New Desktop Pictures and QuickTime X Icon in Latest Snow Leopard [Archive]

MacRumors

Jul 25, 2009, 11:22 AM

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/07/25/new-desktop-pictures-and-quicktime-x-icon-in-latest-snow-leopard/)

Apple appears to be making some final visual tweaks to Snow Leopard in their latest developer build. Several people have noticed that Apple has provided new Desktop pictures that come with the OS. Uneasy Silence (http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2009/07/14293/) offers a complete gallery of the images:

http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/07/25/115938-gall_425.jpg
(http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2009/07/14293/)
Another cosmetic changes include new avatars (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=8156239&postcount=201), an improved QuickTime pause button (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=8157513&postcount=278) and a new QuickTime X icon:

http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/07/25/121422-qt_300.jpg

Some behavior changes in Expose (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=8157018&postcount=254) and scrubbing QuickTime movies (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=8157486&postcount=275) have been noticed but were apparently introduced in earlier builds. Finally, there are reports that stability has significantly improved over the previous build.

Snow Leopard will be released in September (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/06/08/mac-os-x-10-6-snow-leopard-shipping-in-september-29-for-leopard-users/) and will be $29 for existing Mac OS X Leopard owners.

Article Link: New Desktop Pictures and QuickTime X Icon in Latest Snow Leopard (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/07/25/new-desktop-pictures-and-quicktime-x-icon-in-latest-snow-leopard/)

Manic Mouse

Jul 25, 2009, 11:29 AM

Kinda liked the purple Quicktime icon, fitted well with the default Leopard wallpaper.

Cjr605

Jul 25, 2009, 11:30 AM

pretty cool icon

iSimx

Jul 25, 2009, 11:30 AM

Finally new wallpaper!!! thank you apple! :apple: :D

iCantwait

Jul 25, 2009, 11:32 AM

getting closer!

Heijtink

Jul 25, 2009, 11:36 AM

Can we download the QuickTime logo from somewhere?just so I can already enter into SL mood.

InTheUnion

Jul 25, 2009, 11:37 AM

I love 'nighthawks' but not sure it works so great as a wallpaper

On second thoughts maybe it does

axboi87

Jul 25, 2009, 11:39 AM

Kilamite

Jul 25, 2009, 11:40 AM

Next: Marble.

Sky Blue

Jul 25, 2009, 11:41 AM

Next: Marble.

haha, no.

jlewis2k1

Jul 25, 2009, 11:43 AM

I like both purple and blue quicktime icons. I wonder if the purple one is meant for the server edition?

TheWarIsNotOver

Jul 25, 2009, 11:43 AM

Kinda liked the purple Quicktime icon, fitted well with the default Leopard wallpaper.

Yeah, Purple first well with Leopard, but this blue/white icon fits Snow Leopard better :)

Applepi

Jul 25, 2009, 11:43 AM

Would anyone have a bigger version of the new avatars? I love the new wallpapers too.

InkMaster

Jul 25, 2009, 11:43 AM

Can we download those wallpapers from somewhere? And the QuickTime logo?just so I can already enter into SL mood.

Yes, wallpapers I uploaded to Flickr at full resolutions yesterday as soon as 10A421 came out:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelflux/sets/72157621814869086/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelflux/sets/72157621814915596/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelflux/sets/72157621690589713/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelflux/sets/72157621815117208/

And the icon, in icns format, I'm attaching to this post.

FightTheFuture

Jul 25, 2009, 11:43 AM

Kinda liked the purple Quicktime icon, fitted well with the default Leopard wallpaper.yeah i thought leopard & snow leopard brought the nebula look front and center with the OS. purple would've been great for Quicktime X, the blue feels a little aqua.

really digging the new wallpapers (desktop pictures) that come installed. wonder how much it costs apple to use them though?

9rithesh

Jul 25, 2009, 11:44 AM

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/5C3_-qyu_0ZwxKezRc02Ug?feat=directlink

I like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dicklacara

Jul 25, 2009, 11:45 AM

I love 'nighthawks' but not sure it works so great as a wallpaper

On second thoughts maybe it does

I think it will-- it is one of my favorites from Hopper (as I sip my coffee from a Nighthawks mug)

macduke

Jul 25, 2009, 11:45 AM

Next: Marble.

I'm still holding onto the hope that it will be the "one more thing" right before launch.

So I just downloaded several of these new wallpapers onto my 3gs. Nice. The new QT icon is also teh secks.

BornAgainMac

Jul 25, 2009, 11:47 AM

No marble wallpaper at least?

InkMaster

Jul 25, 2009, 11:48 AM

No marble wallpaper at least?

Nope, just some other rocks.

Would anyone have a bigger version of the new avatars? I love the new wallpapers too.

Really only 6-7 new ones and even those are "full size" are only 48x48. Either way, attaching the entire folder with all of them, including the old ones.

Peace

Jul 25, 2009, 11:48 AM

OpenGL still runs at less than half the speed than with 10.5! Run an OpenGL test In xbench under 10.5 and then under SL. On my MacBook I get a OpenGL score of 61 Under SL and about 150 under 10.5. No update yet has fixed it. Verfied it on 2 other macs. Anyone else notice this?

People need to stop using Xbench as a measuring tool on SL. It's 3 years old and there have been a LOT of changes to Mac OS 10 since then.

"Version History
1.3 [2006-08-13]
Corrected a mistake that caused the altivec test to be turned off on PowerPC machines
Turned off coalesced graphics updates for all platforms on Mac OS 10.4.4 and higher
Switched compiler to GCC 4.0 on PowerPC. This provides some boost to floating point and AltiVec scores, and these have been recalibrated accordingly. This also raises Xbench's system requirements to 10.3.9 or higher.
Revised machine database to include the MacBook, Intel iMac and several other models
Added code to dynamically load machine database on launch from the Xbench website
Added support for temporarily turning off beam sync on Tiger while running graphics tests
Fixed an issue that causes Xbench to fail to launch on Leopard
Built with Xcode 2.4

It's Xbench that needs to be fixed not Snow Leopard.

Xcode 3.2 is a 64-bit app. Xcode 2.4 was a 32-bit app.

I'm guessing had Xbench been compiled on an Intel only machine using GCC 4.2 results for machines would be much different.

Manic Mouse

Jul 25, 2009, 11:49 AM

yeah i thought leopard & snow leopard brought the nebula look front and center with the OS. purple would've been great for Quicktime X, the blue feels a little aqua.

really digging the new wallpapers (desktop pictures) that come installed. wonder how much it costs apple to use them though?

The Snow Leopard ones are from the National Geographic Wildlife Photographer of the Year exhibition, I remember seeing them in the London Natural History museum.

Here they are: Steve Winter's snow leopard photographs (http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/06/snow-leopards/winter-photography)

miles01110

Jul 25, 2009, 11:49 AM

Some of those wallpapers are horrendously ugly. :-(

InkMaster

Jul 25, 2009, 11:51 AM

Some of those wallpapers are horrendously ugly. :-(

Agreed. The graffiti ones especially are quite ghastly - they almost make those throw-up-of-color wallpapers in 7 look like works of art :p

Jigsawjammer

Jul 25, 2009, 11:52 AM

Quick question: will snow leopard be a full retail operating system on the up to date disk or will it be the kind of thing where you need leopard to install snow leopard?

ggt

Jul 25, 2009, 11:53 AM

Some of those wallpapers are horrendously ugly. :-(

I agree, they are horrible. They look like stuffed animals in a museum.

AngryApple

Jul 25, 2009, 11:53 AM

I love the purpleness of Leopard. What will be the default wallpaper of Snow Leopard?

r.j.s

Jul 25, 2009, 11:55 AM

Quick question: will snow leopard be a full retail operating system on the up to date disk or will it be the kind of thing where you need leopard to install snow leopard?

No one knows yet. We'll have to wait and see.

InkMaster

Jul 25, 2009, 11:55 AM

Quick question: will snow leopard be a full retail operating system on the up to date disk or will it be the kind of thing where you need leopard to install snow leopard?

Full system but as with any prior version you will be able to easily upgrade if you have an older version installed.

No one knows yet. We'll have to wait and see.

Not a matter of "knowing" just how else would they do it? Make everyone buy a copy of Leopard first? A bit silly no?

r.j.s

Jul 25, 2009, 11:58 AM

Not a matter of "knowing" just how else would they do it? Make everyone buy a copy of Leopard first? A bit silly no?

The drop-in disc for Leopard required Tiger to be installed ... since Apple has said the upgrade price is for those with Leopard, it is quite possible the upgrade disc and drop-in disc for SL will be the same deal.

Applepi

Jul 25, 2009, 11:59 AM

Really only 6-7 new ones and even those are "full size" are only 48x48. Either way, attaching the entire folder with all of them, including the old ones.

Thank you very much.

Quillz

Jul 25, 2009, 12:00 PM

Unreported is that there are a few new user account pictures, too.

Kilamite

Jul 25, 2009, 12:01 PM

Unreported is that there are a few new user account pictures, too.

Another cosmetic changes include new avatars (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=8156239&postcount=201)..

Sure? ;)

spiralstairs

Jul 25, 2009, 12:02 PM

There's also a new Quicktime web controller!

http://kttns.org/q3nje

Looks a whole lot better!

InkMaster

Jul 25, 2009, 12:02 PM

The drop-in disc for Leopard required Tiger to be installed ... since Apple has said the upgrade price is for those with Leopard, it is quite possible the upgrade disc and drop-in disc for SL will be the same deal.

Yes but what I'm saying is that you will be obviously able to buy it in a store, do a clean and full install of SL without needing anything else to be there first. (what he was asking about)

chaosconan

Jul 25, 2009, 12:04 PM

Even though I'm still young I'm an oldy. I like the old quicktime icon. And on this note I prefer the Mac OS 9 desktop over Mac OS X cat series :)

It's just me. Love the classics over the cats. :D

InkMaster

Jul 25, 2009, 12:04 PM

There's also a new Quicktime web controller!

http://kttns.org/q3nje

Looks a whole lot better!

Not entirely sure where you're looking, but I'm still getting the old one...

Olivier81

Jul 25, 2009, 12:07 PM

Quillz

Jul 25, 2009, 12:08 PM

Not entirely sure where you're looking, but I'm still getting the old one...
Same here. It seems some sites use the new one, others use the old one. The new one looks good, but scrubbing is more difficult, and has a "30-second rewind" button for no reason.
is it just me or do some of those wallpapers seem really un-apple like? The camo is awful and the first snow leopard picture is terrible. In leopard all the wallpapers are pretty good but some of these are really un-refined...Just my thoughts
Then don't use them. They are there to give people more choice.

InkMaster

Jul 25, 2009, 12:09 PM

is it just me or do some of those wallpapers seem really un-apple like? The camo is awful and the first snow leopard picture is terrible. In leopard all the wallpapers are pretty good but some of these are really un-refined...Just my thoughts

Yeah, feels like they're trying too hard to look "hip and trendy" or whatever you want to call it, with some of these.

Same here. It seems some sites use the new one, others use the old one. The new one looks good, but scrubbing is more difficult, and has a "30-second rewind" button for no reason.

Would you by any chance have a link to where a site would be using them? - Just even on Apple's own trailer site I'm still getting the old one.

viperguy

Jul 25, 2009, 12:12 PM

I'm upgrading to SL at day 1 :D
29$ sounds like a bargain for it!

Heijtink

Jul 25, 2009, 12:16 PM

Yes, wallpapers I uploaded to Flickr at full resolutions yesterday as soon as 10A421 came out:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelflux/sets/72157621814869086/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelflux/sets/72157621814915596/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelflux/sets/72157621690589713/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelflux/sets/72157621815117208/

And the icon, in icns format, I'm attaching to this post.

Totally awesome! Thanks man!

HLdan

Jul 25, 2009, 12:22 PM

Not a matter of "knowing" just how else would they do it? Make everyone buy a copy of Leopard first? A bit silly no?

No, that's not how it will work. If you have Tiger on your Intel Mac then you'll have to buy the full retail version of Snow Leopard which will most likely be sold as the box set.

KingYaba

Jul 25, 2009, 12:24 PM

I think I'll stick with the old Quicktime icon.

Koyder

Jul 25, 2009, 12:24 PM

Could someone post the new QuickTime X icon in the original .icns format (which includes properly rendered smaller states)? Thanks!

emt1

Jul 25, 2009, 12:25 PM

I really like the leaves (leafs?) picture. It's my new desktop background!

InkMaster

Jul 25, 2009, 12:25 PM

No, that's not how it will work. If you have Tiger on your Intel Mac then you'll have to buy the full retail version of Snow Leopard which will most likely be sold as the box set.

Just backed up my point in the question I was answering to the original person who asked about this very same thing :p

Totally awesome! Thanks man!

np, enjoy :)

Could someone post the new QuickTime X icon in the original .icns format (which includes properly rendered smaller states)? Thanks!

Yes, go a few posts back in this thread, I posted it on the first page I think.

I really like the leaves (leafs?) picture. It's my new desktop background!

Technically speaking 'leaves' would be correct, but I personally am a bigger fan of leafs :p

Koyder

Jul 25, 2009, 12:31 PM

Yes, go a few posts back in this thread, I posted it on the first page I think.

I've just noticed, thanks!

emvath

Jul 25, 2009, 12:32 PM

An improved pause button?!?! :eek:

Rot'nApple

Jul 25, 2009, 12:37 PM

Will these refined enhancements in Snow Leopard eventually be copied into a future Windows 7 release in time to showcase in their copied MS stores? :rolleyes:

dsalehipour

Jul 25, 2009, 12:38 PM

Can we download the QuickTime logo from somewhere?just so I can already enter into SL mood.

Yea. Well Kind of. What i just did is copy the image off the home screen, open it in a simple photo editing tool (even ipreview), and edit out the white background, then download this super small and simple app "Img2Icns" here (http://www.img2icnsapp.com/), drag your new edited quicktime pic into the program, it creates the .icns file, find that file, then open the contents of your quicktime app, go under the folder resources and find the icon for it labeled "QuickTimePlayer.icns", and name your custom .icn the same name, then move the original .icn to a backup spot, and add your new .icn.

Hopefully this helped you.
P.S. You can also use this method for really any app.

Quillz

Jul 25, 2009, 12:39 PM

Will these refined enhancements in Snow Leopard eventually be copied into a future Windows 7 release in time to showcase in their copied MS stores? :rolleyes:
Probably not. These aren't really "refinements," anyway, just a few new minor things added to Snow Leopard.

It's also funny that you assume that Apple has never once copied ideas from Microsoft or any other corporation. In the high technology industry, everyone copies from everyone else.

InkMaster

Jul 25, 2009, 12:43 PM

Yea. Well Kind of. What i just did is copy the image off the home screen, open it in a simple photo editing tool (even ipreview), and edit out the white background, then download this super small and simple app "Img2Icns" here (http://www.img2icnsapp.com/), drag your new edited quicktime pic into the program, it creates the .icns file, find that file, then open the contents of your quicktime app, go under the folder resources and find the icon for it labeled "QuickTimePlayer.icns", and name your custom .icn the same name, then move the original .icn to a backup spot, and add your new .icn.

Hopefully this helped you.
P.S. You can also use this method for really any app.

OR you can just take the original .icns file (posted on the first page of this thread) and save yourself the 2 minutes of hassles :p

ArtOfWarfare

Jul 25, 2009, 12:53 PM

Personally, I thought the purple and black Quicktime X icon didn't go along with the rest of the Mac OS X icons. I very much prefer the re-colored blue and silver one.

Fluffy Bunny

Jul 25, 2009, 12:55 PM

Those pictures look so...you know what. What's next? Kitty cats with birthday hats (after a party at the MS retail store)?

mjw11

Jul 25, 2009, 12:59 PM

InkMaster

Jul 25, 2009, 01:07 PM

I don't like the new QTX logo, in-fact i don't like the look of QTX at all i think they've ruined it, personally. i mean did anyone else notice the crowd's reaction when it was shown at the keynote? complete silence

I don't mind the new UI, in fact I quite like it - when you actually use it its quite nice - a lot better then the old one where a ton of space was wasted just for the 4-5 buttons, but yes, the new icon is absolutely horrid.

Or rather its horrid when its in the dock, at full size it doesn't look too bad.

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1866/quicktimeplayerx.png

rwilliams

Jul 25, 2009, 01:07 PM

Some of the new wallpapers will rival some of the new Windows 7 wallpapers in sheer ugliness. Yikes.

Thanks for the Quicktime icon as well. There's also one up on DeviantArt just in case anyone has any problems downloading the one in this post for any reason.

chaosconan

Jul 25, 2009, 01:09 PM

Peace

Jul 25, 2009, 01:12 PM

I don't mind the new UI, in fact I quite like it - when you actually use it its quite nice - a lot better then the old one where a ton of space was wasted just for the 4-5 buttons, but yes, the new icon is absolutely horrid.

Or rather its horrid when its in the dock, at full size it doesn't look too bad.

It does look out of place because it has more of a 3D look to it than other icons on the dock.

I'm guessing newer versions of iTunes and Apple suites like iLife will have more 3D icons as well.

zedsdead

Jul 25, 2009, 01:14 PM

I like both of the new Quicktime X Dock Icons, but I think the purple one was better. Goes more with the Leopard/Snow Leopard background (then again, Server uses blue, so whatever)...point is, they are good.

H$R

Jul 25, 2009, 01:16 PM

I prefer the new Quicktime icon. Purple wasn't looking that good in my eyes. Blue and silver looks pretty nice.

I really like the the wallpapers with the snow leopards.

aurichie

Jul 25, 2009, 01:18 PM

Some of those wallpapers are horrendously ugly. :-(

Indeed almost all of them are horrible looking. And the new rotating wallpaper sets in Windows 7 are gorgeous. Microsoft does have good taste, sometimes. ;)

NathanCH

Jul 25, 2009, 01:26 PM

Quick Time X is 10 times worse than the previous Quick Time.

Quillz

Jul 25, 2009, 01:31 PM

Quick Time X is 10 times worse than the previous Quick Time.
How? Other than it seems to lack Preferences, it plays all the same file formats as the previous QuickTime versions did.
Indeed almost all of them are horrible looking. And the new rotating wallpaper sets in Windows 7 are gorgeous. Microsoft does have good taste, sometimes. ;)
The new Windows 7 wallpapers are indeed very nice, although the "slideshow" feature has been in Mac OS X for a while, so it's possible to get a similar effect on both OS.

illegallydead

Jul 25, 2009, 01:35 PM

I prefer the new Quicktime icon. Purple wasn't looking that good in my eyes. Blue and silver looks pretty nice.

I really like the the wallpapers with the snow leopards.

hahaha and I prefer the one from Quicktime 32!!! :p

lol kidding. The SL one looks nice :D

PS. ya they do seem to have gone a bit downhill in the wallpaper department. Is it just me or is the first (bug-eyed) Snow Leopard pic just plain old disturbing?

DELLsFan

Jul 25, 2009, 01:44 PM

Will these refined enhancements in Snow Leopard eventually be copied into a future Windows 7 release in time to showcase in their copied MS stores? :rolleyes:

Probably not. If you've seen one cat, you've seen them all.

NathanCH

Jul 25, 2009, 01:47 PM

How? Other than it seems to lack Preferences, it plays all the same file formats as the previous QuickTime versions did.

Exactly. You said it yourself. Plays the same amount of files (barely any), but has no preferences (not less).

mmichalak

Jul 25, 2009, 01:49 PM

Quillz

Jul 25, 2009, 01:53 PM

Those wallpapers have Microsoft written all over them, especially the first one is a joke... They look kind of ugly (and when I say Microsoft I mean pre-Vista Microsoft, which is even worse when it comes to the wallpapers dept. - just my opinion)....:eek:

The first one on the second row looks scary, why would I want that on my desktop? On the other hand, if you go scary, go all the way, maybe some blood on leopard's face? :D
Just because Microsoft put similar wallpapers in Vista and 7 doesn't mean Apple can't, either. If you don't like them, don't use them. Simple as that.

I like the ones that feature the Snow Leopard, though. They are quite nice.

H$R

Jul 25, 2009, 02:03 PM

Is it just me or is the first (bug-eyed) Snow Leopard pic just plain old disturbing?

No, I thought exactly the same. I love the snow falling down but the cat looks like it's stuffed. But the others with the cats are pretty cool.

Though I just set the black/white one with the mountains. I love mountains :p

andy721

Jul 25, 2009, 02:08 PM

The Quicktime icon looks ok but the desktop wallpaper looks lame as usual.

speakerwizard

Jul 25, 2009, 02:09 PM

Full system but as with any prior version you will be able to easily upgrade if you have an older version installed.

Not a matter of "knowing" just how else would they do it? Make everyone buy a copy of Leopard first? A bit silly no?

Every intel mac has leopard

iJesus

Jul 25, 2009, 02:11 PM

Holy crud, the Tahoe wallpaper is where I had my first real kiss...

... I think I love you Snow Leopard.

pcorajr

Jul 25, 2009, 02:14 PM

Im digging the new Wallpapers.

InkMaster

Jul 25, 2009, 02:16 PM

Every intel mac has leopard

First of all, no, there is Tiger for Intel also. Second of all, have you read to what I was replying to? :/ Seems like everyone is taking my reply out of context without reading what the previous commenter has said :/

shaunymac

Jul 25, 2009, 02:20 PM

I agree, they are horrible. They look like stuffed animals in a museum.

I third this. I understand the whole "snow leopard" deal but some of these leopard wallpapers look like mystical fantasy posters that were left in the clearance bin.

Maybe I'll have to see it for myself when it comes out.

shaunymac

Jul 25, 2009, 02:21 PM

Oh, the only thing I do like for sure is the quicktime logo. It is pretty sweet. It is a tad overboard but I can live with it more so than some of those wallpapers.

MyDesktopBroke

Jul 25, 2009, 02:21 PM

I just downloaded The Great Wave to use as a desktop for my Macbook Pro, and now this.

markiv810

Jul 25, 2009, 02:32 PM

The Desktop background picture called Sunday Afternoon and is similar to the Vista background

avidmacuser

Jul 25, 2009, 02:48 PM

Although adding more of the nature / animal theme to mac os x, my personal preference is matching elements to compliment my mac for what it is, a sophisticated, sleek, black / aluminum, shiny, futuristic (in the here and now sense), electronic device.

Of course catering to fit the masses, I'm sure apple has done enough research to know what people want and since many nature lovers; kids; and graffiti dudes etc may be some target buyers it makes sense to please them too by offering customization (albeit seems likely to be the root theme of SL)

As I have mentioned, I like the high tech look within the os and if I wish to see some elements of nature, look at some tigers, leopards, or other animals, I'd just open up iPhoto, google it, or when time permits... just get out there ;)

rickdollar

Jul 25, 2009, 02:51 PM

It looks as though the leopard is getting crushed by a rock in one of the images. Interesting choice.

RyanR.

Jul 25, 2009, 02:56 PM

I'm still holding onto the hope that it will be the "one more thing" right before launch.

So I just downloaded several of these new wallpapers onto my 3gs. Nice. The new QT icon is also teh secks.

Marble is the highest goal of your one more thing wish list?:confused:

masse

Jul 25, 2009, 03:04 PM

How do I change to the new icon?

Thanks in advance.

Nevermind, got it.

iSimx

Jul 25, 2009, 03:09 PM

Don't know why so many people dislike the new wallpaper...

I think they're beautiful! and look great on my MacBook Pro

AidenShaw

Jul 25, 2009, 03:10 PM

It's nice to see that Apple has finally abandoned the mantra of "form over function"....

</sarcasm>

Seriously, though, it's a good sign that the builds are mainly cosmetic changes. It is pretty late in the development cycle to be fixing bugs and adding features.

On the other hand, if I had been managing the project I would have put 64-bit support at a higher priority. The idea that you don't test 64-bit on the full range until late in the testing cycle is a bit worrisome.

Tsurisuto

Jul 25, 2009, 03:18 PM

Apparently QuickTime still doesn't have any preferences, so there is no current way to get movies to auto-start when launched. :(

ivladster

Jul 25, 2009, 03:56 PM

cocky jeremy

Jul 25, 2009, 04:08 PM

I liked the purple QuickTime logo, but the blue is much better. Maybe a little lighter purple would work, but the purple was too dark, blurred the lines with the black a little too much. Either is fine with me though. Definitely an upgrade either way. I can't believe people are complaining so much about wallpapers. It's not like the ones included with OS X are the only ones you can use, get over it.

HyperZboy

Jul 25, 2009, 04:17 PM

And what will PowerPC Leopard buyers who paid $129 (same price as Intel users) get ???

Apparently nothing.

Nope, none of these Leopard bug fixes.

No Quicktime X.

Nothing.

BOOOOOOOOO APPPPPPPPPPLE! :(

PS: I smell a class action lawsuit brewing, sleazy lawyers already climbing out from under rocks!

r.j.s

Jul 25, 2009, 04:20 PM

And what will PowerPC Leopard buyers who paid $129 (same price as Intel users) get ???

You act like it is a free upgrade for Intel users ... You're not entitled to having Apple ensure your obsolete machine runs the newest software.

HyperZboy

Jul 25, 2009, 04:25 PM

You act like it is a free upgrade for Intel users ... You're not entitled to having Apple ensure your obsolete machine runs the newest software.

That's funny that your avatar matches your attitude! LOL

Since its called SNOW LEOPARD and is basically a $29 update being marketed as a BUG FIX RELEASE, I think I have a valid point.

Sorry Stewey.

PS: Oh, and my Powermac G5s are probably still more powerful than most Mac Minis and some Macbooks, not to mention they cost me significantly MORE!

Apple's gonna take some heat when Snow Leopard is released. Take note now.

All the long time Apple fanatics like me that stuck with Apple through the dark years and the PowerPC switch and kept Apple in business will be seriously pissed. Mark my words now.

Peace

Jul 25, 2009, 04:27 PM

That's funny that your avatar matches your attitude! LOL

Since its called SNOW LEOPARD and is basically a $29 update being marketed as a BUG FIX RELEASE, I think I have a valid point.

Sorry Stewey.

Can you please provide an APPLE,INC. link that markets Snow Leopard as being a bug fix release ?

Otherwise get over it.. PPC is dead.

iLloyd

Jul 25, 2009, 04:30 PM

I've been an Apple user since 1985. I love their products and their CEO is business hero of mine, which is why I'd like to make a suggestion to Apple - and every other corporation who uses big cats for marketing purposes.

Many of these species are under severe pressure, some are are on the brink of extinction (http://www.wildcatconservation.org/Big-Cats.html). If every corporation who used a big cat logo or likeness to market their product or service would make a donation to their preservation (e.g., the World Wildlife Fund's Project Tiger), then maybe future generations will be lucky enough to see them in the wild instead of stuffed in a museum.

C'mon Apple, you've been making big bucks off the big cats for years, isn't it about time you paid them some royalties?

r.j.s

Jul 25, 2009, 04:31 PM

All the long time Apple fanatics like me that stuck with Apple through the dark years and the PowerPC switch and kept Apple in business will be seriously pissed. Mark my words now.

Technology advances, old things become obsolete, get over it.

Peace

Jul 25, 2009, 04:36 PM

HyperZboy

Jul 25, 2009, 04:39 PM

Technology advances, old things become obsolete, get over it.

Abandoning Macs less than 3 years old that cost $3k will come back to haunt Apple.

Apple didn't do this with the switch to PowerPC.

This will leave a bad taste in many long time users' mouths.

Most people on here are Intel users and don't care because they don't have to. Try running a business with a mix of Intel & PowerPC machines and see if you care more huh?

PS: I've been a Mac user since 1987, I've been through multiple processor switches.

Apple is doing it wrong this time.

r.j.s

Jul 25, 2009, 04:42 PM

achtung!

Jul 25, 2009, 04:42 PM

That's funny that your avatar matches your attitude! LOL

Since its called SNOW LEOPARD and is basically a $29 update being marketed as a BUG FIX RELEASE, I think I have a valid point.

Sorry Stewey.

PS: Oh, and my Powermac G5s are probably still more powerful than most Mac Minis and some Macbooks, not to mention they cost me significantly MORE!

Apple's gonna take some heat when Snow Leopard is released. Take note now.

All the long time Apple fanatics like me that stuck with Apple through the dark years and the PowerPC switch and kept Apple in business will be seriously pissed. Mark my words now.

yes we're marking your words NOW! ...
and yes we are erasing them NOW, cause sometimes we need to "erase" the past em move on. just as apple is doing with ppc. it's the right thing to do, stopping the support of an absolete arquitecture.
if your G5 is faster than some new macs, good for you. your whinning won't do a thing, so stop complaining.
i'm a ppc user too, and i'm not pissed with anyone, 'cause i'm accepting progress peacefully. you got to live with it.

cheers.

Thunder82

Jul 25, 2009, 04:45 PM

Apple is doing it wrong this time.

I disagree, and who says snow leopard won't interface nicely with older versions of OSX?

slackpacker

Jul 25, 2009, 05:03 PM

str1f3

Jul 25, 2009, 05:11 PM

Abandoning Macs less than 3 years old that cost $3k will come back to haunt Apple.

Apple didn't do this with the switch to PowerPC.

This will leave a bad taste in many long time users' mouths.

Most people on here are Intel users and don't care because they don't have to. Try running a business with a mix of Intel & PowerPC machines and see if you care more huh?

PS: I've been a Mac user since 1987, I've been through multiple processor switches.

Apple is doing it wrong this time.

If you want to use an OS that will support old hardware forever then you should be using Windows. Your PowerPC is out of warranty which means Apple owes you nothing.

Snow Leopard is not Leopard with bug fixes. Bug fixes have continued to come in for Leopard and will for some time after Snow Leopards release. I don't know what problems you are having with it to complain. It is rock solid.

Snow Leopard is meant to be a leaner and faster OS that supports 64bit processing, multiple cores and new technologies based on Intel chips. The only way to do that is to get rid of legacy code. There would be no benefit to PowerPC users.

iOrlando

Jul 25, 2009, 05:26 PM

those are some pretty snappy wallpapers

kymac

Jul 25, 2009, 05:30 PM

not really a fan of the new quicktime icon.. i made one in black / aluminum to match the look of apples new designs and it's somewhat better in my opinion.

r.j.s

Jul 25, 2009, 05:31 PM

not really a fan of the new quicktime icon.. i made one in black / aluminum to match the look of apples new designs and it's somewhat better in my opinion.

I like that one. Nice work.

charlituna

Jul 25, 2009, 05:42 PM

where are my 'crack smoking' wallpapers. i mean if Win 7 can have them. . .

charlituna

Jul 25, 2009, 05:45 PM

Quick question: will snow leopard be a full retail operating system on the up to date disk or will it be the kind of thing where you need leopard to install snow leopard?

you must have leopard to use the $29 disk. if you don't, you can get a mac box set of the full snow leopard and the new iwork/ilife (which only work on leopard) for like $149-169.

intel systems only. no more PPC support.

these details were brought up when they announced the release month and price

as for the whole "how dare they not support PPC". Apple has been very upfront from day one of the intel systems that they would phase out support for PPC. only folks that never read the mac blogs will be in the dark over this issue. the last power macs were sold almost 3 full years ago so even with apple care they will be out of warranty. a lot of the folks using them will likely upgrade to a many times faster machine so no great issue. those that are still happily using them aren't likely to be doing any major tasks that need the kick of SL anyway.

paja

Jul 25, 2009, 06:09 PM

Abandoning Macs less than 3 years old that cost $3k will come back to haunt Apple.

Apple didn't do this with the switch to PowerPC.

This will leave a bad taste in many long time users' mouths.

Most people on here are Intel users and don't care because they don't have to. Try running a business with a mix of Intel & PowerPC machines and see if you care more huh?

PS: I've been a Mac user since 1987, I've been through multiple processor switches.

Apple is doing it wrong this time.

We feel your pain but it's time to move on. Either that or enjoy using your G5 running Leopard. It's still a very good OS and a great PPC machine that should give you several more years of faithful service.

The last PowerMac G5 was discontinued in August of 2006. Snow Leopard is shipping in September of 2009. That 3 years later. I upgrade every three years once my Applecare runs out. I then sell my old machine or hand it down.

I don't think there is a case for a class action law suit. Everyone realizes that technology moves on.

Infrared

Jul 25, 2009, 06:25 PM

It looks as though the leopard is getting crushed by a rock in one of the images. Interesting choice.

It's trying to rid itself of an irritating bug on its neck.

MacFly123

Jul 25, 2009, 06:32 PM

Kinda liked the purple Quicktime icon, fitted well with the default Leopard wallpaper.

Next: Marble.

Some of those wallpapers are horrendously ugly. :-(

Ya some of those wallpapers are pretty random and ugly for sure.

I am also sad about the QuickTime icon. The purple one was MUCH MORE SEXY and it matched the whole aurora purple theme much better! :(

I am also loosing hope for "Marble" and it is really surprising me that APPLE of all companies would let the UI design get so immensely hodege podge and miss matched now. WHAT IS GOING ON STEVE??? You are telling me that this mess of 10 different UI styles is not driving your OCD crazy even after you professed to make OS X UNIFORM with leopard? It is still FAR FROM uniform Steve! :(

Gruber

Jul 25, 2009, 06:32 PM

They should build a way to adjust the DPI setting of the screen into their OS.

I have just connected a Mac to my 30in screen. (I had to go one more time to the shop, because it needed a special extra-bulky USB powered Dual-Link adaptor, which half of the time does not wake up from sleep mode). The screen has a pretty ordinary resolution of 122 DPI. But the Mac believes that it is 72 DPI, like if it was 1984 or something. There is no way to tell it the error of its ways, and the fonts and controls are soo tiny...

OK, after googling for ages I have found that there is a way: Download the Dev Tools from ADC, and start Quartz Debug -> User Interface Resolution. Here, you can change the DPI in very crude steps. And voilá: fonts readable, controls large. But many apps (but not all of them) are slightly messed up. The Mail icon goes astray. And the worst one, believe it or not, is the Finder!

Windows got this right for several years now! Also, I have forgotten how increadibly bad fonts look without ClearType... Ugh.

BTW: I have now learned that many Apple users simply change the resolution to make the fonts larger. So instead of using their TFTs native resolution, they only use a fraction and have to put up with interpolation. Others recommend using the zoom tool a lot... :confused:

PaperMacWriter

Jul 25, 2009, 07:10 PM

It just dawned on me that this could be a hint at a possible new UI(marble or what have you). To me, I'm thinking it's just a darker aqua: aqua buttons with QTX transparent black menus. This would make aqua look new... and quite a bit better. I would love transparent menus, it could be very useful. Sorry if you've heard this a million times, but the idea just came to me. What do you think? Logical, possible, better? I think that the black/platinumish Q makes the blue aqua button pop. It feels like a new UI entirely....

SG :apple:

3587

Jul 25, 2009, 07:17 PM

I'm still waiting for some nice Apple logo specific wallpaper... Some for the iPhone as well.

iLloyd

Jul 25, 2009, 07:26 PM

What makes you think Apple doesn't do this sort of thing ?

It's not like everybody knows who Apple donates money to.

... like all good shareholders I've read their annual and environmental reports. Why should anyone who is concerned about these issues assume a company is doing the right thing. As a publicly traded corporation it's up to them to disclose their charitable donations. If they don't disclose them to their shareholders, logic dictates that we assume they don't make any.

If Apple is making an effort in this area I'll be the first to apologize in this forum for jumping to conclusions. Anyone from Apple care to comment?

LagunaSol

Jul 25, 2009, 07:37 PM

Quick Time X is 10 times worse than the previous Quick Time.

Can you qualify that?

tabasco70

Jul 25, 2009, 08:30 PM

I love those pictures of the leopard in the flurries of snow.
I remember seeing them being featured in National Geographic.
The photographer who took those photos is amazing.

Saladinos

Jul 25, 2009, 08:57 PM

- When expanding or closing a PDF document in Preview, there's an awesome little open/close animation that looks like you're opening a transparent film cover (see movie file in attached zip)

- Mouse preferences changed (see attached pic)

- I'd really like a crop feature in Quicktime X's movie recordings

reallynotnick

Jul 25, 2009, 09:05 PM

To all the PPC whiners, shut up. I understand you are pissed, I have 3 PPC computers that are used every day, but guess what? They are all still running Tiger! Really you are going to have at least another solid year of work out of your machine before anything stops supporting your machine and it will probably be 2-3 years before you run into actual trouble.
It's not like your machine is going to get slower or stop doing what it already does, sure Intel machines will get a nice boost of speed and it will probably encourage you to upgrade but Apple needs to do a little house keeping and get rid of PPC. It's sad I know, but it's all for the better, we really don't want OSX to become bloatware.
Only last month did I start using Leopard when I got my new MBP, however I plan on upgrading to Snow Leopard in September as it only cost me $10.

Mr. lax

Jul 25, 2009, 09:07 PM

I'm sure i'm not the first person to say this but... I think we just found Doc Q's new avatar

Maclver

Jul 25, 2009, 09:08 PM

SandynJosh

Jul 25, 2009, 09:15 PM

Every intel mac has leopard

nope! Wrong-o... My Intel MBP, purchased Oct 06 came with Leopard. I'm still running it that way too.

Maclver

Jul 25, 2009, 09:20 PM

nope! Wrong-o... My Intel MBP, purchased Oct 06 came with Leopard. I'm still running it that way too.

You mean Tiger?

SandynJosh

Jul 25, 2009, 09:31 PM

It looks as though the leopard is getting crushed by a rock in one of the images. Interesting choice.

It's okay. Trust me, NO leopards were harmed in making this OS. ;)

slackpacker

Jul 25, 2009, 09:32 PM

nope! Wrong-o... My Intel MBP, purchased Oct 06 came with Leopard. I'm still running it that way too.

Am I reading this wrong??

SandynJosh

Jul 25, 2009, 09:34 PM

I don't think apple cares about wallpapers. They know that the user chooses their own wallpapers especially family pictures. I am little surprised by few of them. Graffiti? Leopard Photographs? They are photographs not wallpapers. Weird act from Apple. Usually they really anal about every detail.

You got to cut them some slack... the head analist has been out sick for a while. ;)

Lokheed

Jul 25, 2009, 09:58 PM

Apple didn't do this with the switch to PowerPC. [...] Try running a business with a mix of Intel & PowerPC machines and see if you care more huh?

Let's set things straight. No one is forcing a user or a company to run SL. It is a completely optional install. Businesses that have Leopard installed can run that operating system for years to come without losing any productivity. There exists no program that solely requires SL to run. A liberal outlook may see SL only programs perhaps 6 months to a year from SL release. And those will likely be small utility apps from groups that push aesthetics (CandyBar, Coda, etc.) over functionality. Certainly not programs necessary for productivity.

Moreover, typically corporations do not adopt a new OS upon release. Most wait until one or two service releases later. Pushing the adoption date back even further. And widening the window of final PPC machine to Intel machine sold.

Users who are running PPC don't get the latest and greatest, but that's progress. You act like Apple is about to yank all PPC operating systems. All current machines running PPC will still be able to run Leopard. Even if PPC users wait until 2010 to update, doesn't put them that far back from the rest of the pack.

You yourself have said that SL is a "bug fix" release. This means the disparity between Tiger and Leopard, feature wise, will not exist or be as abundant, further strengthening Apple's decision in making the switch with SL. Should they have dropped PPC on a revolutionary, new OS (as Leopard was from Tiger), they might have upset a few more people, but to drop support in a "refinement" release will mitigate that.

In closing, Apple has always been a progressive company. If you have stuck with them for over two decades, you would know this, and you would be a little more lenient (and less critical) in their decisions. Needing to incorporate legacy support only hinders progress. While respect should be paid to the past, we needn't live there forever...

Krafty

Jul 25, 2009, 10:02 PM

not really a fan of the new quicktime icon.. i made one in black / aluminum to match the look of apples new designs and it's somewhat better in my opinion.
Can you put it in icns format?

kymac

Jul 25, 2009, 10:27 PM

Can you put it in icns format?

sure.. but how do i do that?

iMaggot

Jul 25, 2009, 10:32 PM

Dude i can't wait :cool:

fry3k

Jul 25, 2009, 11:25 PM

Quick question: will snow leopard be a full retail operating system on the up to date disk or will it be the kind of thing where you need leopard to install snow leopard?

Didn't read the 6 pages of replies to see if this was fully answered, but this is direct from the SL website:

How to get Mac OS X
Snow Leopard.

Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard will be available in September 2009. Here’s how to get it.

With every new Mac.
When it’s released, every new Mac computer will come with Mac OS X Snow Leopard already installed. You won’t need to do anything.

Snow Leopard Up-to-Date Program.
If you purchased a qualifying Mac on or after June 8, 2009, that does not include Mac OS X Snow Leopard, you can upgrade for $9.95.
Learn more

Upgrading from Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard.
If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard, just purchase Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard when it’s available and follow the simple installation instructions.

Upgrading from Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger.
If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger, purchase the Mac Box Set (when available), which is a single, affordable package that includes Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard; iLife ’09, with the latest versions of iPhoto, iMovie, GarageBand, iWeb, and iDVD; and iWork ’09, Apple’s productivity suite for home and office including Pages, Numbers, and Keynote.

queshy

Jul 25, 2009, 11:50 PM

Looks like things are starting to wrap up! Can't wait to get it when it comes out. Will preorder just like I did with Leopard!

coolbreeze

Jul 25, 2009, 11:50 PM

I don't think apple cares about wallpapers. They know that the user chooses their own wallpapers especially family pictures. I am little surprised by few of them. Graffiti? Leopard Photographs? They are photographs not wallpapers. Weird act from Apple. Usually they really anal about every detail.

Totally agree. I saw these images as was like "O RLY, what happened to AAPL?"

These wallpapers are way different than anything they've ever put out. Is it because Jobs is gone? (cat's away, the mouse will play?) :confused:

SkippyThorson

Jul 26, 2009, 12:09 AM

Not liking the Gangsta-papers at all...

toddp73

Jul 26, 2009, 01:41 AM

Has anyone noticed that the GM Goodwrench symbol looks like quicktime's logo

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z256/OSXnerd/images.jpg http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z256/OSXnerd/images-1.jpg

lol
I saw the ad on T.V., for goodwrench and thought the SAME thing LOL! I just looked up Goodwrench history, and that logo is the newest, so technically Goodwrench copied apple.

toddp73

Jul 26, 2009, 01:53 AM

LOL I Just had to pull out photoshop:) This is the first thing I thaught of when I saw the blood!
http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af40/toddp73/th_Snow-Leopard-1.jpg (http://s991.photobucket.com/albums/af40/toddp73/?action=view&current=Snow-Leopard-1.jpg)

Jigsawjammer

Jul 26, 2009, 01:54 AM

Didn't read the 6 pages of replies to see if this was fully answered, but this is direct from the SL website:

Upgrading from Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger.
If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger, purchase the Mac Box Set (when available), which is a single, affordable package that includes Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard; iLife ’09, with the latest versions of iPhoto, iMovie, GarageBand, iWeb, and iDVD; and iWork ’09, Apple’s productivity suite for home and office including Pages, Numbers, and Keynote.

the box set implies that you can go from tiger to snow- but I guess what people say is that the uptodate disk will need leopard installed to upgrade you.
That doesn't say you will get leopard as well in that Mac Box set package to install snow so does that mean that retail disk will be a beefy version of snow to accomadate for the lack of leopard preinstalled?

ChazUK

Jul 26, 2009, 01:54 AM

I'm really looking forward to Snow Leopard. Thanks for everyone sharing the wallpapers and login icons from it!:D

BTW

Jul 26, 2009, 02:20 AM

Snow Leopard is going to kick some Windows 7 butt! Can't wait, but unfortunately I must. :cool:

Krafty

Jul 26, 2009, 02:20 AM

sure.. but how do i do that?
I dont know, i was asking you.

Macintosh Sauce

Jul 26, 2009, 03:02 AM

Thanks to the kind people that posted the new Desktop pics. Love them!

InkMaster

Jul 26, 2009, 03:25 AM

Thanks to the kind people that posted the new Desktop pics. Love them!

Enjoy ^_^

MorphingDragon

Jul 26, 2009, 03:33 AM

TBH, I think the Logo is for Quicktime Server for Snow Leopard Server. Snow Leopard already takes a lot of Queues from Leopard and there is already a Purple Nebula Design for Snow Leopard.

SeaFox

Jul 26, 2009, 03:41 AM

Finally new wallpaper!!! thank you apple! :apple: :D

Yes, that $30 will be so worth it!!!!1111one

MartiNZ

Jul 26, 2009, 03:42 AM

I saw the ad on T.V., for goodwrench and thought the SAME thing LOL! I just looked up Goodwrench history, and that logo is the newest, so technically Goodwrench copied apple.

Interesting stuff. Also interesting that with the new icon Apple is moving the 'hand' to face to ~4:30 along with the Q strikethrough, rather than facing ~1:30. Subtle, but interesting, and maybe just maybe something to do with it?

Daim

Jul 26, 2009, 03:49 AM

the windows 7 wallpapers are better.

BRLawyer

Jul 26, 2009, 05:07 AM

the windows 7 wallpapers are better.

Thank you for your enlightening comment. Now should I buy Windows 7 or what?

irishgrizzly

Jul 26, 2009, 05:08 AM

Let's set things straight.
– snip –

Good points Locheed. some people act like there mac will combust on the release day of an incompatible new OS.

On the quicktime icon – I agree with those that have called it ugly.

OllyW

Jul 26, 2009, 05:10 AM

Thank you for your enlightening comment. Now should I buy Windows 7 or what?

No need, you can download them here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/embee/sets/72157617274401628/). ;)

Shasterball

Jul 26, 2009, 05:36 AM

I'm more excited about Snow Leopard than I was for Leopard!!!

CTU Kyoto

Jul 26, 2009, 05:37 AM

I don't mind the new wallpapers. They seem to have taken a cue from the iPhone's collection of pictures by having a fine art section and some more abstract ones. As someone who's often used some fairly crummy JPGs of famous paintings, it's nice to see high-quality versions of Starry Night et al.

Even the graffiti ones, which I would never set as my own wallpaper, will certainly look striking on iMac screens in Apple Stores. I have one major gripe though - am I imagining things or do all three graffiti wallpapers have visible camera flash reflections??? On the far left of the blue one, middle-right of the pink one and lower-left of the red one... This is not very Apple at all!

kyncaith

Jul 26, 2009, 06:05 AM

not really a fan of the new quicktime icon.. i made one in black / aluminum to match the look of apples new designs and it's somewhat better in my opinion.

Thanks for the pic. I turned it into an icns file (attached as a zip).

iSimx

Jul 26, 2009, 06:24 AM

II have one major gripe though - am I imagining things or do all three graffiti wallpapers have visible camera flash reflections??? On the far left of the blue one, middle-right of the pink one and lower-left of the red one... This is not very Apple at all!

At first I thought it was a camera flash reflection but looking at it closer, it's just a white dot on the wall lol... on all three.

and I totally agree about the graffiti wallpapers looking striking on the mac screens in the apple store.

alabanco

Jul 26, 2009, 07:08 AM

What about things that are more important than just walls ?
Speaking about work enhancements

My interests are:

Will Preview in SL finally scroll next images without choosing them all beforehand ?

Will dictionary in SL have an option to have quick view of a word translation or some article about it ?

iMcLovin

Jul 26, 2009, 07:24 AM

I think the new Quicktime icon is fine....and so was the previous one. WHat I don´t understand is why they change a perfectly fine icon (which actually has a brand value) when they could have changed the iTunes icon, because that icon is dead boring and don´t tell much about the program....it reminds me of those general icons you can pick from in any windows package or any free icon packages for download. ( a cd with a note on, a cd with a globe on, a cd with a camera on, a cd with a arrow on, etc....) - too standard and generic.

oh and yeah, those new wallpapers are horrible, I though Apple had more taste than that, they got one of the worlds best marketing/visual departments for christ sake.

Stella

Jul 26, 2009, 07:45 AM

Nice new QT icon.. but it is just an icon. Nothing to get too excited about!

Maserati7200

Jul 26, 2009, 08:13 AM

Can someone make me a an icns file like the original Quick Time X icon except change purple to red?

BornToMac

Jul 26, 2009, 08:35 AM

Great minds think alike. I have had 3 of those wallpapers in my rotation for some time (total coincidence) and have another 3-4 that are close ups of grafitti.

kyncaith

Jul 26, 2009, 08:57 AM

Can someone make me a an icns file like the original Quick Time X icon except change purple to red?

Like this?

(icns file is in zipped attachment)

DigitalJedi

Jul 26, 2009, 09:08 AM

We are all aware the the links for the desktop pictures are broken right?

viperguy

Jul 26, 2009, 09:20 AM

And I thought Uneasysilence was dead long ago..

TheSlush

Jul 26, 2009, 09:40 AM

QuickTime X used to be pink and now it's blue. His-and-hers icons??

Lounge Deluxe

Jul 26, 2009, 10:05 AM

I'd like to see the blue version of the current standard desktop picture (purple space scenery). I thought it's included with the server version of SL but I'm not sure.

Can someone upload that SL server picture? I saw it once and it looked quite pretty to me.

Koyder

Jul 26, 2009, 10:12 AM

Found with Google:

http://subuddha.deviantart.com/art/Snow-Leopard-Server-Wallpaper-126241769

kyncaith

Jul 26, 2009, 10:22 AM

acxz

Jul 26, 2009, 10:34 AM

Here's a 2560 x 1600 one.

Is that not the Leopard server wallpaper?

elgrecomac

Jul 26, 2009, 10:35 AM

WeegieMac

Jul 26, 2009, 11:07 AM

Sorry, but aside from the official Snow Leopard "Aurora" and the WWDC "Snow Leopard", there's some pretty poor wallpapers in there.

:(

kyncaith

Jul 26, 2009, 11:17 AM

Is that not the Leopard server wallpaper?

Yes it is. He/she mentioned the blue server version of the standard purple space scene in the first sentence. I kind of glossed over the SL reference.

Derrick Velasco

Jul 26, 2009, 11:32 AM

I love the wallpapers. Look forward to getting them in SL.

kyncaith

Jul 26, 2009, 11:34 AM

Getting excited about 'WALLPAPER' and change in icons? Really? Really? Of course your not serious, are you?

Folks, it all about features and functionality, not pretty pictures that are readily available on 'the Google'.

Pleez.....:eek:

Personally, I'm not particularly excited yet about anything regarding Snow Leopard, aesthetics or features wise.

You certainly seem to be getting excited about a trivial forum discussion though. And I find it humorous that you feel that you can dictate to others what it's "all about".

shaunymac

Jul 26, 2009, 11:34 AM

I'm more excited about Snow Leopard than I was for Leopard!!!

I think I'm just excited to see what kind of speed it may bring. I'm all about lean. We shall see.

happydude

Jul 26, 2009, 11:59 AM

Nice new QT icon.. but it is just an icon. Nothing to get too excited about!

amazing what generates a lot of buzz in the ol' rumors site.

AL3

Jul 26, 2009, 12:07 PM

Hi!
I'm not sure if this has already been posted, but is there somewhere I can find the old (ok, not so old) purple Quick Time X icon?
http://www.grabup.com/uploads/ddd35fef6a2e38779f1f951c33554200.jpg
(I mean the .icns file)

Thanks a lot!!

rtheb

Jul 26, 2009, 12:31 PM

mklos

Jul 26, 2009, 01:08 PM

Why does Apple always have such ****** desktop backgrounds? Thats one thing Windows 7 has. However, I'll take an OS that works over good desktop backgrounds any day of the week. I can always steal the desktop backgrounds from Windows 7.

elgrecomac

Jul 26, 2009, 01:24 PM

Personally, I'm not particularly excited yet about anything regarding Snow Leopard, aesthetics or features wise.

You certainly seem to be getting excited about a trivial forum discussion though. And I find it humorous that you feel that you can dictate to others what it's "all about".

in the Mac OS forum I did weigh in on the OS, and like you, am less than excited. I used, as a reference, the list of 10.6 improvements and the bulk of the improvements are internal and future oriented, not a significant change in the user experience. I was the person who coined the term "Snore Leopard" and took a massive amount of fecal material for it.

So seeing the lead thread on this forum talking about avatars and wallpaper just set me off. Its about features and functionality, not fluff.

HyperZboy

Jul 26, 2009, 01:47 PM

Mainyehc

Jul 26, 2009, 02:02 PM

Snow Leopard is meant to be a leaner and faster OS that supports 64bit processing, multiple cores and new technologies based on Intel chips. The only way to do that is to get rid of legacy code. There would be no benefit to PowerPC users.

Last time I checked, my iMac's G5 processor was 64-bit... As are those found in later dual single-core, single dual-core and dual dual-core (quad-core) PowerMac G5s. And as for the GPUs, PowerMacs were also compatible with a fair share of high-end offerings...

So, tell us again why there would be no benefit to PowerPC G5 users in providing them with the latest advancements in 64-bit optimizaton and OpenCL/GCD? Are you sure you weren't talking about Apple itself, instead? Well, waddyaknow, they even get to save in developing costs while driving (or trying to) Mac Pro and iMac sales up (unless those users aren't dependent upon OS-X or OS X-only apps, that is, in which case they may as well jump ship and buy PCs the next time around)...

Personally, I'm not mad at Apple because my nearly 5-year-old 20'' Rev. A iMac, while defective and noisy, served me well since I bought it and is reaching the end of its usable life anyway, prompting its imminent replacement with, I hope, a bigger Intel-based 24''er running SL. However, if I had a room filled with Quad G5 PowerMacs, I would be pissed as hell.

Oh, and on a on-topic sidenote, has anyone noticed yet how the "pinstripe" and "tye-dye" wallpapers (especially the latter) are rather blatantly 'shopped?

stellarceltic

Jul 26, 2009, 02:32 PM

The problem I have with Snow Leopard is it's basically a BUG-FIX release for $29!

[citation needed]

rimbdizz

Jul 26, 2009, 02:48 PM

haha the bottom right wallpaper is in a family guy episode. Way to go apple.

simonshek

Jul 26, 2009, 02:54 PM

kymac

Jul 26, 2009, 03:06 PM

The problem I have with Snow Leopard is it's basically a BUG-FIX release for $29!

false.

However it's NOT AVAILABLE to some people who paid $129 for Leopard!

The problem is PowerPC users who pay $129 for Leopard today or paid the day before Snow Leopard was even announced, little over a year ago, will NEVER GET THOSE BUG FIXES!

well.. i paid 129 for tiger.. and will now have to pay 129 for snow leopard. please add that to your bold and centered complaints. thanks!

also.. snow leopards and leopards aren't exactly directly related in the real world. so i'm not sure you why you think your 'bug fix' obsession is valid.

iBug2

Jul 26, 2009, 03:13 PM

The problem I have with Snow Leopard is it's basically a BUG-FIX release for $29!

Ofc this is wrong. It probably will be more buggy than Leopard in the first several releases.

It's a step-release to make people switch to 64 bit capable machines for the next big thing. It's practically an advanced Leopard so every program that runs on SL will continue to run on Leopard as well, so nobody actually needs SL. But once everyone makes the switch to 64 bit then nobody will be left behind on new features coming in 10.7.

charlituna

Jul 26, 2009, 03:52 PM

nope! Wrong-o... My Intel MBP, purchased Oct 06 came with Leopard. I'm still running it that way too.

nifty trick since Leopard came out in Oct 2007.

BRLawyer

Jul 26, 2009, 03:52 PM

false.

It's not only false...it's ABSOLUTELY false. I have virtually no bugs in Leopard; it's as rock-solid as a good OS can be.

henrystar

Jul 26, 2009, 03:54 PM

I am absolutely DESPERATE to get Snow Leopard. TIme Machine is a dreadful monster. I want it to STOP BUGGING ME.

charlituna

Jul 26, 2009, 03:56 PM

Thank you for your enlightening comment. Now should I buy Windows 7 or what?

or just google and download them from the vast number of blogs that pulled them out of the betas and posted them.

The problem I have with Snow Leopard is it's basically a BUG-FIX release for $29!

However it's NOT AVAILABLE to some people who paid $129 for Leopard!

to call it a 'bug fix' is false. it is an enhancement. and those enhancements require an Intel processor. so those PPC users won't be paying anything for enhancements that won't work on their machines.

as for the rest. would you rather they went back to the old pricing which was no discount unless you bought a brand new machine in between the announcement and the release. because that is the other option. one that many of us even with Intel processors have dealt with before.

The problem is PowerPC users who pay $129 for Leopard today or paid the day before Snow Leopard was even announced, little over a year ago, will NEVER GET THOSE BUG FIXES!

no they won't. because the upgrades don't work on PPC computers.

fact is that by the time Snow Leopard is released, 99.9% of PPC computers will be out of warranty. and the cost of any major repairs will be more than just buying a new computer. if you can even find anyone that does repairs on systems that old. so then you buy a new computer that comes with Snow Leopard installed.

I dunno, but clearly Apple has made a bad decision in one way or another on this.

sorry but you are going to find a lot of disagreement on that. PPC processors are gone and buried. they are a quickly dying breed. many major 3rd party softwares from shops like Adobe, Avid etc are spec'd out to a point that you can barely use a PPC computer anymore if at all. You have to have Intel. And that is just going to continue and get worse.

Apple made it clear from the start that PPC support would not be eternal, it was being phased out. anyone that is crying foul about this Snow Leopard upgrade hasn't been listening. and should check their specs and go buy Leopard now if they want it that bad

simonshek

Jul 26, 2009, 03:58 PM

I am absolutely DESPERATE to get Snow Leopard. TIme Machine is a dreadful monster. I want it to STOP BUGGING ME.there is an option that you can turn it off. ........

BRLawyer

Jul 26, 2009, 04:21 PM

I am absolutely DESPERATE to get Snow Leopard. TIme Machine is a dreadful monster. I want it to STOP BUGGING ME.

And I have ZERO problems with it. It's a flawless backup solution for me...so much so that I don't even remember having it.

str1f3

Jul 26, 2009, 04:26 PM

Last time I checked, my iMac's G5 processor was 64-bit... As are those found in later dual single-core, single dual-core and dual dual-core (quad-core) PowerMac G5s. And as for the GPUs, PowerMacs were also compatible with a fair share of high-end offerings...

So, tell us again why there would be no benefit to PowerPC G5 users in providing them with the latest advancements in 64-bit optimizaton and OpenCL/GCD? Are you sure you weren't talking about Apple itself, instead? Well, waddyaknow, they even get to save in developing costs while driving (or trying to) Mac Pro and iMac sales up (unless those users aren't dependent upon OS-X or OS X-only apps, that is, in which case they may as well jump ship and buy PCs the next time around)...

Personally, I'm not mad at Apple because my nearly 5-year-old 20'' Rev. A iMac, while defective and noisy, served me well since I bought it and is reaching the end of its usable life anyway, prompting its imminent replacement with, I hope, a bigger Intel-based 24''er running SL. However, if I had a room filled with Quad G5 PowerMacs, I would be pissed as hell.

Oh, and on a on-topic sidenote, has anyone noticed yet how the "pinstripe" and "tye-dye" wallpapers (especially the latter) are rather blatantly 'shopped?

Snow Leopard is meant to take advantage of the Intel architecture. If they had to code for Power PC (including all the new technologies) as well how long will would have SL taken to be released? As for those who brought G5's, you are now out of warranty. It would be ridiculous for Apple to support hardware that is now out of date and that they no longer have to repair. You still have a good computer running an excellent OS. If you have enough money to spend the large sum on a desktop you should still also be able to purchase one every three to four years otherwise you are fiscally irresponsible.

As for that room full of G5's, those kind of places only care if Final Cut Studio, Logic Pro and the latest CS still run on their hardware. They're not looking for the latest and greatest. Otherwise they would upgraded their hardware as well.

LagunaSol

Jul 26, 2009, 04:30 PM

nifty trick since Leopard came out in Oct 2007.

I think he used the Time Machine feature. ;)

LagunaSol

Jul 26, 2009, 04:32 PM

And I have ZERO problems with it. It's a flawless backup solution for me...so much so that I don't even remember having it.

I agree. What could possibly be problematic about Time Machine? It only bugs me if my backup drive is full or powered off (which is to say, never). :confused:

mbprouser

Jul 26, 2009, 04:33 PM

I'm waiting to hear the uproar about Final Cut Studio being Intel only. It was only a matter of time before Mac OS X was that way, and Apple has to start somewhere. Considering it's been 3.5 years since the first Intel Macs hit the market, I'm not surprised that 10.6 is dropping PPC support. Even Steve Jobs himself said that 10.6 was going to be a refinement on the OS and will pave the way for future versions of Mac OS X.

PPC is dead. Get over it and move on. Your computer will not stop working the minute SL is released. In fact, I'm willing to bet that Apple will still support 10.5 with security updates and such just like they are with 10.4 and 10.5.

zotter

Jul 26, 2009, 04:37 PM

Which OpenGL version is supported? 3.1 or 3.0?

Check http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/download.html

I WAS the one

Jul 26, 2009, 04:40 PM

it seems Apple wont do more critical changings that means more time to enhance the GUI and a few new treats! YEAH!

mklos

Jul 26, 2009, 04:50 PM

The problem I have with Snow Leopard is it's basically a BUG-FIX release for $29!

However it's NOT AVAILABLE to some people who paid $129 for Leopard!

The problem is PowerPC users who pay $129 for Leopard today or paid the day before Snow Leopard was even announced, little over a year ago, will NEVER GET THOSE BUG FIXES!

Maybe if the damn thing were called something different or was a real completely different operating system release, it wouldn't piss off PowerPC users so much.
I dunno, but clearly Apple has made a bad decision in one way or another on this.
I've been a Mac user since 1987 & an Apple user since 1983 and have even gone through the Apple II to Motorola to the PowerPC transition and this is just clearly bad marketing if not worse IMHO.

That in a nut shell is why Apple is doing it WRONG this time.

Leopard was released nearly 2yrs ago. The OS is typically updated every 18-24 months. So nothing has changed here.

What exactly are the "BUGS" in Leopard? Leopard is a pretty bug free OS. If it was full of bugs, it would be a hell of a lot upper in the numbering system than 10.5.7. It would be up around 10.5.10. There's no such thing as a perfect OS with 0 bugs. EVERY OS has little bugs here and there and always will have.

You need to go back and read what Snow Leopard offers. There really isn't any so called bug fixes included, but rather additions to the OS. You know, like every major OS update has. There just isn't as many of them so Apple feels its not worth charging $129 for everyone to get these few updates. But at the same time, its large enough to where its not just a dot dot update (like 10.5.x) for it to be free.

This isn't like Windows 7. This is an entirely different thing here.

it seems Apple wont do more critical changings that means more time to enhance the GUI and a few new treats! YEAH!

Apple is done with new features and changes. All they're doing now are simple enhancements and bug fixes to the WWDC release this past June. So no GUI changes or anything like that will be seen in this release. I don't consider icon changes, GUI changes.

Lokheed

Jul 26, 2009, 04:52 PM

The problem I have with Snow Leopard...

Stop trolling. And you guys, stop feeding the trolls! Same argument on page 4... No coherent argument means no point in arguing...

slackpacker

Jul 26, 2009, 05:09 PM

Stop trolling. And you guys, stop feeding the trolls! Same argument on page 4... No coherent argument means no point in arguing...

Trolls are a funny breed aren't they

charlituna

Jul 26, 2009, 06:07 PM

I'm waiting to hear the uproar about Final Cut Studio being Intel only.

given that I pay attention when announcements are made, I was expecting that any upgrades would be intel only since imovie went that way with ilife '08. if they would do that to the 'consumer' program of course they would to the pro program. double since I was paying attention to the announcement that SL would be intel only.

my only surprise was that they released Final Cut now instead of a huge software blow out in Sept. New OS, all new pro apps (someone please update aperture and shake stat)

so now I"m watching for the rumors that new imacs and pro towers with built in blu-ray will be released in the fall since Final Cut now has blu-ray support. I give it another day, two tops for the first 'announcements'

jcrowe

Jul 26, 2009, 06:59 PM

given that I pay attention when announcements are made, I was expecting that any upgrades would be intel only since imovie went that way with ilife '08. if they would do that to the 'consumer' program of course they would to the pro program. double since I was paying attention to the announcement that SL would be intel only.

Except that iLife 08 was not Intel only...perhaps you meant to iLife 09...it does not require an Intel CPU either for most functionality. Those of us who still use G5 based Macs can look forward to years more of usefulness. Those of us who own Macs based on both architectures can benefit from stability of existing OSs, and more advanced technology on the current generation of CPUs from Intel.

my only surprise was that they released Final Cut now instead of a huge software blow out in Sept. New OS, all new pro apps (someone please update aperture and shake stat)

so now I"m watching for the rumors that new imacs and pro towers with built in blu-ray will be released in the fall since Final Cut now has blu-ray support. I give it another day, two tops for the first 'announcements'

And yet, there's not a compelling reason for Macs to come with Blu-Ray as anything other than a BTO option. I'd prefer to see a 28" iMac with a quad-core processor and 8GByte memory options. That would make for a nice consumer level video production environment.

Maserati7200

Jul 26, 2009, 07:34 PM

given that I pay attention when announcements are made, I was expecting that any upgrades would be intel only since imovie went that way with ilife '08.

Eh, not really. I'm running iLife 08 on my iMac G5, albeit it runs slower than on my MacBook

Maserati7200

Jul 26, 2009, 07:35 PM

Like this?
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=185065&d=1248616580

(icns file is in zipped attachment)

That's nice, but I was looking for a more deep red like this

twoodcc

Jul 26, 2009, 07:53 PM

nice. i need to download and install this soon

coolfactor

Jul 26, 2009, 08:15 PM

Some of those wallpapers are horrendously ugly. :-(

Wow, strong opinion. Shame. They are broadening their palette for a wider userbase. I think there's been too little variation for wallpapers in past versions of OS X, and this adds a little colour. Rather than dwell on the negative, why don't you offer up a "solution" to the problem before your eyes?

AL3

Jul 26, 2009, 08:37 PM

http://r34n1m4t3d.deviantart.com/art/QUICKTIME-X-125339621

thanks a lot, that's what I was talking about. However I think this icon is a bit different from Apple's.. at least looking at the little icon in SL's page.

I tried to modify the blue one to make it look more or less like the old purple one, IMHO I think it looks pretty similar :)
Check it out!

http://www.grabup.com/uploads/5c372eb85c7d00235582bb7da267d48d.jpg

if anyone wants it I can upload the .icns file

vohdoun

Jul 26, 2009, 08:59 PM

I honestly thought a lot of Apple people had higher standards than this. I guess not when it comes to icons.

That icon is worse than Vista's (Win7 icons rebadged).

To some degree people will eventually ditch these wallpapers when the time comes. It's just the hype because they are new.

kymac

Jul 26, 2009, 09:56 PM

That's nice, but I was looking for a more deep red like this

clearly the other poster doesn't know the color red :rolleyes:

arkmannj

Jul 26, 2009, 10:23 PM

Next: Marble.

And a G5 laptop

PaperMacWriter

Jul 26, 2009, 11:17 PM

clearly the other poster doesn't know the color red :rolleyes:

OMIGOD!!! It's HAL9000!!! I'd be leery watching 2001: A Space Oddesy if that was my logo...:p

charlituna

Jul 26, 2009, 11:20 PM

And yet, there's not a compelling reason for Macs to come with Blu-Ray as anything other than a BTO option.

not according to the more vocal posters on sites like this. they are screaming that Macs should have been the first, not the last, to have blu-ray burners (not just players) in all the machines. that it is a travesty that it's not there, that Steve Jobs is a moron for bashing blu-ray cause it is THE future, blah blah.

SkippyThorson

Jul 26, 2009, 11:43 PM

you must have leopard to use the $29 disk. if you don't, you can get a mac box set of the full snow leopard and the new iwork/ilife (which only work on leopard) for like $149-169.

intel systems only. no more PPC support.

these details were brought up when they announced the release month and price

as for the whole "how dare they not support PPC". Apple has been very upfront from day one of the intel systems that they would phase out support for PPC. only folks that never read the mac blogs will be in the dark over this issue. the last power macs were sold almost 3 full years ago so even with apple care they will be out of warranty. a lot of the folks using them will likely upgrade to a many times faster machine so no great issue. those that are still happily using them aren't likely to be doing any major tasks that need the kick of SL anyway.

LET ME TELL YOU ALL SOMETHING...

As a PPC user only, truer words have never been said in this thread, and probably won't again.

I have an iBook G4 and an iMac G4. I love them both, and they both work just fine, and they both do everything I ask of them, which is everything I need from my computers. I do not expect my Tiger and Leopard machines to get special treatment. I knew that buying them, and I know that now.

I spent a lot of time debating whether or not I should buy that iMac. I bought it in the end because it was what I wanted. I did not and do not expect what I want to be what everyone should have. People NEED to realize that the same is true for everything that everyone owns. Those that can't come to terms need to grow up quickly, or if not, just leave the rest of us that did alone.

Stop complaining. Snow Leopard is dropping PowerPC. It is NOT the end of the world. Things change. That's life. Deal with it. Just. Deal.

Quillz

Jul 26, 2009, 11:56 PM

Thank you for your enlightening comment. Now should I buy Windows 7 or what?
It's call an opinion. Believe it or not, some people do prefer certain elements of Windows.

miiles

Jul 26, 2009, 11:58 PM

I like those new backgrounds, and the logo. Good work Apple.

NT1440

Jul 26, 2009, 11:59 PM

Steve Jobs is a moron for bashing blu-ray cause it is THE future, blah blah.

You really know who the morons are? The people that take half truths and spin them to fit their agenda. Steve never talked crap about bluray, he merely said licensing for bluray was a bitch (which at the time was true, involving many different agreements from all over the place, apparantly know its simpler). But hey if you wanna go and twist words, be my guest.

Quillz

Jul 26, 2009, 11:59 PM

It's not only false...it's ABSOLUTELY false. I have virtually no bugs in Leopard; it's as rock-solid as a good OS can be.
Leopard is very good and stable for the vast majority of people, but to say it's not without flaws or issues for some is what's absolutely false here.

As usual, the vocal minority tends to speak for everyone, but there were some well-documented issues that plagued Leopard, although most have been fixed now.

Quillz

Jul 27, 2009, 12:00 AM

You really know who the morons are? The people that take half truths and spin them to fit their agenda. Steve never talked crap about bluray, he merely said licensing for bluray was a bitch (which at the time was true, involving many different agreements from all over the place, apparantly know its simpler). But hey if you wanna go and twist words, be my guest.
Maybe he never "talked crap" about Blu-ray, but he did refer to the licensing as a "bag of hurt," which is a pretty vocal way of showing disapproval for the format.

And the fact that Apple still seems to operate on the whim of Steve Jobs is a pretty clear indication that Blu-ray support won't be coming on any Apple machines for quite a long time.

NT1440

Jul 27, 2009, 12:01 AM

Leopard is very good and stable for the vast majority of people, but to say it's not without flaws or issues for some is what's absolutely false here.

As usual, the vocal minority tends to speak for everyone, but there were some well-documented issues that plagued Leopard, although most have been fixed now.

Agreed. Apparently Leopard still has several annoying issues such as unexpected wake ups, wifi dropouts, bluetooth connectivity issues, etc etc.

Quillz

Jul 27, 2009, 12:02 AM

And I have ZERO problems with it. It's a flawless backup solution for me...so much so that I don't even remember having it.
Again, just because you (and me) have no issues with Time Machine doesn't mean that others won't, or at least finding it annoying.

I know we'd all like to think Apple makes perfect software, but they don't. No one does. It's not a perfect world.

sammy2066

Jul 27, 2009, 12:02 AM

The amount of discussion a simple new icon, a few new avatars and a bunch of new wallpapers garners on MR is simply phenomenal. No wonder Apple's doing so well. :D

NT1440

Jul 27, 2009, 12:03 AM

Maybe he never "talked crap" about Blu-ray, but he did refer to the licensing as a "bag of hurt," which is a pretty vocal way of showing disapproval for the format.
.

That to me says exactly what it sounds like, "licensing is a bag of hurt" were his exact words if im not mistaken. Doesn't sound a damn thing close to "bluray is a bad media" to me.

Quillz

Jul 27, 2009, 12:16 AM

That to me says exactly what it sounds like, "licensing is a bag of hurt" were his exact words if im not mistaken. Doesn't sound a damn thing close to "bluray is a bad media" to me.
No, although naturally the format could be better w/o such licensing issues.

NT1440

Jul 27, 2009, 12:18 AM

No, although naturally the format could be better w/o such licensing issues.

I beleive that fairly recently a one stop authority was set up by everyone involved in bluray to simplify the process, I remember reading something to that nature.

I do remember reading quite a while ago that originally to use bluray you had to deal with over a dozen different companies.

I just wish I could remember WHERE I read all of this.:(

Maserati7200

Jul 27, 2009, 12:38 AM

clearly the other poster doesn't know the color red :rolleyes:

Thats perfect except make the outside black instead of silver

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=185157&d=1248663537

Bodypainter

Jul 27, 2009, 01:27 AM

:apple: :apple: :apple: i can't beliee how you all like these desktop backgrounds! they are absolutely ugly! if microsoft had used them for windows 7 everyone would have complained about their color or the fact that a desktopbackground should not be a "perfectly sharp picture" (for example of a snow leopard) with bright colors, but a relaxing, probably blurry picture on which you can find your icons - once you placed them there... sorry, but these desktopbackgrounds are not apples taste or style. they are just cheap, ugly and tasteless!!! :apple: :apple: :apple:

xIGmanIx

Jul 27, 2009, 02:05 AM

hard hitting stuff, i can see why its on the front page:rolleyes:

HyperZboy

Jul 27, 2009, 02:19 AM

Last time I checked, my iMac's G5 processor was 64-bit... As are those found in later dual single-core, single dual-core and dual dual-core (quad-core) PowerMac G5s. And as for the GPUs, PowerMacs were also compatible with a fair share of high-end offerings...

So, tell us again why there would be no benefit to PowerPC G5 users in providing them with the latest advancements in 64-bit optimizaton and OpenCL/GCD? Are you sure you weren't talking about Apple itself, instead? Well, waddyaknow, they even get to save in developing costs while driving (or trying to) Mac Pro and iMac sales up (unless those users aren't dependent upon OS-X or OS X-only apps, that is, in which case they may as well jump ship and buy PCs the next time around)...

Personally, I'm not mad at Apple because my nearly 5-year-old 20'' Rev. A iMac, while defective and noisy, served me well since I bought it and is reaching the end of its usable life anyway, prompting its imminent replacement with, I hope, a bigger Intel-based 24''er running SL. However, if I had a room filled with Quad G5 PowerMacs, I would be pissed as hell.

You said what I wanted to say better than I did.

If I had just one PowerPC Mac and one $129 Leopard purchase, I'd not be mad at dropping PowerPC support. I think Apple is making a mistake though with its best customers as this notion that G5s don't support any of Snow Leopard's features is blatantly false as are the notions that Snow Leopard is a completely new operating system.

It's NOT a new operating system! It's a major bug fix release!

Think Windows Service pack. That would be a very good description of Snow Leopard.

Why else would it be just $29?

Even by Apple's own descriptions of Snow Leopard, you'd be hard pressed to state a technical reason why they couldn't just as easily be implemented on a dual processor G5. And some fixes would probably help even on a G4!

Onto my last point... Why do silly Fanboys shout TROLL every time someone criticizes Apple?

I've used Apple computers since before half the people here who shout TROLL were BORN! LOL

Michaelgtrusa

Jul 27, 2009, 02:37 AM

Can someone please upload the new blue icon?

iBug2

Jul 27, 2009, 03:09 AM

You said what I wanted to say better than I did.

If I had just one PowerPC Mac and one $129 Leopard purchase, I'd not be mad at dropping PowerPC support. I think Apple is making a mistake though with its best customers as this notion that G5s don't support any of Snow Leopard's features is blatantly false as are the notions that Snow Leopard is a completely new operating system.

It's NOT a new operating system! It's a major bug fix release!

Think Windows Service pack. That would be a very good description of Snow Leopard.

Why else would it be just $29?

Even by Apple's own descriptions of Snow Leopard, you'd be hard pressed to state a technical reason why they couldn't just as easily be implemented on a dual processor G5. And some fixes would probably help even on a G4!

Onto my last point... Why do silly Fanboys shout TROLL every time someone criticizes Apple?

I've used Apple computers since before half the people here who shout TROLL were BORN! LOL

It's not like a windows service pack. 10.5.7 is a service pack. No windows service pack brings that many under the hood changes.

And no, G5's are 64 bit processors but no G5 equipped machines are capable of running 64 bit kernel and no G5 equipped machines include GPU's which Open CL supports. So no, G5's wouldn't benefit much from SL, only from GCD.

mudenza

Jul 27, 2009, 03:57 AM

Only thing I see of SL news is Quicktime. Right.

InkMaster

Jul 27, 2009, 05:25 AM

Can someone please upload the new blue icon?

Take a look at the first page of this thread, I attached the icon to one of my posts there :)

TAPelicious.com

Jul 27, 2009, 05:50 AM

The new Quicktime X Icon looks really nice. Good job Apple! :)

Michaelgtrusa

Jul 27, 2009, 05:55 AM

I tried to copy and paste the new icon, but couldn't get that to work this time.

Michaelgtrusa

Jul 27, 2009, 05:57 AM

Take a look at the first page of this thread, I attached the icon to one of my posts there :)

Thanks. Didn't do what i hoped it would. Copy and paste.

HyperZboy

Jul 27, 2009, 06:11 AM

It's not like a windows service pack. 10.5.7 is a service pack. No windows service pack brings that many under the hood changes.

And no, G5's are 64 bit processors but no G5 equipped machines are capable of running 64 bit kernel and no G5 equipped machines include GPU's which Open CL supports. So no, G5's wouldn't benefit much from SL, only from GCD.

FALSE

How can a 64bit computer not be capable of running a 64bit kernel?

At least explain why if you think you're correct on this.

I've not read this anywhere before. Enlighten us please.

And yes, a G5 can run a GPU capable of running Open CL, so wrong again, although this would include few machines and few graphics card combinations.

But OpenCL is only a part of this as Snow Leopard fixes so many Leopard problems that PowerPC people who paid $129 just recently will never get.

PS: The Windows XP service packs practically re-invented Windows XP!
And most of the changes, like Snow Leopard were "under the hood"

PPS: The great lengths that the Fanboys will go to amazes me on this site.

diamond.g

Jul 27, 2009, 06:19 AM

G5's are 64 bit processors but no G5 equipped machines are capable of running 64 bit kernel
This makes no sense...

kyncaith

Jul 27, 2009, 06:19 AM

clearly the other poster doesn't know the color red :rolleyes:

Yes, because there is only one type of red, and you have clearly shown me what RED is defined as. Thank you. (I'll spare you the cliched rolling eyes emoticon)

puma1552

Jul 27, 2009, 06:50 AM

I'm loving the Japanese woodblock print wallpaper of Hokusai's "Waves", seeing as I live in J-land myself and have a real woodblock print of it.

iBug2

Jul 27, 2009, 08:25 AM

FALSE

How can a 64bit computer not be capable of running a 64bit kernel?

At least explain why if you think you're correct on this.

I've not read this anywhere before. Enlighten us please.

And yes, a G5 can run a GPU capable of running Open CL, so wrong again, although this would include few machines and few graphics card combinations.

But OpenCL is only a part of this as Snow Leopard fixes so many Leopard problems that PowerPC people who paid $129 just recently will never get.

PS: The Windows XP service packs practically re-invented Windows XP!
And most of the changes, like Snow Leopard were "under the hood"

PPS: The great lengths that the Fanboys will go to amazes me on this site.

64 bit kernel requires 64 bit EFI. Not even all 64 bit Intel macs are capable of running 64 bit kernel with SL. (At the moment at least)

NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT, GeForce 8800 GT, GeForce 8800 GTS, Geforce 9400M, GeForce 9600M GT, GeForce GT 120, GeForce GT 130.
ATI Radeon 4850, Radeon 4870 are the only hardware which support Open CL none of which is available for any Power PC hardware apple ships.

And yes, windows service packs are the equivalent of the point updates we get with each Mac OS X. Just 10.5.7 may not be as extensive as a service pack, but Windows generally releases couple packs while Apple can release up to 11 for a single OS. So YES, I'm pretty sure 10.4.11 vs 10.4.0 had as many under the hood changes and bug fixes as XP service packs.

And no service pack of windows gave the user an 64 bit OS. You may purchase 64 bit vista/xp separately if you like.

diamond.g

Jul 27, 2009, 10:40 AM

64 bit kernel requires 64 bit EFI. AFAIK that isn't true. Unless you have source for this comment.

roamy

Jul 27, 2009, 10:46 AM

Quick question: will snow leopard be a full retail operating system on the up to date disk or will it be the kind of thing where you need leopard to install snow leopard?

Well I hope it is a complete disk overwrite. Unfortunately Leopard is terrible and they need to forget this ops sys as soon as possible. I just hope they have fixed the many many errors in Leopard. Hopefully they will release it the first week in Sep vs the last. Hell I may even go stand in line for this one!!

Leopard was Apple's first attempt to emulate Windows and hopefully they have returned to superiority!! But with no software to write robust web applications they look like they are still just content to be a "Trinket Vendor" At a point in time they need to go after the business community outside of Hollywood!

Simplicated

Jul 27, 2009, 10:53 AM

Well I hope it is a complete disk overwrite. Unfortunately Leopard is terrible and they need to forget this ops sys as soon as possible. I just hope they have fixed the many many errors in Leopard. Hopefully they will release it the first week in Sep vs the last. Hell I may even go stand in line for this one!!

Leopard was Apple's first attempt to emulate Windows and hopefully they have returned to superiority!! But with no software to write robust web applications they look like they are still just content to be a "Trinket Vendor" At a point in time they need to go after the business community outside of Hollywood!

Are you even conscious or am I misunderstanding your point?

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The only thing I complain about in Snow Leopard is that you can't click and hold a stack to show its options. You need to right click or ctrl-click them, which I rarely do on a Mac.

Kilamite

Jul 27, 2009, 11:16 AM

Leopard was Apple's first attempt to emulate Windows and hopefully they have returned to superiority!! But with no software to write robust web applications they look like they are still just content to be a "Trinket Vendor" At a point in time they need to go after the business community outside of Hollywood!

Eh...?

NT1440

Jul 27, 2009, 11:21 AM

Well I hope it is a complete disk overwrite. Unfortunately Leopard is terrible and they need to forget this ops sys as soon as possible. I just hope they have fixed the many many errors in Leopard. Hopefully they will release it the first week in Sep vs the last. Hell I may even go stand in line for this one!!

Leopard was Apple's first attempt to emulate Windows and hopefully they have returned to superiority!! But with no software to write robust web applications they look like they are still just content to be a "Trinket Vendor" At a point in time they need to go after the business community outside of Hollywood!

What are you talking about? Leopard was just yet another evolutionary step of OSX. How in the hell did it try to emulate windows when windows has been skimming ideas off for years?:confused::confused::confused::confused:

Also, what is a robust web application? (made me chuckle)

birch25

Jul 27, 2009, 12:45 PM

It's not like a windows service pack. 10.5.7 is a service pack. No windows service pack brings that many under the hood changes.

And no, G5's are 64 bit processors but no G5 equipped machines are capable of running 64 bit kernel and no G5 equipped machines include GPU's which Open CL supports. So no, G5's wouldn't benefit much from SL, only from GCD.

Not to mention they would have to leave all the legacy PowerPC code which was a major step in optimizing everything. Maybe it would have been nice for Apple to make a final OS update for PowerPC machines that incorporated many of Snow Leopard's feature set but they haven't sold a PowerPC computer in years and there is only a small percentage of people still using them.

Also, a Windows service pack generally does far more than the average 10.5.x update.

10.5.x updates - bug fixes, compatibility updates, minor feature enhancements, etc.
Service Packs - major features built on current OS, bug fixes, compatibility updates

theimacdude

Jul 27, 2009, 12:47 PM

Not a huge fan of the new Quicktime Logo TBH....
I didn't like the purple either.

Razeus

Jul 27, 2009, 12:55 PM

Well I hope it is a complete disk overwrite. Unfortunately Leopard is terrible and they need to forget this ops sys as soon as possible. I just hope they have fixed the many many errors in Leopard. Hopefully they will release it the first week in Sep vs the last. Hell I may even go stand in line for this one!!

Leopard was Apple's first attempt to emulate Windows and hopefully they have returned to superiority!! But with no software to write robust web applications they look like they are still just content to be a "Trinket Vendor" At a point in time they need to go after the business community outside of Hollywood!

This is the most retarded post I've ever read. This poster obviously doesn't have the slightest clue of what he's talking about.

BRLawyer

Jul 27, 2009, 01:13 PM

Again, just because you (and me) have no issues with Time Machine doesn't mean that others won't, or at least finding it annoying.

I know we'd all like to think Apple makes perfect software, but they don't. No one does. It's not a perfect world.

I didn't say others had no issues with it, I said "I" don't have any issues with it. And it's not false to say I don't have any issues with Leopard, because this is MY experience with it...too bad others, for whatever reason, can't say the same.

wankey

Jul 27, 2009, 02:18 PM

What are you talking about? Leopard was just yet another evolutionary step of OSX. How in the hell did it try to emulate windows when windows has been skimming ideas off for years?:confused::confused::confused::confused:

Also, what is a robust web application? (made me chuckle)

There is a hint of truth to his post. Leopard did feel like Windows when I first used it. I had used Tiger a long time before, but Leopard really made it feel like Windows. What do I mean?

It was slow. Admit it, 10.5.0 was slow. Took 7 revisions to get it back to speed (now it's pretty fast, Dock no longer lags for me, neither does stacks)
It was half finished. 10.5.3 brought the graphics and interaction back to regular Apple standard (beforehand spaces didn't work well, stacks didn't have finished graphics, several things weren't probably thought through)
It was delayed. They brought OS X developers off to help with iPhone OS.

Yeah, other than that I don't know what he's talking about.

NT1440

Jul 27, 2009, 02:21 PM

There is a hint of truth to his post. Leopard did feel like Windows when I first used it. I had used Tiger a long time before, but Leopard really made it feel like Windows. What do I mean?

It was slow. Admit it, 10.5.0 was slow. Took 7 revisions to get it back to speed (now it's pretty fast, Dock no longer lags for me, neither does stacks)
It was half finished. 10.5.3 brought the graphics and interaction back to regular Apple standard (beforehand spaces didn't work well, stacks didn't have finished graphics, several things weren't probably thought through)
It was delayed. They brought OS X developers off to help with iPhone OS.

Yeah, other than that I don't know what he's talking about.
:p

So leopard would be Apple trying to be like MS by making a slow unfinished OS?

Thats a funny idea that other guy brought up.