@yahoo.com", a name that doesn't exist in stanford's stats database. if it did that would mean that a user completed at least 1 or 2 WU's under this name, and jethroted would not get those points but rather, a new user jethroted@yahoo.com would, right? i also do not understand why the .msi has installed folding to be a Maximum processor usage priority program. If jehtroted truley wanted to maliciously install F@H on random computers, in a Spyware format (like i beleive he is being accused of, eh??) he'd probably leave it as a low priority app that people wouldn't notice until at least a few WU's were completed.

just my thoughts, i beleive that there is only circumstancial evidence pointing to wrongdoing here, but once you unfold all the pieces its hardly even circumstancial at that point.

i can only hope that this doesn't taint the image of F@H in the extended cyber-community. My mom won't run F@H because she just got a new Athlon 64 and thinks its a spyware... if she gets wind of this situation, then F@H for her will surely never happen.

Also, we can only assume that jethroted means well. Though not all users here are American, the thought is that a man is innocent until proven guilty. He certainly doesn't look guilty to me, emailing and conversing with the users who have been wrongfully 'infected' with F@H, and trying to remedy the situation.

[cjc343]

...the gentleman "Chad" on the other folding forum pasted his Console text that showed the user name as "jethroted@yahoo.com", a name that doesn't exist in stanford's stats database. if it did that would mean that a user completed at least 1 or 2 WU's under this name, and jethroted would not get those points but rather, a new user jethroted@yahoo.com would, right?


I brought this up in one of the threads and was told that Stanford uses the "@yahoo" part to keep users seperate by domain. It doesn't work perfectly, but if there are 2 users with the same user name coming from different domains, then they can sort it out.

[Rower_CPU]

Be prepared folks, the hammer is going to fall on this issue, soon. HONOR indeed.
I have my own theories and have made them known to the appropriate people, so I can't comment. This has become quite a quagmire and I really wish that we could turn the clock back about 2 weeks. We have had our rivalry, but it was only intended in the spirit of fun and to keep things interesting. A little 'nudge' to be your best. Well, unfortunately, this has turned ugly now. I just hope that the project emerges unscathed.

Quite the flair for the melodramatic you've got over there at Team Mac OS X.

Let's give the chicken little act a rest until more information has come out about this. As others have posted, there is little to indicate intentional wrongdoing on jethroted's part - he has contacted Vijay and they will sort things out.

[Mustang Mac]

Excellent. Communication is the key. Not being melodramatic, just vigilant and expressive. Thanks.

[adamjay]

I brought this up in one of the threads and was told that Stanford uses the "@yahoo" part to keep users seperate by domain. It doesn't work perfectly, but if there are 2 users with the same user name coming from different domains, then they can sort it out.

this makes sense, as when you search for jethroted@yahoo.com , 2 names pop up

Jethroted and jethroted , but each have 6 processors in the last 7 days, 16 in the last 50.

sorry guys, i'm wanting to make knee jerk reactions like others are, but with so little information, i just can't judge the situation right now.

[cjc343]

this makes sense, as when you search for jethroted@yahoo.com , 2 names pop up

Jethroted and jethroted , but each have 6 processors in the last 7 days, 16 in the last 50.

sorry guys, i'm wanting to make knee jerk reactions like others are, but with so little information, i just can't judge the situation right now.


He is listed twice because he has folded for 2 teams. Anonymous and Macrumors.

[adamjay]

He is listed twice because he has folded for 2 teams. Anonymous and Macrumors.


i see,
so that is further evidence of no intentional wrong doing.

[mvc]

Excellent. Communication is the key. Not being melodramatic, just vigilant and expressive. Thanks.

That's wonderful Mustang. But, just a small point, you might want to think a little about your sig. As far as I was aware, folding is all about benefiting others, but your sig makes it sound like it's all about you. Is that the image Team Mac OSX want to project? :cool:

[Mustang Mac]

As far as I was aware, folding is all about benefiting others, but your sig makes it sound like it's all about you. Is that the image Team Mac OSX want to project?

Ouch. Well obviously you have not taken the time to visit the Folding Community forum, or any other folding forum for that matter. Some people are proud of what they have accomplished. Spent time, money, and effort helping the cause. Yes it is about benefitting others, but not at the cost of others. At your OWN cost, or at the very least express permission with no hidden files and unknown installers. Clear the air and keep it clear. Works for me. :)

[MrMacMan]

Oh please.
Please please please.


He never meant to do any harm, there was a mistaken .msi file that was released on a P2P network, but alas that machienes that he just installed on were not by the P2P file, it was all of the computers he has installed it on recentally.

[mvc]

Ouch. Well obviously you have not taken the time to visit the Folding Community forum, or any other folding forum for that matter. Some people are proud of what they have accomplished. Spent time, money, and effort helping the cause. Yes it is about benefitting others, but not at the cost of others. At your OWN cost, or at the very least express permission with no hidden files and unknown installers. Clear the air and keep it clear. Works for me. :)

You have every right to be proud of your effort, which is exceptional, but if Jethroteds is legitimate, so does he. Will you be happy for him and F@H?

I guess my point is if it all turns out that way it will look, at least in this thread, like you have a very severe dose of sour grapes, because your competitive pride in your effort is the main message you are giving in your sig.

[adamjay]

back to the subject at hand... macrumors is set to pass team macos x..
this is a fact!, i've been checking the overclocking.com overtake charts and Team MacOS X is now in the green, or in our sights!

our 24 hour average is growing rapidly, and there are currently 8 teams in our overtake sights. i have no doubt things will only get better, so keep folding guys and gals! as soon as the next revision hits, i'll be adding a Dual 2+GHz G5 to the arsenal, and possibly an Athlon.

and mustang mac, please try not to fart on the throne too much, we'll be taking that back soon enough.

[Mustang Mac]

and mustang mac, please try not to fart on the throne too much, we'll be taking that back soon enough.

Sorry. Too late. Besides, I figured you for a fart smeller! OOOPS! I meant smart feller! :p

[adamjay]

Sorry. Too late. Besides, I figured you for a fart smeller! OOOPS! I meant smart feller! :p

aha! touche' !!

anyways, have a Pheasant Plucking Day ;)

http://www.ebaynham.com/Merchant2/graphics/thumbs/phes_sm.gif

[Mustang Mac]

That's right! You mess with the best, you get plucked like the rest! ;) Here is a little historical information that would be best committed to memory.

The puzzler was: What was this body part? This is the answer: which clears up some profound questions of etymology, folklore and emotional symbolism. The body part which the French proposed to cut off of the English after defeating them was, of course, the MIDDLE FINGER, without which it is impossible to draw the renowned English longbow. This famous weapon was made of the native English yew tree, and so the act of drawing the longbow was known as plucking yew. Thus, when the victorious English waved their middle fingers at the defeated French, they said, See, we can still pluck yew! PLUCK YEW!

PS - PLUCK YEW TOO! :)

[Dreadnought]

We're gaining, we're gaining, we're gaining!

[adamjay]

indeed. i say definitely within 1 week we will regain the crown.

of course, by then it will be all sticky and smell like peanut butter.

[VijayPande]

Hi,

I just wanted to give your team a heads up on what's going on here out of respect for all of your contributions to F@H. There will be an official message tomorrow, but I wanted you to get advance information and hear it from me directly, rather than second hand.

Our logs prove that Jethroted's installer has gotten released way out of control on about 1000 CPUs that he clearly does not have the authorization to use (the IPs are scattered across virutally every different possible ISP). The large number of clients did not show up in the stats pages since all had the same MachineID.

Also, upon examining the installer, it has several aspects whose only goal is to fool the unwitting downloader into thinking that the Adobe install failed, but gives no information about Folding@Home. This is more than an .msi file which "somehow" got released to Limewire, etc. This has all the looks of a well-crafted plan. If you have any doubts, check out his installer for yourself. This is a very different situation than simply a team's specific installer, but something which can get people into very serious legal trouble and bring discredit to the project as a whole.

We have stopped all of Jethroted's clients and more measures will be announced tomorrow. This is clearly an extremely strong violation of the EULA and Stanford is internally investigating this (independent of and beyond the control of my team). We have to make sure that something like this never happens again and we will take the appropriate measures to discourage this.

I won't go into further details just now, but I can predict that many of the people on the team will consider our planned measures (TBA tomorrow) unfair. However, considering that the EULA was violated in such a strong manner, I think that points are the last thing that one should be worrying about at the moment. People have been convicted in US courts for lesser infractions.

Jethroted has been mostly open about this and I am sympathetic to him, but that does not make up for the damage that has been done. For example, if a script kiddie hacked into Stanford's medical school and unintentionally scrambled the records, that would still be a very serious violation (even if no harm was intended, these actions are based on what was the outcome and the means of the infraction).

Again, I wanted to tell your team directly early out of respect and thanks for all your contributions. You'll hear more tomorrow. I am sorry I can't be visiting your fine forum with more positive news.

[bousozoku]

It should be interesting to see how this is settled. If all of Jethroted's points are removed from the team, what will be left? This would certainly be a better way to handle the problem than to reset the whole team's points to zero but it will mean a big impact.

[Mr. Anderson]

Ouch! This isn't good.

As for what it means - I'm thinking team MacRumors might be reset to Zero points or disbanded. They'll want to make an example of this I'm sure - its not right, since what he's done is effectively a virus. He'll be lucky if there isn't any legal action.

Damn, sorry this had to happen - I'm sure its going to cause all sorts of buzz in the community (F@H) and I wouldn't be surprised if it gets more noteworthy exposure even end up as a blurb in cnn.com.

D

[yoman]

Ouch! This isn't good.

As for what it means - I'm thinking team MacRumors might be reset to Zero points or disbanded. They'll want to make an example of this I'm sure - its not right, since what he's done is effectively a virus. He'll be lucky if there isn't any legal action.

Damn, sorry this had to happen - I'm sure its going to cause all sorts of buzz in the community (F@H) and I wouldn't be surprised if it gets more noteworthy exposure even end up as a blurb in cnn.com.

D

why would a whole team be penalized for 1 member? If this is so then anyone could knock out any of the top teams by doing something similar.

[Mr. Anderson]

why would a whole team be penalized for 1 member? If this is so then anyone could knock out any of the top teams by doing something similar.

its the nature of the beast. I'm not saying that its going to happen, but he did say that it would seem unfair. Expect the worst and all, you know?

Speculation aside, this is serious, and they have to make sure that it doesn't happen again - hence the need for extreme measures. Remember, the reason we're in this is to help, not compete to see who has the most points - that's just a side issue.

Its point counting is quite similar to post count issues we've had here on MR - notice that you don't see post count next to your name anymore?

Just don't get upset at what ever they do tomorrow, accept it and continue folding for the right reasons.

D

[yoman]

its the nature of the beast. I'm not saying that its going to happen, but he did say that it would seem unfair. Expect the worst and all, you know?

Speculation aside, this is serious, and they have to make sure that it doesn't happen again - hence the need for extreme measures. Remember, the reason we're in this is to help, not compete to see who has the most points - that's just a side issue.

Its point counting is quite similar to post count issues we've had here on MR - notice that you don't see post count next to your name anymore?

Just don't get upset at what ever they do tomorrow, accept it and continue folding for the right reasons.

D

well if we are scrapped as a team. I wonder if we can start again and have some fun moving up the ranks again. :) If we can't even restart....hmm....well I guess I'll keep folding.

[VijayPande]

Just a quick reply: the measures would be isolated to Jethroted's account and since there is currently no evidence suggesting other team members were involved, etc no punative measures will be taken against the team.

[cjc343]

Thanks for the clarification...

It's too bad this turned out the way it did... if this had all been real, we would be in 9th place soon.

Sorry for all the trouble this has caused you, Stanford, and everyone else.


Now there are two things I want to hear: Mustang Mac's evidence, and Jethroted's current standing.

[Mr. Anderson]

Just a quick reply: the measures would be isolated to Jethroted's account and since there is currently no evidence suggesting other team members were involved, etc no punative measures will be taken against the team.

Thanks for letting us know more of what you planned. Its unfortunate that this had to happen - I just hope it all works out.

D

[NoahJ]

Now there are two things I want to hear: Mustang Mac's evidence, and Jethroted's current standing.

Why? What exactly will that accomplish?

The first part makes no difference one way or another except to somehow make you feel better that Mustang Mac may not have known anything ahead of time.

The second part will be answered tomorrow.

[cjc343]

Why? What exactly will that accomplish?

The first part makes no difference one way or another except to somehow make you feel better that Mustang Mac may not have known anything ahead of time.

The second part will be answered tomorrow.

First part: Because he said he had evidence, but he never gave it. I am simply curious as to what it is. No, it is not important.

Second part: I had meant that I wanted to know what Jethroted is thinking and whether he is maintaining innocence or not. I was aware that we would be told what was happening tomorrow.

[MacBandit]

The unfortunate part about this is jethroted could still be legally punished for this even if Stanford doesn't chose to do so. The Feds could catch wind of this and also it could infect a large business which could press charges. The real kicker is that jethroted could be completely innocent. He could have written the .MSI file and then someone else could have changed that into the malicious file that floating around.

[bousozoku]

Well, if jethroted's points are removed, that will put the team at #21, which is still quite good.

[Rower_CPU]

Vijay-

Thanks for stopping by and letting us know your course of action - it seems fair under the circumstances. Protecting the integrity of the project is, of course, your primary concern and this should accomplish that with minimal disruption.

[KingSleaze]

Not catching up, we are falling farther behind. Kudos to Jethroted for however he is cranking out so many points (wonder how many others are doing the same thing? I can't really see too many private citizens having access to more than 10 processors).

[Krizoitz]

This is so sad. Jethroted should be ashamed of himself. In addition to disrespecting the noble goals of the folding program he has given MacRumors a very bad name. I'd rather be in last place and do it honestly than first in this method.

[bousozoku]

Not catching up, we are falling farther behind. Kudos to Jethroted for however he is cranking out so many points (wonder how many others are doing the same thing? I can't really see too many private citizens having access to more than 10 processors).

Not paying attention, are you? His points are most likely going away because he's been cheating.

[Rower_CPU]

Easy there folks - every indication we've had is that this situation came about by accident, not through any sort of malicious intent on anyone on our team's part.

Take a few deep breaths and catch up on the situation before posting, please.

[MacBandit]

This is so sad. Jethroted should be ashamed of himself. In addition to disrespecting the noble goals of the folding program he has given MacRumors a very bad name. I'd rather be in last place and do it honestly than first in this method.

Your assuming that he did anything wrong. There is no proof and in fact quite the opposite that he did anything wrong. The only issue is there is basically a trojan horse in the wild with his .MSI file. This isn't necessarily his doing though.

[jackieonasses]

i know this might seem as a silly and stupid question. but i have 2 macs would that help at all? and what does it help? i understand the folding of proteins but i dont know what that does.

[MacBandit]

i know this might seem as a silly and stupid question. but i have 2 macs would that help at all? and what does it help? i understand the folding of proteins but i dont know what that does.

Every little bit helps. Follow this link for information.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21908

[Cprossu]

The following is an opinion. It is not in any way meant to represent Pande group or Folding-Community.org 's positions.

I want to personally thank the members of the MacRumors community for being cooperative as well as helping us sort out this mess.

This is a serious matter and I’m sorry it developed into what it is today.

I personally hope that it wasn't jethroted who made this package, and if he did that he come forward.

I hope that Vijay has a good plan of action for what has happened that will clean up this disaster before it becomes any worse.

I want all of you in the entire folding community to help us in respecting the EULA and what it stands for in the future starting today so this never happens again. It hurts the community, Stanford, and most importantly the research when something like this happens.

-Cprossu.

[boomtopper]

I'll join macrumors in building your points. I will set 2 pc laptops 1 powerbook 1 g5 powermac and 1 pc to work.

[Krizoitz]

Your assuming that he did anything wrong. There is no proof and in fact quite the opposite that he did anything wrong. The only issue is there is basically a trojan horse in the wild with his .MSI file. This isn't necessarily his doing though.

In that case my apologies, I read the previous posts wrong.

[cjc343]

I'll join macrumors in building your points. I will set 2 pc laptops 1 powerbook 1 g5 powermac and 1 pc to work.


:) Thanks.

[adamjay]

:::sniffle::: the dramatic points production was too good to be true.

good to see some new machines coming into the fold though, and that Pande isn't penalizing the entire team.

[Dreadnought]

Tooo bad. Good luck to you Jethroted, whatever the outcome is, you have my support!

[nw_mike]

I would say that taking away over 300,000 points is a penalty.

[bousozoku]

I would say that taking away over 300,000 points is a penalty.

Considering that they could have reset all of our points to zero, it wasn't much of a penalty. If you consider that the points were probably ill-gotten, they weren't the team's anyway.

In any case, we need to focus on getting points and members properly and increasing our chances now. :)

[lssmit02]

Considering that they could have reset all of our points to zero, it wasn't much of a penalty. If you consider that the points were probably ill-gotten, they weren't the team's anyway.

Exactly. It was a blow to the ego to lose the points (I was looking forward to changing my signature back to "MacRumors - #1 Mac folding team"), but it's only supposed to be a friendly competition. (All I could think of when I saw the hit was "Dude, where's my team's folding points?")

In the end, it's the sum of everyone's contributions that counts (I know I mean it when I say it, but, damn, it was fun seeing 60k points a day up there!).

[bousozoku]

Exactly. It was a blow to the ego to lose the points (I was looking forward to changing my signature back to "MacRumors - #1 Mac folding team"), but it's only supposed to be a friendly competition. (All I could think of when I saw the hit was "Dude, where's my team's folding points?")

In the end, it's the sum of everyone's contributions that counts (I know I mean it when I say it, but, damn, it was fun seeing 60k points a day up there!).

Well, right now we need everyone. :)

[Mord]

never fear my dual g4 cube folding machine is here

and my blue&white

and my ibook

and my other ibook

and my other cube

hmm if i could only get folding@home working on my dreamcast and set up a huge link for a dreamcast supercomputer it's possible to run netbsd on a dreamcast so I wander hmmm

(I have 5 dreamcasts)

[benpatient]

i think you'll find the raw processing power of your 5 dreamcasts is approximately equal to that of a first generation ibook.

:)

but since you're obviously no stranger to doing things "just because i can," that may not be the slightest deterrent for you.

bousozoku, if they had reset all of our individual stats to zero, then i would have removed my 5 processors from their project, and i don't doubt that a lot of other macrumors people would have done the same. i had nothing to do with what happened, and yes, they could have taken away the points from the entire team...but by that logic, they could have simply reset the points counter across the board...because who's to say that someone didn't pull a copy of the trojan'ed .msi file, replace jethroted with their user name, turn the processor utilization from "real time" to "normal" or "low" and send it out to the filesharing networks in a copy of something a little less popular?

if i can think it up that easily, someone can do it (like the person who acquired and modified jethroted's original script and started all this trouble in the first place.)

[bousozoku]

...
bousozoku, if they had reset all of our individual stats to zero, then i would have removed my 5 processors from their project, and i don't doubt that a lot of other macrumors people would have done the same. i had nothing to do with what happened, and yes, they could have taken away the points from the entire team...but by that logic, they could have simply reset the points counter across the board...because who's to say that someone didn't pull a copy of the trojan'ed .msi file, replace jethroted with their user name, turn the processor utilization from "real time" to "normal" or "low" and send it out to the filesharing networks in a copy of something a little less popular?

if i can think it up that easily, someone can do it (like the person who acquired and modified jethroted's original script and started all this trouble in the first place.)

I'm not sure why you would pull out, but then, I've been doing this for two years. I consider that, if just one person can be saved from severe memory loss, such as happens with Alzheimer's disease, however many machines I can use will work on the project. I know the struggle of memory loss because my dad has a severe problem with it. I know the problems it causes.

Many theories are available on what happened but it's done and it's time to move forward.

[Mord]

i think you'll find the raw processing power of your 5 dreamcasts is approximately equal to that of a first generation ibook.

:)

but since you're obviously no stranger to doing things "just because i can," that may not be the slightest deterrent for you.

5 200MHz hitachi RISC prosessors are quite quick but dreamcasts are noisy


+ you could say "mac rumours folding powered by over 5,000 macs a few pc's and five dreamcasts"

[cjc343]

5 200MHz hitachi RISC prosessors are quite quick but dreamcasts are noisy


+ you could say "mac rumours folding powered by over 5,000 macs a few pc's and five dreamcasts"

:D that would be great!!!

How about F@H for cellular phones?

Or for xbox, PS2, PSX, PSP, GCN, GBA, PS1, N64, calculators, etc?

I would install it on a few of those....

[wdlove]

I'll join macrumors in building your points. I will set 2 pc laptops 1 powerbook 1 g5 powermac and 1 pc to work.

Welcome to the MacRumors team boomtopper. Your contribution sounds awesome. Thank you and happy folding. ;)

[Nanuq]

:D that would be great!!!

How about F@H for cellular phones?

Or for xbox, PS2, PSX, PSP, GCN, GBA, PS1, N64, calculators, etc?

I would install it on a few of those....

You can run linux and folding on an xbox, I will be attempting this feat soon..

[MacBandit]

You can run linux and folding on an xbox, I will be attempting this feat soon..

You could do the same for the PS2 since Sony sells a Linux kit for it.

[Cprossu]

You could do the same for the PS2 since Sony sells a Linux kit for it.

neg.


remember the cores were only programed for powerpc procs and x86 procs. the playstation2 is not a x86, so unless it can emulate (abit v. v. slowley) it would not fold...


lhttp://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?t=8172

[MacBandit]

neg.


remember the cores were only programed for powerpc procs and x86 procs. the playstation2 is not a x86, so unless it can emulate (abit v. v. slowley) it would not fold...

That's probably true. I seem to remember that it had some PPC code but that could be some other Sony processor I was reading about.

[keysersoze]

You can run linux and folding on an xbox, I will be attempting this feat soon..

Hey Nanuq--

Any luck with your attempts at running folding on an xbox? I'd love to hear a follow-up on this... as would others I think!
:)

[Nanuq]

I haven't had the time to do it yet, but I've done the research on it, and it is possible to do. When I get some free time to get the parts I need to do it and to install Linux and get the Xbox on my wireless network, I will do it. I will try to keep you informed. Be on the lookout for a new post....