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zimv20
Jun 19, 2004, 01:20 AM
link (http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/story/0,12469,1242638,00.html)


A senior US intelligence official is about to publish a bitter condemnation of America's counter-terrorism policy, arguing that the west is losing the war against al-Qaida and that an "avaricious, premeditated, unprovoked" war in Iraq has played into Osama bin Laden's hands.

Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror, due out next month, dismisses two of the most frequent boasts of the Bush administration: that Bin Laden and al-Qaida are "on the run" and that the Iraq invasion has made America safer.

In an interview with the Guardian the official, who writes as "Anonymous", described al-Qaida as a much more proficient and focused organisation than it was in 2001, and predicted that it would "inevitably" acquire weapons of mass destruction and try to use them.

He said Bin Laden was probably "comfortable" commanding his organisation from the mountainous tribal lands along the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan.


Anonymous said: "I think we overestimate significantly the stress [Bin Laden's] under. Our media and sometimes our policymakers suggest he's hiding from rock to rock and hill to hill and cave to cave. My own hunch is that he's fairly comfortable where he is."

The death and arrest of experienced operatives might have set back Bin Laden's plans to some degree but when it came to his long-term capacity to threaten the US, he said, "I don't think we've laid a glove on him".

"What I think we're seeing in al-Qaida is a change of generation," he said."The people who are leading al-Qaida now seem a lot more professional group.

"They are more bureaucratic, more management competent, certainly more literate. Certainly, this generation is more computer literate, more comfortable with the tools of modernity. I also think they're much less prone to being the Errol Flynns of al-Qaida. They're just much more careful across the board in the way they operate."


As for weapons of mass destruction, he thinks that if al-Qaida does not have them already, it will inevitably acquire them.

The most likely source of a nuclear device would be the former Soviet Union, he believes. Dirty bombs, chemical and biological weapons, could be home-made by al-Qaida's own experts, many of them trained in the US and Britain.

Anonymous, who published an analysis of al-Qaida last year called Through Our Enemies' Eyes, thinks it quite possible that another devastating strike against the US could come during the election campaign, not with the intention of changing the administration, as was the case in the Madrid bombing, but of keeping the same one in place.

"I'm very sure they can't have a better administration for them than the one they have now," he said.

"One way to keep the Republicans in power is to mount an attack that would rally the country around the president."


Anonymous believes Mr Bush is taking the US in exactly the direction Bin Laden wants, towards all-out confrontation with Islam under the banner of spreading democracy.

He said: "It's going to take 10,000-15,000 dead Americans before we say to ourselves: 'What is going on'?"



wwworry
Jun 19, 2004, 08:25 AM
It looks like George Bush is preparing for "The Rapture (http://www.unknownnews.net/apocalypsenow.html)" So this would make sense.

(we could have a whole new thread on "The Rapture (http://www.unknownnews.net/apocalypsenow.html)")

Sayhey
Jun 19, 2004, 09:27 AM
It looks like George Bush is preparing for "The Rapture (http://www.unknownnews.net/apocalypsenow.html)" So this would make sense.

(we could have a whole new thread on "The Rapture (http://www.unknownnews.net/apocalypsenow.html)")

Do we have a foreign policy based on the "Left Behind (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0842329129/104-3778880-5103164?v=glance)" series? :eek:

Neserk
Jun 19, 2004, 11:14 AM
It looks like George Bush is preparing for "The Rapture (http://www.unknownnews.net/apocalypsenow.html)" So this would make sense.

(we could have a whole new thread on "The Rapture (http://www.unknownnews.net/apocalypsenow.html)")

No, I"m too tired to try and explain Revelations to everyone.

jefhatfield
Jun 19, 2004, 12:40 PM
bin laden's long range plan has primarily been the same as most extreme terrorist's ideals...for a homeland for the palestinians and this has been the call to young, impressionable would be terrorists

the section of isreal the palestinians want most is east jerusalem since it's the richest concentration of islamic religious icons/art/history, etc

but with arafat, hezbollah, and bin laden becoming more and more synonymous with the palestinian cause and the rash of suicide bombers in isreal, it does not seem likely the palestinians are going to find a lot of sympathy right now...might never makes right as we learned in vietnam and as the plo and their failed attempts through force are showing these days

the plo may have had an agenda at one time for the palestinian society as a whole, but today it just seems that their business/agenda is war...and business is good

every car bomb let off by a suicide bomber only makes the hope for a palestine owned east jerusalem less and less likely

as for revealation and armageddon, jerusalem appears to be ground zero...we already know about irrational islamic fundamentalists who are willing to use force, but now some fundamantalist christians are starting to resemble their islamic counterparts and to god, it's likely neither side is right...many believers in god are believers in military force, greed, hate, etc and only use god as a cover for their secular actions and agendas