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mattthemutt
Jun 15, 2004, 07:36 AM
As my signature says, I am saving for an iBook, but I'm incredibly poor. Do you think (I know this is stupid) that I could set up a Paypal account to accept donations from people who are really nice? ( You can tell I'm desperate)



reaper
Jun 15, 2004, 07:49 AM
I think it's already been done... I believe it was a girl saving for a powerbook. Anyways, you can always try, but I don't know how lucky you'll be - especially when everyone here is always trying to save up for a Mac of their own. :D

- reaper

KingSleaze
Jun 15, 2004, 09:30 AM
Don't believe that there are any 17" iBooks. Good luck to you otherwise. :) Oh, my bad, that's an iMac that you already have that's the 17". :o

mkrishnan
Jun 15, 2004, 09:33 AM
As my signature says, I am saving for an iBook, but I'm incredibly poor. Do you think (I know this is stupid) that I could set up a Paypal account to accept donations from people who are really nice? ( You can tell I'm desperate)

Having such a nice set of computers you already own in your sig is probably not the best advertisement of your poverty though. :(

If you really want an iBook have you considered selling one/more of them? I'm sure you could do installment paying on the rest of the cost left over and it wouldn't be so bad.

michaelrjohnson
Jun 15, 2004, 09:56 AM
I'm selling an iBook.

crap freakboy
Jun 15, 2004, 11:09 AM
1Ghz iMac G4, 256 DDR, 80GB HD, Superdrive, 17" OS X 10.2.8
3G iPod 20GB
400Mhz iMac G3 Graphite DV SE, OS 9.2
Thinkpad T21 700Mhz, Windows XP
Dell Dimension 4600, 2.8 Ghz, 80GB, 512 DDR GeforceFX5200, Windows XP

Sure, I'll chip in a bit...oh wait a mo....just remembered I've only got a G4 400Mhz Sawtooth/10Gb HD/16mb ATI, so on second thoughts that'll be a NO.

I'm guessing this is a light-hearted attempt at a joke thread, please say you weren't being serious?

LeeTom
Jun 15, 2004, 11:45 AM
The time you waste in setting up a Paypal donations page would be much better spent on working to earn it for yourself. They're not that expensive. Plus you sound like you could use the discipline.

Lee Tom

Thirteenva
Jun 15, 2004, 11:46 AM
why not sell one (or two) of your four current computers?

netytan
Jun 15, 2004, 12:39 PM
Sure you could get enough for the Dell and the thinkpad to get a 12" IBook. If not you might have to sell the G3 too. The avantage of this being you can get away from that icky Windows OS for no extra cost, and also save on the electric bill, Yay ;).

My vote, get a job and work for it or sell some hardware. Not be a heard ass but as was mentioned, we're all skimping and saving to get a Mac :).

Good luck,

Mark.

mattthemutt
Jun 15, 2004, 12:39 PM
Of course we can all use the discipline, but a key note here, I'm 14. I have a newspaper delievery job which pays ok and it will take me over a year to save up for an iBook. :(

mattthemutt
Jun 15, 2004, 12:42 PM
Oh and I forgot, none of those computers are mine. I can only use one of them (the PeeCee). The iMacs are reserved for my dad's recording and stuff. I want my own Mac.

nyprospect
Jun 15, 2004, 12:42 PM
speaking of poor Hello people how are you.Hang in there kiddo.Sell your other machines.

mattthemutt
Jun 15, 2004, 12:50 PM
how would I do that anyway? I've got a Paypal account with a debit card. How do I setup a link or something that can allow people to donate money to me?

mattthemutt
Jun 15, 2004, 12:53 PM
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PlaceofDis
Jun 15, 2004, 01:12 PM
what is that?

netytan
Jun 15, 2004, 01:20 PM
It's a HTML form copied from Paypal, why on the other hand is a different kettle of fish entirly :rolleyes:.

I understand where your coming from; being 14 and not being able to get the money for something you really want, especially if your willing to work for it! Is a total bummer!

Mark.

7on
Jun 15, 2004, 01:30 PM
lol, it took me a month to get a job, and that's at McDonald's of all places. You'll just have to wait a year for that iBook then. Do you even need an iBook? I mean you're just 14 and you won't be needing a computer traveling (I'm assuming here). You could always get an $800 eMac, or even a cheaper used Mac.

Elmy
Jun 15, 2004, 01:35 PM
Not trying to sound like a dick here but...

There are hundreds of needy charities doing vital work in places like Africa struck by civil war and famine. Would you rather I gave my 5 bucks to them or you?

You DO NOT need an iBook. You DO NOT even need a computer. You are not a charity case. Get a job.

Thirteenva
Jun 15, 2004, 01:59 PM
Why would you stuff 4 computers in your sig, especially when you can only use one of them?

Did i miss something or did d*ck size somehow become connected to the number of computers you stick in your sig...

Back on topic, it sucks to not be able to afford things you want. My fiancee and I are just starting out and really want to buy a house.... Well, that may not happen right now. If I put up a donations link would you give ME money? No, but why? surely needing a home is a far greater need than an Ibook, right? Do you see how silly this sounds? Now, Either find a way to earn money, sell your machine or just be patient like everyone else that can't afford what they want.

superbovine
Jun 15, 2004, 03:18 PM
As my signature says, I am saving for an iBook, but I'm incredibly poor. Do you think (I know this is stupid) that I could set up a Paypal account to accept donations from people who are really nice? ( You can tell I'm desperate)

this is known as pan handling or begging. 'incredibly poor' means, your money should be going to things like bettering yourself to get out of yor plight of poverty and not hoping for a ibook.

Chip NoVaMac
Jun 15, 2004, 03:45 PM
why not sell one (or two) of your four current computers?

A shame that he changed his signature so we all could have a good laugh.

Chip NoVaMac
Jun 15, 2004, 03:59 PM
Not sure about labor laws in Canada, but you could get a summer job maybe. If laws don;t allow for that you could search for things to do in the neighborhood. There are two girls in my neighborhood that arte doing the following to get some extra money:

- washing cars, pay what you want*

- mowing our townhouse lawns for pay what you want*

- drop your dog at the dog park, and they'll watch the dog for you for a few hours ($10 to $20 for 3 to 6 hours)

- collecting your mail while on vacation ($5 for the week)

- putting out and collecting trash cans on collection day ($5 to $10 depending on location of the trash can)

- they are looking into being a drop off for UPS and Fedex deliveries during the summer months. They are looking at $1 to $2 per a package.

* so far they have not been ripped off by those looking to be cheap

Instead of "begging" look for ways that you can earn some money in your community.

Chip NoVaMac
Jun 15, 2004, 04:00 PM
Why would you stuff 4 computers in your sig, especially when you can only use one of them?

Did i miss something or did d*ck size somehow become connected to the number of computers you stick in your sig...

Back on topic, it sucks to not be able to afford things you want. My fiancee and I are just starting out and really want to buy a house.... Well, that may not happen right now. If I put up a donations link would you give ME money? No, but why? surely needing a home is a far greater need than an Ibook, right? Do you see how silly this sounds? Now, Either find a way to earn money, sell your machine or just be patient like everyone else that can't afford what they want.

You might stand a better chance with me than the kid that wants an iBook.

mkrishnan
Jun 15, 2004, 04:10 PM
Did i miss something or did d*ck size somehow become connected to the number of computers you stick in your sig...

Ummm...inversely proportional? :D

It is too bad he changed his sig. This was getting to be fun.

Poor guy...guess its tough being 14. But I still continue to second the generally icy reception to this idea. :(

parrothead
Jun 15, 2004, 04:30 PM
Of course we can all use the discipline, but a key note here, I'm 14. I have a newspaper delievery job which pays ok and it will take me over a year to save up for an iBook. :(

Man I am sick of people like you crying about how poor you are and asking for handouts. You are no better than the people on the street asking for money. Actually you are worse. You obviously are living in a nice place, even if those computers don't belong to you personally, no family that can afford 4 computers is poor. You are only 14 you say? What could you POSSIBLY need your own computer for? Some adults have regular jobs that they slave away at and can't afford to save any money at all for a computer. I suggest that you stop degrading yourself, get some pride, some discipline, and some backbone and save the money yourself.

Chip NoVaMac
Jun 15, 2004, 05:54 PM
Man I am sick of people like you crying about how poor you are and asking for handouts. You are no better than the people on the street asking for money. Actually you are worse. You obviously are living in a nice place, even if those computers don't belong to you personally, no family that can afford 4 computers is poor. You are only 14 you say? What could you POSSIBLY need your own computer for? Some adults have regular jobs that they slave away at and can't afford to save any money at all for a computer. I suggest that you stop degrading yourself, get some pride, some discipline, and some backbone and save the money yourself.

Amen!

Though it is possible that he has been "set up" by society. His parents might own a mini-van and an SUV. Living in a house that makes them "house-poor". Having cable or satellite TV that provides 100's of channel choices.

His parents probably work hard to provide multiple phones in the house. To provide him the chances to participate in any sport or other activity he chooses.

I wish I could send this thread to them so they can see just how low their son has sunk. What is next, him selling his body to those willing to pay?

slughead
Jun 15, 2004, 06:17 PM
As my signature says, I am saving for an iBook, but I'm incredibly poor. Do you think (I know this is stupid) that I could set up a Paypal account to accept donations from people who are really nice? ( You can tell I'm desperate)

Perhaps you might benefit from some experience as a prostitute.
















And by that I mean a software engineer... What did you think I was saying??

Chip NoVaMac
Jun 15, 2004, 06:22 PM
Perhaps you might benefit from some experience as a prostitute.

And by that I mean a software engineer... What did you think I was saying??

And that will get you at least twenty in most areas.. :D

Thirteenva
Jun 15, 2004, 06:32 PM
You might stand a better chance with me than the kid that wants an iBook.

I was making a point... not considering actually doing what he is. Hence the phrase "See how silly this sounds?" in my post.

The point being that we are obviously not "poor" but we can't afford what we want. Yet it does not give us the right to ask others for handouts.

This kid needs some perspective if he thinks an ibook is worth begging for. Some people need clothes, food and shelter...

LeeTom
Jun 15, 2004, 06:59 PM
Of course we can all use the discipline, but a key note here, I'm 14. I have a newspaper delievery job which pays ok and it will take me over a year to save up for an iBook. :(

mattthemutt: I guess everyone is saying it in a way that may not be direct enough for you.
DO NOT SET UP A PAYPAL DONATION PAGE SO YOU CAN GET AN IBOOK. Seriously, that's so lame. It really makes you look like a chump. I know, you want it, want it, want it. But we can't get everything we want. If you set up a Paypal donation page, it will not work. OK? Sorry, thems the breaks.

Lee Tom

Chip NoVaMac
Jun 15, 2004, 07:00 PM
I was making a point... not considering actually doing what he is. Hence the phrase "See how silly this sounds?" in my post.

The point being that we are obviously not "poor" but we can't afford what we want. Yet it does not give us the right to ask others for handouts.

This kid needs some perspective if he thinks an ibook is worth begging for. Some people need clothes, food and shelter...

I am sorry, I was being sarcastic. As a homeowner, i understand the pride....

Maybe that is what is missing with this "kid'....

ionas
Jun 15, 2004, 07:05 PM
if you are a student or pupil or anything like that

click here to see the prices
http://developer.apple.com/membership/usa.html

click on HARDWARE PURCHASE PROGRAM STORE (U.S.)

u ll get those prices + 99$ for a adc student membership gift certificate you have to buy.

have fun.

mattthemutt
Jun 15, 2004, 09:18 PM
Jeez! I just ask a simple question and everyone starts making me all guilty and everything! Is it not fair to just simply ask a question? You were probably all the same at some point! :mad:

mattthemutt
Jun 15, 2004, 09:20 PM
So do you people enjoy preying on children?

mattthemutt
Jun 15, 2004, 09:24 PM
I don't want it to look as though I don't understand the morals in your answers, but please, I doubt that I was actually going to make a donations account. Seriously, folks.

mkrishnan
Jun 16, 2004, 05:45 AM
I don't want it to look as though I don't understand the morals in your answers, but please, I doubt that I was actually going to make a donations account. Seriously, folks.

Ummm....then *why* did you ask? :o

liketom
Jun 16, 2004, 06:22 AM
if you'd give your right arm to have a iBook then why dont you GIVE your right arm to science must be some one out there who needs one !

other then that ask Mom & Dad or get a job

Thirteenva
Jun 16, 2004, 09:20 AM
I don't want it to look as though I don't understand the morals in your answers, but please, I doubt that I was actually going to make a donations account. Seriously, folks.


Then why did you paste an html form from paypal into one of your posts? And then post this?

how would I do that anyway? I've got a Paypal account with a debit card. How do I setup a link or something that can allow people to donate money to me?

Sounds to me like you would have gone ahead with it, but that's not the point.

No one here is "preying on children". I think we're just taken aback by the priorities of todays youth. When i was 14 i was out playing sports and enjoying myself, not ready to panhandle for a computer. If I did need money, say for a new baseball or street hockey stick I would do chores and my parents would provide. (of course a $15 hockey stick is much different than a $1200 computer). So maybe at some point we were in similar situations but our immediate inclination was to "earn" the money. Not to ask people with their own needs and desires to hand money over to a someone who wants a mac instead of his PC.

Also keep in mind that you're probably the 3rd or 4th person to post something like this. I think it wears us a little thin hearing people gripe about needing donations to get a new mac when we are in fact all in the same boat, but some of us have more pride than to ask for donations for something so trivial in the big scheme of things.

netytan
Jun 16, 2004, 10:02 AM
Ummm....then *why* did you ask? :o

Why does anyone ask a question :), curiosity, a trate that isnt often seen in a lot of adults :P.

I have to say I think you guys went a little over the top there with the whole guilt trip. Its an inocent Q, even if it isnt the most thought out in the world, but then what 14 year old thinks before they speek, rather, what 'grown-up' thinks much before they speek ;).

Dude, just wait for your birthday or xmas and beg your rents, works for my sister all the time. why not try getting some IBook posters and such and pin em up in your room just to give them a hint :cool:. But, untill then you can always start saving some money for this and that :).

End the maddness already lol,

Mark.

klaus
Jun 16, 2004, 10:15 AM
I guess it's pretty common to be a 'poor' 14 year old kid.

When I was 14, I also couldn't buy my own iBook yet, I bet no kid can, except the kids with very rich parents.

Work for it, it'll give you much more pleasure in the end...

matt459
Jun 16, 2004, 10:49 AM
klaus, i coudnt agree with you more. I'm 15 and for the past 3 years i'd wanted an ibook. The entire time people had argued with me "whats the point, you a kid, relax, earn it"... all of those. and thats exactly what i did. I realized i did not need an ibook. I wanted it. So for 3 years i mowed endless lawns in the suimmer, shoveled snow in the winter, and did random house jobs. Finally the day came when i had 1000 dollars. My mom had relized how hard i had worked and pitched in for the rest. And to tell you the truth im so glad i did'nt get it when i first wanted it. I wouldnt have appreciated its value, and now i do. I know I am only 15, but i know what its like to work, and to save up for something that you really want. Do what i did, save up and you'll be so happy when you have your ibook ;)

LeeTom
Jun 16, 2004, 11:41 AM
Jeez! I just ask a simple question and everyone starts making me all guilty and everything! Is it not fair to just simply ask a question? You were probably all the same at some point! :mad:

matt,
It is absolutely fair to simply ask a question, and no one has denied that to you... But in turn, you have to be prepared for an answer you don't like!

Lee Tom

MacDawg
Jun 16, 2004, 11:47 AM
I read this thread when it was first posted with no responses... and I saw the train wreck coming then, and just now peeked back in. I started typing a response in the beginning, and never could quite bring myself to say all of the things said above... it was too easy :)

Now there is a lot of backing down (editing the sig, "not serious", etc.)

Young or old, all of us would like to have a new ___________ (fill in the blank: powerbook, iPod, G5, G5 Powerbook :D ) We all have to make choices around those decisions.

jknight8907
Jun 16, 2004, 02:29 PM
Hey man I know what you mean, I'm in the same bucket-o-bolts. Have you checked out the refurbished ones? They're usually about $200 off. Go to the store page and at the bottom left side there will be a link called Special Deals. Go and save there.

mattthemutt
Jun 16, 2004, 03:07 PM
netytan, I think that was the best answer in this post. Thank you all for your answers. THe problem about refurbs is that I live in Canada, where Apple doesn't have a refurbished page. :( Thanks again everyone.