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thegoldenmackid
Jul 14, 2009, 03:40 PM
(CNN) — A majority of Americans think Sarah Palin is stepping down as Alaska's governor for political reasons, according to a new national poll, with a majority of Republicans now saying that they do not believe that Palin would be an effective president.

Only 33 percent of Republicans questioned in a CBS News survey released Monday night say that Palin would have the ability to serve effectively as president. Last fall, 71 percent of registered Republicans felt that way.

"It's unclear whether the change in Republicans' view of Palin is the result of her decision to step down as governor, or whether the GOP rank-and-file felt they had to defend their party's vice-presidential nominee during the campaign but don't feel the same tug of party loyalty today," said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "Either way, this is bad news for Palin, whose first task in 2012, if she runs for the White House, will be to convince Republican primary voters to support her."


Fifty-two percent of all respondents in the CBS survey said that Palin is resigning because she thinks its better for her political career, with one in four agreeing with Palin's comments that her resignation would benefit Alaska. Most Democrats and independents feel Palin's resignation is politically motivated, while Republicans appear divided, with 36 percent indicating the move is to advance her political career and 31 percent agreeing with Palin's explanation.

"That's another indication that Palin may face a skeptical GOP primary audience if she chooses to run for president," Holland says.

Americans appear divided on whether Palin will run for the White House in 2012, with 43 percent feeling Palin will make a bid for the presidency, 39 percent indicating she will not run, and 18 percent unsure.

Palin has been critical of her coverage in the national media. Nearly half of those questioned, 46 percent, say the media's been harder on Palin compared to other political figures, with only seven percent saying the media's been easier on her than other politicians. Forty-four percent say her treatment's been about the same.

The CBS News poll was conducted July 9-12, with 944 adult Americans questioned by telephone. The survey's sampling error is plus or minus three percentage points.

Story Here. (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/14/poll-majority-of-republicans-dont-think-palins-qualified-to-be-president/)



leekohler
Jul 14, 2009, 03:47 PM
Thank god the whole world hasn't gone insane. I'm glad to see this. She's the last thing they or this country needs.

thegoldenmackid
Jul 14, 2009, 03:49 PM
Thank god the whole world hasn't gone insane. I'm glad to see this. She's the last thing they or this country needs.

Oddly Lee, the worst part of that for her may not be the most obvious. Rather the definitive sign that there is nearly no support across for her on all issues.

.Andy
Jul 14, 2009, 03:50 PM
Last fall, 71 percent of registered Republicans felt that way.
Last fall, 71 percent of registered Republicans felt that way.
Last fall, 71 percent of registered Republicans felt that way.
Last fall, 71 percent of registered Republicans felt that way.
The gravity of this needs to resonate.

leekohler
Jul 14, 2009, 03:56 PM
Oddly Lee, the worst part of that for her may not be the most obvious. Rather the definitive sign that there is nearly no support across for her on all issues.

The Republicans need to walk away from her type if they ever plan to win the White House again. She, and people like her, are a major turn-off for the vast majority of Americans.

killerrobot
Jul 14, 2009, 03:57 PM
CBS News and USA today definitely have a different polling base. This was posted last week, not last fall.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-07-07-palin-poll_N.htm?poe=HFMostPopular

WASHINGTON — Sarah Palin's bombshell that she is resigning as Alaska governor actually has boosted her a bit among Republicans, a nationwide USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, though it also has dented her standing among Democrats and independents.

Two-thirds of Republicans want Palin, the party's vice presidential nominee in 2008, to be "a major national political figure" in the future. Three-fourths of Democrats hope she won't be.

Whatever numbers you believe, you've got to ask yourself WTF is she thinking, and whoTF wants anything to do with her still? Everyone person I've talked to who is not American, thinks she's the biggest joke in American politics since GWB.

thegoldenmackid
Jul 14, 2009, 03:58 PM
CBS News and USA today definitely have a different polling base. This was posted last week, not last fall.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-07-07-palin-poll_N.htm?poe=HFMostPopular

Not so much, the poll has nothing to do with president, just "national figure"...Arnold falls into that category.


The Republicans need to walk away from her type if they ever plan to win the White House again. She, and people like her, are a major turn-off for the vast majority of Americans.

Oh how people forget, it's the moderates that win elections. Bush won because he got the Latino vote (and the Supreme Court was stacked his favor the first time around), but without the Latino vote, he would have been in trouble.

killerrobot
Jul 14, 2009, 04:02 PM
Not so much, the poll has nothing to do with president, just "national figure"...Arnold falls into that category.


Read a little further down in the article.

When it comes to a potential presidential run, the USA TODAY Poll displays Palin's strength in the Republican base and weakness among swing voters, who traditionally decide national elections. Republicans by 71%-27% say they'd be likely to vote for her if she ran for president in 2012, while independents by 51%-44% would not.

Either way, for President or for Major National Figure, those numbers are way to effing high.

thegoldenmackid
Jul 14, 2009, 04:03 PM
Missed that, but still. They would not vote for "that one"

leekohler
Jul 14, 2009, 04:04 PM
Either way, for President or for Major National Figure, those numbers are way to effing high.

Still not good numbers. And the more she talks, the more they'll slip.

bruinsrme
Jul 14, 2009, 04:07 PM
tell me who is truly qualified to be president and I will vote for them.

Was bush qualified?
Was Clinton Qualified?
Bob Dole?
John McCain?
President Obama?

In my opinion when i vote I vote for the most qualified, that doesn't mean they are qualified but more so than the other candidates.

She has my vote, she is a hockey mom, that's hot!!!!

thegoldenmackid
Jul 14, 2009, 04:08 PM
tell me who is truly qualified to be president and I will vote for them.

Was bush qualified?
Was Clinton Qualified?
Bob Dole?
John McCain?
President Obama?

In my opinion when i vote I vote for the most qualified, that doesn't mean they are qualified but more so than the other candidates.

Who is qualified then?

bruinsrme
Jul 14, 2009, 04:15 PM
Who is qualified then?

the question isn't who is qualified but who we think is most qualified.

It's all lip service and the day the winner gets int the oval office they probably realize Sheet there aint no way I can live up to that promise.

While I was at intel I used to say if i was the engineer I would do this.
Well, that day came and then I realized that even though that sounded good whenit came to priorites it fell low on the list and never got done.
I am sure when obama sat in the chair he realized that too but on a much grander scale.

Campaigns are like date, its all about the pick up lines.
Sitting in the oval office is like Marriage is; what real life throws at you and your souse saying he/she wasn't like that when we were dating

leekohler
Jul 14, 2009, 04:17 PM
tell me who is truly qualified to be president and I will vote for them.

Was bush qualified?
Was Clinton Qualified?
Bob Dole?
John McCain?
President Obama?

In my opinion when i vote I vote for the most qualified, that doesn't mean they are qualified but more so than the other candidates.

She has my vote, she is a hockey mom, that's hot!!!!

The woman can't even address the issues. She can't even pretend to address the issues. She's not only unqualified, she's less than that. I don't know how much lower we could go than Palin, and I don't want to find out.

thegoldenmackid
Jul 14, 2009, 04:17 PM
the question isn't who is qualified but who we think is most qualified.

It's all lip service and the day the winner gets int the oval office they probably realize Sheet there aint no way I can live up to that promise.

While I was at intel I used to say if i was the engineer I would do this.
Well, that day came and then I realized that even though that sounded good whenit came to priorites it fell low on the list and never got done.
I am sure when obama sat in the chair he realized that too but on a much grander scale.

Campaigns are like date, its all about the pick up lines.
Sitting in the oval office is like Marriage is; what real life throws at you and your souse saying he/she wasn't like that when we were dating
But...out of curiosity is anyone qualified? I mean you can't get elected without saying somebody's taxes are getting lowered.

Eraserhead
Jul 14, 2009, 04:18 PM
tell me who is truly qualified to be president and I will vote for them.

Was bush qualified?
Was Clinton Qualified?
Bob Dole?
John McCain?
President Obama?

In my opinion when i vote I vote for the most qualified, that doesn't mean they are qualified but more so than the other candidates.

She has my vote, she is a hockey mom, that's hot!!!!

So because she's pretty she's more qualified than people who actually know what they are doing?

killerrobot
Jul 14, 2009, 04:28 PM
I hear that her latest qualifications include: 1 - that she knows dead fish go with the flow and 2- that she can make analogies comparing her quitting as governor like a star guard that has to make a pass.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/2009/07/full-text-of-palins-resignation-speech.php

Life is too short to compromise time and resources... it may be tempting and more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those who demand: "Sit down and shut up", but that's the worthless, easy path; that's a quitter's way out. And a problem in our country today is apathy. It would be apathetic to just hunker down and "go with the flow".

Nah, only dead fish "go with the flow".

pelicanflip
Jul 14, 2009, 04:43 PM
"Majority of Republicans think Sarah Palin is not qualified to be President"

INCORRECT.


Majority of people think Sarah Palin is not qualified to be President.

muchhhh better.

thegoldenmackid
Jul 14, 2009, 04:45 PM
"Majority of Republicans think Sarah Palin is not qualified to be President"

INCORRECT.


Majority of people think Sarah Palin is not qualified to be President.

muchhhh better.

Yes, but given that poll, she's not getting much love from the GOP either.

Zombie Acorn
Jul 14, 2009, 04:54 PM
Seems weird that the numbers would change that much, I wonder if there wasn't some sort of bias in the polling.

She doesn't seem to have a grip on the issues that she should to be even considering running for president. She basically had to be overnight coached just to hold a decent vp debate.

Desertrat
Jul 14, 2009, 05:00 PM
I thought Miz Sarah was the most interesting of the foursome of last fall. I didn't--and don't--really see her as having the depth of understanding of issues, even though I agree with many of her views. But superficiality just doesn't cut the mustard. I wouldn't vote for her in the primaries, most likely.

Homo sap has worked hard to create a complex world. I'm about halfway of the notion that we need two presidents: One for internal affairs and one for foreign affairs. For example, LBJ was a master of understanding the US people, but lousy at foreign affairs. Nixon was just the opposite; dumber'n dirt, internally but masterful at dealing with foreign leaders.

For now, though, I don't really see anybody in either party who impresses me with vision/competence/whatever.

'Rat

yg17
Jul 14, 2009, 05:16 PM
tell me who is truly qualified to be president and I will vote for them.

Was bush qualified?
Was Clinton Qualified?
Bob Dole?
John McCain?
President Obama?

In my opinion when i vote I vote for the most qualified, that doesn't mean they are qualified but more so than the other candidates.

She has my vote, she is a hockey mom, that's hot!!!!

The woman can't even address the issues. She can't even pretend to address the issues. She's not only unqualified, she's less than that. I don't know how much lower we could go than Palin, and I don't want to find out.

She's not just unqualified, she's dangerous. We've seen how she reacted to a harmless joke by a late night comedian, what if she was president and Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong Il said something about her or the US? She'd probably launch a nuke or two in their direction. The thought of someone with such a fragile ego having the nuclear launch codes scares the crap out of me. Not even W was that dumb.

Zombie Acorn
Jul 14, 2009, 05:25 PM
She's not just unqualified, she's dangerous. We've seen how she reacted to a harmless joke by a late night comedian, what if she was president and Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong Il said something about her or the US? She'd probably launch a nuke or two in their direction. The thought of someone with such a fragile ego having the nuclear launch codes scares the crap out of me. Not even W was that dumb.

This pretty much applies to every woman I have ever met.

leekohler
Jul 14, 2009, 05:29 PM
This pretty much applies to every woman I have ever met.

Uh-oh. You're in trouble now.

nuckinfutz
Jul 14, 2009, 05:32 PM
Hell it's not even really about being qualified. She doesn't have the intelligence and savvy (beyond the folksy Alaskan affectation) to be Commander in Chief.

Palin's a footnote. B'uh Bye

rdowns
Jul 14, 2009, 05:35 PM
I just can't fathom that people would actually vote for her. It is clear she does not have a grasp on the issues facing this country, both foreign and domestic. She was simply regurgitating a bunch of one-liners during the campaign.

In any case, I believe she left because she wants the money. She'll parade around the country as if she is some big shot in the Republican Party but I don't see her running for anything ever again.

Tomorrow
Jul 14, 2009, 08:38 PM
Who is qualified then?

James Earl Carter
George Herbert Walker Bush
Barack Hussein Obama

A couple of others who are no longer eligible.

AP_piano295
Jul 14, 2009, 08:43 PM
tell me who is truly qualified to be president and I will vote for them.

Was bush qualified? --NO
Was Clinton Qualified? -- YES
Bob Dole? -- YES
John McCain? -- (When he ran the first time I would have said YES this last time around NO)
President Obama? -- YES

In my opinion when i vote I vote for the most qualified, that doesn't mean they are qualified but more so than the other candidates.

She has my vote, she is a hockey mom, that's hot!!!!

Qualification isn't an arbitray idea its always been clear to reasonable people that Palin wasnt...

LizKat
Jul 14, 2009, 09:48 PM
She's not just unqualified, she's dangerous. We've seen how she reacted to a harmless joke by a late night comedian, what if she was president and Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong Il said something about her or the US? She'd probably launch a nuke or two in their direction. The thought of someone with such a fragile ego having the nuclear launch codes scares the crap out of me. Not even W was that dumb.

This pretty much applies to every woman I have ever met.

Uh-oh. You're in trouble now.

Nah, we're gonna let that slide. Don't feel like getting banned. But if his mom keeps score, that's probably good for two strikes, wow! ;)

Meanwhile I thought it was funny he happened to reference Kim Jong Il. Talk about fragile egos and launching stuff... :eek:

rhsgolfer33
Jul 14, 2009, 09:56 PM
Qualification isn't an arbitray idea its always been clear to reasonable people that Palin wasnt...

Exactly. I'm pretty sure she turned a few people away from McCain. I always felt he was qualified, even if I disagreed with him, but Sarah Palin, what a joke. She probably couldn't even point to China or Israel on a map.

As Lee said, and coming from someone who is registered Republican (did not vote that way in this election), the party needs to become more moderate and distance itself from the ultra-religious "accept my christian views or die" wingnuts. We also need some younger people to come up and take the reigns. There are plenty of young moderate Republicans out there, but the party as it currently is, has certainly dissuaded them from trying to take any leadership roles.

CorvusCamenarum
Jul 15, 2009, 12:50 AM
Exactly. I'm pretty sure she turned a few people away from McCain. I always felt he was qualified, even if I disagreed with him, but Sarah Palin, what a joke. She probably couldn't even point to China or Israel on a map.
Some maps are labelled. Do we know how literate she is?

As Lee said, and coming from someone who is registered Republican (did not vote that way in this election), the party needs to become more moderate and distance itself from the ultra-religious "accept my christian views or die" wingnuts. We also need some younger people to come up and take the reigns. There are plenty of young moderate Republicans out there, but the party as it currently is, has certainly dissuaded them from trying to take any leadership roles.
This.

Thomas Veil
Jul 15, 2009, 10:04 PM
So because she's pretty...Actually, the more I see and hear of her, the more she kind of creeps me out, in part because of her looks. Not exactly like a Stepford wife, but...how should I explain this...?

Anybody remember the Keith Giffen-J. M. DeMatteis Justice League? It's kind of a cult favorite because of its great dialogue and bizarre stories.

In one, the JL finds itself trapped on a dead, destroyed world...except for one small section: an amusement park, staffed by mindless robots who display an annoying Disney-like desire to make their guests hap-hap-happy!!

Quite a few of the robots are pretty girls, and at one point the perpetually horny Flash says of the gorgeous, zombie-like women, "Man, I've seen wholesome chicks before, but I've never seen any who were so wholesome that even I wouldn't mess with them!"

That's kind of how I feel about Palin.

obeygiant
Jul 16, 2009, 09:18 AM
Even if Palin was qualified, I don't want her as president.

yg17
Jul 16, 2009, 09:19 AM
Meanwhile I thought it was funny he happened to reference Kim Jong Il. Talk about fragile egos and launching stuff... :eek:

Well, unlike Kim Jong Il and North Korea, our nukes can go farther than a bottle rocket, so she scares me a bit more ;)

opinioncircle
Jul 16, 2009, 10:33 AM
I think that republicans are trying to part ways with Palin. I mean, she lost in 08 and she doesn't seem to have that much of an appreciation all around the US.
But republicans should wonder whether they're qualified to help run a country, rather than debate on Palin if you ask me...

nick9191
Jul 16, 2009, 10:42 AM
She's a moron, plain and simple. I have no idea how she got anywhere near close to a position of power. I still have no idea why Gore lost to Bush. What is it about Republicans wanting complete morons to run the country. Our politicians are sleazy scumbags, thats bad, but if theres anything worse than a sleazy scumbag running a country, it's a moron.

LizKat
Jul 16, 2009, 01:19 PM
Well, unlike Kim Jong Il and North Korea, our nukes can go farther than a bottle rocket, so she scares me a bit more ;)

She does not scare me, but that's because McCain lost.

However, the party that allowed her to pop onto the top of their ticket has alarmed me ever since Watergate.

Wotan31
Jul 17, 2009, 09:40 AM
The gravity of this needs to resonate.
I fail to see the gravity. Another worthless thread. I see people changing their minds about someone after learning more about that person. I wouldn't vote for her as President either. BFD. Hardly newsworthy. -yawn-

designgeek
Jul 17, 2009, 09:46 AM
Oh thank god. I was afraid all that press was right saying that the GOP is behind her. Looks like I'm gullible like "one of them" crap.

I'd be behind her but not for office. :eek:

Tomorrow
Jul 17, 2009, 12:11 PM
I'd be behind her but not for office. :eek:

I see what you did there. :p