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Jayden0606
Aug 8, 2009, 02:17 AM
GPush (get your Gmail pushed with alerts) is out for the iPhone. in the store. Get it for .99 cents. http://bit.ly/CBvnR



andyhargreaves
Aug 8, 2009, 04:17 AM
Error
Your credentials were refused by
GMail, or the server experienced an
error. Please resubmit.

Anyone else tried this?

spillproof
Aug 8, 2009, 04:21 AM
Intriguing, but I want the real thing :(

sgar
Aug 8, 2009, 04:24 AM
Error
Your credentials were refused by
GMail, or the server experienced an
error. Please resubmit.

Anyone else tried this?

I had the same error, but after several attempts it did accept it, working great now. Make sure once it accepts your login, not to open the program again.

andyhargreaves
Aug 8, 2009, 04:27 AM
Did you include ...@gmail.com or just your username?

sgar
Aug 8, 2009, 04:34 AM
yes I did include the @gmail.com. Keep trying, it will eventually accept it.

ctt1wbw
Aug 8, 2009, 05:45 AM
Yeah, it took me about 10 times to get it verified. Just keep trying.

Andrew Henry
Aug 8, 2009, 06:35 AM
I've tried about 50 times, no luck.. This sucks!:mad:

andyhargreaves
Aug 8, 2009, 07:22 AM
I finally got it to accept my details, after literally hundreds of attempts. Now to see if anything pushes!

rendez2k
Aug 8, 2009, 07:29 AM
Just kept hitting submit about 10 times then it worked! I have a gmail exchange server set up on my iPhone anyway so lets see if they both push at the same time!

efp1
Aug 8, 2009, 07:38 AM
It worked after about 4 tries for me. :)

It's working great! It takes about 5 seconds to get the notification from sending it from my girlfriend's iPhone to receiving the alert on mine.

Great app! Now they need to add the ability to directly open the mail app. That's something some twitter apps can do with other apps.

rendez2k
Aug 8, 2009, 07:42 AM
Works here too - got an email about 2 seconds faster than my exchange account. As mentioned, just a shame theres no way to then open the mail app. I believe an enterprise version is coming but I'm not sure what features that will add....

ctt1wbw
Aug 8, 2009, 08:28 AM
I deleted it. What a waste of an app. Wouldn't push at all. AT ALL. Nothing. I erased it and reboot my phone and reinstalled it. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

One star rating.

efp1
Aug 8, 2009, 08:33 AM
I deleted it. What a waste of an app. Wouldn't push at all. AT ALL. Nothing. I erased it and reboot my phone and reinstalled it. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

One star rating.

Really? It's working great for me. I've tried it out numerous times already and I've gotten every single notification after only a few seconds.

Are you sure you set it up correctly? Did you make sure you got the 'Successful' alert when inputting your Gmail details? Are your notifications switched on in your settings?

brian5
Aug 8, 2009, 08:41 AM
I have 4 Gmail accounts that I need to check so am not even going to try this until GPush supports more than one account. That seems to be a short-sighted limited -- I realize that this in only release 1.1.

Compile 'em all
Aug 8, 2009, 08:47 AM
I have 4 Gmail accounts that I need to check so am not even going to try this until GPush supports more than one account. That seems to be a short-sighted limited -- I realize that this in only release 1.1.

Agreed. I have 3 gmail accounts and all of them are of equal importance.

I really am wondering if Mail will ever get native push gmail. I mean it would be good for Apple because push does save a lot of battery.

efp1
Aug 8, 2009, 08:53 AM
I have 4 Gmail accounts that I need to check so am not even going to try this until GPush supports more than one account. That seems to be a short-sighted limited -- I realize that this in only release 1.1.

I was searching for information about a possible update and I found the company's twitter account. They mention that they have a premium version in the app approval process at this point. They don't mention a price point, though.

They state that the premium version will support multiple accounts.

javaGuru
Aug 8, 2009, 09:00 AM
Is this the only app that has push notifications for gmail? Are there any alternatives? I would hate to purchase this app to only learn later that there is something better available.

ctt1wbw
Aug 8, 2009, 09:02 AM
Really? It's working great for me. I've tried it out numerous times already and I've gotten every single notification after only a few seconds.

Are you sure you set it up correctly? Did you make sure you got the 'Successful' alert when inputting your Gmail details? Are your notifications switched on in your settings?

Yes, and yes. I have about 12 push apps and they all work. This one did not.

javaGuru
Aug 8, 2009, 09:17 AM
I was able to authenticate my account on the first try by NOT including the @gmail.com at the end of my userid.

UPDATE: I actually had to go back and enter the @gmail.com to get it to work properly. It seems to randomly authenticate each user's credentials. One minute it works and the next minute it doesn't work. Also, I sent myself an email several minutes ago and have yet to get a notification.

javaGuru
Aug 8, 2009, 10:00 AM
Ok, this app is officially a bust and a waste of $.99. I have only received one notification and every time I open the app to check my settings it either says it can't authenticate me or it can't communicate with some server. I will be only giving this app 1 star.

sinsin07
Aug 8, 2009, 10:21 AM
It appears the App is now gone from App store.

xolan99
Aug 8, 2009, 10:21 AM
wtf? was this app removed from the app store? i see it but can't buy it

Scooterman1
Aug 8, 2009, 10:26 AM
It appears the App is now gone from App store.

When Apple realized it had the name 'Google' in it, do you suppose they pulled it?

Again, I see it in the Store.

Luminator
Aug 8, 2009, 10:29 AM
wtf? was this app removed from the app store? i see it but can't buy it

Probably because it doesn't work. After numerous tries I get the following error: Could not communicate with server. Error Domain=NSURLErrorDomain Code=-1004 UserInfo=xxxxxx can't connect to host. You may not receive GMail push notifications.

This was a total rip off!

Rat-Boy
Aug 8, 2009, 10:33 AM
I mean it would be good for Apple because push does save a lot of battery.
Push saves battery?

Since when?

Push NOTIFICATIONS might, but Push Email is a batter HOG on this phone.

They are two separate things often confused on this forum.

sinsin07
Aug 8, 2009, 10:36 AM
Push saves battery?

Since when?

Push NOTIFICATIONS might, but Push Email is a batter HOG on this phone.

They are two separate things often confused on this forum.

What are the differences? (no sarcasm, just wanted to know)

Scooterman1
Aug 8, 2009, 10:43 AM
I have 4 Gmail accounts that I need to check so am not even going to try this until GPush supports more than one account. That seems to be a short-sighted limited -- I realize that this in only release 1.1.

I have several eMail accounts with different hosts. What I do, is in each of the accounts, set it up to Forward ALL mail to my Yahoo email account. This way, on my iPhone, I only have the Yahoo account turned on. I did set it up for most of the accounts, but don't have them 'On' under Settings/Mail/Accouns/(account name). I set the others up just in case there was a problem with Yahoo. Anyway, Yahoo handles the Push pretty well. Every once in a great while, the Push may stop, and the Manual 15 minute check takes care of it. Usually, powering down the iPhone, and restarting takes care of the Push not working.

I'm on a PC and only one regular email account didin't allow forwarding. That was Hotmail regular. You had to have Premium paid to allow forwarding. There is an Application that you can run on your PC that will allow you to check any number of email accoounts, grab the mail in that account, and forward it to another. That Application ran resident in the background on the PC.

Rat-Boy
Aug 8, 2009, 10:53 AM
What are the differences? (no sarcasm, just wanted to know)
Technically speaking, as far as code, I am not sure.

But this is what I do know:

1) I have had Push Notifications turned on for that AP app and a few others for ever. Haven't noticed a lot of battery drain.

2) When I was using MobileMe, and had Push Email turned on, it drained the battery MUCH faster than without.

I am just about certain that Push Email takes more battery than the Push Notifications because I think the Notifications only use battery when you are getting a notification.

So, in the case of this GPush app, if they could get it working right obviously, I think it would use far less battery than if we had Push Gmail right to the Mail.app like MobileMe does.

Hope that makes sense.

Smrtphoneaddict
Aug 8, 2009, 10:55 AM
So if GPush got approved then Apple should really have no reason to reject a Gmail App from Google right?

ajnicho
Aug 8, 2009, 10:58 AM
Pushmail is better anyway!

Smrtphoneaddict
Aug 8, 2009, 11:00 AM
Just tried to buy GPush and it's no longer available. Please tell me the developer took it down to do further work and not Apple.

D1G1T4L
Aug 8, 2009, 11:38 AM
Push saves battery?

Since when?

Push NOTIFICATIONS might, but Push Email is a batter HOG on this phone.

They are two separate things often confused on this forum.

I'm confused then.

I always thought that Push email has the server initiated the connection with the phone once email arrived allowing the phone just sit there and listen for the connection. Fetching email would have the phone connect to the server on occasion to check if the server has emails to be delivered.

With those assumptions I thought that push would be less of a drain on the battery. I always had excellent battery life with my Blackberries.

Smrtphoneaddict
Aug 8, 2009, 11:45 AM
Good news Tiverias Apps pulled GPush. Here is what they said on their Twitter account.

"GPush made it to the App Store, we are aware of a server issue & we temporarily pulled the App off the store while we work on the servers."

So hopefully it will be back up soon.

DJ567
Aug 8, 2009, 11:48 AM
my gmail forwards to my mobile me... solves that problem all together

Compile 'em all
Aug 8, 2009, 11:50 AM
Push saves battery?

Since when?

Push NOTIFICATIONS might, but Push Email is a batter HOG on this phone.

They are two separate things often confused on this forum.

I don't think you have a good grasp of what you are really talking about.

Depending on how many emails you get per day, push email (ala IMAP Idle) can save A LOT of battery. Imagine lets say you get an email every 3 hrs. With a normal fetch (for example set to every 15 mins), Mail will check your email 12 times in 3 hrs. With Push, your mail will be checked once. When the email arrived. Naturally, there is a persistent connection kept alive, but it is pretty more damn efficient than checking every 15 mins even if you have no emails.

Apple doesn't need to implement push notifications for Mail, because Mail already runs in the background. It just needs to enable IMAP Idle. When an email arrives, they can show a simple pop up + badge just like the SMSs app.

Jayden0606
Aug 8, 2009, 12:56 PM
With those assumptions I thought that push would be less of a drain on the battery. I always had excellent battery life with my Blackberries.

Correct.

Push saves battery?

Since when?

Push NOTIFICATIONS might, but Push Email is a batter HOG on this phone.

They are two separate things often confused on this forum.

The confusion continues... lol.

Push Email uses less battery. In fact, the GPush uses more battery than having it be native. Why? Because, even if you turn fetching off, you still need to manually fetch the email. At this point, it is the same as having push email, but then with the addition of the app that alerts, this uses an additional 20% more battery (according to apple, whether the % is correct, it uses some time of battery) that if it were just push on the native app.

This is the reason BlackBerry devices have great battery life, it's not constantly fetching data on intervals (15min 30min, etc...), it only using battery life to push when needed. With fetching, you may not have any email and you utilize battery life checking.

andyhargreaves
Aug 8, 2009, 01:57 PM
Just got this email from the devs...

On Saturday August 8, 2009 GPush made it into the App store.* We are currently experiencing a server issue and have temporarily pulled the app from the store while we work on the problem.*This is an issue with our servers not the application and we will not need to go through the approval process again. If you have already downloaded the application, please know we are working to resolve the issue as soon as possible.

Please check back here or follow us at http://twitter.com/GPush4iPhone

Thank you for your patience and understanding,

Team GPush
*

mantic
Aug 8, 2009, 02:08 PM
It appears my excitement was very short lived :(

efp1
Aug 8, 2009, 02:13 PM
It was working great for me for the first few hours. It's now working right now. I guess they're fixing the servers.

I hope this isn't another mobilechat type thing. I doubt it since mobilechat never removed the app from the app store while it was having problems. Gpush has been removed pretty quickly so they can fix it. I guess that's a good sign that the developers are more concerned about getting it right than scamming people.

Rat-Boy
Aug 8, 2009, 03:14 PM
I don't think you have a good grasp of what you are really talking about.Well, I happen to think I have a perfect grasp of what I am talking about. I currently own four iPhones and have done extensive battery testing with PUSH Email, FETCH Email and apps with PUSH Notifications. (Again, NOT the same thing as PUSH Email.)

Depending on how many emails you get per day, push email (ala IMAP Idle) can save A LOT of battery. Imagine lets say you get an email every 3 hrs. With a normal fetch (for example set to every 15 mins), Mail will check your email 12 times in 3 hrs. With Push, your mail will be checked once. When the email arrived. Naturally, there is a persistent connection kept alive, but it is pretty more damn efficient than checking every 15 mins even if you have no emails.I never mentioned the word FETCH anywhere. Yes, Push is not as battery draining as FETCH. FETCH is the worst of the worst.



The confusion continues... lol.
Maybe you are confused? Because I am not confused at all.

Having Mobile Me, with Push email turned on, will drain more battery than just the GPush App running. (We will talk about getting the emails later.)

The added benefit of GPush is, if you don't like the blurb that is sent with the notification, then you don't have to check or download your email at all.

To each his own.

I think this is better because I can look at the notification, then decide whether to download the email manually by opening Mail.app, OR, I can not open Mail.app and not use any more battery.

And when I had push turned on with MobileMe, my battery life was horrendous. Couldn't even go a full work day on one charge. Now, I go the whole day with charge left.

Currently, I have that AP app with push turned on 24x7, and my battery does not drain.

ajnicho
Aug 8, 2009, 03:41 PM
Pushmail does the exact same thing as this yet can use any email. AND ITS FAST! AND, they dont have server problems.

D1G1T4L
Aug 8, 2009, 04:11 PM
Well, I happen to think I have a perfect grasp of what I am talking about. I currently own four iPhones

LOL

Well I own five iPhones so I must know more.....

Sorry just seemed like an odd statement :p


PS: I don't own five iPhones but have been employed as an engineer for MCI, Worldcom, and Verizon.


Having Mobile Me, with Push email turned on, will drain more battery than just the GPush App running. (We will talk about getting the emails later.)



Also with MobileMe....

My understanding from what has been said is that it maintains a persistent connection with the cloud and isn't Push as in the sense RIM does.

Again I might be wrong as I'm just going off my memory which isn't always the best these days.

fishkorp
Aug 8, 2009, 04:54 PM
My guess as to how GPush works is that it's just using the authenticated Gmail RSS unread feed. In order to act like a true push, it would have to be polling the RSS feed every second. Imagine the server resources needed to poll the Gmail RSS feed every second for every single one of the people that bought the app. If that's how the developer is implementing it, that's the reason the server is down. If they developed it a different way (some sort of pass-thru listener or something), then disregard everything I said :D But most push or instant notification options for Gmail use RSS (Google Notifier, Mailplane, etc).

sinsin07
Aug 8, 2009, 05:10 PM
Correct.



The confusion continues... lol.

Push Email uses less battery. In fact, the GPush uses more battery than having it be native. Why? Because, even if you turn fetching off, you still need to manually fetch the email. At this point, it is the same as having push email, but then with the addition of the app that alerts, this uses an additional 20% more battery (according to apple, whether the % is correct, it uses some time of battery) that if it were just push on the native app.

This is the reason BlackBerry devices have great battery life, it's not constantly fetching data on intervals (15min 30min, etc...), it only using battery life to push when needed. With fetching, you may not have any email and you utilize battery life checking.

Concerning the second part of your statement. That is only part of the reason BB have great battery life.

Andrew Henry
Aug 8, 2009, 05:16 PM
I emailed them about the popup refusing login, here's what I got:

On Saturday August 8, 2009 GPush made it into the App store. We are currently experiencing a server issue and have temporarily pulled the app from the store while we work on the problem. This is an issue with our servers not the application and we will not need to go through the approval process again. If you have already downloaded the application, please know we are working to resolve the issue as soon as possible.

Please check back here or follow us at http://twitter.com/GPush4iPhone

Thank you for your patience and understanding,

Team GPush

Rat-Boy
Aug 8, 2009, 06:05 PM
LOL

Well I own five iPhones so I must know more.....

Sorry just seemed like an odd statement :p


PS: I don't own five iPhones but have been employed as an engineer for MCI, Worldcom, and Verizon.
I only said that to eliminate any thoughts of a fluke malfunctioning phone.
Also with MobileMe....

My understanding from what has been said is that it maintains a persistent connection with the cloud and isn't Push as in the sense RIM does.

Again I might be wrong as I'm just going off my memory which isn't always the best these days.
You are correct.

Small White Car
Aug 9, 2009, 01:49 AM
I never mentioned the word FETCH anywhere. Yes, Push is not as battery draining as FETCH. FETCH is the worst of the worst.


Did you type all those posts just to be funny? Or was it just a huge mistake?

It was obvious that Compile 'em all was talking about fetch. Then, after you make 2 posts explaining how wrong he is, you act all surprised when he mentions fetch as if it never occurred to you that that's what he was talking about. And after admitting you didn't understand his initial post, you call other people confused.

I'm sorry to harp on this, but I get annoyed when someone calls someone wrong, then admits they didn't understand the original argument, then acts like that's the other person's fault. Compile doesn't deserve that.

MacBacker
Aug 9, 2009, 03:31 AM
Push saves battery?

Since when?

Push NOTIFICATIONS might, but Push Email is a batter HOG on this phone.

They are two separate things often confused on this forum.

I think it may save the battery compared to when your email checks automatically (i.e. every 5 minutes, etc).

So if it just let you know you have an email in your mailbox, then its just like getting a text. I dunno, just thought I'd throw my .02 in.

NewGenAdam
Aug 9, 2009, 06:15 AM
Yay it arrives (but alas, not in the UK)

How hard would it be to get a custom web browser pointed to your gmail.com when you open the app? Hmm

rendez2k
Aug 9, 2009, 06:21 AM
Yay it arrives (but alas, not in the UK)

How hard would it be to get a custom web browser pointed to your gmail.com when you open the app? Hmm

It is (or was) out in the UK as I got it. But it has been removed for now as they have issues with the server apparently.

Rat-Boy
Aug 9, 2009, 09:34 AM
Did you type all those posts just to be funny? Or was it just a huge mistake?
No, I didn't

It was obvious that Compile 'em all was talking about fetch.Really? Maybe it was obvious to you.

But saying "Push Email saves Battery" in a thread about GPush (which is not the same thing as push email), but Push Notifications, does not make it sound like he was talking about FETCH at all..

I honestly thought he was talking about Push Email saving battery over Push Notifications, hence the rest of my posts stating that I pretty much know that is false.

I'm sorry to harp on this, but I get annoyed when someone calls someone wrong, then admits they didn't understand the original argument, then acts like that's the other person's fault. Compile doesn't deserve that.And I get annoyed when someone else gets annoyed because we all aren't mind readers when someone goes slightly off topic and are just supposed to read tea leaves to determine they are talking about something else.

applehappy
Aug 9, 2009, 03:57 PM
Probably because it doesn't work. After numerous tries I get the following error: Could not communicate with server. Error Domain=NSURLErrorDomain Code=-1004 UserInfo=xxxxxx can't connect to host. You may not receive GMail push notifications.

This was a total rip off!

Hey, I know, calm down and give it a day or two. They got approved on a weekend and imagine the number of people wanting in, and the traffic resulting from use of the app.

DeuceDeuce
Aug 9, 2009, 04:06 PM
No, I didn't
Really? Maybe it was obvious to you.

But saying "Push Email saves Battery" in a thread about GPush (which is not the same thing as push email), but Push Notifications, does not make it sound like he was talking about FETCH at all..

I honestly thought he was talking about Push Email saving battery over Push Notifications, hence the rest of my posts stating that I pretty much know that is false.

And I get annoyed when someone else gets annoyed because we all aren't mind readers when someone goes slightly off topic and are just supposed to read tea leaves to determine they are talking about something else.

It seems like you were really the only one confused bud.

maximus96
Aug 9, 2009, 06:44 PM
So thus only works for one gmail account huh? I have two that I use. So the other one have to remain in fetch mode.

blulegend
Aug 9, 2009, 07:47 PM
So thus only works for one gmail account huh? I have two that I use. So the other one have to remain in fetch mode.

Pushmail is supposed to work for more than one account.

Rat-Boy
Aug 9, 2009, 08:48 PM
It seems like you were really the only one confused bud.
Ah.

I know.

Everyone else was able to read his mind and know he was talking about FETCH, which he never mentioned in his original post.

Fine.

Here is his original post:
Agreed. I have 3 gmail accounts and all of them are of equal importance.

I really am wondering if Mail will ever get native push gmail. I mean it would be good for Apple because push does save a lot of battery.

In a thread about GPush. Yet, I am confused and EVERY one else just KNEW he was talking about as compared to Fetch?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

At any rate, I apologize if I offended Compile'em as that wasn't my intention.

Now, back on topic, which has very little to do with Fetch anyway in my opinion, and that is the GPush App.

GPush will use less battery than Push Email. That is my take, that is what I meant, and I stick by it.

bbplayer5
Aug 9, 2009, 09:08 PM
Push notifications and Push email use the same socket connection. Having 1 of them enabled vs 2 is exactly the same battery drain. Therefore there is no benefit to this program other than having emails pop up on your screen directly from a gmail ping.

Rat-Boy
Aug 9, 2009, 09:21 PM
Push notifications and Push email use the same socket connection. Having 1 of them enabled vs 2 is exactly the same battery drain. Therefore there is no benefit to this program other than having emails pop up on your screen directly from a gmail ping.
Sorry, but I disagree strongly with this statement.

When I had PUSH Email turned on with Mobile Me, my battery drained fast.

Right now, I have the AP app with push enabled all the time.

My battery isn't draining nearly as fast.

I honestly don't think they are the same or work the same way.

GeneralP
Aug 9, 2009, 09:24 PM
personally sounds like the creators were ill prepaired for this release. "Server issues" just means poor planning. . . sounds like fraud by failure to deliver a service after payment has been made.

Khryz
Aug 9, 2009, 09:30 PM
I'm confused -- isn't there a Mail App that comes with every iPhone?

Is the reason for this because people want instant push instead of the 15 minutes?

bbplayer5
Aug 9, 2009, 09:39 PM
I'm confused -- isn't there a Mail App that comes with every iPhone?

Is the reason for this because people want instant push instead of the 15 minutes?

A mail app that hardly informs you that you have email, other than a really quiet sound? That one? Jailbreaking is ideal with the notify program, but this app has a purpose I guess.

And push email and push notifications run on the same connection to Apple. If it didnt, all of your apps would open a new socket with multiple servers and 10 times the battery drain.

Push email - Push notifications = the same service.

Rat-Boy
Aug 9, 2009, 09:39 PM
I'm confused -- isn't there a Mail App that comes with every iPhone?

Is the reason for this because people want instant push instead of the 15 minutes?Yes.

This app is to try and make your iPhone as close to a blackberry as possible when it comes to email notification speed.

Khryz
Aug 10, 2009, 12:13 AM
Yes.

This app is to try and make your iPhone as close to a blackberry as possible when it comes to email notification speed.

Okay so question -- why does the iPhone's default Mail app only push at 15 minutes the minimum .. why not instantly? I always wondered that.

maximus96
Aug 10, 2009, 12:33 AM
Okay so question -- why does the iPhone's default Mail app only push at 15 minutes the minimum .. why not instantly? I always wondered that.

thats fetch, it just checks in every 15 minutes and download the emails, if there is any

xolan99
Aug 10, 2009, 02:27 AM
I've given up on waiting for this app. I've put in my $5 towards PushMail.

If they're having this much trouble at launch, I'm not ready to believe that it won't happen again.

vega07
Aug 10, 2009, 02:37 AM
pushmail is much more reliable and secure. plus you can use it for all of your email accounts. it's a no brainer (besides the price of course)....

Andrew Henry
Aug 10, 2009, 02:44 AM
I've given up on waiting for this app. I've put in my $5 towards PushMail.

If they're having this much trouble at launch, I'm not ready to believe that it won't happen again.

pushmail is much more reliable and secure. plus you can use it for all of your email accounts. it's a no brainer (besides the price of course)....


Thank you for the input, if that's what you choose to use, then do so, but those of us using GPush or waiting for it, with all due respect, don't really care.

Thanks though

Andrew

vettori
Aug 10, 2009, 03:14 AM
I suppose that every app that pushes has to be sold with a yearly fee (in-app purchase?) to allow developers pay the servers that are needed.

Rat-Boy
Aug 10, 2009, 08:03 AM
I suppose that every app that pushes has to be sold with a yearly fee (in-app purchase?) to allow developers pay the servers that are needed.Not sure what you mean.

But there is no yearly fee for the AP app or BeeJive, and both have Push Notifications enabled.

xolan99
Aug 10, 2009, 08:03 AM
Thank you for the input, if that's what you choose to use, then do so, but those of us using GPush or waiting for it, with all due respect, don't really care.

Thanks though

Andrew

Merely expressing an opinion...you know, like every other thread on this board. :)

vettori
Aug 10, 2009, 08:23 AM
Not sure what you mean.

But there is no yearly fee for the AP app or BeeJive, and both have Push Notifications enabled.

I mean that since the push technology requires recurrent costs (i.e. servers, bandwidth, etc...) in my opinion apps that push and does not require a recurring fee, sooner or later will have server problems because developers have recurring costs but "one-time" income.
This is especially true if the "one-time" income is very small.

Compile 'em all
Aug 10, 2009, 08:52 AM
Ah.

In a thread about GPush. Yet, I am confused and EVERY one else just KNEW he was talking about as compared to Fetch?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.


I was talking about fetch email as compared to push email. Just in case you are still failing to read my mind :p. My post was and still is very relevant to an app that is called G"Push". No worries though, everything is cool :)

Anyway, I don't have mobileme to test but it would be interesting to know how does Push Notification+Manual Fetch compare to push email.

Shark131
Aug 10, 2009, 12:17 PM
I've given up on waiting for this app. I've put in my $5 towards PushMail.

If they're having this much trouble at launch, I'm not ready to believe that it won't happen again.

Because of your impatience you wasted $5 on something you could have done for free with Yahoo Mail.

vivithemage
Aug 10, 2009, 12:37 PM
Because of your impatience you wasted $5 on something you could have done for free with Yahoo Mail.

i have been testing yahoo mail all morning, it's really flakey, and only sends 20% of my emails to my iphone...

Shark131
Aug 10, 2009, 01:18 PM
Still you can buy Gpush for .99 and forward mail from other accounts to your main email.

vivithemage
Aug 10, 2009, 01:55 PM
but when I reply, it will be as if I am replying from my main account, which I do not want.

xolan99
Aug 10, 2009, 03:09 PM
Because of your impatience you wasted $5 on something you could have done for free with Yahoo Mail.

Really? So Yahoo gives you Notifications on your screen?

What I didn't like about the Yahoo method too was that I'd have to go in and delete emails from both my Yahoo and Gmail accounts.

mikeinternet
Aug 10, 2009, 03:11 PM
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/08/08/app-store-thaw-apple-accepts-a-gmail-push-application/

cmaier
Aug 10, 2009, 03:13 PM
Already threads on that

SFStateStudent
Aug 10, 2009, 03:15 PM
But still not in the Apple App Store for the next 24 hours due to a problem with Amazon.....:eek:

I do like the GPush Logo/Icon:

Shark131
Aug 10, 2009, 03:17 PM
but when I reply, it will be as if I am replying from my main account, which I do not want.

You know, you have the ability to choose which email address you send from. It's between 'To:' and 'Subject:'.


And Xolan, I ran into that problem as well but if it saves you $5 it would be worth it. Unless $5 means absolutely nothing to you and you can afford it.

GeneralP
Aug 10, 2009, 03:33 PM
another worthless app rushed thru the system. It wasnt even out 24 hours before it was pulled....

STEVESKI07
Aug 10, 2009, 03:43 PM
another worthless app rushed thru the system. It wasnt even out 24 hours before it was pulled....

To tell you the truth, I love the way my forwarding to Yahoo mail works. I will never download anything like this. I get a quiet noise and a small vibrate come through when I get a new email. I simply open up my Gmail and it downloads for me. I do not want an obtrustive pop up notification every time I get an email. If I'm not by my phone for a while, the first thing I normally do is check my email on it anyways, so I don't want to have to close out 4 popup notifications every time I leave my phone alone for 30 minutes. This might be great for some, but not for me.

Reclaim3r
Aug 10, 2009, 03:52 PM
Yeah... I think I'll stick with my Gmail to Yahoo workaround for now.

Scooterman1
Aug 10, 2009, 04:01 PM
That's what I do.... I forward ALL of my email accounts to Yahoo. I even have a program on the PC (GetMail) that runs in the background and gets mail from my Hotmail and forwards to Yahoo. There's also background Apps to run on a Mac for Hotmail.

xolan99
Aug 10, 2009, 04:02 PM
You know, you have the ability to choose which email address you send from. It's between 'To:' and 'Subject:'.


And Xolan, I ran into that problem as well but if it saves you $5 it would be worth it. Unless $5 means absolutely nothing to you and you can afford it.

For me it's worth it because I receive/reply maybe 20-30 emails a day. I'd have to change my "From" field 20-30 times and go into my iPhone to download an extra 20-30 emails and delete them.

renewed
Aug 10, 2009, 04:08 PM
Said the app is not currently available in the US store...

gloss
Aug 10, 2009, 04:08 PM
To tell you the truth, I love the way my forwarding to Yahoo mail works. I will never download anything like this. I get a quiet noise and a small vibrate come through when I get a new email. I simply open up my Gmail and it downloads for me. I do not want an obtrustive pop up notification every time I get an email. If I'm not by my phone for a while, the first thing I normally do is check my email on it anyways, so I don't want to have to close out 4 popup notifications every time I leave my phone alone for 30 minutes. This might be great for some, but not for me.

You do realize that you can customize push notifications? You could just switch off alerts and leave sound/badge turned on.

GeneralP
Aug 10, 2009, 05:00 PM
Something to look at with this app is who it was built by. It is NOT GOOGLE sponsored. It is a private company who created the app. They can not support the load / demand as proven by their having to take it down. When Google comes out with real push mail I am sure it will work great... This is just another workaround and someone trying to make a buck off it. I say skip this app and keep doing what we have been doing.

Shark131
Aug 11, 2009, 12:39 AM
For me it's worth it because I receive/reply maybe 20-30 emails a day. I'd have to change my "From" field 20-30 times and go into my iPhone to download an extra 20-30 emails and delete them.

It takes what? 4 seconds? You'll spend $5 but won't spend 4 seconds to do something?

xolan99
Aug 11, 2009, 10:24 AM
It takes what? 4 seconds? You'll spend $5 but won't spend 4 seconds to do something?

4 seconds times 20-30 emails a day = 80 seconds to 2 minutes a day

times 5 days a week = an extra 10 minutes

10 minutes a week times 4 times a month = 40 minutes a month

Yes, a 1 time fee for $5 is worth it.

Why am I having to justify my app purchase? If you do your way for free and it works for you, good for you. But I need something that's efficient and less time consuming

xolan99
Aug 11, 2009, 10:27 AM
It takes what? 4 seconds? You'll spend $5 but won't spend 4 seconds to do something?

Also, like I said, apps like GPush (when it becomes available) and Push Mail will give you notifications on your screen. So I can see what email I just got without having to unlock my phone and open the mail app. That saves time too if I don't need the email right away - something a free Yahoo workaround doesn't solve.

Shark131
Aug 11, 2009, 12:48 PM
Anyone know when it will be available again?

maximus96
Aug 11, 2009, 12:54 PM
i still get a "credentials refused" error when i try to open it.

nfl46
Aug 11, 2009, 01:57 PM
Anyone know when it will be available again?

Today's key scaling issue has been resolved - programmers still working hard - would like to thank everyone for their continued patience

http://twitter.com/GPush4iPhone

maximus96
Aug 12, 2009, 05:58 PM
works now, i think. my credentials were accepted. i have to test it some more...

efp1
Aug 13, 2009, 08:18 AM
It's working again. At least for me it is.

Based on their twitter page, I'm assuming they'll make it available once again today or tomorrow if all goes well. They've started bringing their servers up one by one and plan on having them all online at about 17.00h today, 11.00h in the east coast.

tbm248
Aug 13, 2009, 06:58 PM
So, I'm still a bit confused about the battery life consequences of this app.

Right now, I just check my mail manually, however, I'm interested in this app. Will my battery life suffer by having push notifications for gmail? If so, is it negligible, dependent on the number of emails I get?

This is a big factor for me as I already wish the battery life wouldn't drain so quickly, and so, don't want to add something that makes it notably worse.

applehappy
Aug 13, 2009, 07:33 PM
So, I'm still a bit confused about the battery life consequences of this app.

Right now, I just check my mail manually, however, I'm interested in this app. Will my battery life suffer by having push notifications for gmail? If so, is it negligible, dependent on the number of emails I get?

This is a big factor for me as I already wish the battery life wouldn't drain so quickly, and so, don't want to add something that makes it notably worse.

I'm sure someone might out-geek me on this, but here is my understanding. There are several terms that get interchanged, so to be clear: Gpush sends data to your phone via the same means as SMS messages, which is via the data stream your phone has with the cell network at all times. My understand is that this uses almost no more power consumption by your phone that when it is powered on and doing "nothing." So Gpush sends a text message to your phone that appears (if you choose) on your screen with the subj and beginning of the email. If you also choose, it will vibrate and/or make a sound. The badge on Gpush supposedly updates automatically reflecting the number of unread emails in your gmail inbox. The big power savings is that you can change your email to check manually (when you open the app) which is a significant power savings if you currently have it check periodically.

tbm248
Aug 13, 2009, 07:44 PM
I'm sure someone might out-geek me on this, but here is my understanding. There are several terms that get interchanged, so to be clear: Gpush sends data to your phone via the same means as SMS messages, which is via the data stream your phone has with the cell network at all times. My understand is that this uses almost no more power consumption by your phone that when it is powered on and doing "nothing." So Gpush sends a text message to your phone that appears (if you choose) on your screen with the subj and beginning of the email. If you also choose, it will vibrate and/or make a sound. The badge on Gpush supposedly updates automatically reflecting the number of unread emails in your gmail inbox. The big power savings is that you can change your email to check manually (when you open the app) which is a significant power savings if you currently have it check periodically.

Thanks! Sounds pretty good.

Like I said, right now I check my email manually, but I would like to see notifications for gmail, and decide for myself if I want/need to open the mail app to read the mail.

Just one other question - The GPUSH notifications wouldn't count as an SMS would they? I don't think they would, but just want to make sure since I currently do not have a texting plan.

applehappy
Aug 13, 2009, 09:31 PM
It uses the same technology that other Push apps use, so no charge for it. ;)

maximus96
Aug 13, 2009, 10:27 PM
now i get an error that the Mail app can't connect to gmail to retrieve the message after gpush tells me there is new mail. my other gmail account, not tied to gpush, connects to google just fine.

efp1
Aug 14, 2009, 04:25 AM
now i get an error that the Mail app can't connect to gmail to retrieve the message after gpush tells me there is new mail. my other gmail account, not tied to gpush, connects to google just fine.

Same here. In my Mail application on my mac tells me that there are too many connections or something. Maybe you can't run 3 IMAP gmail sessions at the same time?

interconnect
Aug 14, 2009, 01:58 PM
looks like it might make it back into the app store today...

http://twitter.com/tiveriasapps

maximus96
Aug 14, 2009, 02:03 PM
looks like they still have bugs, i'm not getting anything pushed right now even though my credentials were accepted...

tbm248
Aug 14, 2009, 06:27 PM
It uses the same technology that other Push apps use, so no charge for it. ;)

Good stuff, thanks! :)

tbm248
Aug 14, 2009, 06:28 PM
From their twitter page --

GPush will be in the App Store on Monday August 17, 2009 at 9:00 AM EST and Servers will be up and running.

muledogus
Aug 17, 2009, 10:15 AM
It's there now, it's not working for me yet. Probably some server problems.

ndmx52
Aug 17, 2009, 10:39 AM
seems to be working for me!

kicko
Aug 17, 2009, 10:40 AM
I was going to pass on this one but i think it might actually be pretty useful and you can't agrue with .99

Smrtphoneaddict
Aug 17, 2009, 10:49 AM
So far it's not working for me.

muledogus
Aug 17, 2009, 11:51 AM
mine works now.

it works pretty well but it still leaves me wanting actual push from google.

brinycbri
Aug 17, 2009, 12:00 PM
nope, doesn't work for me, very very spotty..got it to work once out of the 10 test emails

funnyboy88
Aug 17, 2009, 01:01 PM
Bought it. Doesn't work at all. What is with these guys?

maximus96
Aug 17, 2009, 01:02 PM
i think they still have server issues. i only got one out of many emails pushed this morning, and even then, it came way late. hope they fix it soon...

duvall87
Aug 17, 2009, 02:11 PM
hi, just purchased this today. accepted credentials first attempt but not recieved any of my test notifications. was wandering if i had to have my mail settings set up a particular way i.e push on or fetch etc?

maximus96
Aug 17, 2009, 02:17 PM
hi, just purchased this today. accepted credentials first attempt but not recieved any of my test notifications. was wandering if i had to have my mail settings set up a particular way i.e push on or fetch etc?

when it works, it works, there's no need to change anything in the mail settings. however, it seems to be hit or miss for users. it hasn't worked for me yet. it did work last week while they were fixing/upgrading their servers.

according to their tweets, they are only at 0.1% of the max server load so who know what the problem is.

wolfpackfan
Aug 17, 2009, 02:19 PM
It's not pushing for me at all. So far Mail is letting me know I have email and Gpush just sits there. I'm glad it was just .99. I wanted to use it to replace Mail and use the Gmail webpage to access my email. But if this isn't going to work I'll have to go back to Mail. It's a shame they don't have it so if you start the app after you get an email, it goes directly to Gmail for you. I can't image that being difficult to program.

maximus96
Aug 17, 2009, 02:37 PM
try to resubmit credentials two or three times in a row. seem to have fixed it for me. it pushed the last two test emails very fast.

Davoo
Aug 17, 2009, 02:58 PM
Pushmail works perfect everytime (with Gmail) and has since it was released.

maximus96
Aug 17, 2009, 03:01 PM
isn't that just forwarding gmail to their service? i tried to forward my gmail to push yahoo. it worked just fine, but i hate having duplicate copies of emails in both yahoo and gmail inboxes...

interconnect
Aug 17, 2009, 03:16 PM
this hasn't worked once for me either. i've tried 8-9 test emails and never got a single notification!

blulegend
Aug 17, 2009, 04:15 PM
isn't that just forwarding gmail to their service? i tried to forward my gmail to push yahoo. it worked just fine, but i hate having duplicate copies of emails in both yahoo and gmail inboxes...

Pushmail doesn't create a new inbox for you. You forward your mail to it and it gets the necessary info for the push notification and then trashes the email.

mikejd1
Aug 17, 2009, 07:53 PM
program is utter crap, 99 cent better spent on a small coffee, ugh

maximus96
Aug 17, 2009, 07:57 PM
it was working fine for a few hours, with new mail getting pushed, now its back to off again...

nippyjun
Aug 22, 2009, 05:07 PM
Does anyone know why on the gpush web site it says that imap must be enabled for your gmail account.

I only use pop, if i enable imap in gmail itself will that affect my ability get mail from clients that use pop?

brian5
Aug 23, 2009, 06:59 AM
Does anyone know why on the gpush web site it says that imap must be enabled for your gmail account.

I only use pop, if i enable imap in gmail itself will that affect my ability get mail from clients that use pop?
No, it will not. You can use POP only and have IMAP turned on. That's how my accounts are set right now. Doesn't mean that GPush will work though :(

nippyjun
Aug 23, 2009, 11:08 AM
No, it will not. You can use POP only and have IMAP turned on. That's how my accounts are set right now. Doesn't mean that GPush will work though :(


Thanks. I've got it set up and it seems to be working fine.

1984world
Aug 23, 2009, 01:32 PM
I purchased this two days ago, and though a bit leery at first, i figured it was only a buck and id try it. Works flawlessly for me, I get my gmail right away with no issues. I think they've worked a lot of the bugs out, and will continue to do so. :)

applehappy
Aug 23, 2009, 02:48 PM
These guys had a rough start, but Gpush is working perfectly now. Unreal product, exactly what I wanted to have on my iPhone. Emails pop up almost instantly as an SMS type message on the screen, very cool. They say they are working on making the sound selectable, right now it is the SMS default. Other improvements coming, according to them.

dj420118
Aug 23, 2009, 09:02 PM
Installing Gpush has actually prevented me from checking my gmail account on my iPhone. I keep getting the cannot connect to the imap server error. I have tried going to that google website that "forces" logins to work without any luck. I have also reset my phone, deleted gmail off of my phone, and tried to redo the whole thing without any success. When installing an app f***s up my email this bad it should plain be removed from the store. I am still waiting on a reply from the company on how to fix my problem.