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But30
Jul 27, 2009, 10:12 PM
I am planning to buy mac book air, is there an update or upgrade
coming this year? Is it better to wait a bit or buy now?
Thanks



Creative One
Jul 27, 2009, 10:13 PM
I am planning to buy mac book air, is there an update or upgrade
coming this year? Is it better to wait a bit or buy now?
Thanks

How should we know?

Tallest Skil
Jul 27, 2009, 10:14 PM
Whenever Arrandale happens. That'll be early 2010.

arcangel6
Jul 27, 2009, 11:02 PM
I am planning to buy mac book air, is there an update or upgrade
coming this year? Is it better to wait a bit or buy now?
Thanks

Click on the "Buyer's Guide" tab at the top right side of this screen. For the Macbook Air it says:

Recommendation: Buy Now! - Product just updated

I just bought one and love it....get it with the SSD!

Joe

tupelo3
Jul 28, 2009, 12:19 AM
I was struggling with all the same issues....

I wanted a full glass trackpad. I was concerned about the screen lines. I was concerned that 2MB of RAM wasnt gonna be enough etc.

I ended up finally deciding that i couldnt wait and bought a REV B 1.8, 128 SSD refurb from the Apple store for $1499 right before they released the REV C 2.13 refurb for $1599?

In any case, i absolutely love this thing. Its the best computer ive ever owned. I love the trackpad. The thing is plenty fast and i have zero problems with it. Its my primary computer and im thrilled to have it, fwiw.

fun173
Jul 28, 2009, 01:05 AM
yea they were just updated not too long ago i say buy one now

Gruber
Jul 28, 2009, 03:41 AM
The last update was very minor (2.13GHz option added to the line, and slightly different thermal management). The Air is long overdue for a substantial update. This autumn, we will see a plethora of thin-and-light PC notebooks, and Apple might want to give the Air a little boost to make it ride that wave nicely.

My bet is that we get at least more memory, a new trackpad and maybe a couple more ports in October.

But no-one really knows the unfathomable ways of his Steveness. It could be that new updates take place in early 2010. Or just quietly, any day. 2GB is really not enough for some of us.

zedsdead
Jul 28, 2009, 05:27 AM
Wait for the next revision. There are too many issue with the current model.

Veinticinco
Jul 28, 2009, 06:22 AM
Depends on how badly you need (or want) it.

If you can wait anything from 3-6 months, then I'd really recommend you do so, because the next version will a big jump in specs. Not to mention most of the currently substandard issues (e.g. poor QC on displays) ironed out.

JasG
Jul 28, 2009, 07:47 AM
I myself went back and forth between MBP 13 and the Air. my head said mbp; my heart the air. I know all the criticism here, and I also know many people who love theirs. I know that X number of months from now a new and improved model will be released. So I ordered a MBP 13 and rented an Air while I waited for it to arrive. And yesterday I cancelled the order for the MBP and ordered the AIR. I just could not resist the weight. I carry the machine all around. I use an optical drive about once or twice a year. Good luck

PaperMacWriter
Jul 28, 2009, 10:16 AM
I was concerned that 2MB of RAM wasnt gonna be enough etc. Yeah, just 2MB of RAM can seem a bit slow at times...:p I believe you meant 2GB of RAM...

Anywhoo, the rev. c models are now refurbs, so I'd get the 2.13GHz one with 128GB of SSD (http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC234LL/A?mco=MjE0Njc4Ng). The best raw power under three pounds that $1,549 can buy:)

SG:apple:

tupelo3
Jul 28, 2009, 10:22 AM
Yeah, just 2MB of RAM can seem a bit slow at times...:p I believe you meant 2GB of RAM...

Anywhoo, the rev. c models are now refurbs, so I'd get the 2.13GHz one with 128GB of SSD (http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC234LL/A?mco=MjE0Njc4Ng). The best raw power under three pounds that $1,549 can buy:)

SG:apple:

Needless to say, my specific refurb was severely under-powered, lol. Thanks for the fix. :)

entatlrg
Jul 28, 2009, 12:42 PM
buy it now, you'll love it

i recommend the 1.8 / 128ssd version over the 2.1, the 1.8 runs cooler and quieter in my experience.

I have three mac's, (see my sig), the Air is my favorite, with the price of them now it's a steal!

Veinticinco
Jul 28, 2009, 03:24 PM
Anywhoo, the rev. c models are now refurbs, so I'd get the 2.13GHz one with 128GB of SSD (http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC234LL/A?mco=MjE0Njc4Ng). The best raw power under three pounds that $1,549 can buy:)
Before everyone gets their panties wet at this news (rev.C refurbs), is anyone actually asking WHY?

Personally I think it's extremely early to be selling out refurbs after what, 6 weeks of the rev.C being released. As before pre-WWDC when may of us were speculating about refurbs and inventory, it's either one of two things...

EITHER an increasing mountain of returns (probably due to either crappy display issues or buyer's remorse re. the MBP 13") which may who knows eventually lead to mothballing the product line effectively immediately;

OR there's a much-needed rev.D to be released after the summer break (i.e. September) with 4GB RAM onboard, 256GB SSD, improved (nearer 7-hr) battery tech, maybe the SD card slot, but definitely a fix to the display issues that have been plaguing the MBA for 10 months;

Either way, it's not good news if you're a current MBA owner. Since I rejected the B for display issues, and wasn't wowed or reassured about the C, I'm really hoping it's the latter.

Interesting though that the rev.C refurbs are only as yet in the US not in Europe. In contrast, the rev.B refurbs showed up here about 6 weeks earlier than the US - note that was still well over 3 months post-release double the rev.C refurb timeline. Not sure of the relevance of that but still. After all, we still don't have the 24" ACD in the refurb store yet.

But30
Jul 31, 2009, 07:39 AM
Thank you, I hope they do a major upgrade in October.

kntgsp
Jul 31, 2009, 09:29 AM
Before everyone gets their panties wet at this news (rev.C refurbs), is anyone actually asking WHY?

Personally I think it's extremely early to be selling out refurbs after what, 6 weeks of the rev.C being released. As before pre-WWDC when may of us were speculating about refurbs and inventory, it's either one of two things...

EITHER an increasing mountain of returns (probably due to either crappy display issues or buyer's remorse re. the MBP 13") which may who knows eventually lead to mothballing the product line effectively immediately;


I haven't seen an Apple product that didn't have a refurb available after 1-2 months. Not a single one.


OR there's a much-needed rev.D to be released after the summer break (i.e. September) with 4GB RAM onboard, 256GB SSD, improved (nearer 7-hr) battery tech, maybe the SD card slot, but definitely a fix to the display issues that have been plaguing the MBA for 10 months;


4GB update January at the earliest (holiday refresh is very unlikely) and isn't incredibly urgent as no sane person tries to encode massive amounts of video or run 12 different apps at the same time on an ultraportable. 256GB SSD in 1.8" is horrendously expensive with 55nm and only made by a select few. Intel is the only manufacturer with 34nm fab and doesn't offer the 1.8" higher than 160 nor with LIF connectors. SD slot doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell.


Either way, it's not good news if you're a current MBA owner. Since I rejected the B for display issues, and wasn't wowed or reassured about the C, I'm really hoping it's the latter.


The display "issue" was a DOA-able defect. Had a friend get one DOA'd for it on Rev. B. Rev C's don't appear to have any major display issues.


Interesting though that the rev.C refurbs are only as yet in the US not in Europe. In contrast, the rev.B refurbs showed up here about 6 weeks earlier than the US - note that was still well over 3 months post-release double the rev.C refurb timeline. Not sure of the relevance of that but still. After all, we still don't have the 24" ACD in the refurb store yet.


There is none.

I've seen multiple 24" ACD's in the refurb store. Simply that an item is currently listed or not listed on a refurb store is no indicator of overall refurbs whatsoever. The item is removed if there are no available refurbs. Just because someone checks the refurb store, sees none, checks it 2 weeks later, sees none, doesn't mean there haven't been any. I've seen refurbs go up and get snagged down within hours.

kntgsp
Jul 31, 2009, 09:31 AM
Thank you, I hope they do a major upgrade in October.

Again, won't happen until there's a new chipset (i.e. Q1 of 2010). The only bump I could see them making at all is 4GB RAM as a silent spec bump. But the performance difference would be negligible. People who need 4GB of RAM on an Air....obviously need something more powerful in other areas as well. OS X is nowhere near the resource hog as Vista. On a desktop 4GB should be standard now, but there's really no earth shattering reason for an ultraportable to have 4GB.

256GB SSD in 1.8" with LIF connectors is so horrendously expensive it would end up raising the price point of the higher model by a substantial amount. Can't see Apple raising the price point again without a chipset update. It'd drive away users who have been drawn to the unit by the price decrease.

MacModMachine
Jul 31, 2009, 09:34 AM
Again, won't happen until there's a new chipset (i.e. Q1 of 2010). The only bump I could see them making at all is 4GB RAM as a silent spec bump. But the performance difference would be negligible. People who need 4GB of RAM on an Air....obviously need something more powerful in other areas as well. OS X is nowhere near the resource hog as Vista. On a desktop 4GB should be standard now, but there's really no earth shattering reason for an ultraportable to have 4GB.

256GB SSD in 1.8" with LIF connectors is so horrendously expensive it would end up raising the price point of the higher model by a substantial amount. Can't see Apple raising the price point again without a chipset update.

can you point me into the direction of these 256gb LIF ssd's ? i would like to purchase one...expensive or not.

thanks

kntgsp
Jul 31, 2009, 09:56 AM
can you point me into the direction of these 256gb LIF ssd's ? i would like to purchase one...expensive or not.

thanks

Toshiba announced one a few months ago. A 256GB 1.8" SSD that is, but no mention of whether it has LIF connections. There are SATA/power to LIF adapters, but I don't know if there's enough room in an Air to fit both the SSD and an adapter. I think it has to have the native connection for it to fit.

Gruber
Jul 31, 2009, 10:19 AM
People who need 4GB of RAM on an Air....obviously need something more powerful in other areas as well. ... On a desktop 4GB should be standard now, but there's really no earth shattering reason for an ultraportable to have 4GB.

Nope. The speed difference between Air and MBP is negligible for me. I use my laptop for coding on the go, and 2GB is not enough for me. Also, I use desktops at home and in the company, and I want my portable to be as portable as possible.

Also, I expect my notebooks to serve for about three years. I am willing to pay more than 2K but I am not buying a notebook that feels tight in the memory department.

In other words: even if I would use my Air only for Photoshop and Keynote and Office, I would not spend 1.5K on a system that maxes out at 2GB. I bet that many of those that think that 2GB is ample are not in the market for an ultraportable, but would prefer a netbook. So Apple should care, and they probably will do so, sooner than 2010.

iMacmatician
Jul 31, 2009, 10:24 AM
I predict Arrandale in H1 2010. We'll likely see 4 GB then.

kntgsp
Jul 31, 2009, 11:37 AM
Nope. The speed difference between Air and MBP is negligible for me. I use my laptop for coding on the go, and 2GB is not enough for me. Also, I use desktops at home and in the company, and I want my portable to be as portable as possible.

Also, I expect my notebooks to serve for about three years. I am willing to pay more than 2K but I am not buying a notebook that feels tight in the memory department.

In other words: even if I would use my Air only for Photoshop and Keynote and Office, I would not spend 1.5K on a system that maxes out at 2GB. I bet that many of those that think that 2GB is ample are not in the market for an ultraportable, but would prefer a netbook. So Apple should care, and they probably will do so, sooner than 2010.

O_o Never said they don't care. But a RAM refresh before the chipset update in 2010? Doubtful. You want a non-upgradeable ultraportable to serve you three years as a heavy duty coding platform..... Seems like you'd obviously be happier with a 13" MBP, if not for the battery life alone. But surely the added 1.5 lbs would render you immobile.

And many of those that think 2GB is ample, simply don't require more than that since all they do is use iTunes, Firefox and Mail. Better round up all those MBP purchasers. What a horrible mistake they've made. They should all be using netbooks.

Gruber
Jul 31, 2009, 01:32 PM
But a RAM refresh before the chipset update in 2010?

Apple's update of the Air at WWDC only took place in the marketing department, the platform has not really changed. Since development is a continuous process at Apple, they can decide to launch improvements any time they want (as they often did in the past).

You want a non-upgradeable ultraportable to serve you three years as a heavy duty coding platform..... Seems like you'd obviously be happier with a 13" MBP, if not for the battery life alone.

I prefer not to have my preferences dictated by someone else, please.

For me, portability is the key priority. In my experience, I left my laptop at home as often as I could when it was still 6 lbs. And I always take it with me since it is 2 lbs, which means that I produce a lot more incidental work. No way I am going back to 6 lbs.

My heavy duty work requires using our company servers. Still, my notebook computer frees my to move around whenever I feel like, and allows me to work during conferences, or during a recreational walk in the park, when inspiration strikes.

I have been in the market for an ultraportable Mac for a long time (I have gotten rid of the Air Rev A because it was too sluggish, and I think that it is slightly too large). I am going to buy if the device is right, and I do not care a bit about the price. Until then, I will stick with the TT (even though it has a superfluous optical drive).

Maserati7200
Jul 31, 2009, 02:27 PM
Apple's update of the Air at WWDC only took place in the marketing department, the platform has not really changed. Since development is a continuous process at Apple, they can decide to launch improvements any time they want (as they often did in the past).



I prefer not to have my preferences dictated by someone else, please.

For me, portability is the key priority. In my experience, I left my laptop at home as often as I could when it was still 6 lbs. And I always take it with me since it is 2 lbs, which means that I produce a lot more incidental work. No way I am going back to 6 lbs.

My heavy duty work requires using our company servers. Still, my notebook computer frees my to move around whenever I feel like, and allows me to work during conferences, or during a recreational walk in the park, when inspiration strikes.

I have been in the market for an ultraportable Mac for a long time (I have gotten rid of the Air Rev A because it was too sluggish, and I think that it is slightly too large). I am going to buy if the device is right, and I do not care a bit about the price. Until then, I will stick with the TT (even though it has a superfluous optical drive).

You do realize that the 13" MBP is 4.5 lbs, not 6, right? Even the 15" MBP is less than 6 pounds.

jamesryanbell
Jul 31, 2009, 03:07 PM
Wait for the next revision. There are too many issue with the current model.

As much as I like the air, I have to agree.

Fix the screen lines, give it a 256SSD and 4GB of RAM, and I'm on board.

kntgsp
Jul 31, 2009, 03:56 PM
As much as I like the air, I have to agree.

Fix the screen lines, give it a 256SSD and 4GB of RAM, and I'm on board.

Screen lines are apparently fixed as of Rev. C. I've seen mine, a colleagues and two in the local Apple reseller, none of which had lines. On the A's it seems to be quite common.

256GB SSD in 1.8" with LIF connector would drive the price back up over $2k easily and I don't even think anyone makes one. Toshiba only recently announced a 256 1.8" SSD, but there's no word on whether it would fit in the MBA, let alone whether they will make it with LIF connectors.

4GB RAM I wouldn't mind. But not a deal breaker for me.

I can't see Apple hiking the Air back up to the two and a half thousand mark after seeing the huge sales boost the line got from the dropped prices.

Scottsdale
Jul 31, 2009, 07:57 PM
256GB SSD in 1.8" with LIF connectors is so horrendously expensive it would end up raising the price point of the higher model by a substantial amount. Can't see Apple raising the price point again without a chipset update. It'd drive away users who have been drawn to the unit by the price decrease.

I think it's 100% POSSIBLE that the new high-end MBA rev C has NOT yet been released. It would be MORE EXPENSIVE for certain if it had a 256 GB SSD and 4 GB RAM. I think we could see it BEFORE Arrandale chips! I believe it just wasn't ready in time and the current high-end will be the low end.

I give it a 50/50 shot that we see an added high-end before Arrandale. I also believe that we could see a revised rev D MBA before Arrandale even. I think Apple would still want to take advantage of Nvidia chipset and GPU with the same C2D 2.13 GHz CPU... I think it's 50/50 on it being rev C high end or rev D and changed with the 3G card, glass trackpad, and all the component upgrades...

I would think that the recent rev C "update" was NOT the real intended update for the MBA. I think we see a new MBA, even if called a MacBook before the MBPs are updated again. I also believe it could include a 15" version as a high possibility... still not probable.

Capitalizing on the "MacBook" brand and moving forward with the technologies learned with the MBA makes sense. Also, Apple is definitely moving towards optical drive-less Mac notebooks and the MBA form factor saves so much weight and space less the dang optical drive.

Importantly, a series of MacBooks that also include an external optical drive, in both 13" and 15" models make so very much sense for the "CONSUMERS" in the market. EVERYONE loves the MBA when they use it... the RAM and SSD updates are the final pieces to the project that make it powerful enough and large enough drive. Also, it cannot cost Apple too much more to make an MBA than a MBP in the same size. The drive sizes would probably include a 128 GB SSD and a higher end 256 GB SSD for more money or in the high end.

I really see this happening before Winter! It could even include an OLED display. One more thing... the reason I am convinced it happens BEFORE Arrandale is the dispute between Nvidia and Intel. Apple cannot put a discrete graphics card in this Mac notebook. And, Apple CANNOT put the worthless integrated Intel graphics... so Apple may really want this particular Mac notebook done before that dispute happens... It would DEFINITELY include a Core 2 Duo CPU... assuming that is correct.

kntgsp
Aug 1, 2009, 06:42 AM
I think it's 100% POSSIBLE that the new high-end MBA rev C has NOT yet been released. It would be MORE EXPENSIVE for certain if it had a 256 GB SSD and 4 GB RAM. I think we could see it BEFORE Arrandale chips! I believe it just wasn't ready in time and the current high-end will be the low end.

I give it a 50/50 shot that we see an added high-end before Arrandale. I also believe that we could see a revised rev D MBA before Arrandale even. I think Apple would still want to take advantage of Nvidia chipset and GPU with the same C2D 2.13 GHz CPU... I think it's 50/50 on it being rev C high end or rev D and changed with the 3G card, glass trackpad, and all the component upgrades...

I would think that the recent rev C "update" was NOT the real intended update for the MBA. I think we see a new MBA, even if called a MacBook before the MBPs are updated again. I also believe it could include a 15" version as a high possibility... still not probable.

Capitalizing on the "MacBook" brand and moving forward with the technologies learned with the MBA makes sense. Also, Apple is definitely moving towards optical drive-less Mac notebooks and the MBA form factor saves so much weight and space less the dang optical drive.

Importantly, a series of MacBooks that also include an external optical drive, in both 13" and 15" models make so very much sense for the "CONSUMERS" in the market. EVERYONE loves the MBA when they use it... the RAM and SSD updates are the final pieces to the project that make it powerful enough and large enough drive. Also, it cannot cost Apple too much more to make an MBA than a MBP in the same size. The drive sizes would probably include a 128 GB SSD and a higher end 256 GB SSD for more money or in the high end.

I really see this happening before Winter! It could even include an OLED display. One more thing... the reason I am convinced it happens BEFORE Arrandale is the dispute between Nvidia and Intel. Apple cannot put a discrete graphics card in this Mac notebook. And, Apple CANNOT put the worthless integrated Intel graphics... so Apple may really want this particular Mac notebook done before that dispute happens... It would DEFINITELY include a Core 2 Duo CPU... assuming that is correct.

That is a whole lotta wharrgarbl in one post. Step away from the bong.

iMacmatician
Aug 1, 2009, 06:47 PM
That is a whole lotta wharrgarbl in one post. Step away from the bong.There's an unusually high amount of optimism on the MacBook Air front. The kind that usually leads to inevitable disappointment.

Was anybody realistically expecting a significantly larger MacBook Air update than what we got in June? I wasn't…

jamesryanbell
Aug 2, 2009, 09:28 AM
Screen lines are apparently fixed as of Rev. C. I've seen mine, a colleagues and two in the local Apple reseller, none of which had lines. On the A's it seems to be quite common.


Many people have posted that *EVERY* Rev C they've seen has lines....as much or moreso than the Rev Bs. ??



256GB SSD in 1.8" with LIF connector would drive the price back up over $2k easily and I don't even think anyone makes one. Toshiba only recently announced a 256 1.8" SSD, but there's no word on whether it would fit in the MBA, let alone whether they will make it with LIF connectors.



Yeah, I didn't expect them to do it right now, but that's the space I'd need. :) One day! :)



4GB RAM I wouldn't mind. But not a deal breaker for me.



I think I'd need it, honestly.

I can't see Apple hiking the Air back up to the two and a half thousand mark after seeing the huge sales boost the line got from the dropped prices.[/QUOTE]

zedsdead
Aug 2, 2009, 09:30 AM
Many people have posted that *EVERY* Rev C they've seen has lines....as much or moreso than the Rev Bs. ??



Yeah, I didn't expect them to do it right now, but that's the space I'd need. :) One day! :)



I think I'd need it, honestly.

I can't see Apple hiking the Air back up to the two and a half thousand mark after seeing the huge sales boost the line got from the dropped prices.[/QUOTE]

The screen issue is just as widespread on the REV C as the REV B. It does not effect every model, but the conscious seems to be that over 90% are affected.

Between two Apple Stores and Two Best Buy's, I have seen over 10 Macbook Air's, plus I had 2 models of the REV B. Only 1 did not have the line issue, which was a display model in the Walt Whitman Apple Store on Long Island NY (REV B). Haven't seen one without lines since, and I check every now and then.

kntgsp
Aug 2, 2009, 10:54 AM
The screen issue is just as widespread on the REV C as the REV B. It does not effect every model, but the conscious seems to be that over 90% are affected.

Between two Apple Stores and Two Best Buy's, I have seen over 10 Macbook Air's, plus I had 2 models of the REV B. Only 1 did not have the line issue, which was a display model in the Walt Whitman Apple Store on Long Island NY (REV B). Haven't seen one without lines since, and I check every now and then.

That's interesting to note. I have a lot of friends and colleagues with Macs, and I haven't heard a single complaint about the Rev. C. Only that some wish it had more RAM (despite the fact that most of them don't need it, but they hear the often repeated "A new computer has to have 4GB", even if they just surf the web and listen to iTunes)

I heard endless complaints on the Rev. A and B, but not a peep from people I know who use C's. Outside this forum obviously.

It's supposedly a DOA-able defect because I know two people who returned new Rev. B's for exchange when they saw lines on their display and didn't have to pay a restocking fee.

Macintox
Aug 2, 2009, 12:37 PM
As far as I am concerned I'd say.... this rev C is all we will see in the MBair as we know it. Next one will be heavily redesigned to accomodate more standard parts.
Better screen resolution & even more screen space (14" high res), more RAM, more ports , more hard drive space, more battery .
But do not expect this too soon, Apple has many others & more important things to do.

Gruber
Aug 3, 2009, 05:13 AM
You do realize that the 13" MBP is 4.5 lbs, not 6, right? Even the 15" MBP is less than 6 pounds.

You are totally right. (Still too heavy for me!)

Scottsdale
Aug 3, 2009, 05:52 AM
You are totally right. (Still too heavy for me!)

The MBA feels like carrying a few magazines, while the MBPs feel like carrying a BRICK. I definitely know it's only 50% more for the 13" MBP, but it feels way heavier in reality.

I agree with you, it doesn't matter how technical people want to be, in reality it's a HUGE difference. Carrying the MBA is a dream! The MBA is amazingly lightweight and extremely fun!

They can have their technically superior MBPs, I will stick with an extremely capable MBA which is far more fun... even if it technically doesn't match the "power" of the MBP. Most of us truly don't need or use the differences capable in the MBPs anyways.

JasG
Aug 3, 2009, 07:35 AM
Rev. C, one week old, no lines, no nothing but a magnificent 3 pound computer.

It is impossible to persuade another of the difference between 3 pounds and 4.5. Either you feel it or you don't. With my MacBook unibody I always thought had about taking it or leaving it behind for my many many miles of walking and biking and commuting around a big city. With the Air, I just take it.

Sure I'd like to have 4mb, even though I absolutely don't need. Sure I'd like to have the glass trackpad, which is a dream. But nothing is worth the weight for me. Others will want the extras and live with the weight to have them.

I use an optical drive about twice a year.

bbotte
Aug 3, 2009, 07:51 AM
Mine has been perfect, and will get even better in Sept with SL. :D I am the person the thing was built for. Surfing, e-mail, iTunes. Hell I have a VMware XP machine on there that I use to jump on windows for 5 mins when I need it and it still has plenty of Memory for that, as really all I need is IE for work. Best PC I have ever owned.

kntgsp
Aug 3, 2009, 08:20 AM
Rev. C, one week old, no lines, no nothing but a magnificent 3 pound computer.

It is impossible to persuade another of the difference between 3 pounds and 4.5. Either you feel it or you don't. With my MacBook unibody I always thought had about taking it or leaving it behind for my many many miles of walking and biking and commuting around a big city. With the Air, I just take it.

Sure I'd like to have 4mb, even though I absolutely don't need. Sure I'd like to have the glass trackpad, which is a dream. But nothing is worth the weight for me. Others will want the extras and live with the weight to have them.

I use an optical drive about twice a year.

Ditto. Even when I had a 15" MBP, I rarely, if ever, used the optical drive. Games I have on Steam, and most anything else I have backed up on an external or on the network.

The thing that surprised me though....is how much I prefer the Air's trackpad with the button compared to the trackpad on the MBP's. I really like the new trackpad on the MBP because I was switching up from the old ones that didn't have all the gestures. But after having a trackpad with the 4 finger gestures AND a button....I gotta say I prefer the button.