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Keebler

Aug 16, 2009, 09:59 PM

And he didn't even look like he was pushing himself. The rest of the runners are going balls-out while he just looks like he really could've gone even faster. Amazing.

you're right. it looks like he slightly lets up the last 10 m's or so.

i haven't seen him run one full race all the way to the end yet and he still obliterates everyone. he truly is amazing to watch.

i think the only way for him to really give 'er is for someone to offer him x millions of dollars to bring 9.5 or lower or something.

will be interesting to see him go after the 200 Ms b/c he's just as fast and, I believe he's trying the 400 Ms this year. I wonder if he can maintain whatever fast pace he goes b/c that is a different type of race.

he is a beast!

designgeek

Aug 16, 2009, 10:13 PM

I remember seeing him run a relay in the last olympics. He was the third runner out of four and when he took the baton he opened like a 3m gap between him and 2nd place, plus he was on an outside lane, it was ridiculous.:D

Prom1

Aug 16, 2009, 10:44 PM

Unbelievable. I ran track in High School and my fastest was 11.1 in the 100 meter dash. 9.58 is near incomprehensible.

I had you beat 20yrs ago ... I ran 10.56 my fastest ... only because I had to pee soo badly and had butterfly's and wanted to impress a girl at school. I was 16. Avg times where 11.20 roughly.

I'll agree ... 9.58 is just INSANE!

I recall growing up and spending 2mths each winter in Montego Bay or Sandy Bay waking up and running on the beach with my family. Flat out for 100 - 200meters. I don't doubt he started off in a similar fashion at a very young age.

I see his only weakness. The starts. It seems the first 3-5 meters its difficult for him to lift up his knees to get a good stride. Its hard with his height being crouched down so low.

kymac

Aug 16, 2009, 10:48 PM

9.58 is just INSANE!

not insane.. USAIN!

tobefirst

Aug 17, 2009, 08:33 AM

I didn't catch this race (and YouTube is blocked at work), but I definitely caught the race in the Olympics. I could see shaving .11 seconds off the record if there were some kind of equipment or technique overhaul (much the way speed skating records fell in the 90s and the swimming records are falling today), but for just a single person, running with the same equipment, it is just simply incredible.

QCassidy352

Aug 17, 2009, 10:10 AM

Amazing performance, hopefully we won't find some weird 8 years down the line...

I was reading about this yesterday... apparently he's been setting age group WR since he was 15... went under 20 sec. in the 200 at 17... so he's had this ability from a very young age. Doesn't *prove* anything, but it looks a lot more legit than a guy who was running 20.something at age 20 and suddenly took a second off in a year.

I didn't catch this race (and YouTube is blocked at work), but I definitely caught the race in the Olympics. I could see shaving .11 seconds off the record if there were some kind of equipment or technique overhaul (much the way speed skating records fell in the 90s and the swimming records are falling today), but for just a single person, running with the same equipment, it is just simply incredible.

But if you saw the Olympics, you saw that he let up a good 20m before the line. I think he could have gone this fast then, if he'd wanted to.

This was arguably the single greatest athletic feat EVER, and it's relegated to a side-story on ESPN, with tiger woods losing by one shot being bigger news. Sigh.

opinioncircle

Aug 17, 2009, 11:30 AM

I was reading about this yesterday... apparently he's been setting age group WR since he was 15... went under 20 sec. in the 200 at 17... so he's had this ability from a very young age. Doesn't *prove* anything, but it looks a lot more legit than a guy who was running 20.something at age 20 and suddenly took a second off in a year.

I agree, but I really wouldn't want to see a headline or a press conference or some sort of book tell it all in 10 years from now. That would just do it for me and such sports...

And yeah that's terrible it was put in the background, but that's ESPN what did you expect? Worldwide leader in sports when they don't even cover worldwide events such as the Rugby World Cup or Cup of America and such...

gauchogolfer

Aug 17, 2009, 11:36 AM

I was listening to an announcer talk about the speed that Bolt ran yesterday, and he said that his peak speed was nearly 30 mph! That's just insane. Also, for those familiar with a 40-yard dash time from the NFL combine, his running start time (essentially the last 40 yards of his run this weekend) would have been 3.1 seconds. Once again, crazy fast.

tobefirst

Aug 17, 2009, 11:40 AM

But if you saw the Olympics, you saw that he let up a good 20m before the line. I think he could have gone this fast then, if he'd wanted to.

You're right. I didn't do a good job of explaining my comment. I completely agree that he could have come close(r) to the 9.58 at the Olympics if he pushed himself. I just find the rate that he is crushing the world record, whether it be back at the Olympics or now, to be incredible. We don't often see advances like this without some kind of equipment or technique advancement. Bolt is just insane.

edesignuk

Aug 17, 2009, 11:44 AM

I think he can still go faster...he let up again near the end.

Amazing.

irmongoose

Aug 17, 2009, 11:58 AM

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdV3vHSIJtQ) an HD version, so you can see the historic moment in crystal clear quality - plus, it's with English commentary. ;)

Looking forward to seeing Bolt up the ante in the future - awesome to see how we humans can still make "great leap[s] forward" like this.

irmongoose

mrfrosty

Aug 17, 2009, 12:18 PM

I heard he actually thinks he can do it in 9.4 seconds.

easy-mac

Aug 17, 2009, 02:07 PM

The sky is the limit for Bolt. I wouldn't be surprised if he hit the low 9.4 range when all is said and done. Remember, he's only 22, so he's still got a couple of years before he even hits his peak! Not to mention he was a 200m specialist before he started working on the 100m last year, so the event is still new to him. Running a 100m is more than just trying to run as fast as you can, there is a tremendous amount of technique in getting out of the block and as Bolt gets better at that he's only going to get scarier in terms of what he can do. He's a really big guy and that's probably the one thing holding him back now from running in the 9.4's. This guy is a freak of nature! I'd love to see what he could do in the 400 too, but I doubt he'll ever do it, at least not until he's in his late 20s and his 100m speed is starting to fade, but by then who'll ever know if he could have gone sub-43. This guy is about 30 years ahead of his time!

tabasco70

Aug 17, 2009, 09:27 PM

And he didn't even look like he was pushing himself. The rest of the runners are going balls-out while he just looks like he really could've gone even faster. Amazing.

The ability he has to look at the clock while running, and finish at the time he wants is amazing.

He only runs fast enough to win and create hype. It'd be boring for him if he'd run as fast as he could last year at the Olympics (God knows how fast that would be) because he wouldn't be able to keep breaking the WR. (and thus garner more publicity)

He's going little by little, giving the population just enough to remain excited.

Next year he's going to run 9.4.

killerrobot

Aug 17, 2009, 09:36 PM

I never broke the 11 seconds barrier in HS. I blame my vertically challengedness.;)

I can't even believe 9.58 s. If he can break into the .4s, that would be even more amazing.

lildimsum7

Aug 17, 2009, 10:15 PM

Bolt to set WR in 400m at 2012 Olympics!

obeygiant

Aug 17, 2009, 11:29 PM

I had you beat 20yrs ago ... I ran 10.56 my fastest ... only because I had to pee soo badly and had butterfly's and wanted to impress a girl at school. I was 16. Avg times where 11.20 roughly.

Thats fast. Probably fast enough to get you a scholarship back in the day. :D

Now a days I might be able to run 100m in 17 or 18 seconds.. if I'm lucky!

richard.mac

Aug 17, 2009, 11:47 PM

And he didn't even look like he was pushing himself. The rest of the runners are going balls-out while he just looks like he really could've gone even faster. Amazing.

first thing i thought is that he is definitely going harder than Beijing. but the crazy thing is that he still has some left in the tank and he smashed the WR by 0.11 sec! which is unbelievable if you look at the previous WRs which increased by only a few 100ths of a sec.

QCassidy352

Aug 18, 2009, 09:54 AM

He's a really big guy and that's probably the one thing holding him back now from running in the 9.4's.

I actually disagree with you there. I think his size is what's making this possible. He covers so much ground with each stride that a shorter runner's turnover would have to be dramatically faster to keep up. The one potential downside of his size is unfurling that full frame out of the blocks - you might think a shorter, more compact runner would have an advantage there. But since Bolt pretty much won this race in the first 30m, I guess that theory's out the window. ;)

Also - he won his 200m heat in 20.70. 1.4 sec. off his WR and still good enough to win a heat at world's!! :eek:

nj-mac-user

Aug 18, 2009, 02:12 PM

jecapaga

Aug 18, 2009, 02:41 PM

I think the only sprinter in the world who can even come close to challenging Bolt is Tyson Gay. If you look at their last race again, Gay was actually keeping pace with Bolt toward the end despite him being a couple strides back. If Gay can somehow improve how he gets off the block, he could pose potential threat.

Not sure about that. Watch again. I don't think the race was won or lost off the block by any stretch. Bolt just goes to a whole other gear midway and then turns it down towards the end.

easy-mac

Aug 18, 2009, 04:32 PM

I actually disagree with you there. I think his size is what's making this possible. He covers so much ground with each stride that a shorter runner's turnover would have to be dramatically faster to keep up. The one potential downside of his size is unfurling that full frame out of the blocks - you might think a shorter, more compact runner would have an advantage there. But since Bolt pretty much won this race in the first 30m, I guess that theory's out the window. ;)

Also - he won his 200m heat in 20.70. 1.4 sec. off his WR and still good enough to win a heat at world's!! :eek:

That's actually what I meant saying he's a big guy, he's got a big disadvantage coming out of the blocks. Watching his race at the IAAF's he is making big gains in that department over where he was at the Olympics, but he's still rough if you compare his technique to that of other world class sprinters, he comes out of his drive phase way too soon. I've heard that he is working hard on back strength and such to get better out of the blocks and it's starting to show, but it's only going to get better. Bolt is otherworldly when it comes to stride length and turnover speed, but he's mortal out of the blocks for now. Just wait a couple of years though, by age 25 I would be shocked if Bolt hasn't hit 9.45, he could have hit about 9.5-9.53 if he would have run the entire race at the IAAF's!

As for the 200m, I wouldn't expect Bolt to be going after that record again this week, though I may be wrong. Remember he actually ran all the way through the race in the Olympics. 19.3 is a very difficult time to achieve. Michael Johnson, the closest thing we've ever seen to Bolt as far as results go, only hit that mark once to set the world record. His next best time was 19.66, a whole 0.34 seconds off. With all the hype of the 100m, I wouldn't expect much from the 200 because Gay has dropped out due to injury. As for the heats, running 20.7 isn't indicative of anything, he simply wanted to win his heat and get through to the next round, actually a very smart move on his part. If you read about his reaction, it wasn't typical Bolt, he folded his hands by his head to show how tired he is. With his injury earlier this year he hasn't gotten the training in to be expected to break the world record at 200m again, but then again Bolt is Bolt, he could easily do it if he's not pushed too hard in the quarters and semis and gets plenty of rest.

nj-mac-user

Aug 18, 2009, 07:25 PM

Not sure about that. Watch again. I don't think the race was won or lost off the block by any stretch. Bolt just goes to a whole other gear midway and then turns it down towards the end.

I did look at it again and you're right, it does look like Bolt just hit his stride before Gay hit his. But when they both were at their strides about 3/4 of the way they look to be going equal speed. Plus, I'm not sure why everyone believes Bolt let up at the end. It wasn't anything like Beijing... He looked like he actually ran through the line this time despite glancing over. If anything it looked like Gay let up at the end when he knew he wasn't catching Bolt. There's no question Bolt is the number one sprinter in the world right now, I'm just saying Gay looks like he could actually pose a challenge in the future.

Chris Rogers

Aug 19, 2009, 10:54 AM

I had you beat 20yrs ago ... I ran 10.56 my fastest ... only because I had to pee soo badly and had butterfly's and wanted to impress a girl at school. I was 16. Avg times where 11.20 roughly.

I'll agree ... 9.58 is just INSANE!

I recall growing up and spending 2mths each winter in Montego Bay or Sandy Bay waking up and running on the beach with my family. Flat out for 100 - 200meters. I don't doubt he started off in a similar fashion at a very young age.

I see his only weakness. The starts. It seems the first 3-5 meters its difficult for him to lift up his knees to get a good stride. Its hard with his height being crouched down so low.

Hand timed? That's insane for HS. I hit 11.1 in HS

will be interesting to see him go after the 200 Ms b/c he's just as fast and, I believe he's trying the 400 Ms this year. I wonder if he can maintain whatever fast pace he goes b/c that is a different type of race.

No way. When I was in college I ran 400 (approx 50sec) and under and my roomate ran 800 and over. At a meet the coach had me run an 800. I said to my roomate with a cocky attitude that I could go under 2 minutes EASY since it's as simple as running 60 + 59 sec. WRONG! I hit 60 sec on my first lap and then 80 on my second lap. And I was TIRED.

The 400M is just a different type of race. You have to relax much more.

The ability he has to look at the clock while running, and finish at the time he wants is amazing.

He only runs fast enough to win and create hype. It'd be boring for him if he'd run as fast as he could last year at the Olympics (God knows how fast that would be) because he wouldn't be able to keep breaking the WR. (and thus garner more publicity)

He's going little by little, giving the population just enough to remain excited.

Next year he's going to run 9.4.

I think you hit the nail on the head :)

theBB

Aug 19, 2009, 02:25 PM

Also, for those familiar with a 40-yard dash time from the NFL combine, his running start time (essentially the last 40 yards of his run this weekend) would have been 3.1 seconds.
How did you get that number? A simple division of 40 yards by 100 meters gets me 3.5 seconds, but that would assume his speed is constant. It takes some time to get to that speed, so he should be taking longer than 3.5 seconds to reach 40 yards in reality. Of course, I don't know whether he holds back for a 100m race compared to what he would do for 40 yards, so that may balance things out. Anyways, I am curious how you got 3.1 seconds.

QCassidy352

Aug 19, 2009, 06:26 PM

Bolt is otherworldly when it comes to stride length and turnover speed, but he's mortal out of the blocks for now.

Right outta the blocks, like literally the first couple of strides, you're right. But he put that race away pretty soon after that.

As for the heats, running 20.7 isn't indicative of anything, he simply wanted to win his heat and get through to the next round, actually a very smart move on his part.

Oh, I absolutely agree. I was just saying it's amazing that he can run under 21 and basically look like he's jogging. 20.7 is not a bad time (though clearly not world class)!

No way. When I was in college I ran 400 (approx 50sec) and under and my roomate ran 800 and over. At a meet the coach had me run an 800. I said to my roomate with a cocky attitude that I could go under 2 minutes EASY since it's as simple as running 60 + 59 sec. WRONG! I hit 60 sec on my first lap and then 80 on my second lap. And I was TIRED.

The 400M is just a different type of race. You have to relax much more.

well obviously he'd have to train differently and learn some different mental approaches to racing, but I think he could break the WR in the 400 if he focused on that event for a while. Your experience relates to what would happen if he tried to run it today but not what it would be like if he trained for it.

easy-mac

Aug 20, 2009, 02:55 PM

As for the 200m, I wouldn't expect Bolt to be going after that record again this week, though I may be wrong. Remember he actually ran all the way through the race in the Olympics. 19.3 is a very difficult time to achieve. Michael Johnson, the closest thing we've ever seen to Bolt as far as results go, only hit that mark once to set the world record. His next best time was 19.66, a whole 0.34 seconds off. With all the hype of the 100m, I wouldn't expect much from the 200 because Gay has dropped out due to injury. As for the heats, running 20.7 isn't indicative of anything, he simply wanted to win his heat and get through to the next round, actually a very smart move on his part. If you read about his reaction, it wasn't typical Bolt, he folded his hands by his head to show how tired he is. With his injury earlier this year he hasn't gotten the training in to be expected to break the world record at 200m again, but then again Bolt is Bolt, he could easily do it if he's not pushed too hard in the quarters and semis and gets plenty of rest.

Well I said I could be wrong and boy was I ever! Bolt just broke the 200m world record by 0.11 seconds and lowered it to 19.19! This guy is a freak of nature! There must be something about him running the 100m on August 16 and the 200m on August 20, because he's set the world record on those days the last two years.
Back to the 100m, for those of you who are interested, Bolt actually ran a slower 1st 20m in his 100m than he did in the Olympics, but his last 20m, not surprisingly, was .07 sec faster. I've posted the breakdown below.
Beijing Berlin

20m 2.87secs 2.89secs

40m 1.78secs 1.75secs

60m 1.67secs 1.67secs

80m 1.64secs 1.61secs

100m 1.73secs 1.66secs
Source: http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/other-sports-news/usain-s-bolt-s-world-championships-100m-record-the-best-world-record-of-all-time-official-1.823266#

Edit: For all you football fans out there, using these numbers and the following formula it can be estimated that Bolt ran an amazing, but not unheardof fast 4.34 40 yard dash in his world record 100m run. I got this by using the following formula:
20m = 65.62ft
40yards = 120ft
Assuming that speed is fairly constant after the first 20m (some inaccuracy here) multiply the time to go over the 2nd 20 meters by (120-65.62)/65.62. This gives:
1.75*0.82871=1.45sec
2.89+1.45=4.34sec

dmr727

Aug 20, 2009, 05:15 PM

19.19.

You have *got* to be kidding me. :eek:

Abstract

Aug 20, 2009, 06:39 PM

Someone get this guy a cape!

irmongoose

Aug 20, 2009, 10:09 PM

HD video link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjHQZ2VNUyw&hd=1) again, for those who care.

19.19. A new hero for kids all around the globe. And adults, too. :p

irmongoose

twistedlegato

Aug 20, 2009, 11:21 PM

HD video link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjHQZ2VNUyw&hd=1) again, for those who care.

19.19. A new hero for kids all around the globe. And adults, too. :p

irmongoose

19.19 on the 200m? :eek::eek::eek:

That's just freaking ridiculous.

And on that 100m, he still let up the last 10m. I seriously think he could break 9.5 if he just keeps on running as he did the previous 90m. But i'm sure he's saving that for the 2012 Olympics ;)

edesignuk

Aug 21, 2009, 03:55 AM

Amazing. After he said that he was tired and that technically it was a bad race too! :eek:

What will he do on a good day!? :cool:

iBlue

Aug 21, 2009, 04:13 AM

How perfect is his name?

He comes across as pretty cool too. All just nonchalantly breaking world records and leaving people in his dust. :cool:

QCassidy352

Aug 21, 2009, 10:09 AM

A really good analysis of the 100m race:

http://www.sportsscientists.com/2009/08/analysis-of-bolts-958-wr.html

Abstract

Aug 21, 2009, 06:30 PM

How perfect is his name?

I know! If he didn't end up being a runner, he'd have to be a superhero or something. Can you imagine having a dentist with that name and height?

Phazotron

Aug 22, 2009, 01:17 AM

Well I said I could be wrong and boy was I ever! Bolt just broke the 200m world record by 0.11 seconds and lowered it to 19.19! This guy is a freak of nature! There must be something about him running the 100m on August 16 and the 200m on August 20, because he's set the world record on those days the last two years.
Back to the 100m, for those of you who are interested, Bolt actually ran a slower 1st 20m in his 100m than he did in the Olympics, but his last 20m, not surprisingly, was .07 sec faster. I've posted the breakdown below.
Beijing Berlin

20m 2.87secs 2.89secs

40m 1.78secs 1.75secs

60m 1.67secs 1.67secs

80m 1.64secs 1.61secs

100m 1.73secs 1.66secs
Source: http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/other-sports-news/usain-s-bolt-s-world-championships-100m-record-the-best-world-record-of-all-time-official-1.823266#

Edit: For all you football fans out there, using these numbers and the following formula it can be estimated that Bolt ran an amazing, but not unheardof fast 4.34 40 yard dash in his world record 100m run. I got this by using the following formula:
20m = 65.62ft
40yards = 120ft
Assuming that speed is fairly constant after the first 20m (some inaccuracy here) multiply the time to go over the 2nd 20 meters by (120-65.62)/65.62. This gives:
1.75*0.82871=1.45sec
2.89+1.45=4.34sec

I realize you're going from his starting times from 0 to 40 yards
(36.58 meters) but I looked at his overall time and came up with this:

100 meters / 9.58 seconds = 10.43 meters / second
That's 37.55 km/hr, or 23.33 miles/hr

10.43 m/s = 11.416 yards / second
40 yards / 11.416 yards/sec = 3.5 seconds :eek:

His fastest segment time, 60 meters to 80 meters in 1.61 seconds
20 meters / 1.61 seconds = 12.42 m/s which is 13.58 yards/sec
40yards / 13.58 yards/sec = 2.95 seconds

So yeah.... fast. :eek:

Chris Rogers

Aug 22, 2009, 08:52 AM

I realize you're going from his starting times from 0 to 40 yards
(36.58 meters) but I looked at his overall time and came up with this:

100 meters / 9.58 seconds = 10.43 meters / second
That's 37.55 km/hr, or 23.33 miles/hr

10.43 m/s = 11.416 yards / second
40 yards / 11.416 yards/sec = 3.5 seconds :eek:

His fastest segment time, 60 meters to 80 meters in 1.61 seconds
20 meters / 1.61 seconds = 12.42 m/s which is 13.58 yards/sec
40yards / 13.58 yards/sec = 2.95 seconds

So yeah.... fast. :eek:

Makes me wish I had stuck with track :( Coulda been me :p