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MacBytes
Jun 25, 2004, 01:18 PM
Category: --- Special Topics
Link: Users are being told to avoid using Internet Explorer until Microsoft patches a serious security hole in it. (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20040625141850)
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valve83
Jun 25, 2004, 01:23 PM
I just think that their choice of picture/caption is really funny, for whatever reason...call me crazy...just seems like a quirky thing to focus on, and have a picture of to boot =P

mainstreetmark
Jun 25, 2004, 01:51 PM
Oooh!

A "Special Topic"!!

redAPPLE
Jun 25, 2004, 01:56 PM
And now to our daily Micro$oft problem...

dombi
Jun 25, 2004, 02:14 PM
And this is Mac related how? ...
;)

Oh, that's right Microsoft used to make web browsers for the Mac...was that called IE too?
:p

RHutch
Jun 25, 2004, 02:21 PM
I wonder if Secunia will count this when they put out their next round of garbage about security. :confused:

Stella
Jun 25, 2004, 02:32 PM
User should stop using IE all together. It belongs in the 90s:

- no tabbed browsing
- no pop up supression
- slow
- fugly interface
- New IE windows (from links) hijacks existing IE windows
- poor javascript support, supporting incompatible - standard JS model (IE< document.all) - its not up to date


Yes, yes, several of the above points will be fixed in Bug Patch 2, as MS followes will point out - however, MS should have implemented these ages ago. Oh, they have no incentive to, because they are a monopoly. Additionally, with microsoft and missing features its always - " coming in the next version ".

IE is hideous. Winblow users should realize there are better browsers. You look around before buying a car or cooker, shame windows users don't do the same with the software they use.

AS usual with MS, its poor quality software.

macridah
Jun 25, 2004, 02:45 PM
You don't have to tell me not to use IE. At work (cause i have to use windows), I use Firefox, and at home I use Safari all the way.

nagromme
Jun 25, 2004, 03:03 PM
Windows users are literally being advised not to use the Internet. Wow.

http://news.com.com/2100-7349_3-5247187.html

BTW... How long have these particular holes remained unpatched? (Not to mention, until updates just now appearing, most antivirus software couldn't detect these intrusions, despite similar past incidents on a smaller scale?)

And it sounds like the problem on the site end is MS's fault as well. So sites not hosted by MS products are safe? (Maybe they SHOULD release that list of infected sites they're keeping under wraps. Loss of traffic might be a wake-up call to companies depending on MS for their servers.)

PS, I wonder if this site is infected... it's SLOW today.

Sun Baked
Jun 25, 2004, 03:12 PM
Since MS said they were done updating Explorer for Macs, this is like telling all Mac users to stop using it forever. :eek:

Yay.... :D

cjc343
Jun 25, 2004, 03:17 PM
:p


This article has me laughing hysterically..... I think I might send it to a certain Windows Tech Support Agent who has a grudge against Macs, but refuses to say why.....


I need to go check the business section.... Hopefully this will be front page (of business) today or tomorrow.

nagromme
Jun 25, 2004, 03:17 PM
Re "telling all Mac users to stop using it forever"... Not so--Macs are immune from this infection. (As has been the case with most IE flaws.) Not that it would be a great loss if we DID have to abandon IE :)

Darwin
Jun 25, 2004, 03:20 PM
Why do we miss out on all this fun

Oh well maybe one day :D

(I do hope not :p )

Mudbug
Jun 25, 2004, 03:42 PM
Oooh!

A "Special Topic"!!

I'm so totally happy I could make your day like that. I kinda figured this one deserved it - with the whole "if you use windows, stay off the internet" feel to it...

/me hugs his mac again.

Sun Baked
Jun 25, 2004, 04:16 PM
Re "telling all Mac users to stop using it forever"... Not so--Macs are immune from this infection. (As has been the case with most IE flaws.) Not that it would be a great loss if we DID have to abandon IE :)It's not the files that it's dropping onto the drive that is the problem, since the Macs won't use them.

It's that darn security hole that allows files to be dropped on the drive, damn MicroSieve.

Knox
Jun 25, 2004, 04:44 PM
Windows users are literally being advised not to use the Internet. Wow.


The irony being of course that they have to use IE in order to see all the warnings that they should not use IE....

PS, I wonder if this site is infected... it's SLOW today.

Can't be infected - doesn't run IIS. Actually, i think it's the advert at the top which is causing the browser to stop loading the rest of the page. Several times now I've had the page loading stalled and when the advert is loaded it suddenly starts again.

mkrishnan
Jun 25, 2004, 04:54 PM
Hmmm...what's this then? All Windows users are urged not to go on the internet? A collective sigh of relief passes over all the techinical help sites and forums on the web. ;) Now we just have to get rid of the AOL users.... :p

But I still use OS X IE occasionally because one site I go to has a java-based chat room that crashes Safari like mad, and doesn't run at all in Mozzer.

BTW, in Mozilla, do you have to do more than just click enable Java to get applets to work? I just get a hollow green box in place of the applet. :(

I find it ironic and irritating how often applets are the source of compatibility issues that drive people to use MSIE...ahhh, even Java is sullied by their hands. :rolleyes:

Longey Nowze
Jun 25, 2004, 05:33 PM
Hmmm...what's this then? All Windows users are urged not to go on the internet? A collective sigh of relief passes over all the techinical help sites and forums on the web. ;) Now we just have to get rid of the AOL users.... :p

But I still use OS X IE occasionally because one site I go to has a java-based chat room that crashes Safari like mad, and doesn't run at all in Mozzer.

BTW, in Mozilla, do you have to do more than just click enable Java to get applets to work? I just get a hollow green box in place of the applet. :(

I find it ironic and irritating how often applets are the source of compatibility issues that drive people to use MSIE...ahhh, even Java is sullied by their hands. :rolleyes:


There is a a thread in the Apple discussion boards in the safari section about Java called "Java applets won't run" check out it.

Chip NoVaMac
Jun 25, 2004, 06:54 PM
You don't have to tell me not to use IE. At work (cause i have to use windows), I use Firefox, and at home I use Safari all the way.

Unfortunately there are websites that seem to only like IE. A site I need for work (Washington Post E-Tearsheets) will only work on IE. I have tried the Safari Debug menu and the suggestion that someone made about Firefox to no avail.

mkrishnan
Jun 25, 2004, 07:27 PM
There is a a thread in the Apple discussion boards in the safari section about Java called "Java applets won't run" check out it.

Thanks! Do you mean here or on developer.apple.com? I couldn't find the thread you're talking about.

FWIW on Safari it *runs*, but Safari beachball-of-death's after a little while. On Moz it doesn't run at all. :(

Longey Nowze
Jun 25, 2004, 08:02 PM
Thanks! Do you mean here or on developer.apple.com? I couldn't find the thread you're talking about.

FWIW on Safari it *runs*, but Safari beachball-of-death's after a little while. On Moz it doesn't run at all. :(

it's at discussion.info.apple.com here's (http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?14@157.rcuUa2iyqhk.88350@.6894b895) the link I'm there too cuz I'm having problems with Java too :( a lot of people seem to have problems and a lot of people don't it's complicated :confused:

Thanks
MaT

aarond12
Jun 25, 2004, 10:57 PM
Hey Apple... Now is the PERFECT time to release Safari for Windows. Let's make Safari/KHTML the next browser standard! :)

-Aaron-

cjc343
Jun 26, 2004, 04:20 AM
Hey Apple... Now is the PERFECT time to release Safari for Windows. Let's make Safari/KHTML the next browser standard! :)

-Aaron-


That would suck.

wdlove
Jun 26, 2004, 11:33 AM
Since MS said they were done updating Explorer for Macs, this is like telling all Mac users to stop using it forever. :eek:

Yay.... :D

I haven't really used IE since I switched to Panther & Safari. It just amazes me that MS isn't on top of these issues. The sleeping giant, what happens when it wakes up! :eek:

"Virus targets personal data - Financial, password information at risk"

By Hiawatha Bray, Globe Staff *|* June 26, 2004

Surfing the Internet got a little more dangerous yesterday, as security specialists discovered a virus that spreads through infected Web pages and could steal sensitive information like credit card numbers.

"It's demonstrating the evolution and the constant innovation in the hacking and virus community," said Chris Kraft, a senior security analyst at antivirus software vendor Sophos Inc.

The new attack affects only computers running software from Microsoft Corp., specifically the Windows operating system and the Internet Explorer browser, and Web servers using Microsoft's Internet Information Server.

http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2004/06/26/virus_targets_personal_data/

bousozoku
Jun 26, 2004, 12:12 PM
Hmmm...what's this then? All Windows users are urged not to go on the internet? A collective sigh of relief passes over all the techinical help sites and forums on the web. ;) Now we just have to get rid of the AOL users.... :p

But I still use OS X IE occasionally because one site I go to has a java-based chat room that crashes Safari like mad, and doesn't run at all in Mozzer.

BTW, in Mozilla, do you have to do more than just click enable Java to get applets to work? I just get a hollow green box in place of the applet. :(

I find it ironic and irritating how often applets are the source of compatibility issues that drive people to use MSIE...ahhh, even Java is sullied by their hands. :rolleyes:

For Mozilla to use applets, nothing else is necessary; however, those applets which were made with the latest MS Visual J++ won't likely work correctly on anything else.

nagromme:

I think that the Macintosh version of internet exploder is immune because it is missing most of the advances that MS put into the Windows version. MS never seems to be able to make things right, then add features.

Mr Poop E Pantz
Jun 26, 2004, 01:42 PM
I think that the Macintosh version of internet exploder is immune because it is missing most of the advances that MS put into the Windows version. MS never seems to be able to make things right, then add features.

According to this article (http://wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,63994,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_4) the Mac version of IE is not affected.

mkrishnan
Jun 26, 2004, 03:14 PM
For Mozilla to use applets, nothing else is necessary; however, those applets which were made with the latest MS Visual J++ won't likely work correctly on anything else.

This is the sad ugly fact that keeps MSIE in business. :( That and bad Java programming / containerization which makes classes unavailable cuz the JVM doesn't know where to find them in the JAR....

Although I'm forgiving to the latter difficulty...when I was learning Java I wrote some applets that used sound, and the sound functions worked fine on my PC, worked fine even when I created a simple web-server on my PC and HTTP'd them off it, but never worked on anyone else's PC. :(

King Cobra
Jun 26, 2004, 03:17 PM
Users are being told to avoid using Internet Explorer until Microsoft patches a serious security hole in it. (http://www.macbytes.com/link.php?sid=20040625141850)
When I click on the link, I get this:


Warning: mysql_connect(): Host '192.168.1.4' is blocked because of many connection errors. Unblock with 'mysqladmin flush-hosts' in /home/macbytes/public_html/link.php on line 9
Unable to connect to database

(continues to browse the forums using Mozilla)

brap
Jun 26, 2004, 03:24 PM
(continues to browse the forums using Mozilla)
It's not browser specific... it appears the main server which hosts both Macrumors and Macbytes' MySQL database is coughing, spluttering and needs the Heimlich...