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donaghy
Aug 22, 2009, 12:20 PM
Hi all, I recently bought a 2nd hand macbook. The bottom right palm rest has a bit of plast missing round the edges, very common issue ive heard. As this is a known issue will apple replace/fix the problem for free or do you need to have it under apple care or still under warranty?

Also, i've got an issue with the cd drive not reading cds? It tries to read cd but then just ejects. This happens for all cds, any ideas why?

cheers.



ETID
Aug 22, 2009, 12:34 PM
I took mine in out of warranty and they just replaced the whole top case in half hour for free. I'm still wanting to know whether they will replace my cracks near the air vent though as these seem just as common but seemed rude to ask as they had just done a free repair!

Have no idea about the cd drive though.

iLog.Genius
Aug 22, 2009, 12:45 PM
I think the program that fixes the cracked MacBook casing is over. I'd still try to get the Apple Store to take a look at it but no guarantees.

donaghy
Aug 22, 2009, 12:51 PM
no harm in asking i guess so will take down to store on monday. cheers

Richard1028
Aug 22, 2009, 12:52 PM
Lots of luck getting it fixed. I guess it all depends on who you talk to and what mood they're in.

With the recent price drops on the macbook/pro line I'm guessing the bean counters at Apple are really cracking down on this.

Never hurts to try though.

ETID
Aug 22, 2009, 02:27 PM
To me personally it seems unacceptable that there is a "program" for this repair. My sister's and flat mate's macbooks cracked recently and if they don't replace the topcase I will not be happy.

The white macbook is a great machine but is marred by its poor quality casing.

Bill Gates
Aug 22, 2009, 03:05 PM
To me personally it seems unacceptable that there is a "program" for this repair. My sister's and flat mate's macbooks cracked recently and if they don't replace the topcase I will not be happy.

The white macbook is a great machine but is marred by its poor quality casing.
How is that unacceptable to you? Surely it would have been best if they had produced a quality product in the first place. However, the fact that they created a program for this purposes shows that Apple took the initiative to publicly declare that there is a design flaw and to replace affected casings for customers out-of-warranty. You would be hard-pressed to find a better resolution.

Richard1028
Aug 22, 2009, 05:17 PM
The white macbook is a great machine but is marred by its poor quality casing.Not to mention its marred by some of the handling practices by the owners as well.

Some folks are pretty rough with their units and one can only imagine how much of that cost is built into Apple's product line.

ETID
Aug 22, 2009, 06:02 PM
When I meant I find the program flawed I mean in the fact it has ended, i.e people with faulty units that will have to pay when it is mostly not their fault. I applaud Apple for fixing them but not so much if they are halting this program.

I admit that it probably will occur more quickly if the laptop is bashed around but I know for a fact that mine has been transported with care its whole life and yet I had cracks on my topcase and under the rear vents.

Supposedly the ones they replace them with are stronger now so who knows...

Warbrain
Aug 22, 2009, 06:25 PM
I think the program that fixes the cracked MacBook casing is over. I'd still try to get the Apple Store to take a look at it but no guarantees.

I don't think so.

They're still repairing cracked cases when they come in.

Daveoc64
Aug 22, 2009, 06:30 PM
There isn't and never was a "program" covering this issue.

The issue with the product is ongoing (you have to remember Apple is STILL selling computers with the design flaw) and as such, there is no expiry date for the free repair.

Apple might choose to stop it one day, but I don't see that happening for a few years.

You should be able to get it fixed for free in or out of warranty on any White or Black plastic MacBook.

Other problems that get a repair program (such as logic board and graphic card flaws) tend to have a limited timescale on them in order to ensure that only those users who suffer due to that problem are covered and people who just have general (and reasonably expected) failure are not.

The plastic is always going to be an issue, so it's treated differently by Apple.

Daveoc64
Aug 22, 2009, 06:41 PM
Some folks are pretty rough with their units and one can only imagine how much of that cost is built into Apple's product line.

It wouldn't be factored in to the cost of any of Apple's products.

They take a clear stance against even suspected cases of user abuse.

Richard1028
Aug 22, 2009, 09:37 PM
It wouldn't be factored in to the cost of any of Apple's products.LOL! You must work for a government agency where there is no accountability to a Board of Directors and stockholders. Even Steve Jobs' haircuts are factored into the cost of your mac. You're naive to think otherwise.

iLog.Genius
Aug 23, 2009, 12:01 AM
I think you're right, there really isn't a program like there is for batteries, nVidia GPU but there is a time period that Apple will take faulty cases. After that time period (I want to say 3 years), Apple is not obligated to fix it. (If you think about it, getting the cracks 5 years later - I wouldn't expect anyone to believe that Apple or any manufacturer will take and repair it free of cost)

ETID
Aug 23, 2009, 04:56 AM
I think you're right, there really isn't a program like there is for batteries, nVidia GPU but there is a time period that Apple will take faulty cases. After that time period (I want to say 3 years), Apple is not obligated to fix it. (If you think about it, getting the cracks 5 years later - I wouldn't expect anyone to believe that Apple or any manufacturer will take and repair it free of cost)

I would say three years sounds about right but this assumes that the macbooks they are selling now don't crack. What I mean to say is are the ones being produced now actually stronger and more resistant to cracking or is that just rumours.

On a similar note, just noticed a crack in the lower case near the thumb grip to open the laptop, strange I didn't expect it to occur there.

fabian9
Aug 23, 2009, 09:35 AM
I would say three years sounds about right but this assumes that the macbooks they are selling now don't crack. What I mean to say is are the ones being produced now actually stronger and more resistant to cracking or is that just rumours.

On a similar note, just noticed a crack in the lower case near the thumb grip to open the laptop, strange I didn't expect it to occur there.

My girlfriends spring 2008 macbook still cracked - that's probably around 1.5 years after the first case of cracking occurred? I still don't think they reinforced the area at all...

They did change the plastic they were using though for a different issue, which was to do with the discolouration of the MacBooks.

melissa.b.u
Aug 24, 2009, 11:10 AM
can you bring it into the apple store or how can i get one of the repair boxes so i can send it in?

Buzzworms
Aug 24, 2009, 12:40 PM
can you bring it into the apple store or how can i get one of the repair boxes so i can send it in?

You can bring it in to an Apple Store. If you call to arrange AppleCare service they ship a box overnight via Fedex w/ explicit packing instructions and a pre-paid return label. I just sent mine in for a new logic board from AZ and it was shipped back to my house inside 48 hrs! I did the same for a bottom case replacement just a month earlier. The Apple Store Genius bar folks gave me no problems about replacing bottom case due to the usual cracks.

donaghy
Aug 24, 2009, 02:10 PM
just a question on replacing your bottom case buzzworm, did you say your laptop was still under applecare or did they say they would replace it regardless due to it being a common fault?

melissa.b.u
Aug 24, 2009, 05:29 PM
You can bring it in to an Apple Store. If you call to arrange AppleCare service they ship a box overnight via Fedex w/ explicit packing instructions and a pre-paid return label. I just sent mine in for a new logic board from AZ and it was shipped back to my house inside 48 hrs! I did the same for a bottom case replacement just a month earlier. The Apple Store Genius bar folks gave me no problems about replacing bottom case due to the usual cracks.

do i have to book an appointment at the mac store if i go? i was planning on going tomorrow so their schedule is all full. or could i even just pick up a repair box at the store as well?

Buzzworms
Aug 25, 2009, 10:04 AM
just a question on replacing your bottom case buzzworm, did you say your laptop was still under applecare or did they say they would replace it regardless due to it being a common fault?

My CD MacBook still had 3 months of AppleCare when I left it at the Apple Store for bottom case and LCD replacement BUT they immediately agreed the cracks were evident and would replace the bottom case not yet knowing it was covered by AppleCare. I didn't even notice cracks along the vent - I brought it in for cracks below trackpad - it was the genius woman who pointed out the rear cracks. I had it back in 4 days.

Buzzworms
Aug 25, 2009, 10:18 AM
do i have to book an appointment at the mac store if i go? i was planning on going tomorrow so their schedule is all full. or could i even just pick up a repair box at the store as well?

I believe you must always make a genius bar appointment to discuss warranty issues. My shipping box was Fedexed overnight for my most recent AppleCare service after calling, but it's likely your Apple Store has them as well.

melissa.b.u
Aug 26, 2009, 07:21 AM
I believe you must always make a genius bar appointment to discuss warranty issues. My shipping box was Fedexed overnight for my most recent AppleCare service after calling, but it's likely your Apple Store has them as well.

what number do you have to call? i can't seem to find anything on the site about getting a repair box sent to my house so i dont know what to do :confused:

chan2004
Aug 26, 2009, 08:36 AM
what number do you have to call? i can't seem to find anything on the site about getting a repair box sent to my house so i dont know what to do :confused:

You can always take your MB directly to an apple authourized service provider.
They will replace the keyboard and the cracked part for free.

I won't waste my time on genius.

Buzzworms
Aug 26, 2009, 09:43 AM
what number do you have to call? i can't seem to find anything on the site about getting a repair box sent to my house so i dont know what to do :confused:

You must make an online appointment for your local Apple Store Genius Bar - that can't be done over the phone. If they agree to repair it (which is likely) they'll Fedex it to the repair facility from the store. As for the box, my MB was still covered by AppleCare, so after arranging the repair w/ AppleCare over the phone they Fedexed the box overnight.

Spongey817
Aug 26, 2009, 10:30 AM
Hey guys

I'm looking to take my MacBook in sometime this week for the same exact problem...just a quick question

Does Apple offer any type of "trading up?" For example, I give my MacBook + cash for a new unibody MBP?

I don't expect them to, nor will I have a problem if they don't. I was just wondering if something like this was possible. Thanks...

donaghy
Aug 26, 2009, 10:43 AM
FYI to everyone with this problem. Took my macbook to genius bar today and they said they will replace the top case for free even though my macbook is out of warranty and no applecare cover. The guy was sound, no complaints. However, to replace my superdrive would cost over £100 which i think is ridiculously expensive but i nvr use it so not replacing it. The guy said the same thing, he rarely uses his too and unless it was really needed then he wouldn't bother with it either.

Had an issue with my airport card having intermittent signal strength, they think its a software issue but wont know more until they take a look. With Snow Leopard being released this week i wont get it back until monday, not that i'm bothered, just happy to get sorted :)

Surely
Aug 26, 2009, 10:55 AM
Hey guys

I'm looking to take my MacBook in sometime this week for the same exact problem...just a quick question

Does Apple offer any type of "trading up?" For example, I give my MacBook + cash for a new unibody MBP?

I don't expect them to, nor will I have a problem if they don't. I was just wondering if something like this was possible. Thanks...

No, Apple doesn't have a Cash For Clunkers program. :D


FYI to everyone with this problem. Took my macbook to genius bar today and they said they will replace the top case for free even though my macbook is out of warranty and no applecare cover. The guy was sound, no complaints. However, to replace my superdrive would cost over £100 which i think is ridiculously expensive but i nvr use it so not replacing it. The guy said the same thing, he rarely uses his too and unless it was really needed then he wouldn't bother with it either.

Had an issue with my airport card having intermittent signal strength, they think its a software issue but wont know more until they take a look. With Snow Leopard being released this week i wont get it back until monday, not that i'm bothered, just happy to get sorted :)

Thanks for the update.

I have some cracking on the plastic bezel that is around my screen, right near the 1 inch raised plastic line that stops the screen from touching the keyboard. I'm out of warranty, so I wasn't sure if anything could be done. Hopefully they'll replace that for me without charge.

I've had my MacBook since late 2007 (2.2 GHz SR), and I've had to bring it in twice for cracking issues. Both times were still within my warranty period though. Once was for cracking on the bottom casing, and once was for cracking on the 'palm rest' area, near the sleep light.

This cracking issue has nothing to do with being too rough or abusing the MB. I baby my MB, I keep it clean, and I am always very careful with it. Actually, last week someone commented on how clean and new it still looks, and was surprised to hear that I've had it since Nov. 2007.

Spongey817
Aug 27, 2009, 01:19 AM
No, Apple doesn't have a Cash For Clunkers program. :D

You mean I can't trade in my MB for a MBP with better MPG (battery life)? :D

aduarte
Aug 28, 2009, 08:49 AM
I just took my macbook in for a cracked edge on the casing and they are saying that they detected "liquid damage" on the inside so my warranty is void and they will not fix the cracking unless I pay $800 to fix my computer which was working perfectly. I am going in today to talk to them. I am extremely dissappointed. This is my first macbook and may be my last. This isn't apple care; it is apple scare.

Daveoc64
Aug 29, 2009, 07:06 AM
I just took my macbook in for a cracked edge on the casing and they are saying that they detected "liquid damage" on the inside so my warranty is void and they will not fix the cracking unless I pay $800 to fix my computer which was working perfectly. I am going in today to talk to them. I am extremely dissappointed. This is my first macbook and may be my last. This isn't apple care; it is apple scare.

This is the sort of thing that worries me about those Liquid sensors in products.

cjmillsnun
Aug 29, 2009, 07:17 AM
I just took my macbook in for a cracked edge on the casing and they are saying that they detected "liquid damage" on the inside so my warranty is void and they will not fix the cracking unless I pay $800 to fix my computer which was working perfectly. I am going in today to talk to them. I am extremely dissappointed. This is my first macbook and may be my last. This isn't apple care; it is apple scare.

1. Liquid damage is very common in MacBooks. The keyboard lets liquids straight though into the inside of the computer. They are extremely strict about liquid damage, because the main component that gets damaged (the keyboard) is replaced as part of the top case repair.