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Oliver G
Aug 18, 2009, 08:50 AM
The official Wikipedia App for iPhone/iPod Touch is out and is free.

http://appstoreblogs.com/2009/08/official-wikipedia-app-out/



tboooe
Aug 18, 2009, 09:10 AM
Thanks for this. Just tried it and its ok. Slow. The other two wiki apps (wikiamo, wikipanion) are better right now. Lets see how it improves over time.

garethjs
Aug 18, 2009, 09:59 AM
installed it and removed it.

that's how bad it is.

doobs
Aug 18, 2009, 10:45 AM
installed it and removed it.

that's how bad it is.

Same here...Wikipanion is much better at the moment.

MacRumors
Aug 18, 2009, 10:50 AM
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http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/08/18/113813-wikipedia-2.jpg

http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/08/18/113813-wikipedia-1.jpg


Wikimedia Foundation has released an official iPhone app to access Wikipedia, the online collaborative encyclopedia. The app offers an alternative to browsing Wikipedia's mobile version via the Safari app. Its App Store description states that the app's code is "100% open source and community built" and programmers are welcome to help with the app.

Focused on "being very simple and very fast," Wikipedia Mobile's current feature list is small compared to other existing apps - both free and paid - that offer capabilities such as bookmarking, offline viewing and the ability to change font sizes.

Wikipedia Mobile is free and available in the App Store here (http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=324715238&mt=8) (link opens iTunes).

Article Link: 'Wikipedia Mobile' Official App Now in App Store (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2009/08/18/wikipedia-mobile-official-app-now-in-app-store/)

Sky Blue
Aug 18, 2009, 10:50 AM
A real link:

http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=324715238&mt=8

Teh Don Ditty
Aug 18, 2009, 11:06 AM
awesome! I can spend hours reading wikipedia.

labman
Aug 18, 2009, 11:19 AM
awesome! I can spend hours reading wikipedia.

Misinformation lol ya gotta love the wiki! ;) can't just get the wiki info doing a google search. oh well need to acces the Wikiperdia (We have a App for that!) :D

DavidLeblond
Aug 18, 2009, 11:21 AM
Better/Worse/The same as Wikipanion? I guess I could try it and find out...

mkrishnan
Aug 18, 2009, 11:22 AM
Nicely written app. I'm never going to get back down to two pages of apps at this rate. :o

GoCubsGo
Aug 18, 2009, 11:25 AM
It looks good. As for misinformation, it is not 100% right or wrong. I tend to think it does more good than bad.

Teh Don Ditty
Aug 18, 2009, 11:25 AM
Misinformation lol ya gotta love the wiki! ;) can't just get the wiki info doing a google search. oh well need to acces the Wikiperdia (We have a App for that!) :D

I keep hearing that wikipedia isn't a good source. I find that to be untrue (for the most part. There are articles that are certainly biased or whatnot).

EDIT: What jessica. said.

rdowns
Aug 18, 2009, 11:33 AM
Wait, so if I see it on the Internet, it's not necessarily true? :confused:

cliffboley
Aug 18, 2009, 11:36 AM
how does it compare with Wikiamo (which I like)?


some of Wikipedia's content may be wrong or misleading but its a great source
for info you could find no where else.

GoCubsGo
Aug 18, 2009, 11:36 AM
When I went to college, which was within the last 8 years, we weren't able to use wiki unless we could back up whatever was written with another source. Therefore, if we cited it, we best have a second footnote.

That said, I still believe it is doing better than it was in the beginning and it does more good than not.

I find wiki to be no worse than newspapers.

skip2
Aug 18, 2009, 11:45 AM
Ha. What a terrible app. Can't search in any other language than English. Really basic, simple and ugly. Tested Wikipanion too, not impressed. I've also tested Quickpedia, which I didn't like much either. Atm the best Wikipedia app IMO is Wikiamo, altho it isn't perfect either:

1. Can't customize the languages list (I'd like to have English first, Finnish second as they're pretty much the only ones I use)
2. Doesn't have the "languages" section of the Wikipedia side bar. Very easy to check out more info in English thru there if I'm on a Finnish page, or just check what something is in some other language. I use this loads on the computer. I don't think any Wikipedia iPhone app has this though.

I hope Wikiamo will be developed further to support these. Then it'd be near perfect for me at least.

BeyondtheTech
Aug 18, 2009, 11:49 AM
Full of lies, I tell you! (clutches Bible)

Seriously though, is it any better than the other Wiki-apps? I've been using Wikipanion and it's been decent, but I always like going with official apps.

iOrlando
Aug 18, 2009, 11:51 AM
i think this app will become one of my "top" apps. it can come in handy often.

fredf
Aug 18, 2009, 11:58 AM
seriously: how is this any different from opening Wikipedia in Safari and doing a search?

iOrlando
Aug 18, 2009, 12:09 PM
seriously: how is this any different from opening Wikipedia in Safari and doing a search?

ever trying using facebook the app and then facebook on Safari.. difference in speed is noticeable.

nagromme
Aug 18, 2009, 12:15 PM
Wikipedia is not always accurate. It cannot be the one and only final source you use for any important decision or communication.

What source IS always accurate? What source CAN be the one and only final source? There is no such source. You can never turn off your brain. Given that fact of life, Wikipedia is a brilliant project and VERY useful.

I've used several iPhone Wikipedia tools. My mini-review:

1. Wikipanion. I found it failed to find things that WERE on Wikipedia, so I stopped using it a few months ago.

2. WikiTap. It defaulted to a limited cached version of Wikipedia, with some screen space wasted offering to play "relevant" videos. You have to switch manually to "real" Wikipedia each time. So I stopped using that too. (Although the cache would be neat for Touch users away from WiFi, if it works the way I think.)

3. Wikipedia's mobile Web site (which has its own iPhone icon if you bookmark it to the home screen). Works great. Being a Web app it does have a load delay, but LESS than the delay of the "real" app I think. And it supports landscape viewing IIRC.

4. This new REAL app. I haven't used it much yet, but so far it's mixed. "Simple and fast" is the goal, and I like that--but to meet that promise, I'd want it to load straight to a functional search field, and that takes several seconds right now, as the last article you viewed loads (a feature you can't toggle but you can Clear the history).

It's not very polished. Some weird Linuxy-looking text field comes up at first while loading, there's a non-standard loading pinwheel, and the search field has (useless) AutoFill and Prev/Next buttons wasting screen space like a Web form! The search text is very tiny, smaller than normal iPhone input text. And landscape viewing is not supported.

In short, it feels like something open source :o

Features: back/forward, history, show/hide for article sections, images, and search (no live suggestions as you type). That's sufficient--just add more speed and polish!

For now, I say just bookmark Wikipedia's iPhone-specific site--it's nice. But this app could get good in time.

ever trying using facebook the app and then facebook on Safari.. difference in speed is noticeable.

I agree re Facebook--but not in this case. Facebook in Safari is slow, but Wikipedia has an iPhone-optimized site that works quite well. It's not slow, and it lacks the rough edges of this new app. This new app is "just OK."

VenusianSky
Aug 18, 2009, 01:09 PM
From what I am reading here, guess I'll just stick with wikiamo.

COBRASVT
Aug 18, 2009, 02:23 PM
From what I am reading here, guess I'll just stick with wikiamo.

Do.

I was coming on here to talk about how bad this app is. Guess others have beat me to the punch.

Can't even zoom onto pics. Have to tap to bring them up into a separate window and then, can't even scroll around the pic. No way to even get to the right hand side of a pic.

What a POS of an app for now!

iphones4evry1
Aug 18, 2009, 02:45 PM
Wikipedia has an iPhone-optimized site that works quite well. It's not slow, and it lacks the rough edges of this new app. This new app is "just OK."

Thanks for typing all of that! :)

I have been using Wikipanion for almost a year now, and I love it; HOWEVER, more recently I have been noticing that a lot of searches turn up nothing, and then I go to the Wikipedia site in Safari and the topic comes right up when I search for it. Wikipanion has potential, but it seems like it's developers have allowed a critical problem to go unfixed for too long. I am going to give Wikipanion another month, and if they don't fix it, I'm just going to default to the Safari icon, as you suggest. Thank you again for the reviews you typed. :)
(I already have the Wikipedia Safari bookmark on my homescreen, next to Wikipanion)

wackymacky
Aug 18, 2009, 03:08 PM
I don't really see much point in that the mobile site via safari seems to do the trick.


Yes Wikipedia is full of conjecture, hearsay and fanaticism. And most of the material that isn't is just copy and pasted from other sources.

But how else whould it grow so big? 3,002,772 articals in English alone. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics ). YOu can expect all of this unpaied work to be high calabre.

seattle29
Aug 18, 2009, 03:33 PM
Looks like this app doesn't even work with a 1st-gen iPod Touch... every time you try to install it you get a "not compatible with this device" error message....

spacemnspiff
Aug 18, 2009, 04:01 PM
For now, I say just bookmark Wikipedia's iPhone-specific site--it's nice. But this app could get good in time
Is this the main page that you are talking about 'en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page'. When I type in that page it usually goes to the mobile page.

Or Can you post the main page link here ? Thx.

scirica
Aug 18, 2009, 06:27 PM
I'm with the majority here. This initial release is a step backwards from the Wiki Mobile I've been using for a while. Going to remove from my device but keep in itunes to follow updates.

Strike one...

Jeff321
Aug 18, 2009, 06:42 PM
This app seems unnecessary to me since as was already stated, the iPhone optimized website works great in Safari.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/

nagromme
Aug 18, 2009, 09:25 PM
Is this the main page that you are talking about 'en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page'. When I type in that page it usually goes to the mobile page.

Or Can you post the main page link here ? Thx.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org is iPhone-friendly and works great--and as you note, it's automatic by default.

Another good reason to choose the Wikipedia mobile site instead of any app: then you're already in Safari where you can simultaneously open other sites on the topic you're investigating.

chrbau
Aug 18, 2009, 09:34 PM
I have been using wiki mobile and wikipanion they both seem better than wikipedia mobile. Go figure.

Dokter_Mac
Aug 18, 2009, 10:11 PM
Looks like this app doesn't even work with a 1st-gen iPod Touch... every time you try to install it you get a "not compatible with this device" error message....

Yeah this sucks and makes no sence at all!
If you run iPhone OS 3.1 beta3 the message you get on a first gen ipod is 'you need a microfone for this application'?

Common, a simple Wiki app and you need a microfone?
This is soo stupid!!! The same thing happens with Duke Nukem 3D.

Never the less you can install both apps ;).
Download such apps with iTunes on your Mac or PC, download the iPhone Configuration Tool from Apple (for Mac or PC), locate the apps in your iTunes library and copy them to your Desktop.
Change the .ipa extension into .zip and extract the files.
Open the unzipped folders and locate the app.

Launch the iPhone Configuration tool and install them manual to your iPod ;).
I installed Duke Nukem this way & I'm sure it will work with this simple Wiki app!

BTW: Duke Nukem runs just fine on a ipod first gen.
Any slowdowns on some devices will be solved after the 3.1 update will be released in a few weeks. Greets.

Randman
Aug 19, 2009, 12:45 AM
Wikipedia is for stupid people to think that they're not stupid.

They are. Even more so for using wikipedia.

Badandy
Aug 19, 2009, 03:33 AM
I don't get these kind of applications.

Open Safari
Tap the google search bar
Type "wiki ____" with whatever you're looking for
Click first link

It's easy.


Wikipedia is for stupid people to think that they're not stupid.

They are. Even more so for using wikipedia.

So where do you go to get a quick summary on topics you may not know a lot about? Here, I have a wikipedia article for you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex

Randman
Aug 19, 2009, 03:52 AM
So where do you go to get a quick summary on topics you may not know a lot about? Here, I have a wikipedia article for you.

Encyclopedia. History books. Newspaper and magazine searches.

The idea behind wikipedia is sound but the practice loses much as disinformation and the wrong information can and is posted. People take it as fact without verification even when it's dead wrong.

Wanting to rely on accuracy and research is not superiority complex, it's seeing wikipedia for what it's worth.

redgaz26
Aug 19, 2009, 05:50 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_0_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7A400 Safari/528.16)

The app store icon is the same as the mobile version!!!!!!!

Darkroom
Aug 19, 2009, 06:25 AM
official or not, Wikipanion is way better.

Wikipedia is for stupid people to think that they're not stupid.
They are. Even more so for using wikipedia.

is this a quote from Family Guy?

Bjohnson33
Aug 19, 2009, 07:09 AM
It looks good. As for misinformation, it is not 100% right or wrong. I tend to think it does more good than bad.

Agreed - not to be taken as gospel, but a good jumping off point for further research.

SFStateStudent
Aug 19, 2009, 10:45 AM
One less app I need to download....:eek:

foobarbaz
Aug 19, 2009, 01:45 PM
The idea behind wikipedia is sound but the practice loses much as disinformation and the wrong information can and is posted.

Funny. I always thought the idea was ridiculous, but works surprisingly well in practice.

People take it as fact without verification even when it's dead wrong.

The same can be said about television, newspapers, books and scientific papers. These are all created by humans with imperfect knowledge or an agenda.

Relying on a single source of information is the problem, not that Wikipedia is inherently less reliable. At least Wikipedia makes a great starting point for finding more sources.

wackymacky
Aug 19, 2009, 10:54 PM
Wikipedia is for stupid people to think that they're not stupid.

They are. Even more so for using wikipedia.


Its fine for a quick look-see on a topic, say, what the hell are "EGFR antibodies". You may get an answer a fraction of a second faster than using Google.

The quality of the info, like anything in the internet (including MacRumors) needed to be regarded with health scepticism.

nagromme
Aug 19, 2009, 11:15 PM
Wikipedia is for stupid people to think that they're not stupid.

They are. Even more so for using wikipedia.

Agreed. Name-calling and insults are for the true intellectual :D

Encyclopedia. History books. Newspaper and magazine searches.

Somebody should make an app or mobile Web site that puts all of those in one place in your pocket. That would be great!

However, if you want the kind of confident accuracy you're talking about, I think you should exclude newspapers, magazines, and history books. And take encyclopedias with a big grain of salt--use them as a jumping off point to help you on the way to more verified sources. Like the way I use Wikipedia. You can never turn off your brain--you must always cast a critical eye on ANY source.

What you need is primary sources, not the things you name. Until that app comes out connecting to primary sources that cover all topics, Wikipedia passes the "useful" test :) You can't deny that Wikipedia is often VERY useful. Flawed, like any human endeavor. And yet useful. In fact, for all its weaknesses, it also has unique strengths that no other source has.

(Nobody's thinking of using it to decide death penalty cases, luckily.)

jabbawok
Aug 24, 2009, 07:20 AM
Wikipedia is for stupid people to think that they're not stupid.

They are. Even more so for using wikipedia.

Balls, All that time I spent thinking that I was clever and now I find I was just deluded.

More to the point, it is unbareably slow.

apfhex
Aug 25, 2009, 02:33 PM
Meh. The only reason I wanted Wikipedia apps in the first place is because there wasn't a iPhone/smartphone formatted version of the website. Now that they have that, I don't find any reason to use the apps. Have Kiwi and Wikipanion Wikipedia in Safari is faster, and formatted better. One thing I liked about Wikipanion is search, something mobile Safari could really use.

RedTomato
Aug 25, 2009, 03:06 PM
I paid 6 for Encyclopadia

http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=288141564&mt=8

which is basically an almost complete download of Wikipaedia onto your iPhone, taking over 2GB. Am reasonably happy with it - it contains most articles and I wanted to get it for reading in the tube or when abroad or somewhere with no signal.

Also the sheer geekery of having the complete (almost) wiki stored in my phone in my pocket :)

Odd, paying for something that's freely available, but it's the same price as a few bottles of mineral water, and that's free from the tap.

Bummers are that if you have in-depth knowledge about something, it probably won't have the highly specialised article you wanted. Also the discussions aren't included, which can be one of the most interesting parts :)

cretony38
Aug 25, 2009, 03:24 PM
I interject "defenitions" as I see fit, on a regular basis on Wikipedia. They sometimes dont catch on for days... But still it can be entertaining to have a topic come up and have your friends groan when you have the answers on the iPhone. iPhone groan.