Today was a very sad day...

[JzzTrump22]

I was so excited because my dad was taking me to the mac store to buy my first mac, a powerbook for graduation. So when i get to the store, i told the guy i wanted the 15" 1.5 with upgraded vram, upgraded hd, and to downgrade to the combo drive. The the worst sentence i ever heard came out of his mouth... "we can't cusomize like that in the store, if you want that you have to order online." So i go home and am getting ready to order online and then my dad starts to question me weather i really need this particular laptop and what i'm using it for that i need so much power. I told him garage band and photoshop and stuff like that which is true, but it's also for gaming. He hates video games and i love them. I can't live without them. He gets so pissed everytime he see's me in front of my xbox. So he can't know that. I know future games are going to require specs that i mentioned above. And this thing is going to last me a good 6 years or so. I'm going to be a music major in college, so this is an ideal computer for me. I tried explaining to him that it's a very good investment, it's well worth it. You get a lot for your money. Plus i can get the free printer right now with my student discount. Then he says "i put a p4 together for under 500, why can't you do that instead?" I really felt like killing myself at that point. Any body have some advice.... or comfort? :(

[SwitchingSoon]

I told my dad I need a G5 to last me a good six years or so by explaining I use processor intensive programs like maya, photoshop, etc. I also told him about garageband and he was sold (he wants me to develop my music skills). I also told him that I will play less games because most are made PC only.

Explain to you dad that it's dire that you get the best now so that it can last a longer time and that perhaps you NEEd mac-only applications.

[cr2sh]

Not once did my parents purchase their eldest son a $3k computer. Quite frankly, you two sound like a couple of brats, brooding over your father's lack of ineptitude. Deal with it. From your description of your aspirations for this laptop, it certainly doesn’t sound like you need a 15”….

To play games? Are you serious? You already have an xbox... not to mention very little understanding of the macintosh as a gaming platform.

The very fact that you're lying to your Dad makes you sound so childish and repugnant.

If your Dad builds you a p4, be happy. If you want a powerbook (or a g5) get a job. Quit expecting to be handed something just because you want it.

[jsw]

Agreed. Dude, you almost had a 15" PB that would have been great for your legitimate needs. You screwed up by getting too greedy. Take the PC. Buy your own PB.

[Amani]

I told my dad I need a G5 to last me a good six years or so by explaining I use processor intensive programs like maya, photoshop, etc. I also told him about garageband and he was sold (he wants me to develop my music skills). I also told him that I will play less games because most are made PC only.

My 6 yr. old daughter has been so anxious to ger her hands on garage band, but neither one of us has music skills. I got a book to learn the basics of the program and introduce her to the program as soon as I can figure it out. It really makes me finally want to learn an instrument. I took a little piano in college, but now I have more of an incentive to do so.

[JzzTrump22]

It's a gift, he is buying it for me as a graduation present, money is not an issue. And i'm not lying to him in any way, and i can't bring the xbox to college. First of all, cr2sh, it's $2209.00 and it will last me a long long time, secondly mabey you should learn how to read. I mentioned all the things i was using it for. I'm a music major, macs are much better suited for music and media then pc's. He knows that, and thats why he's buying it for me. I'm not using it mainly for games, if i wanted to do that i could buy my own cheap pos pc from dell. I'm not going to say anything nasty. I'm not here to start a fight. My father didn't offer me a pc, he knows i've been wanting a mac for a long time, he was just curious as to why i needed such a powerfull machine. The main reason is recording. Me and my friends are trying to start a mini jazz band and we are going to need something with some power. Not a piece of junnk that will crap out on us.

[jsw]

Easy there, calling someone a retard when you started a thread looking for pity because your $2K+ gift might fall through.

And no PB in existence is going to be ideal for, as you say, "FUTURE" games. They're adequate now. They'll be usable in the future. They don't have replaceable graphics cards, so they'll never be great.

[jknight8907]

Games will eventually reach the level to where they will need specs like that

Actually, its the other way around. WindBlows is what you need to go with if you want to play serious games. They've just got more power in that department.

Understand that your dad will also have to pay for your college, and dorm, and books, etc, unless you've got a massive scholarship. Maybe you should go easy on his pocketbook and be happy with a really good computer (stock 15") instead of a unbelievable one (your specs). Besides, stock will be more that good enough for your uses.

[SwitchingSoon]

Not once did my parents purchase their eldest son a $3k computer. Quite frankly, you two sound like a couple of brats, brooding over your father's lack of ineptitude. Deal with it. From your description of your aspirations for this laptop, it certainly doesn’t sound like you need a 15”….

To play games? Are you serious? You already have an xbox... not to mention very little understanding of the macintosh as a gaming platform.

The very fact that you're lying to your Dad makes you sound so childish and repugnant.

If your Dad builds you a p4, be happy. If you want a powerbook (or a g5) get a job. Quit expecting to be handed something just because you want it.

Get over it. What I didn't mention is that I saved up for over half of it through summer jobs. And yes, I do use processor intensive programs like maya and the speed is a must. I'm actually planning to go to a graphic designs field (one or the other), so the extra power will be appreciated.

Besides, the g5 will be the one and only computer where I get my parents' financial support, ever. I'm currently using the family pentium celeron.

Stop being so anal. It sounds like you're more jealous that he's a student who might be getting a 15" powerbook (and boohoo, you didn't) than anything else.

Also, you clearly missed the fact that his computer will come in handy for the years down the road, especially considering future revisions of garageband, photoshop, maya, etc. will be more processing-intensive than current versions. What is a fast computer today will barely make the cut in 6 years.

Amani- you're right... garageband will be a great tool to get your daughter excited about music for years to come. My piano teacher recently retired so I was reluctant to find a new one, so I'm looking forward to start practicing regularly again and experimenting with my own music writing. I also want to record songs I've played with a MIDI keyboard and keeping a library of songs I've played over the years

[JzzTrump22]

I know windows is a better gaming platform then mac. But thats not my number one reason. It's nice to play games and stuff, but i have more important things i'm using it for. Recording and mixing is my biggest thing.
Thank you SWITCHINGSOON for the backup.

[furrina]

It seems that a serious number of people on this board are college students or high school students about to enter college. When I discoverd that it kind of dumbfounded me. A lot of those students are on their third powerbook rev or iBook and/or talking about how they are about to get a G5 "for university." Whether they're getting them from parents or their own savings seems to be about even. I know it's been a long time since I have been in college, and that a computer is a necessary tool for education, (probably the most important one, not counting a brain). A lot of these students seem not to be design or video students either. For a 19 year old this seems like an awfully expensive habit.

For the record I hardly came from a deprived home, and my job treats me well, but it's kind of funny that I'm stressing out over dropping the cash and justifying the need (or just plain want) for this stuff, replacing my poor old 4-year-old Pismo (and I actually edit video, though not as a day job) when there are all of these hi school/college students on their third powerbook getting g5s. I think it actually helps me justify it more :rolleyes: I use this on my parents because they think I'm cra$y.

I have no grudge against 'em, nor do I think there's anything wrong with it, I just think it's interesting to hear someone trying to decide whether to get the 2 or the 2.5 G5 to replace their powerbook and find out they're 17.

p.s. Just ask your dad for the cash so you can choose what you want. Tell him it will help teach you how to spend money more wisely. :cool: Also write up a list of the features it has that are advantageous and how you will use them, back it up with urls from music sites, etc. It will help to see it in writing (looks more factual) and sometimes they like to see that you put some effort into this decision rather than just a case of the gimmees.

[angelneo]

cool down JzzTrump22, I guess some of those who replied might already have kids of their own so they might be coming from a parental point of view. Truth be told, a PB really cost quite some money especially if you are paying out of your own. Let this slide for some time, be a good son and perhaps ask later when he's in a good mood.

[FuzzyBallz]

Damn, I can get a complete PC system for the price of Apple Care. I should be your dad's writer.

[musicpyrite]

I have no grudge against 'em, nor do I think there's anything wrong with it, I just think it's interesting to hear someone trying to decide whether to get the 2 or the 2.5 G5 to replace their powerbook and find out they're 17.

Age has nothing to do with how a powerful computer you need. According to you, only people 50 and over deserve to get a G5, and people under 21 deserve to get an eMac.

[JzzTrump22]

I'm cool , i'm not getting worked up or anything, i'm just trying to defend myself as to why i'm getting it. Some people seem a little jealous like cr2sh. My dads cool with why i want to get this particular pb. He knows i'm mostly doing recording and stuff. He supports me 100%.

[CubaTBird]

Hey guys, all I got to say is that I busted my butt second semester of my junior year in high school so I could get this ibook. So I WORKED for it. Soon though, I will also get the ipod as well.. :cool:

[SwitchingSoon]

Hey guys, all I got to say is that I busted my butt second semester of my junior year in high school so I could get this ibook. So I WORKED for it. Soon though, I will also get the ipod as well.. :cool:

Want a cookie?

Seriously, that's cool.... "cookie-worthy" cool...

[furrina]

Hey guys, all I got to say is that I busted my butt second semester of my junior year in high school so I could get this ibook. So I WORKED for it. Soon though, I will also get the ipod as well.. :cool:

<political nonsense> hmm...For those who embrace Big Shiny American Capitalism with a big hug, that seems to be a noble enough claim. It's what the American Dream is all about. Just to throw it out there, from an alternative (or Socialist, if you prefer) perspective, it's a perfect (shudder) example of, well, the same. You literally have children (and 50 year-olds) "busting my butt" (visualize this if you will) for...an iPod! Just a leetle provocation. </political nonsense>


FTR I love my iPod...
:rolleyes:

[Koodauw]

Just explain to them why the upgrades are important to you, and they should understand. You have to realize when its not your money, you are not the one making the final call. I would say a 2,000 laptop is a bit much for a college student, but I know plenty who have them.

[JzzTrump22]

I'm trying to think ahead. I know by putting upgrades on the machine, it will increase it's resale value. I'm not saying that i want to sell it, but mabey sometime down the road i might want/need to sell it. I'll get more money for it with the upgrades. Plus i'll have a better chance of selling it because people won't be looking at the 1.33, they'll want the 1.5's with upgrades. I'll admit the extra vram is't necessary but it just makes the value of the machine better overall. It does increase performance, thats where the games come in. Plus it's only $45 for that upgrade. Secondly the machine will perform much better with a faster hd, everyone knows that, i shouldn't have to explain that one. Then i'm downgrading the dvd burner. So if you think about it, i'm saving $90 plus another $300 with student discount. Plus a free printer.

[topicolo]

I'm trying to think ahead. I know by putting upgrades on the machine, it will increase it's resale value. I'm not saying that i want to sell it, but mabey sometime down the road i might want/need to sell it. I'll get more money for it with the upgrades. Plus i'll have a better chance of selling it because people won't be looking at the 1.33, they'll want the 1.5's with upgrades. I'll admit the extra vram is't necessary but it just makes the value of the machine better overall. It does increase performance, thats where the games come in. Plus it's only $45 for that upgrade. Secondly the machine will perform much better with a faster hd, everyone knows that, i shouldn't have to explain that one. Then i'm downgrading the dvd burner. So if you think about it, i'm saving $90 plus another $300 with student discount. Plus a free printer.

If you wanted to convince your dad not to get you the P4, why didn't you just tell him that you'll be tempted to play many more games on the PC? From your description of your dad's hatred for video games, this seems like the ticket.

[Calvinatir]

lol...i was the one who wanted the 17"..so i was the one who had to pay for it...I have a very low interest loan going for this beast (1.99% works out to $3 interest a month as long as i dont default!). I had been a long term customer with Citibank and they offered it to me...so i took it. EVerytime i make a payment on it i thank the Chart House (restaurant that i work for...valet baby! gotta support the 17")!

[SillyKary]

You were trying to buy a PowerBOOK and your dad wants to "put together" a P4. So, your dad can make laptops?

Also, if he hates games so much, point out that you want a Mac because you're serious about work. If you wanted games you'd get a Wintel. Tell him how bad a gaming machine and how serious a workhorse the PB is.

[Squire]

Age has nothing to do with how a powerful computer you need. According to you, only people 50 and over deserve to get a G5, and people under 21 deserve to get an eMac.

Age has nothing to do with how powerful a computer you want. Notice that I bolded "need" above. People often need a computer for work...to get money...to support their family. And, because work can only begin at a certain legal age (What is it? Sixteen?), significantly fewer young people need a really powerful computer.

So, age is often related to how powerful a computer someone needs.

Back to the topic...

Yeah, as mentioned above, tell him you'll be less tempted to play games and more tempted to be productive. Oh, the joy of the Mac OS. Also, which P4 notebook is he talking about? Mac notebooks are competitively priced, in my opinion.

Squire

[virividox]

well your dad is paying for it so he has the final call :) simple as that

[JzzTrump22]

Your absolutly right virividox, my dad does have the final call. I know he can decide not to get it for me at any time. But he told me when he gets home from work today, we can place the order. So he does understand my purpose for getting such a powerfull and expensive machine.

I don't think i made myself clear before when i said my dad made a p4. He made a desktop, not a laptop. Another reason for why i told him i need this laptop for school. I don't want a huge desktop in my tiny dorm room. Also, not to mention the fact that I hate windows.

[AppleMatt]

It doesn't look as if you're going to but just incase...

Don't buy the RAM from Apple, goto Crucial.com or similar and save your dad some cash.

AppleMatt

[tristan]

Of course you don't need a 1.5ghz laptop for school. That's nuts, all you're going to do for school is word processing, excel, some browsing, etc. All of the rest of the stuff you want to do (games, garage band, etc) is what requires the power. Honestly, a used iBook with a RAM upgrade would be fine for you. You could probably get that for $1100.

Your dad knows that too, and he's torn between giving you want you want and making you happy, and teaching you a lesson about the value of a dollar. You'll probably get what you want, and ultimately be the poorer for it.

And of course your dad hates video games. He's going to spend $50k on your college educaiton over the next four years. He wants you studying, not playing games and wasting this opportunity. Leave your Xbox at home, and play games during the summer.

Jeez, kids today.

[JzzTrump22]

I am leaving my xbox at home. If i brought it with me, forget it, i would be on it non stop. I have less of a chance of playing games on a mac, because i won't have a lot of money to buy them with and i really won't have a whole lot of extra time. I might just get the 1.33 and do a few upgrades, it would save him $200. Then i could get it with the stock 256 then buy another 256 from crucial. Save more money that way. Well thanks for all your input and advice.

[CmdrLaForge]

I am leaving my xbox at home. If i brought it with me, forget it, i would be on it non stop. I have less of a chance of playing games on a mac, because i won't have a lot of money to buy them with and i really won't have a whole lot of extra time. I might just get the 1.33 and do a few upgrades, it would save him $200. Then i could get it with the stock 256 then buy another 256 from crucial. Save more money that way. Well thanks for all your input and advice.

Don't mind all the jealous people here. Normally people at MacRumors are nice and help each other. Even so it seems not to be true for everyone.

Think about what you really need and I guess the 1.33 MHz would really fit your needs. Have you seen or read some reviews already ? My guess is that the 1.33 is not really slower because of the L3 cache.

Upgrading the HD and Video makes sense because its not a lot of money and worth it.

[OldManJimbo]

The very fact that you're lying to your Dad makes you sound so childish and repugnant.

If your Dad builds you a p4, be happy. If you want a powerbook (or a g5) get a job. Quit expecting to be handed something just because you want it.

AMEN to the tenth power.
Sheesh - with attitudes like this kid, he should buy a PC and take lessons from the spoiled brats who run M$ Corp.

[niter]

I have an idea that might help out. Work/earn the difference in price for the upgrades you want. If you work all summer for the "extras" you want you will not only get them, but there will most likely be a student sale going on when you do order at the end of the summer (last year they knocked $200 off an iPod with a laptop order). This makes Dad happy because he can still gift you the computer at HIS chosen price and it makes you happy because you get what you want.

As for the whole selfish child bit, I will admit, your post made me cringe a bit when I first read it. HOWEVER, I know likewise, that when I do have kids and when they go off to college I will want to give them nice computers/what ever the technology is at the time (considering I just in graduate school right now). Sure, when I went to school, Dad could not afford a computer (I was computerless for months untill I earned one), could not afford nice stuff for my dorm room, and could not afford college period. I arrived sans computer, in goodwill sweaters, carrying hefty student loans on my back. So be it. Do I want my kids to have the same? NO! Do I still hope that I can give them nice things and still have them respect a buck? Sure.

Still, this whole issue is not worth getting everyone's panties in a bunch. Yes, the first poster is very fortunate to be getting a computer. He is very fortunate to be getting a Mac. But nobody here knows him and knows what else his parents might have denied him (I had a friend who went to school with a laptop but her parents told her she would never get a car bought by them). Its not like he is saying, after Dad and I went to the apple store and picked me up a G5 and flat pannel 23" monitor to go with my iMac at home I was pissed he did not get me that Powerbook 17" because it is better than my iBook G4. And I'm really pissed he refused to get me a new iPod just for my BMW.

[SpaceMagic]

Age has nothing to do with how a powerful computer you need. According to you, only people 50 and over deserve to get a G5, and people under 21 deserve to get an eMac.

Hmm that is so wrong.

I got this G5 for my 17th Birthday!

I'd buy one for a two year old if i was rich :p

[maxvamp]

...I am surprised at the stand I am about to take.

I am a parent of a soon to be in college teen, so I can appreciate the point of view of both sides of the fence, vocalized on this list.

I want to offer everyone a couple of things to think about...

1. This powerbook seems to be a bit much on power now, but how will it rank in 4 years when he graduates? Will it still be overpowered? If Dad got him a bottom of the barrel iBook, or a P4, will it be usable in 4 years? Remember, Longhorn will **need** a 4-6 GHz proc and 2 GB of memory.

I guess the question is... How many Px Machines will dad buy before son graduates? There is a reason why even secretaries at large companies get real meaty machines when they are replaced. It is due to the fact that machines are expected to last several years, and maintain usability during that time.


2. ( And maybe the real reason... ) I do not believe in giving my children everything they want. I am a firm believer in teaching them to work for their toys, and other things. It has worked so far, and my children seem to actually be a bit happier knowing that they worked for what they have. On the other hand, I have no problems investing in their education, as I know that this is something that has a great return.

This laptop is a graduation gift / college tool. I do not see it as a toy in any way. If the boy was working at burger King and happy to have his career end there... Well, that is a whole other story.

I hope that this adds something to this conversation. Good luck.

Max.

[SpaceMagic]

Of course you don't need a 1.5ghz laptop for school. That's nuts, all you're going to do for school is word processing, excel, some browsing, etc. All of the rest of the stuff you want to do (games, garage band, etc) is what requires the power. Honestly, a used iBook with a RAM upgrade would be fine for you. You could probably get that for $1100.

Your dad knows that too, and he's torn between giving you want you want and making you happy, and teaching you a lesson about the value of a dollar. You'll probably get what you want, and ultimately be the poorer for it.

And of course your dad hates video games. He's going to spend $50k on your college educaiton over the next four years. He wants you studying, not playing games and wasting this opportunity. Leave your Xbox at home, and play games during the summer.

Jeez, kids today.

Couldn't agree MORE with this one! Honestly, I actually needed this G5 for my hobby/semi job (webdesigning and Welian Mac (link in signiture). A website can be done on a G3, but I chose the G5 because I do a lot of photoshop work for images which go on sites I design for people, that and a new section of WelianMac (coming soon ... ). I also do play games, and I am allowed :p, I do word process, etc, which all could be done amazingly on a G3 or G4 (even better!). However, what swung it for me was the intensive stuff I do on this computer.

I also got a nice 17" Sharp LCD with digital inputs! It was pricey, and it would seem I was screwing my parents out of every penny, just because it was my birthday! But... it is so good! Amazing quality, big, bright, sharp, quick refresh, perfect for DVDs and games! Excessive? Maybe.

Oh, and btw... i paid for it! every penny :p so I'm allowed it.

If truth be told, you only really want the 1.5 because its the fastest thing out, and good graphics card, and your compromising (fooling yourself) into thinking that removing the SuperDrive is an honest thing. This is not a reason to buy a computer! Get an iBook!

[musicpyrite]

Age has nothing to do with how powerful a computer you want. Notice that I bolded "need" above. People often need a computer for work...to get money...to support their family. And, because work can only begin at a certain legal age (What is it? Sixteen?), significantly fewer young people need a really powerful computer.

So, age is often related to how powerful a computer someone needs.


Not necessarily, do you think there are any graphic arts people in college? Thoes are the kind of people who need power.

But I agree that significantly fewer young people need a suped-up computer for work. (not games) But there are some young people who need it.

I don't know if you meant that you don't need a powerful computer to do normal student stuff, (email, chat, music, word processing) but you could get by with a G3 iMac.

[JzzTrump22]

I can't believe how many posts i got on this topic.

I offered to put like $500 into the laptop, but my dad refused. He wants each and every dollar to come from his pocket. He wants it that way because i deserve it. I worked by can off all through high school and now he is giving me a reward. I'm not getting a car for college. I'm not trying to seem like a little spoiled brat. Because i'm not. I don't understand why people are getting so worked up because my father wants to do something nice for me. I wish he would let me pay for some of it, but he doesn't want me to. He wants my money to go towards paying for school supplies like books and other crap that i need for school.

[musicpyrite]

Hmm that is so wrong.

I got this G5 for my 17th Birthday!

I'd buy one for a two year old if i was rich :p

I was being sarcastic. ;)

Damn, a G5 for your 17th birthday? I'll be luckey to get $200 on my birthday. :(

[wide]

I hate when people try to convince others that they are wrong and childish and immature. If you can't keep your mouths shut and let JzzTrump22 try to get his PowerBook for high school graduation, then you yourselves are immature--why insult him? What do you get out of calling him "childish and repugnant"? His father agreed to go down to the Apple Store and purchase a computer, and JzzTrump22 probably could have gotten away with the stock computer at $2299. With the upgrades (and downgrade to the Combo Drive), the computer turns out to be less than it was at the stock price.

So what if it costs $2200? Just because you weren't given a computer or present like that when you graduated high school does not mean he shouldn't. That is not a spoiled present either--he plans on using it for 6 years. That comes out to be about a dollar a day. Is that really to much to ask?

I personally think that a computer should not necessarily be a graduation present (unless it is ridiculously overpriced). It should be thought of as a surcharge for attending college--to ensure that he will enjoy working.

Is it really that big of a crime to send your child out to college with a computer they want and configured? To all the people who have been insulting JzzTrump22: why? You gain nothing out of it, and I doubt all of your insults have made him change his mind at all--he will get his PowerBook and will be happy with it. If you think he is being spoiled, you are most likely jealous. If you think he is being greedy--he isn't. His computer is cheaper than the stock 1.5 GHz. You can't argue that. He is trying to save his dad from wasting money on a SuperDrive that he will never use.

[musicpyrite]

I can't believe how many posts i got on this topic.

I offered to put like $500 into the laptop, but my dad refused. He wants each and every dollar to come from his pocket. He wants it that way because i deserve it. I worked by can off all through high school and now he is giving me a reward. I'm not getting a car for college. I'm not trying to seem like a little spoiled brat. Because i'm not. I don't understand why people are getting so worked up because my father wants to do something nice for me. I wish he would let me pay for some of it, but he doesn't want me to. He wants my money to go towards paying for school supplies like books and other crap that i need for school.

Totally agree. Serously people, quit being so close minded, and jelous.

His father wants to do something nice for him. Get the ******* over it!

You know what, I'm gonna start a thread about how my father bought me an ice cream cone, and see how many people b*tch and moan about that.

JzzTrump22, congrads on the PowerBook, but remember, money goes real fast in college. Save as much as you can. :)

[netytan]

Im amazed at the comments by some of the older users here, face it already! just because you didn't have these things when you were younger doesn't mean we shouldn't. Age and computer power? Anyone got a chart where these two factors link or are we just talking **** here?

Anyway before anyone paints me with the same brush, i saved for three years and have just decided to get te 12" IBook. FYI Kids today do know the value of a dollar; of course there are exceptions! We just have more than you did at our age ;).

Things today are much more complicated than when you where kids, and getting more so, no one ever mentions that!

Also worth noting that to want is "human" nature, and i for one am not ashamed of my desire for things; and there is a very fine line between "need" and "want" anyway, if you think about it, nearly everyone that has a PowerBook right now could get by with the 800Ghz IBook.

Time to get with the times guys :rolleyes:. Enjoy the PowerBook dude and good luck with college!

Later,

Mark.

[MrSugar]

I have to say I am pretty blown away at this thread also. People seem to jump to quick conclusions. Is he lucky to be getting a powerbook for graduation, you bet. Is it an overpowered machine, no! The thought of getting an Ibook is crazy, esspecially if he really plans on utilizing it with his music major as much as he says. The powerbook is a wonderful tool, and has a long life span. It is college and we arne't talking about some side notebook here, this is going to be his "desktop replacement", it needs to be fast and responsive.

Congrats on graduating, I hope you enjoy your powerbook, they are expensive but nice. Perhaps you can be the one to purchase apple care and software for it. This might help to equal out some of the cost.

[netytan]

congrats on graduating, I hope you enjoy your powerbook, they are expensive but nice. Perhaps you can be the one to purchase apple care and software for it. This might help to equal out some of the cost.

Funny thing is that often the software will set you back more than the machine i.e. as mentioned im getting an Ibook (BTO and upgreaded HD) for £725 and want to get Adobe CS for it at some point, thats like £1,115. Then add the price of Studio MX to that and its more than double the cost of the upgraded Ibook lol.

Freakin,

Mark.

[Haouka]

Congrats for your graduation, it's all what matters in the end. And lucky you for the present ... though I cant complain, I used to have my dad's compaq portable back in '95 and then IBM portable. I have to say it was very usefull (and pretty uncommon by then). He didnt offered it to me, he just wasnt interested in using it for anything else than Solitaire and at this game, university wins all the time.

... However ...

I'm now 30, earning good money and I bought my first mac 6 months ago (full option iMac 17) for +/- 2500 EUR as a gift to celebrate the birth of my first son (second is on its way ... I will allow myself an iBook this time).

I have been really shocked when I went to the store, described what I wanted and the sales guy asked if I was a student ... no way I could have ever spend so much money on a computer when I was a student (without my father I would simply have gone to the computer room). With that kind of money I would have bought a car, gone on holidays around the world, ...

[netytan]

Congrats on the kids mate :D. The Ibook is amazing value for money, but id go with the 12" if i was you.

[Haouka]

Congrats on the kids mate :D. The Ibook is amazing value for money, but id go with the 12" if i was you.

I know but I try not to think about it. I can hardly justify the iBook as we already have the iMac + my wife and I both have a Dell laptop from work (but I hate it so much !!!)

By the way, my wife is probably the best proof it is so easy to switch: she doesnt care about computers at all, doesnt know so much about them but she's so happy with the iMac (iPhoto with all the pictures from our son and iTunes with all are CD's are terrific sellers) and never has any issue with it.

[nospleen]

I say enjoy the powerbook. If you dad wants to get you one, then that is his choice. Just remember that when everyone else is goofing around and going out partying. Study hard and show your dad how responsible you are. Never take anything he does for granted, show him you truly appreciate it. I assume you must have shown him something for him to buy you such a bad a$$ laptop. :D

[Applexilef]

I say show this thread to your dad, see what happens :D

[JzzTrump22]

Thanks for all the help and support guys. Mabey i will show him this thread. He kows it's what i truly want and will need. So he really doesn't have a problem buying it for me. Plus when i come home for the summer, he'll be using it more than me. He's into recording too. He's mabey a little hesitant because he doesn't know mac, he's a pc guy. When he see's how mucha a mac can do compared to a pc, he'll probably look into buying a g5. That would be awsome if i converted my whole family to mac.

[SwitchingSoon]

Couldn't agree MORE with this one! Honestly, I actually needed this G5 for my hobby/semi job (webdesigning and Welian Mac (link in signiture). A website can be done on a G3, but I chose the G5 because I do a lot of photoshop work for images which go on sites I design for people, that and a new section of WelianMac (coming soon ... ). I also do play games, and I am allowed :p, I do word process, etc, which all could be done amazingly on a G3 or G4 (even better!). However, what swung it for me was the intensive stuff I do on this computer.

Oh, and btw... i paid for it! every penny :p so i'm allowed it.

If truth be told, you only really want the 1.5 because its the fastest thing out, and good graphics card, and your compromising (fooling yourself) into thinking that removing the SuperDrive is an honest thing. This is not a reason to buy a computer! Get an iBook!

You're the same kid who said you got your G5 for your birthday....and you also said you paid for it. what's with the discrepancies?

[aphexist]

You're the same kid who said you got your G5 for your birthday....and you also said you paid for it. what's with the discrepancies?

Oh! You got Mac served!

I think the majority of people who spend there time on forums like this suffer from lusting after Apple computers, whether it be a Powerbook, G5, iBook, or whatever. I know I fall victim to this every few years.

If an adolescent Mac user comes from a wealthy family, I'm sure that person, after some whining and wheedling would have no great challenge convincing their parents that they absolutely need the latest and greatest technology.

Throught my four years of college, I observed an engineering student in my class and major that constantly showed up in class flaunting the latest trick Mac gear. He had a new Powerbook every year, and he would sit in the front of the class and gingerly remove it from the case during the first few weeks of class. I would watch him "work" on the laptop during class, and he would simply change settings or doodle something, occasionally browse the web. By the end of the semester he would be much more careless with the machine or not bring it to class at all. In my final semester, he slumped into the bookstore while I happened to be looking a the Apple displays. The computer salesman knew him on sight, and went to him. He was buying a new computer, asking about the newest Powerbook revision. I could tell that he couldn't stand the fact that there was something better out there that he didn't have. He said, "When I bought this [pointing at his scratched TiBook], I was the mac daddy. I just want to be the mac daddy again," trailing off pitifully. He actually said that. I waited around to watch him charge a new Powerbook to Accounts Receivable (aka "Parents are Paying").

Some people do it with cars, or stereo equipment, or even women. I felt a deep disdain and sneering disgust for this man who seemed to be weighing his worth in the fleeting pursuit of the latest computer hardware. Eww.

[SwitchingSoon]

He's a poser!!!! a poser i say!

[jimjiminyjim]

If you want to do recording, you're going to need the extra cash for your audio equipment. If you already have mics, speakers, amps, and a mixer, great - you'll still want software and hardware that can work on your computer.

For the price of your upgraded 15", you can get an eMac and quite a bit of music equipment. It's a clunker, but it can be carried around on occasion. I do it myself.

[goodwill]

So, age is often related to how powerful a computer someone needs.

Back to the topic...

Also, which P4 notebook is he talking about?


I am going to have to agree with musicpyrite on this one. I think age is irrelevant. I think its the power of the mind that beckons the strength and capacity of a great computer. Intelligence is blind to the physical pretentions you've stated.

As far as the P4, I do believe a young and old "aged" person can safely say that means Pentium 4.

What an antagonistic hearted selection of a few individuals we have today wouldn't you say folks? The kid wanted some advice, not bitterness and close minded-ness about what YOU consider to be always RIGHT about. So yes, his scenario is unfortunate from both ends of the stick, but if you want something bad enough in life, you will find a way to make it happen.

[rueyeet]

I'm going to be a music major in college, so this is an ideal computer for me.There's your primary reason, right there. Most modern music is made on the Mac, and some music schools even require a Mac. A P4, home-built or otherwise, would be second-class in that industry. If you're going into creative fields like music or graphic design, Macs dominate...it's pretty much the "industry standard" in those fields.

Also, music is a fairly demanding application, requiring a lot of processing power and LOTS of hard drive space. GarageBand is known to require a pretty good system to run smoothly, and it's at the LOWEST end of music software. OS X itself is also happiest with a lot of memory. Your major provides you reason enough to trick out this machine.

Furthermore, if this computer has to help you make music for the next 6 years (whatever else you may want to try to do with it) then it will pay to make the investment now in better specs, so you won't be stuck replacing it by the time you graduate. A P4 won't fare so well.

Last but definitely not least, a current P4 of any description will not be sufficient to run the next version of Windows, according to preliminary expectations for Longhorn's system requirements. You'll either have to upgrade, or stay with XP as long as you keep your P4.

All of these are good, solid reasons you can give your dad.

I'll readily admit that, in spite of my definite pride in having bought my computers, cars, and my house without any help from my parents, I'm a wee bit jealous whenever I hear stories like this. But then I consider how lucky I was to have my college paid for, and the jealousy fades. Our parents do for us whatever they think they can, and should, and only your own parents can decide what they can and should do for you.

Make it up to us, JzzTrump22: Get out there and make some truly kick-ass music....with your Mac! :D

[JzzTrump22]

Thanks for all the help guys. My dad was very suprised when he read this thread. He decided this mac would be the best choice for me so we ordered it a few minutes ago. Thanks for all the help.

[cr2sh]

There's your primary reason, right there. Most modern music is made on the Mac, and some music schools even require a Mac. A P4, home-built or otherwise, would be second-class in that industry. If you're going into creative fields like music or graphic design, Macs dominate...it's pretty much the "industry standard" in those fields.

Look at what his post says.. it says nothing about "industry standards" it talks about how he wanted a powerbook to play games on (but his Dad can't know that) and he's a music major so he needs the power for GarageBand.

At what point did garageband become an industry standard? They make Pro Tools for the pc, and he's fooling himself by thinking that a g4 powerbook will still be blazingly fast in 4 years - it won't. In fact by mid-next year the laptop standard will switch quickly to 64-bit processing, pro-tools will take full advantage, he'll be accepted into his major and he'll have to buy a NEW machine to do it.

The first year of college is all pre-reqs anyways... Does he really need a powerbook for freshmen comp? The req'd history series? French?

No he doesn't. This is not the right time for him to be dropping $3k on a computer. His Dad should see that, I can see it in his post and I know it from my knowledge of college and apple.

I could ****ing careless if this kid gets his way (which I'm quite sure will happen), but to start a thread all pouty and childish and expect sympathy when most of us can see through his failed 17-year-old-logic.. no way. If you start a thread to complain about how your Dad is second guessing this major investment.. be prepared for people to take his side.

Why buy one now? We all know this is not the optimal time to invest in something so huge.. We all know g5 powerbooks are coming. What machine are you using now? Why do you HAVE to get this powerbook for graduation? Christ, college doesn’t even start till September/October, who knows what’ll happen between now and then. There are so many flaws here.. why would anyone take his side?

[jsw]

Thanks for all the help guys. My dad was very suprised when he read this thread. He decided this mac would be the best choice for me so we ordered it a few minutes ago. Thanks for all the help.

Hey, when all is said and done, you have a new Mac, and that's never a bad thing. Congratulations!

[musicpyrite]

Thanks for all the help guys. My dad was very suprised when he read this thread. He decided this mac would be the best choice for me so we ordered it a few minutes ago. Thanks for all the help.

Muahahah, chalk another up to Steve and Apple, only 95% of the world left. :rolleyes:

So the PowerBook you bought, did you get it with the original specs like you said? 128 VRAM, 5400 RPM drive, ect?

[JzzTrump22]

Ok cr2sh, you seem to have some severe problems. What? Daddy didn't love you? I don't know why you keep trying to put me down. You make some good points though. I know this particular laptop will be behind industry standards in a few years. But that doesn't mean i won't use it anymore. Hell, i'm still on a 450 mhz P3, so i'm used to being "behind". I've never owned a brand new computer out of the box. I've always built them, so has my dad. This is my first laptop and my first mac. I would appreciate it if you keep your stupid comments to yourself. I don't need to read about some moron like you calling me some stupid kid who's childish. I think most people in here take my side when i say your the one acting like the child. It seems like your jealous of me because i'm getting something you didn't get when you were in the same position. I don't know what your past story is so i'm not going to jump to conclusions, unlike yourself who jumped right in and called me some stupid little kid that doesn't know anything. Oh and BTW, the g5's won't be out for a while so this is the perfect time to buy the g4 PB. It's probably not going to get another revision, so it's at it's "maturest" level.

[JzzTrump22]

musicpyrite, i got the 1.5 with the upgraded vram, upgraded hd, and downgraded to the combo drive.

[cr2sh]

Ok cr2sh, you seem to have some severe problems. What? Daddy didn't love you? I don't know why you keep trying to put me down. You make some good points though. I know this particular laptop will be behind industry standards in a few years. But that doesn't mean i won't use it anymore. Hell, i'm still on a 450 mhz P3, so i'm used to being "behind". I've never owned a brand new computer out of the box. I've always built them, so has my dad. This is my first laptop and my first mac. I would appreciate it if you keep your stupid comments to yourself. I don't need to read about some moron like you calling me some stupid kid who's childish. I think most people in here take my side when i say your the one acting like the child. It seems like your jealous of me because i'm getting something you didn't get when you were in the same position. I don't know what your past story is so i'm not going to jump to conclusions, unlike yourself who jumped right in and called me some stupid little kid that doesn't know anything. Oh and BTW, the g5's won't be out for a while so this is the perfect time to buy the g4 PB. It's probably not going to get another revision, so it's at it's "maturest" level.

I was simply pointing out that your reasoning is flawed. Children often present arguments in such a failing way. I apoligize if you took personal offense to it.

BTW, in those last two sentences of yours, you're actually arguing against yourself... incase you didn't know.

[JzzTrump22]

How am i arguing against myself? I stated the PB g4 is probably not going to get another revision and the g5's won't be out for some time. Now is the perfect time to buy, according to these forums. So i bought it. How am i agruing against myself?

[iJon]

alright this is getting out of hand. first off lets go back to his orignial question. he wasnt here to get told to shut up and accept what his dad gives him, he asked for advice on how to convince his dad otherwise. notice how he said money isn't an issue, so lets not make it an issue.

what you need to do is just show your dad that any one who is serious in the music business has a mac. as for the video card upgrade, why not, its only 50 more dollars. all you need to do is show how you can do more thigns with your mac as opposed to the pc. im sure if you make a good argument with your dad he will purchase your computer. he may just want to see you justify everything you need for your own benefit.

iJon

[JzzTrump22]

I justified why i'm getting it and what it will be used for. He knows macs are a lot better for music and video. I really don't even know why he was curious as to why i need this laptop in the first place. He knows the reasons. Well in the end he was sold and purchased it for me. It should get here no later then tuesday (6/29).

[iJon]

I justified why i'm getting it and what it will be used for. He knows macs are a lot better for music and video. I really don't even know why he was curious as to why i need this laptop in the first place. He knows the reasons. Well in the end he was sold and purchased it for me. It should get here no later then tuesday (6/29).
congrats on your purchase. should serve you quite well in school.

iJon

[Squire]

First of all, congratulations on completing your studies and making the switch. I'm sure you'll enjoy your new machine.

Secondly, I just want to make some comments on ideas presented by others here.

<Warning: A fairly lengthy rant follows.>

It seems that a serious number of people on this board are college students or high school students about to enter college. When I discoverd that it kind of dumbfounded me. A lot of those students are on their third powerbook rev or iBook and/or talking about how they are about to get a G5 "for university." Whether they're getting them from parents or their own savings seems to be about even. I know it's been a long time since I have been in college, and that a computer is a necessary tool for education, (probably the most important one, not counting a brain). A lot of these students seem not to be design or video students either. For a 19 year old this seems like an awfully expensive habit.

For the record I hardly came from a deprived home, and my job treats me well, but it's kind of funny that I'm stressing out over dropping the cash and justifying the need (or just plain want) for this stuff, replacing my poor old 4-year-old Pismo (and I actually edit video, though not as a day job) when there are all of these hi school/college students on their third powerbook getting g5s. I think it actually helps me justify it more :rolleyes: I use this on my parents because they think I'm cra$y.

I have no grudge against 'em, nor do I think there's anything wrong with it, I just think it's interesting to hear someone trying to decide whether to get the 2 or the 2.5 G5 to replace their powerbook and find out they're 17.

p.s. Just ask your dad for the cash so you can choose what you want. Tell him it will help teach you how to spend money more wisely. :cool: Also write up a list of the features it has that are advantageous and how you will use them, back it up with urls from music sites, etc. It will help to see it in writing (looks more factual) and sometimes they like to see that you put some effort into this decision rather than just a case of the gimmees.

Above we have a well-written post that points out, for the most part, the seemingly growing trend of young people buying professional computer systems. It's not a shot at anyone; it's a statement of the changing times and furrina's perspective.

"I have no grudge against 'em, nor do I think there's anything wrong with it, I just think it's interesting to hear someone trying to decide whether to get the 2 or the 2.5 G5 to replace their powerbook and find out they're 17."

Age has nothing to do with how a powerful computer you need. According to you, only people 50 and over deserve to get a G5, and people under 21 deserve to get an eMac.

I really don't see how you came to that conclusion based on furrina's comments. He/She said it (this trend) was interesting. My reply below...

Age has nothing to do with how powerful a computer you want. Notice that I bolded "need" above. People often need a computer for work...to get money...to support their family. And, because work can only begin at a certain legal age (What is it? Sixteen?), significantly fewer young people need a really powerful computer.

So, age is often related to how powerful a computer someone needs.


Not necessarily, do you think there are any graphic arts people in college? Thoes are the kind of people who need power.

But I agree that significantly fewer young people need a suped-up computer for work. (not games) But there are some young people who need it.

I don't know if you meant that you don't need a powerful computer to do normal student stuff, (email, chat, music, word processing) but you could get by with a G3 iMac.

You basically state that you disagree with me and then go on to agree. I don't get it. My reasoning goes like this: a child does not need a top-of-the-line computer. In fact, a child doesn't need a computer period. As people get older, they are more able to justify the need for a computer. This ability to justify need reaches its climax when improved performance leads to improved productivity, leading, in turn, to the potential for more income. Before you reach that set of circumstances, a powerful computer can easily be perceived as a toy, a luxury. Please, people, read before you type your disagreement. I wrote:

So, age is often related to how powerful a computer someone needs.


I am going to have to agree with musicpyrite on this one. I think age is irrelevant. I think its the power of the mind that beckons the strength and capacity of a great computer. Intelligence is blind to the physical pretentions you've stated.

Very eloquent and all, but I think you should look up the meaning of the word need.

Sorry for the rant but I hate it when people either misinterpret my posts.

Squire

[jsw]

I think age is irrelevant. I think its the power of the mind that beckons the strength and capacity of a great computer. Intelligence is blind to the physical pretentions you've stated.


Hmmm. Poetic or not, I think it's an "interesting" argument that more "powerful" minds need great computers. Arguably, the more powerful the mind, the less powerful the computer need be, if it's needed at all. The computer serves to help the mind to visualize. The more powerful the mind, the less help it needs. I don't think Stephen Hawking spends a lot of time with powerful computers (aside from whatever is needed to help him communicate). Gary Kasparov doesn't seem to need them. Einstein and Newton did OK without them. Ray Charles seemed to play without them. And so on.

Powerful computers better simulate reality for the purposes of playing games, creating electronic music, simulating structures, etc. They augment the mind. However, they are just a tool, and the power of a person's computer or need for one - isn't necessarily directly proportional to the capability of their intellect.

And, BTW, what were the "physical pretensions"?

Anyway, JzzTrump22, congrats again. You're going to enjoy it!

[JzzTrump22]

Thanks!!!:D You know I will:cool:

[Squire]

Hmmm. Poetic or not, I think it's an "interesting" argument that more "powerful" minds need great computers. Arguably, the more powerful the mind, the less powerful the computer need be, if it's needed at all. The computer serves to help the mind to visualize. The more powerful the mind, the less help it needs. I don't think Stephen Hawking spends a lot of time with powerful computers (aside from whatever is needed to help him communicate). Gary Kasparov doesn't seem to need them. Einstein and Newton did OK without them. Ray Charles seemed to play without them. And so on.

Powerful computers better simulate reality for the purposes of playing games, creating electronic music, simulating structures, etc. They augment the mind. However, they are just a tool, and the power of a person's computer or need for one - isn't necessarily directly proportional to the capability of their intellect.

And, BTW, what were the "physical pretensions"?

Anyway, JzzTrump22, congrats again. You're going to enjoy it!

Nice points, jsw.

Thanks!!!:D You know I will:cool:

I'm not necessarily jealous, just envious. ;) I'm looking forward to purchasing a nice PB some time in the next 6 months.

Squire

[furrina]

he was just curious as to why i needed such a powerfull machine. The main reason is recording. Me and my friends are trying to start a mini jazz band and we are going to need something with some power. Not a piece of junnk that will crap out on us.

A couple of things.

Re the quote above: This is what's called an "interest." If I were a parent I'd be happy if my kid had some, keeps them off the streets. But seriously, this person is interested in a tool, not a toy, and "priveleged" or not, it's hard to begrudge a young person who knows what they want and how they're going to use it. How many people out there have that legitimate a goal for all the trick gadgets?

He/she looks like a smart kid with a rational parent, which bodes well for the future.
Glad to see this one ended well. More music for all of us!

P.S. Thanks, Squire, for providing the cliff notes for those who need 'em. ;)

[Riot_Mac]

I was so excited because my dad was taking me to the mac store to buy my first mac, a powerbook for graduation. So when i get to the store, i told the guy i wanted the 15" 1.5 with upgraded vram, upgraded hd, and to downgrade to the combo drive. The the worst sentence i ever heard came out of his mouth... "we can't cusomize like that in the store, if you want that you have to order online." So i go home and am getting ready to order online and then my dad starts to question me weather i really need this particular laptop and what i'm using it for that i need so much power. I told him garage band and photoshop and stuff like that which is true, but it's also for gaming. He hates video games and i love them. I can't live without them. He gets so pissed everytime he see's me in front of my xbox. So he can't know that. I know future games are going to require specs that i mentioned above. And this thing is going to last me a good 6 years or so. I'm going to be a music major in college, so this is an ideal computer for me. I tried explaining to him that it's a very good investment, it's well worth it. You get a lot for your money. Plus i can get the free printer right now with my student discount. Then he says "i put a p4 together for under 500, why can't you do that instead?" I really felt like killing myself at that point. Any body have some advice.... or comfort? :(

my parents bought me the dual 1.42 last year for graduation. how nice of them! to bad that other dudes parents didnt buy him a computer when he graduated... probably becuase he is an a$$.

[QCassidy352]

Of course you don't need a 1.5ghz laptop for school. That's nuts, all you're going to do for school is word processing, excel, some browsing, etc. All of the rest of the stuff you want to do (games, garage band, etc) is what requires the power. Honestly, a used iBook with a RAM upgrade would be fine for you. You could probably get that for $1100.

...
And of course your dad hates video games. He's going to spend $50k on your college educaiton over the next four years. He wants you studying, not playing games and wasting this opportunity. Leave your Xbox at home, and play games during the summer.

Jeez, kids today.

$50k? I hope you don't mean total. Try $40k... per year. :eek:

Second, you may notice that in his original post he said he will be using this computer for 6 years or so. Think back to the computer you had 6 years ago (beige G3?) - it probably seemed like a powerful machine at the time, no? Able to run everything? Maybe more than you needed, if you're not a graphics/video/audio pro? Well today, that computer sells for about $50 and can't run a damn thing that's currently being released, including the mac OS. That PB may seem excessive now, but in six years it probably won't be able to run the current OS; in three years it will seem slow and will be missing many new features.

When I started college (4 years ago) I was deciding between an imac DV 400 mhz and a G4 tower (350-400 mhz?). I went for the imac because the G4 was total overkill - how could I need that for my studies? :rolleyes: Do you know anyone who considers a 400 mhz G4 overkill today? (that imac, btw, can't even support quartz extreme, a part of the OS - forget about any modern programs)

I don't understand the venom towards the original poster here. He wanted, and thought he was getting, a nice new mac in the apple store that day, and he couldn't get it. Not the worst tragedy in the world, but annoying. That was the point of the story, and if it were anyone but a kid, you all would have nothing but sympathy. Since when is "get a cheaper PC, because you don't really need a mac" the sentiment on these boards?

[CmdrLaForge]

Thanks for all the help guys. My dad was very suprised when he read this thread. He decided this mac would be the best choice for me so we ordered it a few minutes ago. Thanks for all the help.

Congrats. Good to hear you ordered it. But if you are interested in video as well why have you downgraded the superdrive ? You know that you cannot use iDVD with an external superdrive ? Just something to think about.

[JzzTrump22]

I don't have any reason to have a dvd burner. I don't think i will ever use it. It's nice to say that it's there, but why waste my father's money? I saved him $180 by downgrading. It doesn't bother me that i don't have it because i don't need it.

[rt_brained]

I really felt like killing myself at that point. Any body have some advice.... or comfort? :(
Well, shooting yourself in the head would be quick, but messy. Pills, if you get the right kind, might be a slow way to go, but peaceful.

[JzzTrump22]

lol

[musicpyrite]

Congrats. Good to hear you ordered it. But if you are interested in video as well why have you downgraded the superdrive ? You know that you cannot use iDVD with an external superdrive ? Just something to think about.

There's a hack, that allows iDVD to be ued with an external DVD burner, google around an see if you can find it.

[Squire]

There's a hack, that allows iDVD to be ued with an external DVD burner, google around an see if you can find it.

Yeah, you're absolutely right. Here it is, just in case you decide to go external later:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=65437

To be honest, I think you were right about going for the combo drive. I rarely use my superdrive and, with the low prices of external hard drives, making DVD backups has lost a bit of its appeal.

Squire

[irmongoose]

I think some people are forgetting how advanced the personal computer has become over the past years. Just because it is a teenager sitting behind the computer does not mean he/she cannot do same or better work than an adult. Macs, especially, have made such "professional" tasks such as video-editing and graphics really available to the keen-to-learn teenager.

I have been editing video ever since iMovie first came out, and moved on to Final Cut when version 2 came out. And the skills I acquired from these past years has made filmmaking both my hobby and a possible career for me. And none of this would have been possible if my parents had not supported me by buying me an iMac G4. My previous computer would just have not cut it. And definitely not a PC, which I would hate using and would not be as easy to use as the Mac. By purchasing an iMac for me, just with that one purchase (albeit a huge one), my parents have secured my career choice. I am the ONLY one in my grade who knows what he will be doing in college and most probably after that. Of course, there are all the chances that I might screw up, or things might not work out, but that is a risk we must take as a family, both me risking my career and my parents risking their efforts.

And the truth is, my experience has helped me feel comfortable in my daily life, as I do not have to worry about what I will be doing in the future. I don't have to linger about hopelessly. I can move on in a straight path for the next two years until I graduate. And that just might let me have a lead over the other guys who don't know what they're doing, as I know exactly what I have to do.

The most important thing, though, is the support and love I have received from my parents throughout the years. I feel they have brought me up as a responsible, mature 15 year-old, and I will forever be in their debt. And, thus, I will give my best to become someone they can be proud of.



irmongoose

[zerosnipe]

i am a junior and i am on like my 6th mac or somthing like that i been using them since i was 3. you saying kids dont need power but ps and fcp and Dreamweaver and After Effects. while in my idle time i do seti. heck it would drive me nutz to sit at my old g4/450 and do all my stuff. i might only be a junior in high school but i do some realy processor intensive stuff. i have a g4(fw800) 1.42ghz with 1.5 gigs of ram and nvida geforce ti. also i have a 12" pb