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James McAulay
Aug 4, 2009, 03:54 AM
I'm considering selling my iPod Classic, complete with over 2000 songs, at least 10 full-length movies and over 30 TV episodes on eBay for a 3G Touch when it comes out. Should I sell now before new iPods are released and go without an iPod for a couple of months, or wait until September to sell? When am I more likely to make the most money?



RobMoss
Aug 4, 2009, 04:50 AM
Do it now. Most people will be waiting until they've got their new one.

You will of course be doing a complete restore, to wipe all those songs and tv shows, though, won't you..? :rolleyes:

James McAulay
Aug 4, 2009, 05:01 AM
Well I thought if I sold it with the content it would increase the price. 2000 songs, at 79p each, amount to 1580, so I would think it might add an extra 20 or so onto the price. Had a ScratchWrap on it since I got it, so it's still in mint condition. I'll probably list it tonight.

Ntombi
Aug 4, 2009, 05:16 AM
Whoooosh!


RobMoss' point was that selling it with the media included is piracy. ;)

James McAulay
Aug 4, 2009, 05:22 AM
How is it considered piracy? Surely selling an iPod with songs on it is the equivalent to selling a CD Player with CD's included?

OllyW
Aug 4, 2009, 05:30 AM
How is it considered piracy? Surely selling an iPod with songs on it is the equivalent to selling a CD Player with CD's included?

Selling second hand CDs is legal, it gets more complicated with digital music.

How did you buy the music on your iPod?

Are you including the original copy of the music with your iPod?

You can't legally sell a copy of the music if you are going to keep the original.

James McAulay
Aug 4, 2009, 05:34 AM
I'd say roughly two thirds of the music was bought on iTunes or ripped from CD's, the rest was given me to me by friends. And most of the movies and TV shows were ripped from DVD's. Am I likely to get prosecuted for selling it with content on eBay?

instaxgirl
Aug 4, 2009, 05:38 AM
Well I thought if I sold it with the content it would increase the price. 2000 songs, at 79p each, amount to 1580, so I would think it might add an extra 20 or so onto the price.

If any of those songs are from the iTunes store and aren't iTunes plus then they will have DRM and not be playable on the buyer's computer.

I think all movies and TV shows from the iTunes store are still DRM'd so they'd be useless to the buyer too.

Really I'd take them off. Not only is it a legal minefield but if you get someone who's not too savvy then they could get annoyed when they realise it's not as straightforward as plugging the iPod in and having all the media transferred. Even if the music and videos aren't DRM'd then it's STILL a pain to get them off the iPod.

EDIT:

I'd say roughly two thirds of the music was bought on iTunes or ripped from CD's, the rest was given me to me by friends. And most of the movies and TV shows were ripped from DVD's. Am I likely to get prosecuted for selling it with content on eBay?

Are you sending the CDs/DVDs with the iPod? If not then it's illegal are you're keeping the original copy. Getting "given" music is illegal too, for the same reason.

I don't know if you'd get prosecuted, but eBay might remove your listing. More than anything though I'd be thinking about the buyer, who might not know how to get that media off the iPod (iTunes won't do it)

OllyW
Aug 4, 2009, 05:47 AM
I'd say roughly two thirds of the music was bought on iTunes or ripped from CD's, the rest was given me to me by friends. And most of the movies and TV shows were ripped from DVD's. Am I likely to get prosecuted for selling it with content on eBay?

If the iTunes music has DRM it won't be playable once the buyer has transferred the music to their computer. If is the newer DRM free music, it will have your name embedded on the file. If you sell this music (and I'm not even sure iTunes downloads are transferable) you should delete the originals from your computer. And if the person who buys the iPod decides to share that music on the web, it's your name and iTunes account details that are linked to those files.

For the music you have ripped from CDs, you will have to include the original CD for each track. The same applies to the DVD rips.

The music you have got off your friends is already pirated, so you shouldn't try to sell it.

Are you likely to be prosecuted? Probably not, though you stand a good chance of your eBay listing being pulled.

Don't take the chance, just wipe the iPod.

James McAulay
Aug 4, 2009, 05:49 AM
Thanks guys, I'll probably just wipe it. I didn't realise there were so many complexities when it came to this sort of thing.

dubhe
Aug 4, 2009, 05:52 AM
An iPod can only play copies of music you own. So you would have to sell all of your CDs and allow the new buyer to be an authorised user of your iTunes library.

enderello
Aug 4, 2009, 07:39 PM
I find it annoying when I see a listing for a computer or an iPod and the seller lists a ridiculous high price for the item simply because it is loaded with software or music.

muldul
Aug 6, 2009, 03:59 AM
A couple of months, you mean like one :)
I would sell it now before the refresh, because it means your iPod will have more value

James McAulay
Aug 6, 2009, 10:41 AM
My family are driving down to Norwich (England) from Glasgow (Scotland), which is at least 7 hours, so I'll keep it for that, but I've drafted a listing for it on eBay. Should start at 99p next Saturday if anybody's interested. :) PM me for a link.