Notes from D Conference

[MacRumors]

Steve Jobs spoke today at The Wall Street Journal's D: All Things Digital (http://d.wsj.com/) conference today.

Beyond the Airport Express (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/06/20040607133117.shtml) already announced, a few other releases were revealed:

- New iTunes (4.6) later today, providing support for the Airport Express
- Security Patch for Mac OS X this week
- iTunes Europe appears to be confirmed for June 15th

More details as they become available.

Meanwhile, more independent reports indicate that PowerMacs should be released (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/06/20040607135312.shtml) tomorrow.

[yoman]

Wow this is shaping up to be a busy week. Its only monday too.

[Veldek]

Finally! New Power Macs! But I guess this means no 3 GHz... :(

[zach]

Yeah, sure is.. Especially if new products are released tommorow.

[cschilderink]

Hopefully they will offer support for internet through the power outlet. I have seen this internet service offered and it would be cool if apple could support it. Just plug it in and boom ur on the internet.

[Laslo Panaflex]

Sounds exciting, I can't wait.

[windowsblowsass]

quivk any random digital related meetings at all tommorow or this week this shouldmdefinetely tell us that apple wont just announce things at wwdc damn steves a tricky one

[Trekkie]

Finally! New Power Macs! But I guess this means no 3 GHz... :(

Why on earth do you say that? Do they have to announce 3.0GHz at WWDC? Why not now?

[Belly-laughs]

I just realised I´m dribbling all over my desk and keyb

[doutee]

Airport Express $119.00 With Student Discount.

[gothamac]

Definitely tomorrow. Shipping on Apple store shows 7-10 days. Why would they do this and wait until WWDC to release the new line. It looks like all shipments are on hold until the new ones come out.

And with todays Airport, and tomorrows Powermacs, there must be a lot of products waiting for WWDC.

[windowsblowsass]

question why didnt any of us relise that sj was talking at a conference :eek:
\what were we thinking

i wonder if it was the "one more thing" after his sppech

[snahabed]

Definitely tomorrow. Shipping on Apple store shows 7-10 days. Why would they do this and wait until WWDC to release the new line. It looks like all shipments are on hold until the new ones come out.

And with todays Airport, and tomorrows Powermacs, there must be a lot of products waiting for WWDC.

Or it will just be Tiger-centric.

[MacsRgr8]

Wow... finally the new PowerMacs.

It still is possible that they could reach 3 GHz, but probably not shipping until "the end of the summer".
Steve could be showing off this 3 GHz anyway, while The Big Announcement could be the iMac G5.
IMHO an iMac G5 is more of a "bang" than an updated G5 (even running at 3 GHz...)

[Wonder Boy]

3ghz or bust

[windowsblowsass]

we need a 24 hour watch on apple .com comeon leaks :D

[russed]

no one saw this happening, what a day this is turning out to be. i cant wait for itunes uk, the new airport thing looks cool and will bring wireless to the masses and new g5's? what a week this will be!

[Zaty]

It's going to be a great week! And next week won't be bad either, iTMS Europe finally opens next Tuesday! What about WWDC, will it be soley on Tiger or will Steve Jobs annouce new iMacs G5 as well?

[windowsblowsass]

It's going to be a great week! And next week won't be bad either, iTMS Europe finally opens next Tuesday! What about WWDC, will it be soley on Tiger or will Steve Jobs annouce new iMacs G5 as well?
i think apple is going to BLOW US AWAY looks like theres going to be some crazy stuff

[xy14]

Apple is releasing iTunes 4.6 today, along with the AirPort Express. Ok. Now tomorrow, Apple will show off its new PowerMac G5s. At WWDC, Apple will show Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, the 60 GB iPod, and its new iMac G5

[MacsRgr8]

We can call this month "Crazy June" :)

[Mord]

Apple is releasing iTunes 4.6 today, along with the AirPort Express. Ok. Now tomorrow, Apple will show off its new PowerMac G5s. At WWDC, Apple will show Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, the 60 GB iPod, and its new iMac G5

nah the toshiba drives only go into production in august it wont arrive till then

[boy]

omg omg omg!! :D

im so excited! was not expecting anything like this.

[xy14]

nah the toshiba drives only go into production in august it wont arrive till then

OK then... Apple will update its lineup to 20GB, 30GB, and 40GB.
And to be more competetive, all iPods will be $100 cheaper, including the iPod Mini.

iPod Mini (4GB): $149
iPod (20GB): $199
iPod (30GB): $299
iPod (40GB): $399
Mac OS 10.4: Priceless. Well actually probably $129

[triton]

Why on earth do you say that? Do they have to announce 3.0GHz at WWDC? Why not now?

I agree! Steve Jobs promised us 3GHZ by the end of summer ;)

[klaus]

Finally! New Power Macs! But I guess this means no 3 GHz... :(

I'm busy looking for a clue in this post to conclude the same as you do.. "that means no 3 GHz"..

still looking though.. :confused:

[gothamac]

AAPL is at a 52 week high today. The street knows something. They'll sell off tomorrow after the announcement.

[Zaty]

We can call this month "Crazy June" :)

Excatly right and all this while Euro 2004 is on, life can be so sweet!

[shecky]

i am starting to wonder if instead of having a ton of stuff announced at a Stevenote, Apple is going to continue the trend and announce a ton of stuff just BEFORE a Stevenote so that Steve can then remind everyone how amazing apple is by a "look what we have done in the past XX time" kind of thing. I am sure there will still be some major stuff at WWDC but the days of everything being announced at a keynotes are long gone, whihc is fine with me

having said that weeks like this are reasons i love being a mac user - excitement! anticipation! erm....karma!

[nmk]

I have a feeling that if Apple is releasing the PM's tomorrow, they will not reach the 3Ghz mark. Think about it, WWDC is a big event and Steve doesn't want something to spoil the show. Annoncing 2.4 or 2.6 Ghz G5's would spoil the atmosphere there. I really belive that he would have waited till WWDC to show off the new machines if they had hit the 3Ghz mark. This way the release can be less dramatic, and he can avoid any possible embarassment at the big event. After all, it isn't every day that Steve doesn't live up to a promise that he's made openly to the entire Mac community. WWDC will likely center around Tiger, which sort of makes sense as thats more relevant to developers. Perhaps there will be a new iMac of some sort.

[Lancetx]

I have a feeling that if Apple is releasing the PM's tomorrow, they will not reach the 3Ghz mark. Think about it, WWDC is a big event and Steve doesn't want something to spoil the show. Annoncing 2.4 or 2.6 Ghz G5's would spoil the atmosphere there. I really belive that he would have waited till WWDC to show off the new machines if they had hit the 3Ghz mark. This way the release can be less dramatic, and he can avoid any possible embarassment at the big event. After all, it isn't every day that Steve doesn't live up to a promise that he's made openly to the entire Mac community. WWDC will likely center around Tiger, which sort of makes sense as thats more relevant to developers. Perhaps there will be a new iMac of some sort.

I agree, although he hasn't broken his promise yet anyway. Summer in the Northern Hemisphere doesn't technically end until September 22nd. ;)

[azdude]

3ghz or bust

Be ready to bust.

My confidence isn't as high as a lot of people here. :D

[DGFan]

OK then... Apple will update its lineup to 20GB, 30GB, and 40GB.
And to be more competetive, all iPods will be $100 cheaper, including the iPod Mini.

Doubtful. Only a fool would slash prices on a product that is selling well.

[five04]

anybody notice on apple.com whoever made the layout forgot to to set border=0 around the linked images of airport express? i'm sure they'll fix that soon but god the site looks ugly right now because of it. i'll be shocked if apple releases new powermacs tomorrow. i could understand new imacs since they're consumer level, but not waiting till wwdc to debut the new powermacs would be a bit odd. also, i won't update to itunes 4.6 until hymn (http://hymn-project.org/) supports it.

[iGav]

I thought it was interesting what Mr Jobs said, with regards to an iPod/iTunes in car solution.

The third place is in the car -- right now the solutions out there aren't very good but we are working with some folks on that

Now that does open up some possibilities... ;)

[Redboy]

Now all I need is a wireless remote to go through this thing to control iTunes from another floor entirely. Would be nice if it could control things like volume on the stereo too...

[i_wolf]

Personally I would be disappointed if they didn't make the 3GHz PowerMac soon. It was a promise that was publically made. Now I am aware of yield issues in early January but after all this time, I am sure they must have sorted the problems out. IBM is without doubt the most advanced cpu manufacturer around with the most advanced fabs. If Apple had made that promise with Moto I would have taken it with a grain of salt and would not be inclined to hold them to their promises. But this is IBM's baby and they don't make promises lightly. My guess we will see 3GHz. I also don't think we will see them tomorrow and if there is a PowerMac tomorrow it most certainly won't be 3GHz. A 3GHz machine would be hot talk for WWDC. Also the iMac is not considered a developer machine/developer line, so for a lot of attendee's at WWDC a G5 iMac would not be as significant as a PowerMac update. My guess is that tomorrow we will see 1.5GHz G4's in iMac's with 3GHz PowerMacs at WWDC. Then I would expect G5 iMac update at Mac Expo in Paris in Autumn.
Just my .02 though :D Here's hoping for 3GHz PowerMacs AND G5 iMacs :D

[iGav]

i'll be shocked if apple releases new powermacs tomorrow. i could understand new imacs since they're consumer level, but not waiting till wwdc to debut the new powermacs would be a bit odd.

We should consider that the PowerMacs are likely to be only updated machines, regardless of improved internals, and as such are they really worthy of a Keynote release?? ;)

A new iMac G5 (with possible new form factor) would be much more suited to a Keynote presentation. Remember Apple used to just update the old PowerMac G4's and stick em' on the Apple.com homepage. That's not to say that Apple won't be benchmarking the PowerMacs at WWDC though ;)

I just think that if we do see new PowerMacs tomorrow, then that clears the path for the iMac G5 to be launched at the WWDC. :)

[dizastor]

Yay for new Powermacs... now I just wish I wasn't poor.

[Sayer]

Apple pretty much shut down Sony's new music "server" Sonos (http://www.sonos.com/products/) that was also announced today.

Instead of $1200 you can spend 1/10th and get the same features, and then some (AirPort Express is just a smaller AirPort base station).

The interface is the well-established iTunes for music, seamless networking for the rest (on OS X). There is no very expensive battery-powered gewgaw to lose/drop/have stolen during a party and increasing coverage costs less than half as much as the Sony "solution."

I bet a lot of people in Japan were cursing Steve Jobs and shaking their fist in the air today.

[centauratlas]

Now just stream video from my ReplayTV/DVArchive library to the TV too...

[dopefiend]

Apple pretty much shut down Sony's new music "server" Sonos (http://www.sonos.com/products/) that was also announced today.

Thats a totally different product right there Sayer.

[jared_kipe]

Does anybody else think there is a way to send audio from your computer other than from iTunes? I would love to get rid of the cable that currently sends audio over to my stereo from my computer, but I need to be able to listen to movies and what have you as well. But this looks like a better day than I thought.

[centauratlas]

The key for Apple here is getting more people to use iTunes MS, locking them in. Getting them to try the iPod, which helps to tie them in to ITMS. Seeing how 'it just works' and so trying a Mac when they replace their windows machine.

[Mord]

just wandering here but maby one of the new products will be a new ipod, the wireless ipod that works with bluetooth and 802.11g so you can streem your music to the airport express how cool would that be.

you could set your ipod to detect the network so your ipod will playyour pre decided tune as you walk through your door never mind the opertunity's to play music through your neigbors sound system compleatly freaking them out :D

[xtekdiver]

All that is needed now is wireless capabilities added to the iPod so I can stream from that device rather than a computer. I want to be able to control my listening environment from wherever I am, and the iPod is the perfect device for doing that. What if you want to listen to a different playlist? You have to get up and go over to the computer to change it. Could the next gen iPods come with this functionality? I think it must be so.

[gothamac]

Now all I need is a wireless remote to go through this thing to control iTunes from another floor entirely. Would be nice if it could control things like volume on the stereo too...

Actually, the iPod would be the remote.

[whenpaulsparks]

i think this is gonna be the "summer of wireless".

Airport Express is the coolest thing i've ever seen. i'd been wanting a way to play music to my speakers wirelessly for a LONG time, and there was no real solution before now. i'm gonna buy one soon, and it will be great in the dorm room, wireless printing, wireless internet, wireless music... good times.

but i'm also awaiting FireWireless, mainly if it will enable wireless displays, which would be so incredibly awesome. i wouldnt buy one (yet) but it would be neat to see.

i'm saving my pennies for an iMac G5 now. and Airport Express.

[musicpyrite]

Does anybody know when iTunes 4.6 will be releced?

[kikimus]

Actually, the iPod would be the remote.

I agree. Although I have nothing to support it. I think the new 60 gig iPod will have built in AE support and be able to stream music directly to the AExpress.

[yoman]

Does anybody know when iTunes 4.6 will be releced?



sometime this afternoon or later this week.

[kuyu]

Cool! This one definately came out of left field. Good work Apple. I'll still stick to the dock though, as I'm not on a wireless network. :)

[Redboy]

Well, I guess the iPod could be a remote, especially if they update it to wirelessly share libraries with computers on the local network like other iTunes software does. That would be slick and might actually make me buy an iPod.

[wdlove]

This all sounds very exciting. Steve is really going to wow us this month. Now we are going to know that this is the 20th anniversary. :)

[HoserHead]

Appleinsider said that Jobs confirmed the iTunes Music Store European launch for the 15th. Does anybody have any further information on this? Specifically, does this preclude iTMS being released in Canada too?

[otoloui]

Does anyone expect a release of new Powerbook or other Laptops from Apple? Going to be buying a new Powerbook soon....

[LaMerVipere]

Security Update 2004-06-07 is now available for download from your software updater boys and girls! :)

–LMV

[yoman]

Security Update 2004-06-07 is not available for download from your software updater boys and girls! :)

–LMV


thanks for letting us know that its NOT available. :)

[LaMerVipere]

thanks for letting us know that its NOT available. :)

Damn typos, fixed now though :p

[midifarm]

Available NOW!

[Veldek]

Ok, boys and girls, read my post. I just guess that the new Power Macs won't reach 3 GHz. Why? Well, many evidences have said so until now. I do hope though that it will be 3 GHz, so don't read too much into my statement.

[~Shard~]

Yikes, talk about overload! ;) This is what I like to see though - a flurry of updates - looks like June is going to be an excellent month for Apple! Airport Express, AirTunes, iTunes 4.6 already - possible PowerMac updates tomorrow, iTMS Europe next week, then who knows what @ WWDC! G5 iMacs, new displays, iPod announcements, Tiger preview... :cool:

I personally kind of hope that PowerMacs AREN'T updated tomorrow - this would almost indicate a non-3GHz G5, and although updates are LONG overdue, and anything is better than nothing, it still would be so nice to see Jobs unveil the 3 GHz @ WWDC. Ah well, can't get too greedy I guess! ;) :cool:

[titaniumducky]

Airport Express $119.00 With Student Discount.

Only $10 off?

[Hattig]

Pessimistically, I reckon:

Dual 2.0, 2.2 and 2.4 models.

If we're lucky:

Dual 2.2, 2.4 and 2.6 models
OR
Dual 2.1, 2.4 and 2.7 models

These last two however put the lowest PowerMac speed above the current highest. I don't believe that Apple would do this. Maybe Dual 1.8, 2.2 and 2.6 Models (i.e., greater spread of speeds). Then 2GHz processors can be used in an upcoming quad PowerMac :p ... or more realistically in iMac G5s which will ship at 1.6, 2.0 and 2.4 GHz.

[gothamac]

Just though of something cool. Beatles-a-Rama through my home stereo.

[titaniumducky]

OK then... Apple will update its lineup to 20GB, 30GB, and 40GB.
And to be more competetive, all iPods will be $100 cheaper, including the iPod Mini.

iPod Mini (4GB): $149
iPod (20GB): $199
iPod (30GB): $299
iPod (40GB): $399
Mac OS 10.4: Priceless. Well actually probably $129

Those prices sound awesome! If only Apple would actually do that... :(

[~Shard~]

Does anyone expect a release of new Powerbook or other Laptops from Apple? Going to be buying a new Powerbook soon....

With so much else coming out, and so many other lines due for upgrades, I personally think you're fine with buying a PowerBook now - they were only released a few weeks ago anyway! I doubt we'll see any updates soon, and the G5 PowerBooks won't be out until sometime in 2005...

[Steven1621]

OK then... Apple will update its lineup to 20GB, 30GB, and 40GB.
And to be more competetive, all iPods will be $100 cheaper, including the iPod Mini.

iPod Mini (4GB): $149
iPod (20GB): $199
iPod (30GB): $299
iPod (40GB): $399
Mac OS 10.4: Priceless. Well actually probably $129

i don't think apple will go that low on the prices. people will pay the current prices as they have been for all this time. i would expect upgrades to the product however. built in recording FM tuner and such

[youngr40]

The crap thing about Airport Express, if it playing from your iTunes Playlist on your mac in the Living Room to the Speakers on the HiFi in the Dining Room, you still have to get up to change tracks or playlists.

So maybe some sort of remote device is coming?

[nuckinfutz]

The crap thing about Airport Express, if it playing from your iTunes Playlist on your mac in the Living Room to the Speakers on the HiFi in the Dining Room, you still have to get up to change tracks or playlists.

So maybe some sort of remote device is coming?


Isn't that the fun of Random play though? I like not knowing what song is coming next provided I know it's a song i'm going to like. That's the whole reason for labelling you tracks by star rating. I don't want to micromanage my songs. However I'm sure eventually remote control is something that will be feasible.

[Macmaniac]

My money is ready Apple, if they release new Powermacs tomorrow I am buying! I hope with this new Airport express we may soon see WiFi iPods!!
Ohhh Tuesday is gonna be exciting!

[stingerman]

The crap thing about Airport Express, if it playing from your iTunes Playlist on your mac in the Living Room to the Speakers on the HiFi in the Dining Room, you still have to get up to change tracks or playlists.

So maybe some sort of remote device is coming?

Not if you have a bluetooth phone with clicker. Get with the times, Apple does it all very well.

[bob_the_gorilla]

Well, now we know the real reason for those updated AE drivers the other day, perhaps.

An AE-compatible iPod remote type thing would rule. Kill the battery power, but who cares? It'd beat M$'s new device before it's even released... :-)

[jesuscandle]

Apple pretty much shut down Sony's new music "server" Sonos (http://www.sonos.com/products/) that was also announced today.

How do you know that Sonos is a Sony project? I couldn't confirm that anywhere.

[Mord]

Apple pretty much shut down Sony's new music "server" Sonos (http://www.sonos.com/products/) that was also announced today.

go to that link and scroll down a bit to that contoller. time for apple to get the lawyers in for blatent copying of apple syling and the ipod scrollwheel

[bob_the_gorilla]

go to that link and scroll down a bit to that contoller. time for apple to get the lawyers in for blatent copying of apple syling and the ipod scrollwheel

I'm sure they have a patent...

[MCCFR]

go to that link and scroll down a bit to that contoller. time for apple to get the lawyers in for blatent copying of apple syling and the ipod scrollwheel

Isn't the patent for the "iPod mini" type of controller i.e. where the cueing controls are integrated with the scroll wheel.

Apple can't patent or have an argument on this 'non-integrated' version, as the basic scroll wheel concept is on a Bang and Olufsen DECT phone that I purchased here in the UK back in 1997 or thereabouts.

As for the rest of it, who give a fsck?

This Sonos thing is going to be niche solution the way it's currently packaged: the controller is $399 on its own.

So it's $900 just to get one ZonePlayer and one Controller (probably a cool $1000 once you buy the charging cradle for the contoller). If you don't have speakers, add in another $250 for something vaguely worthwhile.

I'll give you the fact that its more upmarket in feel than something like Soundbridge from Roku, but at that price it should be.

[Mord]

Isn't the patent for the "iPod mini" type of controller i.e. where the cueing controls are integrated with the scroll wheel.

Apple can't patent or have an argument on this 'non-integrated' version, as the basic scroll wheel concept is on a Bang and Olufsen DECT phone that I purchased here in the UK back in 1997 or thereabouts.

As for the rest of it, who give a fsck?

This Sonos thing is going to be niche solution the way it's currently packaged: the controller is $399 on its own.

So it's $900 just to get one ZonePlayer and one Controller (probably a cool $1000 once you buy the charging cradle for the contoller). If you don't have speakers, add in another $250 for something vaguely worthwhile.

I'll give you the fact that its more upmarket in feel than something like Soundbridge from Roku, but at that price it should be.

I agree i am just pointing out that apple will not see it like that me the open sourse (ahhhhhh I cant spell) junkie that i am. I totaly disagree with interlectuall property rights.

[bob_the_gorilla]

I agree i am just pointing out that apple will not see it like that me the open sourse (ahhhhhh I cant spell) junkie that i am. I totaly disagree with interlectuall property rights.

You seriously think we'd be better without them?

You'd never have innovation from companies, as there would be no profit in it. And while I have a lot of respect for Linux et al, we need standards - too many cooks, and all that. Sometimes you actually need to have something universally forced upon you, for compatibility if nothing else.

So long as it's done in a responsible way - it all comes down to who's doing it ;)

[MCCFR]

I agree. Although I have nothing to support it. I think the new 60 gig iPod will have built in AE support and be able to stream music directly to the AExpress.

Actually, the better option is that there'll be a wholesale redesign for 4G iPods that might allow them to act as controllers for host-based iTunes.

My thinking is that we'll see an optional WiFi add-in that will plug-in, and the accompanying software will "rendezvous" with in-range AXP units, to give you a list of available 'hosts' that can be controlled. Of course, once a host is 'acquired' by an iPod remote, it disappears from from the available list until released. Whether that functionality could practically be integrated into a mini is questionable.

You'll then be able to change playlist, go next, back, etc. based on the iPod remote effectively browsing the host. All other interaction would be host directly to AXP and then to the speakers.

That way you preserve battery life, as the iPod remote will only be 'awake' during interaction.

[Mord]

I just dissagree with the way that companys suck ideas dry and can exist entirley on royalty's.

I am by no way saying that companies would have to be forced to give software (would be nice though) away but it should be abandonware sooner I would also love more pc company's to have nice looking laptops apple dose not own style thy create it and others should be able to imitate so apple would be forced to compete on price and quality of build to drive the market further instead of dominating it like the ipod and itunes have, the dell dj and other clones drive apple to make a better product openness creates a more competitive market.

don't want to have a long argument I havent reserched my opinion or backed it up and frankly i cant be bothered i have better things to do I just dispise monopoly's that suck market's dry with there copyrights that prevent a competitive market

[ibjoshua]

I've noticed no one has mentioned SJ's comments on the iWalk-Newton-PDA (call it what you wish). Seems like he's finally put the last nail in the Newton's coffin.

Jobs stated that he is proud not only of the products Apple has shipped, but also the products Apple has decided not to ship. When asked to elaborate, Jobs replied, "an Apple PDA."

Jobs confirmed that Apple had designed its own PDA device, but canned the project just prior to bringing it to market.

During a Q&A session, one individual pleaded with Jobs (as he clenched his Treo), begging for Apple to produce a PDA/Phone hybrid. Jobs told the audience member it would be best to remain happy with his Treo.

I expected more comments on this. There always seems like a lot of people want an Apple PDA and now we have a definitive statement from the top. What's the deal. No one care anymore?

i_b_joshua

[dopefiend]

I expected more comments on this. There always seems like a lot of people want an Apple PDA and now we have a definitive statement from the top. What's the deal. No one care anymore?

i_b_joshua

Apple could never compete with the current PDA offerings.

I mean, you can already get wifi/bluetooth/300+mhz pocket pc for $250!

[swissmann]

I also am surprised that there are not more PDA comments. I would love to have one. I agree that the market is saturated with PDA but how many of them have an internal hard drive. I think a flash MP3 player compared to the iPod is similar to the current PDA's compared to what Apple's PDA could be like. The most pricey PDA's would probably cost just about the same as what Apple could charge for a 20 GB PDA. Who wouldn't buy the Apple version when it had so much more possibilities?

[j_appel]

I guess when Steve said that Apple had some great things coming out this year to celebrate the Mac's 20th anniversary he was right. All I can say about stuff like today is WOW! :eek: Especially when you stop and think what all this cool stuff can do.

As for an Apple PDA, I could care less about it. I used to carry a PDA around, but it was just clunky and it filled up my pocket. I know Apple could make one better, but with contacts and appointments on the iPod, a PDA doesn't make since, TO ME.

[a_iver]

Well really an iPod can be turned into a PDA if they do it right. I wouldn't get your hopes up right away. But maybe someday. 5G, 6G?

[russed]

Well really an iPod can be turned into a PDA if they do it right. I wouldn't get your hopes up right away. But maybe someday. 5G, 6G?

i think that is a bit too obvious for apple, seeing what they came out with yesterday it may develop into something revolutionary that we never new we needed but we somehow will!

[sinbushar]

soooo

what happened to itunes 4.6?

:rolleyes:

sadness..

-adel

[~Shard~]

soooo

what happened to itunes 4.6?

:rolleyes:

sadness..

-adel

It will be coming later this week, no need to get your panties in a knot - patience is a virtue, my friend. ;) :cool:

[wdlove]

All good things comes to those that wait patiently. If it all happened in one day, then we wouldn't have time to savor each one!

[ingenious]

I keep checking the iTunes website, and it still says the newest version is 4.5, along with my Help>Check for iTunes Updates menu?!?!?!
What's going on? :confused: I want to be able to use 4.6!

[ingenious]

It will be coming later this week, no need to get your panties in a knot - patience is a virtue, my friend. ;) :cool:


So why later this week? What happened to it? Is it going to be releaed next Tuesday or something?

[klaus]

why all you guys are so desperate for iTunes 4.6?? The main difference will be airTunes, and you can't use that unless you have an airport express, and those aren't shipping until mid-july.

so I don't get the excitement, or do you always want (not need) the latest version knowing it's not better than 4.5 for the things you can use?

[sinbushar]

why all you guys are so desperate for iTunes 4.6?? The main difference will be airTunes, and you can't use that unless you have an airport express, and those aren't shipping until mid-july.

so I don't get the excitement, or do you always want (not need) the latest version knowing it's not better than 4.5 for the things you can use?

well, loser that i am, i'm hopenig for some other added benefits...i don't think AExpress will be the only change...i'm hoping for a party shuffle update...to allow you to better customize it...and seeing how the AExpress control is a drop down menu, mayber there will be a way to control other things as well....who knows :eek: ....

-adel

[sinbushar]

Only $10 off?

for the edu discount, apple is roughly 10% off...don't expect 300 dollars off a 129 dollar item...i wouldn't mind it, but señor jobs might

-adel