"Palin to stump for conservative Democrats"

[Macky-Mac]

Sarah stumping for Democrats?? Now that would be interesting....from the Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/12/palin-stump-conservative-democrats/?feat=home_cube_position1&)


ANCHORAGE, Alaska | Brushing aside the criticisms of pundits and politicos, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said she plans to jump immediately back into the national political fray — stumping for conservative issues and even Democrats — after she prematurely vacates her elected post at month's end.

The former Republican vice-presidential nominee and heroine to much of the GOP's base said in an interview she views the electorate as embattled and fatigued by nonstop partisanship, and she is eager to campaign for Republicans, independents and even Democrats who share her values on limited government, strong defense and "energy independence."

"I will go around the country on behalf of candidates who believe in the right things, regardless of their party label or affiliation," she said over lunch in her downtown office, 40 miles from her now-famous hometown of Wasilla — population 7,000 — where she began her political career.

"People are so tired of the partisan stuff — even my own son is not a Republican," said Mrs. Palin, who stunned the political world earlier this month with her decision to step down as governor July 26 with 18 months left in her term.....

[Axl Rose]

God she is such an idiot, nuff said.

[edesignuk]

I have to know...is she actually taken by anyone in the US seriously?

[Axl Rose]

I have to know...is she actually taken by anyone in the US seriously?

No, she isnt taken seriously by me, and i hope not anyone else.:eek:

[opinioncircle]

I have to know...is she actually taken by anyone in the US seriously?

Of course yes, Fox News has still great ratings...

[NT1440]

So campaigning for GOP ideals isn't partisan as long as you say its not? :rolleyes:

I like how she says she will help those who believe in the "right" things. I guess jesusland has yet another crusader.

[Unspoken Demise]

I have to know...is she actually taken by anyone in the US seriously?

No, not at all. She was the reason I didn't vote for McCain. He was actually a great opponent for Obama until that move. I think it showed desperation.

[NT1440]

No, not at all. She was the reason I didn't vote for McCain. He was actually a great opponent for Obama until that move. I think it showed desperation.

I think it showed just how stupid McCain and his handlers thought the American people were (and proved it in many ways). It was obvious from the second she opened her mouth in interviews that not only was she not qualified, she had no idea what the hell is going on in the world. I guess thats a plus for the GOP however, seeing the massive cheers that guy got from saying " I'm NOT a citizen of the world".

Its a sad day when millions support ignorance, mark another one off the calender I suppose.

[mobilehaathi]

It's a trap!

[Unspoken Demise]

I think it showed just how stupid McCain and his handlers thought the American people were (and proved it in many ways). It was obvious from the second she opened her mouth in interviews that not only was she not qualified, she had no idea what the hell is going on in the world. I guess thats a plus for the GOP however, seeing the massive cheers that guy got from saying " I'm NOT a citizen of the world".

Its a sad day when millions support ignorance, mark another one off the calender I suppose.

I think it was an ill-concieved attempt to sway voters that were going to vote Hillary for being a woman, who were then going to vote for Obama because Hillary was out, and going "Hey, we've got a wiminz too!"

Now (then) we've got a real historical election on our hands.
Vote McCain: We've got a wiminz.
Vote Obama: He's black.

Either way, history is made. The McCain camp wasnt about to lose out on that oppurtunity.

[yellow]

I have to know...is she actually taken by anyone in the US seriously?

I still see bumper stickers for McCain/Palin & occasionally, just Palin.
I don't get it, but something are bonkers for her.

[leekohler]

I still see bumper stickers for McCain/Palin & occasionally, just Palin.
I don't get it, but something are bonkers for her.

The simple-minded love her. And there are plenty of stupid people in the US. Fortunately, not enough to elect here to the WH.

[Sky Blue]

I have to know...is she actually taken by anyone in the US seriously?

Unfortunately, yes, mostly just the Jesus Freaks. Fortunately, it's not enough for her to do anything serious.

[yellow]

The simple-minded love her. And there are plenty of stupid people in the US. Fortunately, not enough to elect here to the WH.

I didn't want to make that statement. I'm trying to be more open-minded. I'm a bit of an odd leftist and I'm very close-minded about the right. Much like how the right typically is about the left, so that makes me no better than them. Hence, attempting to be more open to other people's opinions.

So far, I can only go as far as not actually saying "You're clearly stupid and don't understand what propaganda does to you, do you?".
But I still think it in my mind-grapes*.











*: 30 Rock Ref, for those curious.

[leekohler]

I didn't want to make that statement. I'm trying to be more open-minded. I'm a bit of an odd leftist and I'm very close-minded about the right. Much like how the right typically is about the left, so that makes me no better than them. Hence, attempting to be more open to other people's opinions.

Trying to be open-minded about someone like Palin is not the kind of open-minded anyone needs to be. This woman is a cancer on the political scene. That someone who is so uninformed has held political office illustrates just how low our country has sunk.

[Badandy]

Trying to be open-minded about someone like Palin is not the kind of open-minded anyone needs to be. This woman is a cancer on the political scene. That someone who is so uninformed has held political office illustrates just how low our country has sunk.

To be fair, how many competent politicians (if they even exist) are actually in Alaska?

[leekohler]

To be fair, how many competent politicians (if they even exist) are actually in Alaska?

I don't know. But if she's the best they can do, Alaska has serious problems.

[yellow]

Trying to be open-minded about someone like Palin is not the kind of open-minded anyone needs to be.

I disagree. This is exactly the type of open-mindedness that American needs. If people aren't able to calmly listen to other people's opinions and then calmly consider and offer alternative views, then all is lost. There can be no democracy without rational thought and debate.

[Unspoken Demise]

I disagree. This is exactly the type of open-mindedness that American needs. If people aren't able to calmly listen to other people's opinions and then calmly consider and offer alternative views, then all is lost. There can be no democracy without rational thought and debate.

I agree with this whole-mindedly, but my heart agrees with Lee too. There needs to be structured debate to further politics and democracy.

I just wish the opponent to democratic views wasn't so ill-informed (in this case. I know not all repubs. are ill-informed.)

[PlaceofDis]

I disagree. This is exactly the type of open-mindedness that American needs. If people aren't able to calmly listen to other people's opinions and then calmly consider and offer alternative views, then all is lost. There can be no democracy without rational thought and debate.

agreed, but we need to hold our politicians to higher standards and encourage the debate and thought process rather than mindless rhetoric that we get on both sides.

[obeygiant]

I didn't want to make that statement. I'm trying to be more open-minded. I'm a bit of an odd leftist and I'm very close-minded about the right. Much like how the right typically is about the left, so that makes me no better than them. Hence, attempting to be more open to other people's opinions.


Your open-mindedness disgusts me. :D

[rdowns]

When she stumps for a Dem candidate, I'll donate $100 to an abstinence only group.

[leekohler]

agreed, but we need to hold our politicians to higher standards and encourage the debate and thought process rather than mindless rhetoric that we get on both sides.

Thank you. I see nothing wrong with being ashamed about someone like Palin. She's an absolute disgrace- a bad joke. All Americans should be embarrassed that we have let politics sink to her level.

[Thomas Veil]

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."

That's the problem with being open-minded with people like Palin. There are Republicans that live in the real world with the rest of us and are open to compromise on just about anything, but Palin isn't one of them.

She's a neo-con, just like Bush and Cheney and Rove and that whole gang. And neo-cons do have their own facts. They live in a different reality than we do. Theirs is a world in which man is too puny to cause global warming, where gutting the middle class causes prosperity, and where the rules don't apply to you as long as you're on the side of God.

And on top of all of that, everything they do, no matter how corrupt, is somehow based on the Bible, and since that is God's word, it's not to be questioned.

How do you reach rapprochement with someone like that?

[eawmp1]

Stump or schtupp? :rolleyes:

[thegoldenmackid]

To be fair, how many competent politicians (if they even exist) are actually in Alaska?

Well clearly the person that is replacing her is just about as bad.

I really liked Ted Stevens. The internet is a series of tubes. It was sad watching him say goodbye in the Senate and then to find out that his trial was flooded with misconduct, funny since that's what he was charged with.

[gilkisson]

Stump or schtupp? :rolleyes:

No, that was "my" governor...:mad:

[eawmp1]

No, that was "my" governor...:mad:

LOL - was he trying to woo the elusive Argentinian voting block? :D

[chstr]

I have to know...is she actually taken by anyone in the US seriously?

unfortunately yes she actually is. the ones who are just as idiotic as her

[gilkisson]

LOL - was he trying to woo the elusive Argentinian voting block? :D

Might be. He no longer cares about our vote or opinions. I think he's been hitting the bottle of medicinal creek liquor a bit too much.

There's a ticket for you: Palin/Sanford 2012!

[Rt&Dzine]

I have to know...is she actually taken by anyone in the US seriously?

You betcha!

She definitely has a following. Whether it could translate to a national victory is hard to imagine. But now it appears she's trying to broaden her appeal and reach out to democrats. I'm sure she has some good spin doctors to help.

[Thomas Veil]

I have to know...is she actually taken by anyone in the US seriously?You betcha! She definitely has a following.How embarrassing. :o

[LizKat]

Yeah wait, there's more. Politico sez she has raised more than $730k in 2009 for her political action committee. More than 700 of the donations were for more than $200 apiece...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/24866.html


Now that is embarrassing :o :o :o :o :o :o

[edesignuk]

^ and I thought we [UK] had problems :p








...no wait, we still do :( :o They're just not Palin shaped, which is a bit of a pity really ;) :D :eek:

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[Rt&Dzine]

...no wait, we still do :( :o They're just not Palin shaped, which is a bit of a pity really ;) :D :eek:

Unfortunately it is her main asset (along with her folksiness). But in a few years when she gets into her 50s it won't help her so much.

[LizKat]

Like when she bails out of the Oval Office after two years of her first term?

God I hope we are not stupid enough to put this woman on a ticket for public office again. I never thought Bush would be re-elected in 2004, not in a million years. So I don't trust my intuitions about our electorate any more. It's my instinct to dismiss Palin, but then she pops up in an op-ed on cap and trade --not even out of her job yet-- and I have to wonder if the neocons really think they can do some kind of rain-in-Spain makeover on her and stand her up as the GOP candidate in 2012.

[Zombie Acorn]

Didn't like Mccain or Palin. I really hope this isn't who the republicans are going to back coming into the next election, its a lose/lose.

[DoNoHarm]

I have to know...is she actually taken by anyone in the US seriously?

the right wing of the republican party apparently does.....

the media keeps on showing her face because she is such an embarrassment to the point of being a spectacle.

I think she realized that she doesen't have what it takes to become president. she's using her spectacle star power to help people (like John McCain) who need to shore up their right flanks.

She will be able to make more money and impact more races by campaigning for people and speaking around the country. If she were to stay in Alaska and run later on, she'll just get labeled as a lightweight like last time. But if she campaigns for lots of people, she'll be able to count on their endorsement come time to run for office.

As a Democrat, I welcome her presence at the helm of the Republican party. Can you imagine how badly the Democrats would loose if a competent leader like Colon Powell would step in?

[DELLsFan]

the right wing of the republican party apparently does.....

the media keeps on showing her face because she is such an embarrassment to the point of being a spectacle.

I think she realized that she doesen't have what it takes to become president. she's using her spectacle star power to help people (like John McCain) who need to shore up their right flanks.

She will be able to make more money and impact more races by campaigning for people and speaking around the country. If she were to stay in Alaska and run later on, she'll just get labeled as a lightweight like last time. But if she campaigns for lots of people, she'll be able to count on their endorsement come time to run for office.

As a Democrat, I welcome her presence at the helm of the Republican party. Can you imagine how badly the Democrats would loose if a competent leader like Colon Powell would step in?

Oh please ... the Colon is no conservative - so I think you're safe. I think you're mistaking betrayal for competence, though. He's only a good Republican because he supported Obama and supports Obama's agenda. Hmmm. I guess that makes Obama a good Republican too, right? :cool:

Palin should do quite well for the Republican party, conservatives, and conservative Democrats - since just about every liberal hates her, her family, and values. More power to her. :)

[Thomas Veil]

...just about every liberal hates her, her family, and values. More power to her. :)I think I speak for quite a few, probably even a majority of liberals, when I say I don't hate her. I just think she's utterly incompetent to hold office. I'll mock the living $%#& out of her, but I don't hate her. Nor do I have any reason to hate her family, of all people.

What are her values, anyway? Exaggerating any "relationship" between Obama and Bill Ayers? Choosing oil drilling in protected areas over new energy sources? Turning down stimulus money in a state that needs it? Blaming the media for how foolish she sounds on TV?

[opinioncircle]

I think I speak for quite a few, probably even a majority of liberals, when I say I don't hate her. I just think she's utterly incompetent to hold office. I'll mock the living $%#& out of her, but I don't hate her. Nor do I have any reason to hate her family, of all people.

What are her values, anyway? Exaggerating any "relationship" between Obama and Bill Ayers? Choosing oil drilling in protected areas over new energy sources? Turning down stimulus money in a state that needs it? Blaming the media for how foolish she sounds on TV?

Well at least you speak for me :D

Hate can't be put in a political reasoning (IMHO), it's just that I feel she's just not qualified and doesn't bring enough to the table to be considered legit.

[solvs]

This is exactly the type of open-mindedness that American needs. If people aren't able to calmly listen to other people's opinions and then calmly consider and offer alternative views, then all is lost. There can be no democracy without rational thought and debate.
Well, I agree with your sentiment, but your last sentence says it all. I used to be fairly moderate, but the right has gone so much further to the right into crazy town, and the left moved to... somewhere else, so suddenly I'm in the left on a lot of issue apparently. Even the ones that are overwhelmingly agreed upon by a vast majority of Americans (especially before the talking heads take over, changing the dialogue, while the media and Dems let them), which is somehow not as mainstream as the tiny, what is it now, 20% who identify themselves as GOP. Even the few things I'm still more liberal on, like gay rights, don't seem like such issues to people of my generation. With torture, I simply look at the legality, effectiveness, and moral or ethic quandaries, and find myself thinking it's not what I believe, but the sum of the aforementioned. I support gun rights, business rights, and want a balanced budget, like most Americans, but apparently those aren't good enough.

Even though the reality of our current situations have changed (economy, healthcare, terrorism, environment) or even that we're just becoming more aware of it, and most of us know it, the tiny minority gets to call the rest of us things like not American enough. Far-left, ultra-liberal, unpatriotic, terrorist-loving, troop-hating, socialist, communist, fascist, racist, whateverist. New things are needed that weren't in the same aspect as before. How do you rationally debate with someone who might as well be arguing the Earth is flat? People who even when the Dems piss off their own, bending over backwards to please them, still get called names and after demanding additions to water down already watered down bills, still won't vote for them, even though they have nothing else, and in some cases, even caused, or at the very least exacerbated, these very same things the Dems are so wildly trying to fix just for the right to tell them to stop, knowing they won't, but that they might fail, and that they have nothing else.

And how do you argue with people who, like Palin, will meander on about nothing, oblivious to the reality of the situations, oblivious to fact and reason, as they do in this very forum, obfuscate and mislead and misinform, ignorant of their own obvious ignorance. This is how I guess. Though as usual, I fear it is simply preaching to the choir or falling on deaf ears. Hoping desperately some of them will wake up, as they wonder why we can't simply see things through their partisan colored glasses, while they call us the ignorant partisans. All very frustrating, part of why I took a leave of absence for so long.

Oh please ... the Colon is no conservative - so I think you're safe. I think you're mistaking betrayal for competence, though. He's only a good Republican because he supported Obama and supports Obama's agenda. Hmmm. I guess that makes Obama a good Republican too, right?
Powell hasn't changed, and is still a conservative. Maybe it is you and your party who have changed. Or maybe you're simply further to the right, and exactly who the GOP has decided to cater to that is losing them elections. Kinda dumb if you ask me, they should already have you, why cater to you?

While actually, even though you don't see it, yes, Obama and the Dems are also trying to cater to you for some reason, even though no matter what they say or do, you will never support them either. They gave you your middle class tax cuts. They tried to bring you in to the discussions on the economy, and healthcare. Adding some of what you want added. But it's still not enough. Still far left to you. Of course, for some of you, you're so far to the right, again, everything must seem far left to you.

Palin should do quite well for the Republican party, conservatives, and conservative Democrats - since just about every liberal hates her, her family, and values. More power to her.
I doubt it. Her polling is very low except among the faithful you already have. If anything, the only thing she'll do to help the Dems is when she campaigns for those against them. Which is why so many are saying thanks, but no thanks. Those colloquialisms and platitudes may work on some people, but in times like these, someone who doesn't seem to know what they're talking about, like, ever isn't going to be very popular. Bush at least had terrorism, which still worked for awhile. Especially against a weak candidate like Kerry, who he still barely beat.

You may think it's only those "far left liberals" who "hater her" for her "family values" or whatever the new line of the day is, keep it up with the persecution complex about how the evil liberal media is out to "getcha", and keep trotting her out to make those awful partisan and/or nonsensical speeches and columns filled with inaccuracies, just because she pisses off those liberals, and we'll see how far that gets you.