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MacRumors
Jul 27, 2009, 02:54 PM
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Apple today seeded iPhone developers with iPhone OS 3.1 Beta 3, termed Build 7C116a. Apple also released a new version of the iPhone SDK 3.1, Beta 3 (Build 9M2808). Both downloads are available to registered developers through Apple's iPhone Dev Center (http://developer.apple.com/iphone/).

Apple seeded the previous beta (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/07/14/iphone-3-1-beta-2-released-to-developers/) nearly two weeks ago, and it remains to be seen what new changes are present in the third beta version.

Apple is reportedly relying on new developer tools present in iPhone OS 3.1 to deploy augmented reality (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/07/24/augmented-reality-apps-to-arrive-with-iphone-3-1-update/) applications that are capable of overlaying live video from the iPhone's camera with real-time data.

Article Link: Apple Seeds iPhone OS 3.1 Beta 3 to Developers (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/07/27/apple-seeds-iphone-os-3-1-beta-3-to-developers/)



no.1 Apple Fan
Jul 27, 2009, 02:56 PM
I wonder if there will be any new features in 3.0. I hope there gets to be more voice commands.:)

SFStateStudent
Jul 27, 2009, 02:56 PM
Gawd, how many more betas do we need???:(:(:(

FreeState
Jul 27, 2009, 02:56 PM
so what's new? :D

New Feature in iPhone OS 3.1: Failover support for HTTP live streaming
New Enhancements to Core Audio in iPhone OS 3.1 (Beta 3)
New Feature in iPhone OS 3.1: Instruments over Wi-Fi
New Feature in iPhone OS 3.1 with Snow Leopard: VM Tracker

zombitronic
Jul 27, 2009, 02:59 PM
Hopefully this means Google Sky Map (http://www.google.com/sky/skymap.html) will be just around the corner. I've got an app called Pocket Universe which works well with the compass and accelerometer, but it's got its own map of the sky so nothing is really "augmented." I believe that Google Sky Map actually uses an Android phone's camera.

benflick
Jul 27, 2009, 03:00 PM
I doubt there's gonna be any more features in this beta...

litopine
Jul 27, 2009, 03:00 PM
Enough with the Beta's we need 3.1. I have a picture that needs to be sent through MMS :D

BeyondtheTech
Jul 27, 2009, 03:02 PM
I wish I hadn't updated to the beta OSes, but I'm glad that the high-pitch noise issue during video capture and voice memo recording was resolved in Beta 2.

I didn't realize Beta 2 will expire tomorrow, so I guess we're forced to update anyway.

MacFly123
Jul 27, 2009, 03:03 PM
Enough with the Beta's we need 3.1. I have a picture that needs to be sent through MMS :D

Talk to AT&T! :rolleyes: Apple will just keep fine tuning 3.1 until AT&T is ready for them to release it and activate MMS and tethering finally.

aokiqiao
Jul 27, 2009, 03:08 PM
I hope this really takes off. I think it'd be cool if they used it for other things than finding subways, etc... Like maybe pointing it up and it telling you constellation names and stuff like that. Should be some interesting stuff coming our way.

TheSpaz
Jul 27, 2009, 03:09 PM
Can't wait to try it out!

I hope they fixed the graphics and performance issues I've been having.

iphoneg33k
Jul 27, 2009, 03:10 PM
I have 3 things that they need to fix but I don't know if it's apple or At&T.

1. Turn on MMS for users.
2. When receiving TxT message turn off who they are from. Like it the old way when it just said "New Text Message"
3. Have video for Iphone 3g users...

That's all I ask.

akac
Jul 27, 2009, 03:10 PM
Enough with the Beta's we need 3.1. I have a picture that needs to be sent through MMS :D

Other carriers have MMS so I doubt 3.1 is what we're waiting on for MMS.

FreeState
Jul 27, 2009, 03:12 PM
I have 3 things that they need to fix but I don't know if it's apple or At&T.

1. Turn on SMM for users.
2. When receiving TxT message turn off who they are from. Like it the old way when it just said "New Text Message"
3. Have video for Iphone 3g users...

That's all I ask.

1 - SMM works elsewhere (Europe etc) - its an ATT thing.
2 - works that way on 3.1 for me
3 - never going to happen. Thats a 3GS feature only.

IceflowStudios
Jul 27, 2009, 03:12 PM
Beta 3 seemed to have fixed the pink 'Connect to iTunes' screen. It's about time!

ghostface147
Jul 27, 2009, 03:14 PM
I have 3 things that they need to fix but I don't know if it's apple or At&T.

1. Turn on SMM for users.
2. When receiving TxT message turn off who they are from. Like it the old way when it just said "New Text Message"
3. Have video for Iphone 3g users...

That's all I ask.

Number 3 isn't happening, you can forget it. But as a play on number 2, I would like to have the option to have text messages show up as a badge instead of a notification. It would also be nice to have the ability to tweak each system sound individually. In other words, I want the text message sound at one level, ringer at another and VM at another. Doubt it will happen though.....

Lycanthrope
Jul 27, 2009, 03:15 PM
Anybody any ideas if they've fixed the Mobile Exchange certificate problem?

This is a deeply annoying bug and must be really reducing their credibility for corporate users.

upenox
Jul 27, 2009, 03:16 PM
Has anyone verified that it doesn't break MMS on ATT?

Mess
Jul 27, 2009, 03:16 PM
New Feature in iPhone OS 3.1: Failover support for HTTP live streaming
New Enhancements to Core Audio in iPhone OS 3.1 (Beta 3)
New Feature in iPhone OS 3.1: Instruments over Wi-Fi
New Feature in iPhone OS 3.1 with Snow Leopard: VM Tracker

Sorry if this may sound all "n00b-ish" but what is "New Feature in iPhone OS 3.1: Instruments over Wi-Fi "

Would be greatful for some enlightenment :cool:

jav6454
Jul 27, 2009, 03:18 PM
I hope it speeds up and isn't as slow as 3.0.0 on 1st Gen iPhone devices.

The Californian
Jul 27, 2009, 03:21 PM
One step closer to the general release.

ooo
Jul 27, 2009, 03:21 PM
Sorry if this may sound all "n00b-ish" but what is "New Feature in iPhone OS 3.1: Instruments over Wi-Fi "

Would be greatful for some enlightenment :cool:

Instruments is a tool for developers to benchmark their application, memory leaks, etc.

twoodcc
Jul 27, 2009, 03:25 PM
nice. i haven't gotten the email yet about it. i'll have to check it out though

FreeState
Jul 27, 2009, 03:27 PM
Sorry if this may sound all "n00b-ish" but what is "New Feature in iPhone OS 3.1: Instruments over Wi-Fi "

Would be greatful for some enlightenment :cool:

Here is what it is (its for developers)

New Feature in iPhone OS 3.1: Instruments over Wi-Fi

As of iPhone OS SDK 3.1, it is now possible to connect to your developer devices from Instruments (on your Leopard or Snow Leopard OS X machine) using Wi-Fi rather than the USB tether. The Wi-Fi connection is 100% fully featured and supports all of the instrumentation you would normally get over the tether. It is intended for use by developers who need to attach other USB devices to their iPhone OS–based device while doing their performance analysis. The feature may also be used in situations where having the USB tether is simply impractical or inconvenient.

If you do not need to attach other USB devices, the USB connection is still preferred for general usage. The Wi-Fi connection is slower than the USB connection and requires more power from the device to accommodate the heavy Wi-Fi traffic that can come from Instruments. As a result, using the Wi-Fi connection will drain the device's battery more rapidly than other scenarios. In addition, you cannot install applications on your device from Xcode over Wi-Fi, nor can you debug them over Wi-Fi using Xcode. You must still use the USB tether to connect to the device using Xcode.

To use this Instruments feature, both your Macintosh computer and your iPhone OS device must have Wi-Fi enabled and must be connected to the same Wi-Fi access point. This access point must be enabled for Bonjour services. Once these conditions are met, you may establish a Wi-Fi connection using the steps described in the following sections.

ryguy2303
Jul 27, 2009, 03:27 PM
Turns out I signed up for the iPhone dev....how do i Download the 3.1?

BryanLyle
Jul 27, 2009, 03:29 PM
If you are running Beta 2, make sure you update your devices by midnight tonight or they will stop working.

"iPhone OS 3.1 beta 2 will expire Tuesday, July 28 at 12:00 am"

aokiqiao
Jul 27, 2009, 03:30 PM
1 - SMM works elsewhere (Europe etc) - its an ATT thing.
2 - works that way on 3.1 for me
3 - never going to happen. Thats a 3GS feature only.

@#3 - It gives people more incentive to buy a 3GS if the 3G doesnt have it. Either that or the 3G hardware prob couldnt handle it? :confused:

thisisarcadia
Jul 27, 2009, 03:40 PM
If you are running Beta 2, make sure you update your devices by midnight tonight or they will stop working.

"iPhone OS 3.1 beta 2 will expire Tuesday, July 28 at 12:00 am"

i thought previous betas expired 10 days after new releases?!

enoC
Jul 27, 2009, 03:41 PM
Turns out I signed up for the iPhone dev....how do i Download the 3.1?

Go to your Developer account and download it there;)

bucksatan731
Jul 27, 2009, 03:43 PM
How about if it just fixes the Nike+ issue that freezes the phone if the screen goes to sleep while doing a workout. That would be friggn wonderful

Ryan Trevisol
Jul 27, 2009, 03:43 PM
For those who have 3.1, any updates to the GMail mail handling? Messages being pushed?

rpeterslll
Jul 27, 2009, 03:44 PM
Has anyone verified that it doesn't break MMS on ATT?

Yes MMS is still working for me on At&T using Beta 3

MacFly123
Jul 27, 2009, 03:46 PM
I am thinking 3.1 will be out in September to give AT&T time to get MMS and tethering ready and to coincide with the new iPod Touch and its camera and mic. I also think the new iPod Touch will have a compass chip so it can utilize the Augmented Reality APIs baked into 3.1! :D

subie09lega
Jul 27, 2009, 03:47 PM
Number 3 isn't happening, you can forget it. But as a play on number 2, I would like to have the option to have text messages show up as a badge instead of a notification. It would also be nice to have the ability to tweak each system sound individually. In other words, I want the text message sound at one level, ringer at another and VM at another. Doubt it will happen though.....

AMEN to the customizable volume tweaks!!! I have wanted this for nearly two years. It's so annoying that everything is affected by the volume control. Ringer volume up, speaker volume has to go up too. WHY??? Asinine. :confused: Apple, make it happen.

MarceePauff
Jul 27, 2009, 03:48 PM
I just want to know if it'll fix my 1st gen phone lack of wifi.

x5315
Jul 27, 2009, 03:51 PM
In General -> Usage, there's now a meter for Tethering Data as well as Cellular Network Data.

ikm19
Jul 27, 2009, 03:52 PM
That SUCKS !!! I am out of home and gone be back may be day after tomorrow and i wont be able to use my iPhone after midnight...

Is there anyway i can download it on pc and extract dmg file and then update it to iPhone 3GS..

johnny Ola
Jul 27, 2009, 03:52 PM
How about if it just fixes the Nike+ issue that freezes the phone if the screen goes to sleep while doing a workout. That would be friggn wonderful

Yeah, this has been driving me up the wall.

mcardlek
Jul 27, 2009, 03:54 PM
That SUCKS !!! I am out of home and gone be back may be day after tomorrow and i wont be able to use my iPhone after midnight...

Is there anyway i can download it on pc and extract dmg file and then update it to iPhone 3GS..

you can use 7zip to extract it. i do it that way all the time and it works fine.

chr1s60
Jul 27, 2009, 03:58 PM
No data or details to support this, but I think this will be the final release before it goes public the first week of August. At least I hope that is what will happen.

I am thinking 3.1 will be out in September to give AT&T time to get MMS and tethering ready and to coincide with the new iPod Touch and its camera and mic. I also think the new iPod Touch will have a compass chip so it can utilize the Augmented Reality APIs baked into 3.1! :D

MMS is ready, AT&T is just needing to unlock it. Tethering is just a matter of releasing details of how much money per month.

rpeterslll
Jul 27, 2009, 04:04 PM
That SUCKS !!! I am out of home and gone be back may be day after tomorrow and i wont be able to use my iPhone after midnight...

Is there anyway i can download it on pc and extract dmg file and then update it to iPhone 3GS..

I update mine on a PC. I use Ultra ISO to extract the DMG file, its a free program if you just search for it.

ikm19
Jul 27, 2009, 04:06 PM
you can use 7zip to extract it. i do it that way all the time and it works fine.

Thanks man... its worked out great had to figure out for a while but still i am able to get that ipsw file from the dmg

Rayfire
Jul 27, 2009, 04:07 PM
Can anyone check if it supports the AVRCP Bluetooth profile? (Fast forward, rewind etc)

ikm19
Jul 27, 2009, 04:07 PM
I update mine on a PC. I use Ultra ISO to extract the DMG file, its a free program if you just search for it.

Thanks but 7zip worked out for me...

Bjohnson33
Jul 27, 2009, 04:10 PM
I hope this really takes off. I think it'd be cool if they used it for other things than finding subways, etc... Like maybe pointing it up and it telling you constellation names and stuff like that. Should be some interesting stuff coming our way.

I think that's one of the most exciting aspects of the technology - it's so new that we can't even imagine what uses developers are going to dream up for it. Same with the GPS apps that have come about in the past year - there have been quite a few uses that weren't immediately obvious to me when it was first made available.

diamond.g
Jul 27, 2009, 04:11 PM
New Feature in iPhone OS 3.1: Failover support for HTTP live streaming
New Enhancements to Core Audio in iPhone OS 3.1 (Beta 3)
New Feature in iPhone OS 3.1: Instruments over Wi-Fi
New Feature in iPhone OS 3.1 with Snow Leopard: VM Tracker
Is that VM as in Virtual Memory, VM as Voice Mail?

michael.lauden
Jul 27, 2009, 04:14 PM
Yeah, this has been driving me up the wall.

must make it easier to workout then

shaunymac
Jul 27, 2009, 04:27 PM
I hope it speeds up and isn't as slow as 3.0.0 on 1st Gen iPhone devices.

Please god. My phone lags.

Isn't it such a crock that they left out video to all of us? I think the faster processor warrants the 3gs' price tag alone, not video. Oh well, that is why there is cycorder. :D

DELLsFan
Jul 27, 2009, 04:27 PM
One step closer to the general release.

Scheduled for when, exactly?

MikhailT
Jul 27, 2009, 04:30 PM
Please god. My phone lags.

Isn't it such a crock that they left out video to all of us? I think the faster processor warrants the 3gs' price tag alone, not video. Oh well, that is why there is cycorder. :D

From what I saw, even cycorder couldn't match the speed that the iPhone 3GS's camera had going. It is possible Apple just don't want people bitching about the choppy and bad quality videos that it would've generated on the first two iPhones.

Scheduled for when, exactly?

Mid August to Sept.

rosenkrieger
Jul 27, 2009, 04:34 PM
From what I saw, even cycorder couldn't match the speed that the iPhone 3GS had going. It is possible Apple just don't want people bitching about the choppy and bad quality videos that it would've generated on the first two iPhones.
.

And lets not forget the much better camera in the 3GS - Cycorder is a joke in quality to the 3GS, just because of the higher quality cam. I had Cycorder on my 3G and one look at the 3GS vids and well - just forget Video on the 3G or 1st Gen iPhone :rolleyes:

TheRiseofTheFal
Jul 27, 2009, 04:35 PM
I hesitated to download beta 2 after there were reports that it broke tethering...I know people are reporting that they are worried that beta 2 expires and becomes unusable, i'm still using beta 1 and it's worked perfectly

onicon
Jul 27, 2009, 04:38 PM
That SUCKS !!! I am out of home and gone be back may be day after tomorrow and i wont be able to use my iPhone after midnight...

Is there anyway i can download it on pc and extract dmg file and then update it to iPhone 3GS..

i am still running 3.1 beta 1 just fine :)

how about ipcc injection? anyone tried it with beta 3 and itunes 8.2.1?

enoC
Jul 27, 2009, 04:40 PM
i am still running 3.1 beta 1 just fine :)

how about ipcc injection? anyone tried it with beta 3 and itunes 8.2.1?

How is that possible? I thought that beta 1 would expire after two weeks?

hirshnoc
Jul 27, 2009, 04:43 PM
Can someone post a download link to the .ipsw file for Beta 3?

Thanks!

efp1
Jul 27, 2009, 04:44 PM
Can anyone check if it supports the AVRCP Bluetooth profile? (Fast forward, rewind etc)

I would also like to know this....

Can someone please check? :)

Thanks!

enoC
Jul 27, 2009, 04:46 PM
Can someone post a download link to the .ipsw file for Beta 3?

Thanks!

Sure. But for which iPhone?

mcmanus7
Jul 27, 2009, 04:47 PM
For the people who keep commenting on 3.1 fixing tethering/mms for AT&T.. and it being delayed for AT&T to set this up properly....

Do you realize that other countries have these functions working (without jailbreaking or workarounds)...

when AT&T decides to allow MMS/Tethering then they will release a carrier update just like every other carrier...

I imagine 3.1 is almost ready to ship out since they're onto beta 3..... and this is not supposed to be a major overhaul... 3.0 had what 5 or 6 betas?

MikhailT
Jul 27, 2009, 04:50 PM
For the people who keep commenting on 3.1 fixing tethering/mms for AT&T.. and it being delayed for AT&T to set this up properly....

Do you realize that other countries have these functions working (without jailbreaking or workarounds)...

when AT&T decides to allow MMS/Tethering then they will release a carrier update just like every other carrier...

I imagine 3.1 is almost ready to ship out since they're onto beta 3..... and this is not supposed to be a major overhaul... 3.0 had what 5 or 6 betas?

I think AT&T wants to make it seem like it is not their fault but Apple's fault and it would require 3.1 to get MMS/Tethering to work.

3.1 will come out whenever it's ready to come out. It could still go all the way to 5-6 betas if Apple has more features planned. They seem to be rolling out a few new minor features in each beta.

hirshnoc
Jul 27, 2009, 04:53 PM
Sure. But for which iPhone?

3G please. Thanks! you are a lifesaver!

mrhoove
Jul 27, 2009, 04:56 PM
Can anyone check if it supports the AVRCP Bluetooth profile? (Fast forward, rewind etc)

No luck. Just pause/play.

TheRiseofTheFal
Jul 27, 2009, 05:15 PM
i'm still waiting because I enjoy my tethering, any reports on if this beta also breaks tethering at this point?

mrhoove
Jul 27, 2009, 05:18 PM
works.

dosequis
Jul 27, 2009, 05:19 PM
How about if it just fixes the Nike+ issue that freezes the phone if the screen goes to sleep while doing a workout. That would be friggn wonderful

I have tested this and it seems to be fixed now.

TheRiseofTheFal
Jul 27, 2009, 05:20 PM
works.

hahah Netshare just keeps on kicking, i was asking more about using a hacked carrier file to keep it a kicking, if it doesn't then I think i'll hold off until I'm officially forced to upgrade!

dosequis
Jul 27, 2009, 05:25 PM
Can anyone check if it supports the AVRCP Bluetooth profile? (Fast forward, rewind etc)

Checked and NOPE!

thadoggfather
Jul 27, 2009, 05:25 PM
Does this fix the flaky wifi signal and other wifi issues people are reporting?

nfl46
Jul 27, 2009, 05:26 PM
SIGHHH another beta! Goodness...at least give us 3.0.1 to fix minor things.

cpljwlusmc
Jul 27, 2009, 05:26 PM
Does anyone know if this fixed the problem with the iPod app freezing if you double tap the album art in portrait mode? Or if this stops the Mail App from marking mail you've already read as new and won't get rid of it until you delete it?

efp1
Jul 27, 2009, 05:27 PM
Checked and NOPE!

Thanks. Was also curious to know this answer. I hope they include it at some point. :)

Smooth4Lyfe
Jul 27, 2009, 05:29 PM
NEW FEATURE: You Can Copy/Paste Videos to email

Cold-1
Jul 27, 2009, 05:34 PM
They still haven't fixed the shortcut list in address book. If I open "All contacts" only the letter "A" and "#" works in the shortcut list on the right side.

acfusion29
Jul 27, 2009, 05:40 PM
Well, the iPod app is still broken.

I use smart playlists (I have one setup that was my 100 most recent music added) and it just shuffles random 100 songs, instead of displaying them in proper order and displaying the right songs.

Everything was fine until beta 2, and beta 3 didn't fix it. :mad:

vansouza
Jul 27, 2009, 05:43 PM
Turns out I signed up for the iPhone dev....how do i Download the 3.1?

How could you not know?

PhightinPhils26
Jul 27, 2009, 05:52 PM
Glad to hear they fixed the high pitched sounds in video... but what about after sending a text message?

allen099
Jul 27, 2009, 06:00 PM
Smooth4Lyfe: "NEW FEATURE: You Can Copy/Paste Videos to email"

Is that right? That would be awesome! That means emailing uncompressed video is now possible, just the same if you copy/paste photos into an email. Sweet! Hopefully they can also raise the size limit for emailing videos. 3G network should be able to handle it, or at least enable higher capacity over wifi.

TheRiseofTheFal
Jul 27, 2009, 06:12 PM
and there goes my tethering.. :-/

rjohnstone
Jul 27, 2009, 06:13 PM
Anyone know if the WiFi issues are fixed?
I still struggle with maintaining a WiFi connection on all 3 of my iPhones.
One is a 2G running 3.0 and the other two are 3 GS.
My 2G is my control as it worked great on WiFi prior to 3.0.
So I'm fairly confident the issue is with the software.

TheRiseofTheFal
Jul 27, 2009, 06:15 PM
my Wi-Fi is holding pretty steady right now, no issues at all

dizzy13
Jul 27, 2009, 06:15 PM
Smooth4Lyfe: "NEW FEATURE: You Can Copy/Paste Videos to email"

Is that right? That would be awesome! That means emailing uncompressed video is now possible, just the same if you copy/paste photos into an email. Sweet! Hopefully they can also raise the size limit for emailing videos. 3G network should be able to handle it, or at least enable higher capacity over wifi.

Yes, I posted this to my blog earlier.
Check out the YouTube video I posted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArqU37cNzQQ

One thing to keep in mind, you can only send a max size of 15MB. This is just a restriction of the mail app as it also applies to copy pasting images.

ThunderSkunk
Jul 27, 2009, 06:20 PM
Where is disk-access mode.

Where in stink is the friggin idisk app? I read about it, I buy the acct, I look for it, no app! wtf!

After that, all I need is an auto-destruct sequence and an ejection seat.

Get on it, Apple!

Unless Instruments over wifi would allow us to seamlessly access a wireless external HD as a... hmmm...

MacFly123
Jul 27, 2009, 06:23 PM
No data or details to support this, but I think this will be the final release before it goes public the first week of August. At least I hope that is what will happen.



MMS is ready, AT&T is just needing to unlock it. Tethering is just a matter of releasing details of how much money per month.

Yes, I know. That is what I meant by giving AT&T time to get it all running. AT&T is pissing me off lately! :mad:

FreeState
Jul 27, 2009, 06:42 PM
Where is disk-access mode.

Not going to happen natively anytime soon.

Where in stink is the friggin idisk app? I read about it, I buy the acct, I look for it, no app! wtf!

Still "coming soon" as its been states since the day it was announced.

After that, all I need is an auto-destruct sequence and an ejection seat.
Get on it, Apple!

LOL

Unless Instruments over wifi would allow us to seamlessly access a wireless external HD as a... hmmm...

Nope. But that idisk app when it comes out connects to your mobileme - which connects to your shared hard disks if you have an Airport :)

http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/features/harddrivesharing.html

Access your drive over the Internet.Say you’re traveling and you need a file on the hard drive connected to your AirPort Extreme back at home. If you’re a MobileMe member using Mac OS X Leopard, no problem.* You can now access all the files on your shared drive over the Internet. Simply register your AirPort Extreme with your MobileMe account, and your drive appears in your Finder sidebar just like any other attached drive. It’s like having your own personal file server wherever you go.

05slvrscape
Jul 27, 2009, 07:36 PM
In General -> Usage, there's now a meter for Tethering Data as well as Cellular Network Data.

Now they just need one to be able to seperate Wi-fi data vs. 3G data.

Anybody any ideas if they've fixed the Mobile Exchange certificate problem?

This is a deeply annoying bug and must be really reducing their credibility for corporate users.

I had problems with certificates in 2.0 but never tried it in 3.0. In 3.1 I have no problems with our exchange server and active sync.

kas23
Jul 27, 2009, 07:38 PM
SIGHHH another beta! Goodness...at least give us 3.0.1 to fix minor things.

Until every possible tethering & MMS hack is disabled, betas will just keep coming. ;)

In General -> Usage, there's now a meter for Tethering Data as well as Cellular Network Data.

See.

glasserp
Jul 27, 2009, 08:05 PM
Enough with the Beta's we need 3.1. I have a picture that needs to be sent through MMS :Dsame here i got some n00dz i gotta mass-text!

hallje
Jul 27, 2009, 08:14 PM
If you are running Beta 2, make sure you update your devices by midnight tonight or they will stop working.

"iPhone OS 3.1 beta 2 will expire Tuesday, July 28 at 12:00 am"

So much for 12:00 am local time (PDT), my phone nuked itself at 12:00 am GMT. Thanks Apple.

samven582
Jul 27, 2009, 09:39 PM
did they fix the wifi and signal issue?

xserve2
Jul 27, 2009, 10:05 PM
So much for 12:00 am local time (PDT), my phone nuked itself at 12:00 am GMT. Thanks Apple.

4.00am GMT here - Phone still going fine

dvanwinkle
Jul 27, 2009, 10:09 PM
3G please. Thanks! you are a lifesaver!

You do know that if you don't have a developer account your iPhone will be locked out, right? And you CAN'T downgrade without Jailbreaking...

dvanwinkle
Jul 27, 2009, 10:12 PM
So much for 12:00 am local time (PDT), my phone nuked itself at 12:00 am GMT. Thanks Apple.

Do you not automatically pull the time from the Cell Tower?

Check Settings -> General -> Date & Time -> Set Automatically.

I am guessing that is why it went by GMT

ikm19
Jul 27, 2009, 10:41 PM
Phone doesn't vibrate when we move the icons.


Is it me only or everyone ?

vansouza
Jul 27, 2009, 10:45 PM
Any one notice if their games have gone silent... Pinball no longer makes noise and my card games have gone silent as well...

ethana
Jul 27, 2009, 10:54 PM
Phone doesn't vibrate when we move the icons.


Is it me only or everyone ?

Everyone

lucas
Jul 27, 2009, 11:03 PM
my 3gs running 3.1b2 just went purple and when I connected it to itunes it says the os expired.

wtf apple? you couldnt have given people a 24hr grace period to update? itunes says it cant talk with the authentication server behind the stupid proxy at work so now I'm phone-less until I get home. not cool

Chris Welch
Jul 27, 2009, 11:08 PM
my 3gs running 3.1b2 just went purple and when I connected it to itunes it says the os expired.

wtf apple? you couldnt have given people a 24hr grace period to update? itunes says it cant talk with the authentication server behind the stupid proxy at work so now I'm phone-less until I get home. not cool

How many times does it need to be said? You people aren't supposed to be using beta firmware on your primary phone. Period.

Don't be mad at Apple when you're using it in a way that's not recommended.

allen099
Jul 27, 2009, 11:13 PM
How many times does it need to be said? You people aren't supposed to be using beta firmware on your primary phone. Period.

Don't be mad at Apple when you're using it in a way that's not recommended.

I don't know...while I do agree with that statement where no beta should be "relied" upon for primary work, there should be a little bit of a grace period. Developers don't always have to buy an extra phone/iPod to test their apps on. It's also a monetary issue to an extent. There's no reason to shell out an extra $300. I agree with the previous poster who asked for a 24-hr grace period after the new beta release. Not too much to ask.

asoccorso
Jul 27, 2009, 11:28 PM
can now save video on 3G and 3GS

the saved video goes into camera role just like in the iphone 3GS

Video Editing on 3G in Beta 3 with save trim original and save as new clip but cannot send the video or upload
:):apple::):apple:

allen099
Jul 27, 2009, 11:29 PM
can now save video on 3G and 3GS

the saved video goes into camera role just like in the iphone 3GS

Video Editing on 3G in Beta 3 with save trim original and save as new clip but cannot send the video or upload
:):apple::):apple:

How are you saving video on 3G when it doesn't have "legal" video functionality?

asoccorso
Jul 27, 2009, 11:31 PM
How are you saving video on 3G when it doesn't have "legal" video functionality?

i sent a video from my 3GS to my 3G through email then saved it like you would a photo

MikhailT
Jul 27, 2009, 11:34 PM
How many times does it need to be said? You people aren't supposed to be using beta firmware on your primary phone. Period.

Don't be mad at Apple when you're using it in a way that's not recommended.

That's not the point. Apple should be giving the devs at least 48 hours after thew NEW beta comes out to upgrade before bricking the phones.

It's retarded to release a new beta on same day of the midnight expiration and there's no reason in the world for Apple to do that, or for any other company. It is one of the most retarded thing I have ever heard of.

Imagine a real legit beta tester download a beta of Snow Leopard, Apple warns them that it'll expire exactly 7 days later but there'll be a new beta before that. An hour before the expiration deadline, Apple releases the new beta. Just one hour.

asoccorso
Jul 27, 2009, 11:49 PM
so you can save the video but not copy it. if you try it will only copy the file name not the actual file you can see this when u paste it anywhere. by the way my at&t service still sucks lol

allen099
Jul 27, 2009, 11:50 PM
i sent a video from my 3GS to my 3G through email then saved it like you would a photo

Ah, sorry, misread that :-). That's excellent! Thanks.

asoccorso
Jul 27, 2009, 11:54 PM
you can copy and paste video on 3GS

miiles
Jul 27, 2009, 11:58 PM
It's nice that Apple seems to constantly be trying to improve their product line. They don't just sit with it because its selling.

iBLAKEE
Jul 28, 2009, 12:03 AM
Is this a new feature? I have never noticed it...
185358
If you can't tell what I'm talking about.. The title is green, to show the website is secure.

allen099
Jul 28, 2009, 12:42 AM
Is this a new feature? I have never noticed it...
185358
If you can't tell what I'm talking about.. The title is green, to show the website is secure.

Not a new feature, apparently. I was able to replicate it on my iPhone with OS 3.0. I went to http://live.login.com, and clicked "signin with enhanced security" towards the bottom of the original dialogue box, and am also viewing Microsoft Corporation in green. Good observation though, I never noticed either.

Eminemdrdre00
Jul 28, 2009, 01:03 AM
Glad to hear they fixed the high pitched sounds in video... but what about after sending a text message?

This was a iPhone3GS only issue right? My old 3G never made that high pitched sound. I get the high pitched sound even if I lock/unlock my phone.

JFreak
Jul 28, 2009, 01:07 AM
@#3 - It gives people more incentive to buy a 3GS if the 3G doesnt have it.

If people have 12 or 24 month deals it gives zero incentive

JFreak
Jul 28, 2009, 01:11 AM
my Wi-Fi is holding pretty steady right now, no issues at all

Try to go a little away from the base station, you'll notice. I have a 2 floor apartment and it was perfectly okay to use wifi on both floors w/2.2 software. Now I cannot get a connection on the other floor, so it must be because of 3.0 changed something.

CKohkah
Jul 28, 2009, 01:21 AM
What's the Carrier File been updated to? Beta 2 was AT&T 4.2

Howmanoid
Jul 28, 2009, 01:32 AM
nice. i haven't gotten the email yet about it. i'll have to check it out though

Yeah me neither. What up Apple. You cashed my cheque!

robpow
Jul 28, 2009, 01:33 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7C116a Safari/528.16)

For O2 in the UK it's now 4.6.

MacAndy74
Jul 28, 2009, 01:59 AM
I don't suppose Emots are ever going to make it into iPhone OS ? :D

Jeremy08
Jul 28, 2009, 02:06 AM
anyone hook me up with a link for 3.1 beta 3 3gs?

allen099
Jul 28, 2009, 02:08 AM
I don't suppose Emots are ever going to make it into iPhone OS ? :D

You can do a search for Emoji in the iTunes App Store for them. There are some apps which are free that can enable Emoji for you. By default, they are only installed on Japanese iPhone's.

martymcr
Jul 28, 2009, 02:26 AM
i thought previous betas expired 10 days after new releases?!

Yes how annoyed was I to wake up to a dead iPhone and be forced to do the update to get it working again before I left for work.

Looks like they've made some changes so the tethering 'hacks' from help.benm.at don't work anymore on O2 UK.

lucas
Jul 28, 2009, 02:28 AM
anyone hook me up with a link for 3.1 beta 3 3gs?

http://developer.apple.com/iphone/index.action#downloads

NeroAZ
Jul 28, 2009, 02:34 AM
Turns out I signed up for the iPhone dev....how do i Download the 3.1?

If you paid the $99 you click the iphone 3.1 sdk and you will see the files.

Jeremy08
Jul 28, 2009, 02:38 AM
http://developer.apple.com/iphone/index.action#downloads

I have a registered udid, but not an iphone dev account...THATS WHY I ASKED....IF I NEEDED A LINK TO THE PAGE FOR THE IPHONE DEV, I WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR THAT!!!!! THANKS FOR BEING HELPFUL THOUGH!!!!!!:rolleyes:

RED™
Jul 28, 2009, 02:39 AM
I still can't believe that Apple is STILL hesitating to give us

- sms counter
- deleting single calls.

Please :apple:!

allen099
Jul 28, 2009, 03:03 AM
I have a registered udid, but not an iphone dev account...THATS WHY I ASKED....IF I NEEDED A LINK TO THE PAGE FOR THE IPHONE DEV, I WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR THAT!!!!! THANKS FOR BEING HELPFUL THOUGH!!!!!!:rolleyes:

Thanks for using caps. I was able to read this from the other side of my room :p

shoorty0690
Jul 28, 2009, 03:05 AM
Can anyone comment on the fixes of the bugs I've found on 3.0:

App pictures jumbling up after a hard reset.
WiFi signal issues.
Speed of 3.1 compared to 3.0.
Occasionally unlocking phone and not having the backlight on to illuminate screen.
Battery life!!! Has it been improved?
Any word on a MobileMe App?


Speaking of Apps, why is there no iChat app yet?

MacAndy74
Jul 28, 2009, 03:16 AM
You can do a search for Emoji in the iTunes App Store for them. There are some apps which are free that can enable Emoji for you. By default, they are only installed on Japanese iPhone's.

Thanks, I do have an App installed that gives me Emoji but when I get an SMS with a :-) it's still a :-) and not a http://spectacle-boat.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/Smiley%20Face.jpg

sneeks
Jul 28, 2009, 03:18 AM
Has the Reset screen always had all of these options? I've not used Reset since v2 firmware and cannot recall having them then.

http://www.sneeks.co.uk/iphone3g/reset.jpg

thefunkymunky
Jul 28, 2009, 03:21 AM
Can anyone comment on the fixes of the bugs I've found on 3.0:

App pictures jumbling up after a hard reset.
WiFi signal issues.
Speed of 3.1 compared to 3.0.
Occasionally unlocking phone and not having the backlight on to illuminate screen.
Battery life!!! Has it been improved?
Any word on a MobileMe App?


Speaking of Apps, why is there no iChat app yet?

I think there will be an iChat app when the iPhone gets a front-facing video camera. Apple will revolutionize video calling for mobile devices (as now, video calling on mobile phones is pants) and everyone will want the new iPhone - again. :p

epaminos
Jul 28, 2009, 03:22 AM
Has the Reset screen always had all of these options? I've not used Reset since v2 firmware and cannot recall having them then.

http://www.sneeks.co.uk/iphone3g/reset.jpg


Yeap, it is exactly the same!!!

thefunkymunky
Jul 28, 2009, 03:40 AM
Has this bug been fixed?

If you view a web page in Safari in portrait mode and tap a phone number (or any other element that is recognized by the data detectors) you get a buttoned option list as in the portrait picture below.

Now if you do the same in landscape mode the list not buttoned but scrollable :rolleyes: I would the assume the portrait version is the correct version. :confused:

cecemf
Jul 28, 2009, 05:29 AM
Thanks, I do have an App installed that gives me Emoji but when I get an SMS with a :-) it's still a :-) and not a http://spectacle-boat.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/Smiley%20Face.jpg


That's because Emoji's don't work like that ! There are on a different keyboard and only other iPhone or Japanese phone user will see them so you can't send them to anyone !

To see the keyboard you need to go to your keyboard settings then Japanase then you should have the Emoji's button to turn it on

ynotm
Jul 28, 2009, 05:50 AM
Has this bug been fixed?

If you view a web page in Safari in portrait mode and tap a phone number (or any other element that is recognized by the data detectors) you get a buttoned option list as in the portrait picture below.

Now if you do the same in landscape mode the list not buttoned but scrollable :rolleyes: I would the assume the portrait version is the correct version. :confused:

my guess is that's on purpose. if you had more than four buttons in landscape mode they would overflow the screen. Now you can scroll to the action of your choice.

michelle21
Jul 28, 2009, 06:49 AM
Not going to happen natively anytime soon.



Still "coming soon" as its been states since the day it was announced.



LOL



Nope. But that idisk app when it comes out connects to your mobileme - which connects to your shared hard disks if you have an Airport :)

http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/features/harddrivesharing.html

Access your drive over the Internet.Say you’re traveling and you need a file on the hard drive connected to your AirPort Extreme back at home. If you’re a MobileMe member using Mac OS X Leopard, no problem.* You can now access all the files on your shared drive over the Internet. Simply register your AirPort Extreme with your MobileMe account, and your drive appears in your Finder sidebar just like any other attached drive. It’s like having your own personal file server wherever you go.

If I understand what your asking for, What do we need another wi-fi disk access app for, there are many of these in the appstore. Thats probably why you're not seeing any new ones.

What could an "official" app do that those can't.

if you don't have a sticky ip address then there are pleanty of services that do dynamic dns updating. You don't need mobileme for that.

RainbowOfBeans
Jul 28, 2009, 07:14 AM
Can anyone comment on the fixes of the bugs I've found on 3.0:

App pictures jumbling up after a hard reset.
WiFi signal issues.
Speed of 3.1 compared to 3.0.
Occasionally unlocking phone and not having the backlight on to illuminate screen.
Battery life!!! Has it been improved?
Any word on a MobileMe App?


Speaking of Apps, why is there no iChat app yet?

I didn't have the 3.0 version more than like 3 days after getting my phone, now im on 3.1 beta 2 and i see alot of new bugs like you said here.

when upgrading to 3.1 my icons started switching out with other apps icons.
WiFi is very weak and is nothing like any other Mac WiFi ive used before.
the speed has increased comparing my phone to my bf's exact same phone, 3gs 32GB white. Mine moves right alone with his still trailing in the dust.:D
When it comes to unlocking the phone and the backlight not working i though this was just bug on my phone, good to know its not!:mad:

And although i have registered UDID that i paid to get, i cant fine a site yet to a 2nd or 3rd party with a download link for Beta 3......Ideas??:apple:

Also my phone with version 2 beta is still up and running today, i was worried id loose it all cause my laptops not here, but woke up this morning and its working fine. Dont understand why others are having problems?!?!?:confused:

ptsube
Jul 28, 2009, 07:55 AM
No data or details to support this, but I think this will be the final release before it goes public the first week of August. At least I hope that is what will happen.



MMS is ready, AT&T is just needing to unlock it. Tethering is just a matter of releasing details of how much money per month.
Not a chance. You're are looking at 2 more betas, 4-6 weeks minimum.

waterskier2007
Jul 28, 2009, 08:02 AM
i could be the only one that thinks this, but could there be a reason that apple had the beta 2 expire so early. could it be that they wanted to force devs to upgrade to b3 just so they could push out an update earlier. like later next week or shortly after?

NoahK17
Jul 28, 2009, 08:13 AM
Gotta love all these developers breaking the NDA.

Hope someone at Apple is paying attention.

NokX
Jul 28, 2009, 08:18 AM
someone send me a picture message of what the 3.1 update looks like.

OH WAIT...MY IPHONE CAN'T DO MMS.

TheSpaz
Jul 28, 2009, 08:25 AM
someone send me a picture message of what the 3.1 update looks like.

OH WAIT...MY IPHONE CAN'T DO MMS.

Got an email address?

acfusion29
Jul 28, 2009, 09:56 AM
When tethering, you have a dedicated usage section :)

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4605/photoncl.jpg

a1kim
Jul 28, 2009, 09:59 AM
Previous to this version, if you did Voice Control while using headphones, you wouldn't hear anything because the audio would only go through the iPhone speaker (not the headphones). Now the audio plays through the headphones. I'm very glad about this because I would always have to guess when to speak commands before since I couldn't hear the audio feedback.

NokX
Jul 28, 2009, 10:33 AM
Got an email address?

you're right. giving everyone in my contacts my email address and then me having to figure out what service all of my contacts are with so i can save the appropriate mobile email address for them is much easier than just sending an MMS. :P

allen099
Jul 28, 2009, 10:38 AM
Thanks, I do have an App installed that gives me Emoji but when I get an SMS with a :-) it's still a :-) and not a http://spectacle-boat.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/Smiley%20Face.jpg

As far as I know, there is no app that auto-converts incoming ":-)" to the actual :) . The only way I'm aware of this happening is if someone specifically sends an Emoji.

TheSpaz
Jul 28, 2009, 10:48 AM
you're right. giving everyone in my contacts my email address and then me having to figure out what service all of my contacts are with so i can save the appropriate mobile email address for them is much easier than just sending an MMS. :P

You wanted someone HERE to send you a picture through MMS of 3.1. Well, in order to do that, we need your phone number... however, I think giving out a phone number is a little more private than an email address.

So can we have your phone number then?

We can't send you an MMS without knowing your phone number.

iRich1G
Jul 28, 2009, 11:13 AM
Can anyone comment on the fixes of the bugs I've found on 3.0:

App pictures jumbling up after a hard reset.
WiFi signal issues.
Speed of 3.1 compared to 3.0.
Occasionally unlocking phone and not having the backlight on to illuminate screen.
Battery life!!! Has it been improved?
Any word on a MobileMe App?


Speaking of Apps, why is there no iChat app yet?

Exactly, these bugs have been irritating the @#%! out of me. I haven't seen much about the app bug. Judging from the response you got from the poster running 3.1 beta 2, the app icon issue still hasn't been fixed. And I thought the backlight issue was only my phone. I hope the developers report these bugs, and they're fixed by the final release.:confused:

ThunderSkunk
Jul 28, 2009, 12:07 PM
If I understand what your asking for, What do we need another wi-fi disk access app for, there are many of these in the appstore. Thats probably why you're not seeing any new ones.

Well, since Apples got all kinds of PR out there (not including the mobileme box & sales kid, who say it is already out) saying it's coming, as well as images of it working, and they're still using it as fairly major selling point in their mobileme service, I would certainly hope that they'd come out with it.

What could an "official" app do that those can't. if you don't have a sticky ip address then there are pleanty of services that do dynamic dns updating. You don't need mobileme for that.

Can you get that service, plus everything else mobileme comes with, integrated as seamlessly and conveniently as a mobileme acct, at the same price?

...not that it matters much in reality, as I still can't edit any of the files I'd be accessing on the phone anyway I guess. Guess I could send them to an on-site computer... course, if that computer has inet access to get the email, then I might as well just access them from that computer to begin with. & if the computer doesn't have inet access, I'd need em on a usb drive, which the iphone, has no way of sending data to, or acting as. Unlike every other phone or even ipod. Guess this is a smart phone, so long as it is very private and doesn't talk to other devices.

---fun fact of the day---

The word "Idiot" derives from the greek word "Idios" meaning "Private Person" or one who chooses to close themself off from the community and live an insular, sheltered life.

Perhaps that's what the "i" stands for in "iPhone".

I have an idiotphone?

bmoorhouse
Jul 28, 2009, 12:17 PM
works.

How do you install it? I have a copy of Netshare, but every time I try to install it on my new 3Gs, iTunes gives me an error.

Lycanthrope
Jul 28, 2009, 12:18 PM
I had problems with certificates in 2.0 but never tried it in 3.0. In 3.1 I have no problems with our exchange server and active sync.

Cheers

Indeed it was fine in 2.x.x but 3.0 broke the certificate insomuch as it presented blank credentials.

Note that if I connect to Exchange server through my company's corporate WiFi then all is fine, the issue is when I come through other networks, then it fails on authentication.

More here:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2045511&tstart=1

NeroAZ
Jul 28, 2009, 12:32 PM
I do not understand the complaints about bricked iphones or the beta 2 expiring. I didn't get home until after midnight today. I was listening to music on my phone and even used my phone before i installed beta 3 and it was working fine.

pwalkin
Jul 28, 2009, 01:30 PM
Gotta love all these developers breaking the NDA.

Hope someone at Apple is paying attention.


Yep! That thought has entered my mind a few hundred times.

fraggot
Jul 28, 2009, 01:42 PM
Yep! That thought has entered my mind a few hundred times.

Not that it really matters, or Devs would have been getting busted all along. It's not like showing screenshots of upcoming Firmwares is a new thing.

iphones4evry1
Jul 28, 2009, 02:59 PM
"Apple is reportedly relying on new developer tools present in iPhone OS 3.1 to deploy augmented reality applications that are capable of overlaying live video from the iPhone's camera with real-time data."

You know that airport screener technology that allows them to see through peoples' clothes? I wonder if that will become an augmented reality App?

Of course, I would rather have something more useful. Like, the ability to see through walls. That would be a cool augmented reality App - if you hold your phone up to a wall, it overlays on the wall what is behind the wall (kind of like Google Street View; not real-time, but still useful).

MadGoat
Jul 28, 2009, 04:27 PM
Try to go a little away from the base station, you'll notice. I have a 2 floor apartment and it was perfectly okay to use wifi on both floors w/2.2 software. Now I cannot get a connection on the other floor, so it must be because of 3.0 changed something.

I live in a 2 story house with a basement. OS 3.0 on 3GS in a case.

My router is in the basement and I am able to get my wifi in the backyard, front, garage, main floor and all up on the second floor without any drops.

Currently on the 2nd floor with 3/3 wifi bars bluetooth is also enabled, disable makes no difference.

MarceePauff
Jul 28, 2009, 04:47 PM
I'm on a first gen and 3.0 completely broke my wifi. Completely. Everything was working fine before 3.0. After 3.0 I have half my original battery life and ZERO wifi. How can apple put out software that breaks their hardware and then not give us any options? The least they can do is let me downgrade so my phone works again.

The "genius" at the store said they are aware of the '3.0 wifi problem' although apple hasn't made an official statement. He said that hopefully 3.1 will fix the problem. It's not looking likely. Does anyone know if it's truly fixed?

rodreano
Jul 28, 2009, 05:53 PM
i recently replaced my iphone 3g running 3.0 to an iphone 3g on 2.2.1 and its incredible how much cleaner and smoother it runs. So for now im not upgrading to 3.0 until 3.1 is officially released. can anyone confirm that 3.1 is indeed faster than 3.0?

tempusfugit
Jul 28, 2009, 05:53 PM
That sounds like a pretty unfortunate situation with the wifi, I haven't heard anything about a fix in 3.1 but then again, my 3G works fine in 3.0+



It was a surprise though when my phone stopped working while I was out of town due to "expired software" (I had 3.1 beta 1 still as of last night).

I had to find a caribou coffee to go online with my mbp and download beta 3 in order to get the phone working, how unpleasant! my fault I know for not putting on beta 2 before then.

lucas
Jul 28, 2009, 08:17 PM
I had to find a caribou coffee to go online with my mbp and download beta 3 in order to get the phone working, how unpleasant! my fault I know for not putting on beta 2 before then.
wouldnt have made a difference. beta 2 expired yesterday too. it was supposed to happen at midnight device local time, but mine just up and died a bit after 2pm. beta 3 should have come out a week ago IMO

TheSpaz
Jul 28, 2009, 08:41 PM
i recently replaced my iphone 3g running 3.0 to an iphone 3g on 2.2.1 and its incredible how much cleaner and smoother it runs. So for now im not upgrading to 3.0 until 3.1 is officially released. can anyone confirm that 3.1 is indeed faster than 3.0?

Unfortunately 3.1 is a lot like 3.0.

By the way... I've downgraded to 2.2.1 again because it ran so much smoother and cleaner. Even when you're playing music in 2.2.1, the OS doesn't bog down much. 3.0/3.1 is horrible with that kind of stuff. Enjoy 2.2.1 because I think it's the last OS that is going to run nice on the old iPhone 3G hardware.

jingles8302
Jul 28, 2009, 10:02 PM
Thanks, I do have an App installed that gives me Emoji but when I get an SMS with a :-) it's still a :-) and not a http://spectacle-boat.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/Smiley%20Face.jpg

The other person sending you a SMS needs to have emoji on their phone aswell and be using the emoji icons in order for you to see the proper icon.

vizkiz
Jul 28, 2009, 10:35 PM
The other person sending you a SMS needs to have emoji on their phone aswell and be using the emoji icons in order for you to see the proper icon.

No they don't. I've sent emoji to people with iPhones and they ask me, "how the hell did you do that?"
All they need is an iPhone running 2.2.1 or higher, and they'll see the emoji just fine.

allen099
Jul 28, 2009, 11:26 PM
No they don't. I've sent emoji to people with iPhones and they ask me, "how the hell did you do that?"
All they need is an iPhone running 2.2.1 or higher, and they'll see the emoji just fine.

That's correct. I don't understand what the big deal is with making it available world-wide vs. just for Japanese iPhones. I guess somethings we'll never get.

MarceePauff
Jul 29, 2009, 10:31 AM
Unfortunately 3.1 is a lot like 3.0.

By the way... I've downgraded to 2.2.1 again because it ran so much smoother and cleaner. Even when you're playing music in 2.2.1, the OS doesn't bog down much. 3.0/3.1 is horrible with that kind of stuff. Enjoy 2.2.1 because I think it's the last OS that is going to run nice on the old iPhone 3G hardware.

Please can you direct me to a step-by-step on downgrading to 2.2.1. Every time I've tried I've run into errors. Do I need an older version of iTunes? Any tips, tricks, hints or suggestions would help. I'm on an original 2g, recently jailbroken (hoping I could find a fix for my wifi, but didn't).

Thanks.

TheSpaz
Jul 29, 2009, 10:34 AM
Please can you direct me to a step-by-step on downgrading to 2.2.1. Every time I've tried I've run into errors. Do I need an older version of iTunes? Any tips, tricks, hints or suggestions would help. I'm on an original 2g, recently jailbroken (hoping I could find a fix for my wifi, but didn't).

Thanks.

This always works for me:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=753410

Good luck man! 2.2.1 is going to be a nice breath of fresh air.

ShannaSchueller
Jul 29, 2009, 10:51 AM
I have 3 things that they need to fix but I don't know if it's apple or At&T.

1. Turn on MMS for users.
2. When receiving TxT message turn off who they are from. Like it the old way when it just said "New Text Message"
3. Have video for Iphone 3g users...

That's all I ask.

2. I think I'd rather it say who it's from.
3. I know someone who had a jailbroken iphone 3g with video.

allen099
Jul 29, 2009, 01:09 PM
This always works for me:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=753410

Good luck man! 2.2.1 is going to be a nice breath of fresh air.

Anytime you downgrade the OS, from what I read on the iPhone Dev site, you run a high risk of killing your phone permanently because of the baseband. Now, I don't know if the baseband was changed for the 2G iPhone, so it might be possible for that one without any trickery. Do beware when using the linked method though.

*Edit: Sorry, just re-read the original post. It was a 2G iPhone being referred to. Still, serves a good warning for anyone with 3G/3GS iPhone thinking of downgrading.

TheSpaz
Jul 29, 2009, 01:19 PM
Anytime you downgrade the OS, from what I read on the iPhone Dev site, you run a high risk of killing your phone permanently because of the baseband. Now, I don't know if the baseband was changed for the 2G iPhone, so it might be possible for that one without any trickery. Do beware when using the linked method though.

*Edit: Sorry, just re-read the original post. It was a 2G iPhone being referred to. Still, serves a good warning for anyone with 3G/3GS iPhone thinking of downgrading.

1. 2.2.1 will not kill your phone just because you're on a different baseband.
2. You can't downgrade an iPhone 3GS anyway.
3. My iPhone has been working fine on a downgraded 2.2.1 since May. I've upgraded and downgraded multiple times too.
4. The baseband was not changed for the original iPhone.

An iPhone hasn't been bricked in a very long time.

Any chance you can show me the page where you read that stuff from the Dev site?

allen099
Jul 29, 2009, 01:48 PM
1. 2.2.1 will not kill your phone just because you're on a different baseband.
2. You can't downgrade an iPhone 3GS anyway.
3. My iPhone has been working fine on a downgraded 2.2.1 since May. I've upgraded and downgraded multiple times too.
4. The baseband was not changed for the original iPhone.

An iPhone hasn't been bricked in a very long time.

Any chance you can show me the page where you read that stuff from the Dev site?

I know that 2.2.1 will not kill your phone. However, for a 3G (I am aware that 3GS cannot be downgraded), the 2.2.1 s/w needs to be modified in a way to avoid downgrading the baseband. I'm not an expert with this particular thing and I'm sorry, I don't want to go digging around for that post I read months ago. There are ways of safely downgrading the baseband and they're all over google (one is here: http://www.iphone-hacks.com/2009/04/19/dowgrade-iphone-3g-baseband-from-23003-to-22800). But I do know that you cannot just downgrade the 2.2.1 s/w and expect all to be ok with 3G phones.

TheSpaz
Jul 29, 2009, 01:52 PM
I know that 2.2.1 will not kill your phone. However, for a 3G (I am aware that 3GS cannot be downgraded), the 2.2.1 s/w needs to be modified in a way to avoid downgrading the baseband. I'm not an expert with this particular thing and I'm sorry, I don't want to go digging around for that post I read months ago. There are ways of safely downgrading the baseband and they're all over google (one is here: http://www.iphone-hacks.com/2009/04/19/dowgrade-iphone-3g-baseband-from-23003-to-22800). But I do know that you cannot just downgrade the 2.2.1 s/w and expect all to be ok with 3G phones.

Downgrading to 2.2.1 does NOT downgrade the baseband. I don't think there's a "safe" way to downgrade the baseband.

allen099
Jul 29, 2009, 01:59 PM
Downgrading to 2.2.1 does NOT downgrade the baseband. I don't think there's a "safe" way to downgrade the baseband.

Is that the case for this specific downgrade? Because I do remember this being an issue for downgrading the other OS 2.x.x bundles. If I'm wrong, cool. Better for everyone else :)

TheSpaz
Jul 29, 2009, 02:03 PM
Is that the case for this specific downgrade? Because I do remember this being an issue for downgrading the other OS 2.x.x bundles. If I'm wrong, cool. Better for everyone else :)

The software did not need to be modified to avoid downgrading the baseband because downgrading to 2.2.1 does not modify the baseband at all. I'm on 2.2.1 with baseband version 05.10.01.

What happens when downgrading is iTunes gets confused because it sees the newer baseband puts you back in recovery mode. The official 2.2.1 is actually installed on your iPhone, it just won't boot up. That's why you have to use QuickPwn in Windows to kick the device out of recovery mode and boot up. QuickPwn sends an "fsboot" signal to the iPhone and it boots up. Pretty cool.

As far as I can tell, the modem firmware is not affecting my 3G signal at all and my iPhone still acts like it always has except for the fact that it's running much better in 2.2.1 than 3.1 (beta 3).

MarceePauff
Jul 29, 2009, 05:42 PM
Just FYI, I just downgraded to 2.2.1. I'm on an original 2G and I didn't even need to use Windows Quickpwn. It downgraded with Pwnage and worked perfectly, even with iTunes.

Only problem is: I still don't have wifi. I was under the impression that to fix my wifi, I'd need to downgrade the baseband as well, but I'm just not ready to mess with that hack. The only reason I tried the downgrade in the first place was to fix the wifi...it didn't fix it. So I'll probably upgrade back to 3.0 just because some of my software won't work with 2.2.1. Oh well. At least I gave it a shot.

diamond.g
Jul 30, 2009, 06:18 AM
Just FYI, I just downgraded to 2.2.1. I'm on an original 2G and I didn't even need to use Windows Quickpwn. It downgraded with Pwnage and worked perfectly, even with iTunes.

Only problem is: I still don't have wifi. I was under the impression that to fix my wifi, I'd need to downgrade the baseband as well, but I'm just not ready to mess with that hack. The only reason I tried the downgrade in the first place was to fix the wifi...it didn't fix it. So I'll probably upgrade back to 3.0 just because some of my software won't work with 2.2.1. Oh well. At least I gave it a shot.
The original iPhones baseband didn't get upgraded. Plus the baseband is referring to the cell radio not the wifi one.

MarceePauff
Jul 30, 2009, 12:28 PM
The original iPhones baseband didn't get upgraded. Plus the baseband is referring to the cell radio not the wifi one.

When I go to "about" it says my Modem Firmware is 04.05.04_G - it upgraded along with 3.0 but will not downgrade no matter what firmware I install. I thought, perhaps, that had something to do with it.

TheSpaz
Jul 30, 2009, 12:32 PM
When I go to "about" it says my Modem Firmware is 04.05.04_G - it upgraded along with 3.0 but will not downgrade no matter what firmware I install. I thought, perhaps, that had something to do with it.

3.0 did not update the baseband on the original iPhone.

MarceePauff
Jul 30, 2009, 03:14 PM
*deleted* It doesn't matter.
My wi-fi doesn't work. :(

rbrt86
Aug 9, 2009, 10:15 AM
3.0 did not update the baseband on the original iPhone.

It didn't upgrade the baseband on the 2G, but it did on the 3G:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_OS_version_history

A lot of people have this issue since the 3.0 update. Some of them have it directly, others experience the problems after a couple of days. There's a long tread going on about this on the Apple forum (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2044754&start=510&tstart=0) and by now we've reached the point that the baseband upgrade caused the problems

I downgraded from 3.0 to 2.0.2. without wifi, and an upgrade to 2.2.1 didn't help either. I can't download my baseband due to my 5.09 bootloader but I'm pretty sure that the baseband upgrade caused this. According to the wiki page, every beta of 3.1 has had a baseband upgrade so far. Has anyone with 3.1 beta 3 experienced any wifi difficulties?