Powerbook Wireless - How good is it?

[bannor]

Hi there. I'm looking to get either the 12" Powerbook, or 12" IBook (who isn't?) From reading through posts on various forums I've heard that the Powerbook has poor Airport reception. Is this a past problem or something that is prevalent on the newest revision of the 12" PBooks? Ideally, I'd like to have my wireless router (Netgear, not Airport Basestation) in my basement, and be able to have good wireless reception up on my deck, or even in my backyard (perhaps 50' away from the router, and through 2 walls). Will the Powerbook be able to establish a reliable connection under these conditions, or would the IBook be the only option?

Thanks,
Dennis

[wPod]

AL is a great electronic shield. great for preventing interfierence b/w various electronic devices. unfortunatly the PB is surrounded by AL . . . except for two plastic pieces on either side of the screen. the airport antena are under these plastic pieces. to an extent though the AL still shields the signal and from my experience (i had a 12" iBook and now have a 12" PB) the PB works fine, but it has a slightly shorter range. i can work through 2 walls and about 50' to my backyard from my d-link router. much further than that the 12" probably wont work. but the iBook will work a little further (i had an older iBook with standard airport, not airport extreme) . . . what i would recomend though is the airport express! i have been using a d-link range extendor to get a larger range for my PB . . .but the airport extreme sounds 50 times cooler with many more advantages. i mean its really small you can take it out with you and instantly extend your range! so i would go for the PB and the airport express!!!!

[virividox]

okay i can compare ibook and powerbooks first hand

because i have a pb and my sister an ibook

when hers has full signal mine has 3 bars. im always 1 less than hers when we go far from the base station; i drop sooner than she does, but its still acceptable range.

[bannor]

Do you and your sister have the latest revisions of the Powerbook and Ibook? How do you find the battery life compares between the two of them?

[winwintoo]

Hi Dennis, I'm writing this from the lobby of my apartment building. A steel and cement hi-rise structure in the middle of the city surrounded by office buildings, satellite receivers, and so-on. There are at least 6 networks in this building that I know of besides mine, everybody has a cordless phone, a cell phone and a microwave etc. and here I am happily surfing the web, reading my email and writing to you 6 floors below my router.

The signal looks kind of wimpy, only one bar, so I won't be expecting any speed but it gets the job done.

The router is a Linksys that I just got the other day, can't remember the specs.

Margaret

[virividox]

i dont have the latest revision

i have rev a 17 pbook
and she has i think the 800 mhz ibook

her battery life whoops mine by about an hour

[MrSugar]

i dont have the latest revision

i have rev a 17 pbook
and she has i think the 800 mhz ibook

her battery life whoops mine by about an hour

Ditto, I had a bud with an Ibook at school and he always had better range when we were in various locations. That being said, I had VERY good reception and have no complaints. I owned almost every PC laptop I saw when it came to wireless signal.

[Chip NoVaMac]

My PB 12" rev. B is better than my Toshiba 15" 515.

[Elbeano]

...so i would go for the PB and the airport express!!!!

Unfortunately the airport express is only going to act as a repeater for an actual airport extreme basestation. However, I can't imagine someone isn't going to figure out a way to rig up other routers or repeaters to be used as a repeater while using the airport express as the primary router. It's still not going to keep me from getting one, but I was really looking forward to using that as a repeater with my linksys.

[rueyeet]

Can anyone tell me how the newer aluminum PowerBooks compare to the old TiBook for wireless reception? Personally, I can't seem to get more than two bars of signal outside the same room as the base station, three bars if I'm lucky or the wireless gods are smiling on me. This is with the snow base station, prior to the Extreme or Express products, so bridging isn't going to do me any good.

[Chip NoVaMac]

Unfortunately the airport express is only going to act as a repeater for an actual airport extreme basestation. However, I can't imagine someone isn't going to figure out a way to rig up other routers or repeaters to be used as a repeater while using the airport express as the primary router. It's still not going to keep me from getting one, but I was really looking forward to using that as a repeater with my linksys.

Many of us are waiting for shipping units. Then we'll know if it works with any other routers. I know what Apple says, but they want to sell their own gear, and they don't want the support issues of other brand routers.

[Elbeano]

That's a pretty good point, but I didn't want to even let that thought in my head lest the irony God's smash that possibility.

[Gherkin]

I just got my 15" AlBook. I get 3 to 4 bars throughout my whole house. I'm extremely pleased. The internet never feels slow or anything either.

[Counterfit]

Can anyone tell me how the newer aluminum PowerBooks compare to the old TiBook for wireless reception? Personally, I can't seem to get more than two bars of signal outside the same room as the base station, three bars if I'm lucky or the wireless gods are smiling on me. This is with the snow base station, prior to the Extreme or Express products, so bridging isn't going to do me any good. The new ones should have much better reception, seeing that the antennas are one the edge of the display and covered by plastic, rather than around the base and surround by titanium.

[winwintoo]

Can anyone tell me how the newer aluminum PowerBooks compare to the old TiBook for wireless reception? Personally, I can't seem to get more than two bars of signal outside the same room as the base station, three bars if I'm lucky or the wireless gods are smiling on me. This is with the snow base station, prior to the Extreme or Express products, so bridging isn't going to do me any good.

I posted earlier that I was sitting in the lobby of my apartment building surfing the net over my network that was located in my apartment on the 6th floor. I was using my new 12" PowerBook 1 Ghz. - that's pretty good reception in my mind. I used to have an Airport Express and it was so flakey I ditched it for a Linksys. Much better reception.

Take care, Margaret

[johnnyjibbs]

winwintoo, I'm assuming you meant AirPort Extreme not Express. :)

Still, I recently bought an AE card for my 12" rev B PB and get good signal in our uni library (they use D-Link routers).

I'm thinking about getting the new AirPort Express thing for our home. I'm hoping my parents will upgrade from dial-up to broadband and I like the idea of AirTunes. Someone said, you still need a primary router for internet. If I get broadband, my ISP will provide and free modem and router. Does that mean, I can just connect the output cable to AirPort Express? Please don't say I need to get another base station to be able to use it as internet! :confused:

[winwintoo]

winwintoo, I'm assuming you meant AirPort Extreme not Express. :)



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Sorry, Yes it was an Airport Extreme. I'm still very impressed that I could pick up my network down in the lobby, that seems like a long way to go through all that steel and concrete and with all the downtown interference.

m

[crazzyeddie]

winwintoo, I'm assuming you meant AirPort Extreme not Express. :)

Still, I recently bought an AE card for my 12" rev B PB and get good signal in our uni library (they use D-Link routers).

I'm thinking about getting the new AirPort Express thing for our home. I'm hoping my parents will upgrade from dial-up to broadband and I like the idea of AirTunes. Someone said, you still need a primary router for internet. If I get broadband, my ISP will provide and free modem and router. Does that mean, I can just connect the output cable to AirPort Express? Please don't say I need to get another base station to be able to use it as internet! :confused:

The Airport Express will act as a router for up to 10 wireless computers, so you do not need to buy another one.

[wPod]

Unfortunately the airport express is only going to act as a repeater for an actual airport extreme basestation. However, I can't imagine someone isn't going to figure out a way to rig up other routers or repeaters to be used as a repeater while using the airport express as the primary router. It's still not going to keep me from getting one, but I was really looking forward to using that as a repeater with my linksys.

NOOOO not the fine print!!!!! i guess i skipped over the fine print on apple's site that says, "AirPort Express can extend the range only of an AirPort Extreme or AirPort Express wireless network." im guessing there will be a way around it, might not be mentioned by apple but someone will find a way. i dont know anyone that actually owns an airport basestation. but. . . it says it can extend the range of an airport express base station, so you could just get two, have one sitting by your DSL/cable modem as your primary router and the second one elsewhere to extend your range.

[johng723]

I think that the possiblity that the airport express will act as a bridge between other routers is pretty high. On the apple website, it states that that you can add the airport express to play on your existing network. If that's the case then obviously the express detects other networks and is in one way or another compatible with other networks and other wireless routers so I would think and hope at the same time that it will also act as a bridge between the two

[StrangeQuark]

I have a Powerbook 12". I get 3 bars in my bedroom, 1 story above and 60ft away from the basestation with the door closed. I'm typing this right now on a swing in my backyard which is a good 100ft from the basestation, penetrating through a concrete block house. I show two bars right now.

Note: Rev C Powerbook

[Chip NoVaMac]

NOOOO not the fine print!!!!! i guess i skipped over the fine print on apple's site that says, "AirPort Express can extend the range only of an AirPort Extreme or AirPort Express wireless network." im guessing there will be a way around it, might not be mentioned by apple but someone will find a way. i dont know anyone that actually owns an airport basestation. but. . . it says it can extend the range of an airport express base station, so you could just get two, have one sitting by your DSL/cable modem as your primary router and the second one elsewhere to extend your range.

In another thread it was mentioned that there are two chip-set makers for wi-fi bases. So it is likely that the Express will work with another third party. But Apple won't provide any support issues.

[QCassidy352]

I'm disappointed with the airport on my rev. B 12" powerbook. I only get 3 bars, and my basestation is one room away.