iTunes Europe Music Event Quicktime [Archive]

MacRumors

Jun 17, 2004, 09:38 AM

Apple has posted a Quicktime (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/musicevent04/) of the iTunes Music Event held on June 15, 2004.

The biggest story in music is about to get even bigger.

Tune-in to see Apple CEO, Steve Jobs, launch the Apple iTunes Music Store in UK, France, and Germany from the Old Billingsgate Market in London, UK.

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Jun 17, 2004, 09:41 AM

Not exactly the usual Steve-Jobs-worshipping audience. :D

michaelal

Jun 17, 2004, 09:45 AM

Not exactly the usual Steve-Jobs-worshipping audience. :D

We're all sick to death of ITunes. :cool:

danbalsh

Jun 17, 2004, 09:45 AM

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Jun 17, 2004, 09:46 AM

Still he manages to fill one hour talking about it..

asif786

Jun 17, 2004, 09:49 AM

Best part of that keynote was the video played before Steve came online :cool:

anyone know the music used? :confused:

Oh and I agree, the audience were so boring :mad: even when Alicia Keys tried to get them hyped, they still sat there! :mad:

The name of the song is 'Walkie Talkie Man' by Sterogram. It's not available in the UK store, but is in the US Store.

danbalsh

Jun 17, 2004, 09:50 AM

The name of the song is 'Walkie Talkie Man' by Sterogram. It's not available in the UK store, but is in the US Store.

Thanks man, talk about irony hey lol...

Darwin

Jun 17, 2004, 09:55 AM

Great, I love a good Keynote :)

invaLPsion

Jun 17, 2004, 09:56 AM

Not exactly the usual Steve-Jobs-worshipping audience. :D

Wow, that was a tough audience...

They only clapped once... :D

dizastor

Jun 17, 2004, 10:00 AM

i think I may need therapy... I'm addicted to watching streams of apple events.
My girlfriend says "Are you geeking out again?"
Sadly, yes.

asif786

Jun 17, 2004, 10:01 AM

The name of the song is 'Walkie Talkie Man' by Sterogram. It's not available in the UK store, but is in the US Store.

I know I'm quoting myself here, but hey. I'm sooo tempted to download this song via P2P cos its soo cool. It's so frustrating that iTunes doesnt have it.

grr!

Freg3000

Jun 17, 2004, 10:02 AM

Wow, that was a tough audience...

They only clapped once... :D

Yeah, and when Alicia Keys came, I thought the entire crowd was comatose.....what was going on? :confused:

JT3MacManiac

Jun 17, 2004, 10:11 AM

Best part of that keynote was the video played before Steve came online :cool:

anyone know the music used? :confused:

Oh and I agree, the audience were so boring :mad: even when Alicia Keys tried to get them hyped, they still sat there! :mad:

your wish is my command... http://movies.differentdistrict.com/play.php?id=1305_0_28_0_M44

macridah

Jun 17, 2004, 10:23 AM

What's up with that audience? I know there were moments in that presentation where the audience should of clapped, laughed or something.

I did learn something for it. I started viewing all the music videos. Wonder why i never noticed that before. That's a good way to hear the whole song for free. It did get me though, I bought a single that I probably wouldn't of.

redAPPLE

Jun 17, 2004, 10:35 AM

i think it is just the climate in london that makes the people there so "gloomy".

i was in london once, friendly and nice all together, but not as friendly as people in socal or so.

Deggy

Jun 17, 2004, 10:40 AM

asif786

Jun 17, 2004, 10:42 AM

i think it is just the climate in london that makes the people there so "gloomy".

i was in london once, friendly and nice all together, but not as friendly as people in socal or so.

It was like 30 degrees c on that day - maybe everybody was hot any bothered? we're not really used to hot weather like that in london you see.

danbalsh

Jun 17, 2004, 10:43 AM

I don't think it was Steves best performance either. I usually watch him giving a Keynote with great admiration as he is a superb speaker normally, but this time his heart didn't seem in it the same.

Maybe it was just too hard to fill an hour on one aspect.

Hope he gets it better for WWDC.

He could also have Jet-lag :( I don't think the unpleasant crowds helped really, imagine yourself standing there showing off your best software and no one is that interested, would be a bit of a downer to anyone.

J-Squire

Jun 17, 2004, 10:47 AM

I think i can say that I am in agreeance with general mood of the forum in that:
1. The audience seemed completely unenthused
2. Steve, although never a bad speaker, did seem a little off. But I would put this down partly to the tough crowd
3. It was good to kill an hour watching the webcast
4. The intro video was perhaps the coolest thing i've seen in a while

Darwin

Jun 17, 2004, 10:48 AM

I'm sure there will be plenty of clapping, laughing and cheering at the WWDC :)

The audience did kinda cheer up afterwards but that was at the end :D

g4cubed

Jun 17, 2004, 10:50 AM

Damn, was the audience from Microsoft. :confused: These people were brutal. I know Steve can be long winded and boring :rolleyes: but...

amols

Jun 17, 2004, 11:02 AM

I think the rumor sites must have ruined the excitement of such music event ;) . Even Steve needs a few strong surprise elements in his arsenal. It was looking like just a formality. Nonetheless, its always fun listening to his keynotes.

autrefois

Jun 17, 2004, 11:05 AM

It wasn't Steve's best performance. He forgot what he was going to do at one point for about 15-20 seconds.

Later, he went to Bob Marley and seemed surprised at how little Marley they had. Not good. With some other artist, I forget who, he even said "the one album we have so far." He should have picked ones that had more material obviously.

I haven't finished watching yet, but it certainly didn't help that the audience was subdued. It can affect a speaker when the audience doesn't react. Steve wasn't THAT bad—he has worked in two "boom"s so far. :)

I'm glad Apple is streaming the event, and thanks macrumors for posting the link!

TednDi

Jun 17, 2004, 11:09 AM

several things crossed my mind during the video.

first- it was the european press not the usual tech crowd

second- the street in the ITMS video is several blocks from my apt. In NYC not London, Paris or Berlin. They could have shot for the European market with Tower Bridge, Eiffel Tower and/or Brandenburg gate in the backround.

I think that perhaps the european press is hostile to anything american at this point.

I think the only thing that got that crowd interested was the 20 euro gift certificate to the store. Even then it was only golf clapping.

:confused:

mmmbop

Jun 17, 2004, 11:09 AM

Damn, was the audience from Microsoft. :confused: These people were brutal.

Note to Apple UK for their next press event. Plant a load of mac zealots throughout the audience to get the whooping and clapping factor up. :p

the_mole1314

Jun 17, 2004, 11:10 AM

They should make that video before Steve came up a commerical with all that info about songs and all that stuff.

asif786

Jun 17, 2004, 11:15 AM

Note to Apple UK for their next press event. Plant a load of mac zealots throughout the audience to get the whooping and clapping factor up. :p

Lol! I sent someone in to try and 'blag' (is that the word for it?) me entry into the event, and they were having none of it..

i hope steve comes to the london opening store opening though. i'm sure the press will be loving that.

Wash!!

Jun 17, 2004, 11:19 AM

It was typical a British stiff crow, what did you think :rolleyes:

redAPPLE

Jun 17, 2004, 11:33 AM

Note to Apple UK for their next press event. Plant a load of mac zealots throughout the audience to get the whooping and clapping factor up. :p

or... better yet, give away iPod minis to anyone who claps
:D

damn them english for not clapping j/k. i guess dubya is the reason why they were not enthusiastic.

Deggy

Jun 17, 2004, 11:33 AM

They should make that video before Steve came up a commerical with all that info about songs and all that stuff.

I was thinking the same while i was watching it. Play it in the inteval of the Cup Final when England are playing whoever :)

rendezvouscp

Jun 17, 2004, 11:37 AM

Boy that audience was cold. It was kinda depressing to watch.

"Introducing the iTunes Music Store into the UK, Germany, and France."

Dead silence.

What's up with that? That's "whack." ;)
–Chase

autrefois

Jun 17, 2004, 11:37 AM

or... better yet, give away iPod minis to anyone who claps
:D

damn them english for not clapping j/k. i guess dubya is the reason why they were not enthusiastic.

Well if it was just the press, as someone mentioned earlier, that might explain it. They were probably busy trying to get things down for their stories, instead of applauding and doing a sing-along with Alicia Keys. :)

They definitely should have had some Mac fans in there in addition to the press.

rendezvouscp

Jun 17, 2004, 11:45 AM

What kind of remote is Jobs using?
http://homepage.mac.com/rendezvouscp/Images/remote.jpg

–Chase

virividox

Jun 17, 2004, 11:55 AM

i guess steves reality distortion field isnt workking

rikers_mailbox

Jun 17, 2004, 11:56 AM

What kind of remote is Jobs using?
http://homepage.mac.com/rendezvouscp/Images/remote.jpg

–Chase

It looks like a garage door opener.

Darwin

Jun 17, 2004, 11:58 AM

What kind of remote is Jobs using?
http://homepage.mac.com/rendezvouscp/Images/remote.jpg

–Chase

Same one he always uses :D

danbalsh

Jun 17, 2004, 12:07 PM

What kind of remote is Jobs using?
http://homepage.mac.com/rendezvouscp/Images/remote.jpg

–Chase

Thats Steve's 4th Gen iPod, with built in KeynoteRemote, it also runs the entire iTunes Music Store :D :cool:

g4cubed

Jun 17, 2004, 12:08 PM

It was typical a British stiff crow, what did you think :rolleyes:

Did you mean crowd or were you refering the the bird :confused:

autrefois

Jun 17, 2004, 12:24 PM

Did you mean crowd or were you refering the the bird :confused:

If you listen very closely to the sound of the Quicktime stream, you can definitely hear "caw! caw!" :D

Windowlicker

Jun 17, 2004, 12:53 PM

i think I may need therapy... I'm addicted to watching streams of apple events.
My girlfriend says "Are you geeking out again?"
Sadly, yes.

haha! got the same problem, except I tell my g/f i'm gonna be geeking out for a while before i start watching the keynotes ;D

asif786

Jun 17, 2004, 12:56 PM

haha! got the same problem, except I tell my g/f i'm gonna be geeking out for a while before i start watching the keynotes ;D

heh, same problem here too. it's like im obsessed.

btw, is it considered sad if you smile when an ipod ad comes on tv? i think its really cool that we mac users have some cool ads to brag about :D

BornAgainMac

Jun 17, 2004, 01:02 PM

Not exactly the usual Steve-Jobs-worshipping audience. :D

Yea, it was really strange listening to them. Very quiet. Almost no pulse.

silvergunuk

Jun 17, 2004, 01:03 PM

I'm more surprised the crowd didnt kill Alicia Keys. 3 songs of hers is enough to drive anyone loopy.

BornAgainMac

Jun 17, 2004, 01:05 PM

Boy that audience was cold. It was kinda depressing to watch.

"Introducing the iTunes Music Store into the UK, Germany, and France."

Dead silence.

What's up with that? That's "whack." ;)
–Chase

I expected someone to yell out "IT'S ABOUT BLOODY TIME!!!"

redAPPLE

Jun 17, 2004, 01:09 PM

i ain't no journalist, but isn't it a fact, that they digitally "jot down" their notes now? i mean, with a dat recorder (or a tape recorder, which is analog :p) or an iPod with a voice recorder?

i guess we know now which guys are not getting invited to the opening of the "Pan European iTMS" in october, don't we? :D

BornAgainMac

Jun 17, 2004, 01:10 PM

I don't think it was Steves best performance either. I usually watch him giving a Keynote with great admiration as he is a superb speaker normally, but this time his heart didn't seem in it the same.

Maybe it was just too hard to fill an hour on one aspect.

Hope he gets it better for WWDC.

Steve could have had Powerbook G5's less than 1 inch thick running at 3 Ghz with his best sales pitch and that crowd would be the same. People they didn't understand English.

rendezvouscp

Jun 17, 2004, 01:10 PM

heh, same problem here too. it's like im obsessed.

btw, is it considered sad if you smile when an ipod ad comes on tv? i think its really cool that we mac users have some cool ads to brag about :D

No, it's not sad. Or I don't think so, because I do it too. My girlfriend makes fun of me too. But they just don't understand! They may never know the pure joy of Apple products (not using them, but something like smiling when an iPod ad is on TV), but hopefully they will see the light some day.
–Chase

ryanw

Jun 17, 2004, 01:29 PM

I'm more surprised the crowd didnt kill Alicia Keys. 3 songs of hers is enough to drive anyone loopy.

Oh come on. She blew me away. I mean I had no idea she was a real musician. She can actually play piano extreamly well and sing very very well. She doesn't just play piano, she appears to be classically trained. That's more than I can say about a lot of people with hit records these days. I do have to admit, I don't like her "falling song". She probably hates it herself. Artists hate when labels push certain songs onto the public to make it a hit when in actuality it appears it is one of the worst songs on her albums. I wouldn't ever buy an album of hers based on that "falling song". But on the other two, for sure.

Vonnie

Jun 17, 2004, 01:37 PM

Eh, the audience was just not very Apple oriented. Mostly music-journalists, who interviewed the local indies before. Some quoted as saying "agreeing to Apples term would be commercial suicide". Basically they had this image of Apple as a big monopoly bullying the local indies, trying to squeeze as much money as possible out of them. "Apple, the Microsoft of the music industry".

It doesn't help if you start of your presentation with proving how much of a monopoly you are, and ending the presentation with a not very convincing "we love music, we love working with artists". That was just like Bill Gates saying "security is very important to us".

Just compare the emotional, honest "we love music"-speech of steve in the announcement of the ipod minis, to the fake-sounding one in this keynote.

Poor Steve, you'll have to work on Apple's image in Europe. Get european indies on board, get them to say how much they love itunes, how Apple has given the music industry a new life,.. It's hard to be loved if you aren't in the underdog position. But cheer up, WWDC is coming, and it will have the best public ever! :-)

Tideswimmer

Jun 17, 2004, 01:50 PM

I'm a reporter for a newspaper, and a huge Mac fan, but if I was there I wouldn't be applauding either. I'd be writing things down as fast as I could. I would also be recording the event, but you never put all your eggs in that basket!

They're not applauding because they are working. And I think Jobs was toning down his presentation for them too. Not as much showmanship as at a Mac event.

FightTheFuture

Jun 17, 2004, 02:07 PM

I'm a reporter for a newspaper, and a huge Mac fan, but if I was there I wouldn't be applauding either.

i was wondering about this - your supposed to give an unbiased view, as well as taking all your notes in verbatim. so perhaps that supports why the audience isn't buzzing. its probably the same for every microsoft press event. its also not as if the audience doesn't know the features of iTunes either.

there's that "oh-ta-matically" again. i'm going to be saying that for the rest of the day.

TWinbrook46636

Jun 17, 2004, 02:35 PM

i guess steves reality distortion field isnt workking

The European version of RDF was not ready in time for the announcement.

JGowan

Jun 17, 2004, 02:53 PM

We're all sick to death of ITunes.I think "ALL" is too broad of a term, Michael. I'm sure those in the UK, Germany and France are kinda glad to see the Music Store. If you're so sick of iTunes, why even read a thread that begins with the word "iTunes"?

Moronic.

iChan

Jun 17, 2004, 03:23 PM

Great, I love a good Keynote :)

the keynote wasn't great, it wasn't even "good"

iChan

Jun 17, 2004, 03:23 PM

Still he manages to fill one hour talking about it..

heh, yeah, he spent more time silently musing than talking though

iChan

Jun 17, 2004, 03:24 PM

Wow, that was a tough audience...

They only clapped once... :D

mostly journalists... maybe they were all writing

DidotCicero

Jun 17, 2004, 03:24 PM

too bad, I can't watch the stream, Quicktime says there's no connection...

:confused:

iChan

Jun 17, 2004, 03:26 PM

I don't think it was Steves best performance either. I usually watch him giving a Keynote with great admiration as he is a superb speaker normally, but this time his heart didn't seem in it the same.

Maybe it was just too hard to fill an hour on one aspect.

Hope he gets it better for WWDC.

maybe he is... *shock! Horror!* "bored" by this whole music thingy and wants to get back into the nitty gritty of Mac's... yeah!

iChan

Jun 17, 2004, 03:34 PM

instead of £15/€20 gift vouchers, maybe Apple should have given everyone in the audience a random coloured iPod mini to everyone in the crowd...

it would have a been a good launch point for the iPod Mini, also, it would have cheered the crowd up exponetially and would have acted as a chill pill...

it would have also helped everyone engage in more of the Apple "community spirit" when everyone would inevitably be trading their iPods Mini's for colours they are more happy with...

the free publicity would have paid for the Mini's 100's of times over.

rvernout

Jun 17, 2004, 03:50 PM

Come on guys, what did you expect? This was not a keynote at a WWDC full of Mac junkies. It was a dressed up PRESS CONFERENCE. Have you ever heard journalists cheer and applaude at a press conference? Besides that, it was a copy of the earlier keynote on iTMS USA, and little exciting was announced that was not predicted already. On the contrary it was rather disappointing that the store is currently limited to three European countries only. The only positive thing that was not predicted was the low 99 eurocents including tax for Germany and France. Some folks (I guess from those countries) cheered at that point. The British did not for the relatively high 79 p, obviously.

caveman_uk

Jun 17, 2004, 04:04 PM

If you invite only journalists then this is what you get - A crap audience that won't help you. I bet you don't get the US journo's whooping at the US Stevenotes either? If he wanted help then maybe sending out some invites to UK .mac users would have helped get a more friendly audience. Or howabout getting everyone a little drunk before the start. TV studios over here giveaway a couple of free drinks to members of the audience of comedy shows so they're in a better mood and more inclined to laugh. I know - I've been in the audience several times ;)

NOV

Jun 17, 2004, 05:02 PM

Didn't you notice Steve did his best to make a "British" keynote? He swapped the "isn't that cool?" for "isn't that amazing?". :D

From own experiences I understand this kind of keynotes is very difficult. If there is no interaction with the public you switch to auto-pilot with the only goal to tell your story within the given time. Very frustrating.

MattG

Jun 17, 2004, 05:04 PM

"Web-site music stores suck."

I love Steve :D

MattG

Jun 17, 2004, 05:08 PM

redAPPLE

Jun 17, 2004, 05:33 PM

i've never known our SJ to be long-winded and boring...

i guess the keynote was boring for some because SJ did not say anything new.

but this is imo not an excuse that the crowd were so asleep.

and during the alicia keys part, were the reporters writing then too? were tabloid reporters invited too? :rolleyes:

redAPPLE

Jun 17, 2004, 05:39 PM

Casual

Jun 17, 2004, 06:38 PM

I'm watching it now... Does the display on his desk look like a.... new model? I may just be the quality but it looks a bit more like those rumored displays than the current cinema ones.

g4cubed

Jun 17, 2004, 07:46 PM

i've never known our SJ to be long-winded and boring...

Then you've not seen many speeches my him. Beside the few major events. :confused:

rendezvouscp

Jun 18, 2004, 12:47 AM

I'm watching it now... Does the display on his desk look like a.... new model? I may just be the quality but it looks a bit more like those rumored displays than the current cinema ones.

No, regular display. I think it's a 17", but I'm not sure.
–Chase

amols

Jun 18, 2004, 01:08 AM

there is one thing that is not clear to me. maybe i did not listen good enough, so here goes.

if i am from let us say irland, i go to london and visit some friends who live there and i urge/blackmail/force them to get me a gift certificate.

then i go home to irland and use the gift certificate using the british iTMS, would this in theory work?

if so, well think about this idea, Apple helps promote tourism. "Visit Germany, France and the United Kingdom."

No, this won't work. Because even to use or redeem a gift certificate, you need an iTunes account and Apple checks that you actully live in these contry.
Off course, someone can use there friend's address, but that voilets Apple's legal agreement as they say "we can use technologies to confirm your data (and kick your ass)" :) .

MacFan26

Jun 18, 2004, 01:34 AM

there's that "oh-ta-matically" again. i'm going to be saying that for the rest of the day.

:D me too! I've never heard anyone else say it like that.
I'm glad Apple decided to stream this, it's always cool to see an Apple event, even though this was a press conference. Kudos to Alicia Keys for getting through the crowd, although, I thought two songs would have been enough. Oh well, I can't wait to find out how iTunes is doing over there!

Sabenth

Jun 18, 2004, 03:24 AM

well what a supprise NOT!!! the main thing about this keynote was its a press event. Press = intrested in informiing the public who will be reading alll about it in a mag newspaper even on the tv with the news crews. The BBC would have killed most of it for the rest of us with there 08:45am broadcast on the whole european itms deal. As stated by them the biggest secreet in ages slipped again blah blah and as stated one of the jurnos who was on the bbc said exspect the price of the uk store to be near 70p.. Its actualy 79p but what the heck still cheaper than the 1 pound they thought it might have been. The other thing thats funny is that the 2 muppets who were at the bbc going on about it started yabbing on about the iPod one of the prestenters said how easy is it to use an iPod. One jurno said well you have to make sure you have the right PC to use it. What a firewire card or USB2 and cables how hard can that be....

Keynote / Press event = Dull no free bear thats why :D

beshides apple needs to really start working with the rest of the world not just the states this is a good start but more work is needed to really start getting people going for online buying of music and not just P2P

Well thats my mouthfull over and done with

wandrews

Jun 18, 2004, 04:08 AM

I have tried several times (and on two different macs) to view the Keynote, but it doesn't work. Both macs are bang up to date.

Anyone else unable to view Apple's Keynotes?

gooddog

Jun 18, 2004, 05:03 AM

that is more likely becuase Alicia Keys charmed the pants off them...

I Have to admit, i have both Alicia Key's albums but never really appreciated her as a person, but the way she performed and held herself with such a tough audience was really admirable and she looked great!

***********************

I was crawling out of my skin and really felt for Jobs : I think he was fine.

Alicia was awesome in her talent and her poise before a rude crowd. And she was painfully gorgeous to look at --- I cried myself to sleep :(
My GAWD !!! the eyes on that Woman !!!!!!! :)

One little thing though :

There was a graphic near the end that showed the USA in the center with the other nations disposed radially about , as satellites, in digital hub fashion.

This was followed by a view of the globe centered on the USA.

Given the resentment toward Americans so prevalent in the world today, I would have suggested that the globe might START centered on the USA, then rotate to a POLAR projection with the USA on the left and Europe to the right (as most cultures in Europe scan tex). This would give due credit to the priority of the USA in Apple's iTunes MS service etc. and also express the (r)evolution into a more cosmopolitan world market.

I know this sounds silly, but people in other countries are not used to seeing their flags and continents depicted as satellites of the USA.

I will now duck and requests some of your thoughts on this.

---gooddog

James.Paul

Jun 18, 2004, 06:14 AM

I have tried several times (and on two different macs) to view the Keynote, but it doesn't work. Both macs are bang up to date.

Anyone else unable to view Apple's Keynotes?

It wont open for me either!!!! :(

amols

Jun 18, 2004, 06:19 AM

I have tried several times (and on two different macs) to view the Keynote, but it doesn't work. Both macs are bang up to date.

Anyone else unable to view Apple's Keynotes?

Are you on dial-up ?? It's playing on my 56k connection but with a lot of skipping. Other keynotes works just fine.

wandrews

Jun 18, 2004, 07:13 AM

Are you on dial-up ?? It's playing on my 56k connection but with a lot of skipping. Other keynotes works just fine.

Broadband at home and at work.

whooleytoo

Jun 18, 2004, 07:44 AM

there is one thing that is not clear to me. maybe i did not listen good enough, so here goes.

if i am from let us say irland, i go to london and visit some friends who live there and i urge/blackmail/force them to get me a gift certificate.

then i go home to irland and use the gift certificate using the british iTMS, would this in theory work?

if so, well think about this idea, Apple helps promote tourism. "Visit Germany, France and the United Kingdom."

I think your best bet would be to get your friends to buy the songs with their account, transfer them to your iPod, and take them home.

The only problem with that is, I don't think you'd be able to transfer them onto your Mac at home and play them without having a valid account to authorize the Mac.

Corozive

Jun 18, 2004, 08:10 AM

No, regular display. I think it's a 17", but I'm not sure.
–Chase

It was a 17" screen, i was watching and thought "hey i have that size screen"
i wondered why he didnt have the 23" one??

redAPPLE

Jun 18, 2004, 08:25 AM

***********************

Given the resentment toward Americans so prevalent in the world today, I would have suggested that the globe might START centered on the USA, then rotate to a POLAR projection with the USA on the left and Europe to the right (as most cultures in Europe scan tex). This would give due credit to the priority of the USA in Apple's iTunes MS service etc. and also express the (r)evolution into a more cosmopolitan world market.

I know this sounds silly, but people in other countries are not used to seeing their flags and continents depicted as satellites of the USA.

I will now duck and requests some of your thoughts on this.

---gooddog

i personally do not think there was any plan or idea by placing the us flag in the center.

as i saw that, i thought they would be placing the "pan european flag" on the lower left (is this even the picture you mean? the one where the lower left stayed empty?).

Bagel

Jun 18, 2004, 09:01 AM

Gosh that was a rather tough crowd. I am glad that the iTunes music store is (finally!) available in the UK, and have already made a purchase or two. I guess the issue is that there was nothing *new* to release - well at least no new hardware etc.

Nevertheless, I am pleased that I can now use *all* of iTunes :) Had I been there I think I would have cheered a little more. I wonder if that "ad" that was shown at the start of the keynote will be available - it was rather cool.

Have a nice day!

JGowan

Jun 18, 2004, 09:49 AM

if i am from let us say irland, i go to london and visit some friends who live there and i urge/blackmail/force them to get me a gift certificate.

then i go home to irland and use the gift certificate using the british iTMS, would this in theory work?No. Your gift certificate has to be bought and used in the same country. The guys from "yourmaclife.com" did that very experiment and found out that it will not work any other way.

JGowan

Jun 18, 2004, 09:54 AM

It was a 17" screen, i was watching and thought "hey i have that size screen" i wondered why he didnt have the 23" one??Probably so that he can focus a bit easier. His eyes don't have to wander all of some huge forest of a screen to find what they need.

ingenious

Jun 18, 2004, 10:20 AM

Damn, was the audience from Microsoft. :confused: These people were brutal. I know Steve can be long winded and boring :rolleyes: but...

Well, they did use an HP notebook to do the demonstration.... :rolleyes:

chrisblore

Jun 18, 2004, 12:25 PM

Well, they did use an HP notebook to do the demonstration....

I think this was to prove the point that Airtunes can work with both PCs and Macs because the audience were more likely to be interested in what technology Apple is developing for the PC market, given that they were only ordinary journalists and therefore not likely to be as aware of Macs as the people at the WWDC etc.

manu chao

Jun 18, 2004, 06:27 PM

It was a 17" screen, i was watching and thought "hey i have that size screen"
i wondered why he didnt have the 23" one??

I guess the resolution of the projector for the big 'screen' on the wall is limited in size, and since you would like to mirror your computer's screen to the one on the wall during a demo, there is no point in using a bigger screen.

Amani

Jun 19, 2004, 01:41 PM

Damn, was the audience from Microsoft. :confused: These people were brutal. I know Steve can be long winded and boring :rolleyes: but...

I totally agree. I was especially saddened that Alicia Keyes got such a lukewarm reception. I think should would have had a great time with them if they had just opened up to her. Perhaps they should of had a European artists to perform. Too American-centered.

Agathon

Jun 19, 2004, 05:32 PM

As someone said: it was a press conference. I don't remember screaming hordes when the ipod was first introduced.

Apple is quite low profile in the UK as it is. My computer using relatives had never even heard of Apple.

Savage Henry

Jun 19, 2004, 06:10 PM

I think the proof will be in the pudding: the number of downloads in the first 4 weeks...

I'm not expecting a big pudding here....

asif786

Jun 20, 2004, 04:38 AM

I think the proof will be in the pudding: the number of downloads in the first 4 weeks...

I'm not expecting a big pudding here....

Well, I dunno about that. I've seen iTMS UK banner ads on most of the major UK portals, bus stops and on google adwords.

also, let's not forget the bus stop adverts.

Savage Henry

Jun 20, 2004, 04:54 AM

Well, I dunno about that. I've seen iTMS UK banner ads on most of the major UK portals, bus stops and on google adwords.

also, let's not forget the bus stop adverts.

Granted, I've seen tonnes of ads, and I've had a considerably umber of people tell me they are aware of the product, but I've just not heard of many people downloading from it.

These forums are full of loyal fans, many of which feel jipped that too many artists, though named, have NIL content. I gave up searching for specifically named artists and chose to randomly browse, with little reward.

Once they get the indies up and running it should be a different matter.

guifa

Jun 20, 2004, 10:49 AM

Oh come on. She blew me away. I mean I had no idea she was a real musician. She can actually play piano extreamly well and sing very very well. She doesn't just play piano, she appears to be classically trained. That's more than I can say about a lot of people with hit records these days. I do have to admit, I don't like her "falling song". She probably hates it herself. Artists hate when labels push certain songs onto the public to make it a hit when in actuality it appears it is one of the worst songs on her albums. I wouldn't ever buy an album of hers based on that "falling song". But on the other two, for sure.
I agree completely. It stunned me because I had always thought of her as just another singer in the crowd playing singing songs she didn't even write.

But she's a very good piano player and now I'm questioning that she doesn't write her own stuff .... in any case it was enough to make me go out and buy some of her stuff, I was quite impressed.

guifa

Jun 20, 2004, 10:59 AM

No. Your gift certificate has to be bought and used in the same country. The guys from "yourmaclife.com" did that very experiment and found out that it will not work any other way.
I tried the same thing, sent a friend a $10 gift certificate over to the UK. It told him he could only use it for the US store, but he also needed a US card to use the US store, even though he had a valid UK account. My card had already been charged though so there was these $10 sitting in limbo. I e-mailed Apple about it and they refunded me the $10 thankfully.

Deggy

Jun 20, 2004, 03:12 PM

The part of the pre keynote where the guy walks past the ipod posters and they dance has just been on tv as an advert for ipod + iTunes

asif786

Jun 20, 2004, 03:14 PM

The part of the pre keynote where the guy walks past the ipod posters and they dance has just been on tv as an advert for ipod + iTunes

cool ,which channel did you see it on?

(p.s. do you mean as in just a couple of mins ago, right?)

Deggy

Jun 20, 2004, 03:19 PM

cool ,which channel did you see it on?

(p.s. do you mean as in just a couple of mins ago, right?)

Yes just a couple of minutes ago on Discovery Health, a UK Satellite Channel.

Corozive

Jun 21, 2004, 08:57 AM

Yes just a couple of minutes ago on Discovery Health, a UK Satellite Channel.

I have seen it a few uk channels now, the lanch was even on the news.
although the advert is out now apple should advertise a lot more !!

brightlights

Jun 21, 2004, 09:16 AM

as mentioned in this thread there are loads of reasons why the audience wasn't very receptive.

we have had to wait ages and ages for this music store, admittedly not necessarily apple's fault but still frustrating. napster had already launched in the uk and od2 has been around a while meaning that the announcement wasn't really that major. the release had been tainted by the lack of indies, searching though the uk music store is a joke they are missing so much stuff. nearly every imix is complaining about the lack of indies.

above all british/european crowds just don't respond the same way american crowds do. watch british tv and you don't get the loud cheering and whooping or whatever. it's just one of those things.

MacFan26

Jun 21, 2004, 03:31 PM

above all british/european crowds just don't respond the same way american crowds do. watch british tv and you don't get the loud cheering and whooping or whatever. it's just one of those things.

It'd be nice if it was like that in the US every once in a while. Someone do a commercial that isn't shouting at me!