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Tom25
Jul 12, 2009, 08:50 AM
I dont know allot about converting movie files etc etc... But i would really appriciate some help and guidence =D. I just normaly use Handbrake to cvonvert an AVI file into an MP4 so then i can play it on the Apple TV, But ive noticed theirs allot of MKV. files around now and allot of talk about them.

So is it possible to convert a MKV to Apple TV?



pilotError
Jul 12, 2009, 09:13 AM
MKVTools (http://www.emmgunn.com/mokgvm2dvd/mokgvmdownload.html)

Tom25
Jul 12, 2009, 11:20 AM
Cheers mate, do you know of a crack or keygen for this?

bohbot16
Jul 12, 2009, 11:24 AM
Handbrake will work with mkv files as input.

isaaclimdc
Jul 12, 2009, 11:29 AM
Cheers mate, do you know of a crack or keygen for this?

Tsktsk. Let's not discuss piracy of software here. There are many freeware tools that get the job done decently if you're not willing to pay. These developers work hard to get great paid apps out there, so it's good to applaud the effort by paying for the app.

Tom25
Jul 12, 2009, 11:49 AM
Tsktsk. Let's not discuss piracy of software here. There are many freeware tools that get the job done decently if you're not willing to pay. These developers work hard to get great paid apps out there, so it's good to applaud the effort by paying for the app.

*Applaued

I was kind of hopeing someone would say a freeware tool, anyway when i input an mkv file into handbrake it does'nt work

isaaclimdc
Jul 12, 2009, 11:53 AM
Wait a second... AppleTV doesn't support mkv files? I thought it did.

Tom25
Jul 12, 2009, 12:09 PM
I dont think it does dude

delroy666
Jul 12, 2009, 03:39 PM
I use VisualHub to convert .mkv files. Even with the Perian codecs installed, the AppleTV chokes on HD .mkv's. VisualHub is no longer being developed, but I think there's an open source version available now under a different name.

Zonyc
Jul 13, 2009, 01:52 AM
*Applaued

I was kind of hopeing someone would say a freeware tool, anyway when i input an mkv file into handbrake it does'nt work

Do you have the latest version of handbrake? I use it exclusively to convert (apple tv preset + some advanced settings (not necessary)) mkvs into m4v or mp4 files which play flawless only the Apple TV. It should be as simple as converting avi to mp4.

Billy Boo Bob
Jul 13, 2009, 03:00 AM
Do you have the latest version of handbrake? I use it exclusively to convert (apple tv preset + some advanced settings (not necessary)) mkvs into m4v or mp4 files which play flawless only the Apple TV. It should be as simple as converting avi to mp4.

Right. Make sure you have at least 0.9.3... Don't know if it's gone any higher than that.

pilotError
Jul 13, 2009, 09:32 AM
MKVTools is free.

If you decide you like it, it would be nice to send him a couple of bucks though.

Tom25
Jul 14, 2009, 04:51 AM
Do you have the latest version of handbrake? I use it exclusively to convert (apple tv preset + some advanced settings (not necessary)) mkvs into m4v or mp4 files which play flawless only the Apple TV. It should be as simple as converting avi to mp4.

I see, yeah i might not have the latest version thanks for that i will check now =D

Tom25
Jul 14, 2009, 05:06 AM
Do you have the latest version of handbrake? I use it exclusively to convert (apple tv preset + some advanced settings (not necessary)) mkvs into m4v or mp4 files which play flawless only the Apple TV. It should be as simple as converting avi to mp4.

Just tryed it, and and it dont work heres a screen shot of what i did and its the same way i convert avi's to m4v and mp4. When i go to convert an mkv the tray appears with a few errors and then disapears, when normally the tray would appear and the percentage would start

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/5219/handbrakess.jpg

TonD
Jul 14, 2009, 05:45 AM
Am I the only one wondering what kind of streams are INSIDE that mkv container? As you might or might not know, MKV is just a container like avi is. Inside could be virtually anything, hence saying "I have an MKV file" doesn't mean so much.

It could be some weird uncommon codec used for the video or audio stream(s) inside that MKV, failing handbrake and its underlying tools to understand what the input file means.

Can you try MKVToolnix to see what kind of streams are inside the container?

Tom25
Jul 14, 2009, 06:16 AM
Am I the only one wondering what kind of streams are INSIDE that mkv container? As you might or might not know, MKV is just a container like avi is. Inside could be virtually anything, hence saying "I have an MKV file" doesn't mean so much.

It could be some weird uncommon codec used for the video or audio stream(s) inside that MKV, failing handbrake and its underlying tools to understand what the input file means.

Can you try MKVToolnix to see what kind of streams are inside the container?

I don't want to seem rude mate but you kind of spoke a different language to me their :p
But i can tell you that all the MKV files i have i got from well known forum sites and their all movies i think its HD or copyied from the Blu ray disc im not to sure, but all i want to know is how to get it onto the apple tv.
What will MKVToolnix do?

TonD
Jul 14, 2009, 08:52 AM
Oh don't worry, you are not being rude at all. Let me try to explain in a dummy (not meant rude, either) way.

The .mkv extension is used to indicate that the file was packed using the Matroska container. The container can be seen as a means of holding content, it can hold different kinds of content. Think of a bottle holding Guiness or Milk. The bottle is still the same, the content is not. My point is, possibly there is some kind of drink in that bottle that HandBrake does not like ;-)

What is Matroska/MKV? http://www.matroska.org/node/46

MKVToolnix is a set of tools for inspecting etc MKV files. You could use it to see what kind of video (drink) is inside the container (bottle).

But I can imagine you don't even want to know ;) In that case, can you try some other download from that well-known website and report if that fails, too?

Surely HandBrake can handle the MKV container and the most common codecs (the way of compression the images) like Divx, Xvid, H.264.

Disclaimer: I don't pretend the above post is 100% flawless, but I tried to explain it in more simple ways :)

Tom25
Jul 14, 2009, 10:29 AM
Oh don't worry, you are not being rude at all. Let me try to explain in a dummy (not meant rude, either) way.

The .mkv extension is used to indicate that the file was packed using the Matroska container. The container can be seen as a means of holding content, it can hold different kinds of content. Think of a bottle holding Guiness or Milk. The bottle is still the same, the content is not. My point is, possibly there is some kind of drink in that bottle that HandBrake does not like ;-)

What is Matroska/MKV? http://www.matroska.org/node/46

MKVToolnix is a set of tools for inspecting etc MKV files. You could use it to see what kind of video (drink) is inside the container (bottle).

But I can imagine you don't even want to know ;) In that case, can you try some other download from that well-known website and report if that fails, too?

Surely HandBrake can handle the MKV container and the most common codecs (the way of compression the images) like Divx, Xvid, H.264.

Disclaimer: I don't pretend the above post is 100% flawless, but I tried to explain it in more simple ways :)

No man that was A* way of expaining it, i like the way you added the beer effect aswell ;) prehaps not guiness though lol...

Anyway yeah i have serveral MKV files on my PC all which dont seem to want to convert.
Should an MKV file look like this, cause to me it looks like my pc has'nt got a clue of what it is and neither does handbrake, and all the MKV files look like this.
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/5198/fileinfo.jpg
I would of thought if you tryed opening it up it would open up in something like Windows media player because its a video file right? Also you would need the right codec for it to play or something :p

You got an instant mesaging address i could reach you on TonD?

TonD
Jul 14, 2009, 11:03 AM
The fact that Windows does not know what kind of file it is, is probably not the problem you are trying to solve. If you want to solve it, however, try following this link, it explains a way of making Windows open (and succesfully play) MKV files in Windows Media Player: http://a8t8.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2518DD508BB713E8!220.entry I would, however, advise against it as it is too much hassle for the result. Just grab yourself a copy of VLC :D

I have to wrap up some things at work now, I will try to come up with a more useful post later :)

P.s. I don't like Guiness either, let's swap it for our national pride 'n joy: Heineken..

uaaerospace
Jul 14, 2009, 01:19 PM
Handbrake will read some MKVs; others it will not. From what I can tell, Handbrake's ability to read MKVs is determined by the type of elementary streams that make up the MKV. Remember, MKV is simply a container format like MOV. They can contain many different types of video/audio streams.

Zonyc
Jul 14, 2009, 02:47 PM
Just tryed it, and and it dont work heres a screen shot of what i did and its the same way i convert avi's to m4v and mp4. When i go to convert an mkv the tray appears with a few errors and then disapears, when normally the tray would appear and the percentage would start

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/5219/handbrakess.jpg

Sounds like a strange problem. You should copy the log and head over to the handbrake forums and post it up. The experts there can help you figure it out.

dynaflash
Jul 14, 2009, 03:51 PM
... or try the hb dev snapshot and see if you fare any better ...

http://handbrake.fr/?article=snapshot

pilotError
Jul 14, 2009, 07:14 PM
Just download and give the MKV Tools a try. It's been the only reliable tool that I've had to handle MKV's.

bergmef
Jul 17, 2009, 02:54 PM
Just download and give the MKV Tools a try. It's been the only reliable tool that I've had to handle MKV's.

Do you use the apple tv preset? I'm having a heck of a problem with an mkv file that has h.264 inside. After a few handbrake crashes, I'm going to try mkvtools.

Do you know if it will put the mp4 or m4v extension on the file? Do the play after the conversion or do you have to do anything else?

Thanks,
me

mcdermd
Jul 17, 2009, 04:22 PM
Why not install Perian and use Quicktime Pro? Open the mkv in QT then you can export as an mp4 or mov and AppleTV should be happy with it. Just select "passthrough" for the h.264 video in the export settings. No lengthy reconversion needed.

If it's ogg video, you'll need to wait a while for Handbrake to convert it.

chenks
Jul 29, 2009, 12:20 PM
i have a MKV file with DD5.1 audio... and went to run it thru handbrake to convert to AppleTV (using the appletv preset).

it said it would take 6 hours to convert (it's a 1h49min file). converting on a MBP intel dualcore (movies from dvd take usually the actual length of the movie to convert).

any ideas why it would take so long?

dynaflash
Jul 29, 2009, 01:44 PM
well, you don't say much about the source other than its an .mkv. But, presuming its 720p or 1080p that is why. dvd is only 480p. HB has to apply all of its algorithms against every frame of the source, the higher res the source is, the longer that takes.

chenks
Jul 29, 2009, 01:46 PM
Sorry yes 720p.

6-7 hours is a bit excessive though? Visualhub estimated around 2.5 hours on appletv preset.

dynaflash
Jul 29, 2009, 01:58 PM
Sorry yes 720p.

6-7 hours is a bit excessive though? Visualhub estimated around 2.5 hours on appletv preset.

Depends, VH and HB have very different presets for atv. HB's is longer to encode but better quality. Are you using any filters like decomb or deinterlace ? The type of source footage will also make a difference with constant quality encoding.