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EssentialParado
Aug 14, 2009, 07:36 AM
I need to upgrade my meager 80gb into at least 250gb – does such a size drive exist yet? Does anyone know?



GoCubsGo
Aug 14, 2009, 07:47 AM
I believe they do have a 250 GB Samsung 1.8".
I know they have up to 160 GB for certain.

Edit: Look what I found (http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/25/toshibas-record-breaking-1-8-inch-250gb-sata-disk-for-your-next/). :)

jdechko
Aug 14, 2009, 11:26 AM
That's an 8mm drive with a micro-SATA connector. The Air uses a 5mm drive with a LIF (rev B,C)/ZIF (rev A) connector. Also, with an 80GB drive, you'd be upgrading from a Rev A, which uses a PATA drive, not a SATA drive. The 240GB drive linked to in the engadget story is PATA, but it's 8mm.

You need a single-platter (5mm), PATA-ZIF drive.

EssentialParado
Aug 14, 2009, 01:38 PM
That's an 8mm drive with a micro-SATA connector. The Air uses a 5mm drive with a LIF (rev B,C)/ZIF (rev A) connector. Also, with an 80GB drive, you'd be upgrading from a Rev A, which uses a PATA drive, not a SATA drive. The 240GB drive linked to in the engadget story is PATA, but it's 8mm.

You need a single-platter (5mm), PATA-ZIF drive.

uhhh…………


I have no idea what you just said, but do you know the largest drive for the Air? Anything close to 250gb? Any plans? Anything? Shall I stick with 80gb forever?

Hellhammer
Aug 14, 2009, 01:44 PM
uhhh…………


I have no idea what you just said, but do you know the largest drive for the Air? Anything close to 250gb? Any plans? Anything? Shall I stick with 80gb forever?

He means that the 250GB drive has wrong connector and is physically too big. Those HDs are quite hard to find from vendors so wait if someone has found something

jdechko
Aug 14, 2009, 02:25 PM
What Hellhammer said. The current largest drive you can find for your MacBook Air is the one you already have installed.

stoconnell
Aug 14, 2009, 02:38 PM
I need to upgrade my meager 80gb into at least 250gb – does such a size drive exist yet? Does anyone know?

Take a look at this forum thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=736377). It appears there is a 128G SSD that fits the Rev A MacBook Airs.

designgeek
Aug 14, 2009, 02:44 PM
I believe they do have a 250 GB Samsung 1.8".
I know they have up to 160 GB for certain.

Edit: Look what I found (http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/25/toshibas-record-breaking-1-8-inch-250gb-sata-disk-for-your-next/). :)

Next MBA maybe??? SATA too, that's awesome, I remember looking and all I could find was a 160 PATA-ZIF. Maybe tear apart one of the big iPod classics, they were 160s.

BlizzardBomb
Aug 14, 2009, 03:16 PM
Next MBA maybe??? SATA too, that's awesome, I remember looking and all I could find was a 160 PATA-ZIF. Maybe tear apart one of the big iPod classics, they were 160s.

It's too thick. Apple won't go backwards and add a thicker, heavier hard drive. Very few companies are spending money on R&D for 1.8" HDDs as 1.8" SSDs become very price competitive around the 64 - 128 GB mark. 1.8" 5mm HDDs only top out at 160 GB 120 GB so it's not that far ahead, and given the other benefits of SSD, companies are forgetting about these tiny Hard Drives.

jdechko
Aug 14, 2009, 03:37 PM
1.8" 5mm HDDs only top out at 160 GB so it's not that far ahead, and given the other benefits of SSD, companies are forgetting about these tiny Hard Drives.

I thought they topped out at 120GB, which is why that's the Max in the HDD Rev B/C Air. I think that the 160GB drives are dual-platter (80/80) which is why they're to tall.

Mactagonist
Aug 14, 2009, 04:16 PM
uhhh…………


I have no idea what you just said, but do you know the largest drive for the Air? Anything close to 250gb? Any plans? Anything? Shall I stick with 80gb forever?

Sell your Rev A Air, add that money to the money you are prepared to spend on a new HDD and buy a Rev B with either the 120gb HDD or the 128gb SSD. It will likely be cheaper and definitely be less frustrating then trying to upgrade the Rev A Air. Not to mention the many other benefits of the Rev B Air like its far better Nvidia graphics.

MacModMachine
Aug 14, 2009, 04:16 PM
I thought they topped out at 120GB, which is why that's the Max in the HDD Rev B/C Air. I think that the 160GB drives are dual-platter (80/80) which is why they're to tall.

your right.

thats why the 240gb is comprised of 2 of those 120gb platters....i have never heard of a 160gb single platter....1.8"

jdechko
Aug 14, 2009, 05:36 PM
I have never heard of a 160gb single platter....1.8"

Neither have I. I really don't think we will either. It's an interesting thing to note on the Air that the SSD surpassed the HDD in capacity (obviously). I know that manufacturers are focusing more on the SSD now, rather than HDD for the 1.8" segment, and without reading too much into anything, I wouldn't be surprised if the next MBA lineup ditched the HDD completely and went 100% SSD with 128(160?) on the low end and 256GB on the top end.

Also, given the lack of improvements in the 1.8" HDD, I'm wondering how long the iPod classic will stick around. I would be willing to bet that after the 64GB iPod Touch is released, we may see ~1 more year of the old classic form factor. A sad day to be sure but one that most of us have been (at least in part) expecting since the launch of the iPod Touch.

EssentialParado
Aug 14, 2009, 06:21 PM
Okay, thanks a lot guys.

I might take the suggestion of selling it. It's too small for me at 80, but I know that's plenty for other people.

designgeek
Aug 14, 2009, 07:43 PM
It's too thick. Apple won't go backwards and add a thicker, heavier hard drive. Very few companies are spending money on R&D for 1.8" HDDs as 1.8" SSDs become very price competitive around the 64 - 128 GB mark. 1.8" 5mm HDDs only top out at 160 GB so it's not that far ahead, and given the other benefits of SSD, companies are forgetting about these tiny Hard Drives.

I guess that makes sense. It's probably too thick to put in an iPod classic as well. I wonder if those will move to flash chips as well or if that style is on it's way out.

BlizzardBomb
Aug 15, 2009, 09:07 AM
I thought they topped out at 120GB, which is why that's the Max in the HDD Rev B/C Air. I think that the 160GB drives are dual-platter (80/80) which is why they're to tall.

Heh, got my numbers mixed up. I meant 120 GB. :)