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MacRumors
Sep 1, 2009, 06:21 PM
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Vonage, a digital phone services provider, has put out a brief press release (http://pr.vonage.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=406478) stating that Apple has approved its iPhone app. The app is not yet available in the App Store and Vonage notes that it "is currently conducting a beta test and general availability will be announced at a later date."

It was revealed (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2009/08/26/vonage-iphone-application-submitted-to-apple/) just last week that Vonage had submitted an iPhone app to the App Store for approval. The Vonage app will join the Skype (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/30/official-skype-app-is-now-available-in-the-app-store/) app in offering VoIP connectivity to iPhone users and will likely share its Wi-Fi-only restriction. This restriction is required by an agreement with AT&T to not allow customers to use AT&T's network to initiate or terminate VoIP sessions, which was divulged recently in Apple's response (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/08/21/apple-publicly-responds-to-fcc-inquiry-comments-on-google-voice-app-status/) to an FCC inquiry surrounding its purported rejection of the Google Voice app.


Article Link: Vonage VoIP App Approved by Apple (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2009/09/01/vonage-voip-app-approved-by-apple/)



iphones4evry1
Sep 1, 2009, 06:26 PM
"The Vonage app will join the Skype app in offering VoIP connectivity to iPhone users and will likely share its Wi-Fi-only restriction."

Cool. Makes perfect sense. :apple:

Power to the Wi-Fi !!!!!!! :cool:

SFStateStudent
Sep 1, 2009, 06:29 PM
Little late, but I'm sure a welcome app for many. I just find Skype to meet my needs.....:cool:

guru_ck
Sep 1, 2009, 07:29 PM
Did anyone see their stock? Up 46% afterhours.

The power of :apple:

alent1234
Sep 1, 2009, 07:48 PM
Little late, but I'm sure a welcome app for many. I just find Skype to meet my needs.....:cool:


how much is it to call landlines or people who don't have skype?

djdole
Sep 1, 2009, 07:50 PM
Hypocrisy, thine name is Apple. :rolleyes:

coolbreeze
Sep 1, 2009, 09:26 PM
how much is it to call landlines or people who don't have skype?

I don't use it much, but I can call landlines in the US from the US via Skpye for free.

I use Skype for all my 1-800 conference calls during the day. It's actually a more reliable connection that ATT in my home.

Figures.

bacaramac
Sep 1, 2009, 09:39 PM
I have vonage for both my home phone and my business line. I am guessing this will work the same as their softphone software which is great news for me. I can get rid of my main line and just pay 9.99 a month for a softline since both my wife and I have iPhones.

Can't wait to see the features of this. Hopefully Vonage doesn't screw everyone and come out with some stupid plan that requires a home line to get a softline. Looking on their website it looks like new customers have to have the main line to get a softline, but my account still lets me add just a softline without having it tied to my home line.

Snowy_River
Sep 2, 2009, 02:29 AM
Well, I'm hoping that the app will be able to access the home line, without the need to spend the extra on a softline. We have a home line that it would be nice to be able to tap into from my iPod Touch from time to time when I'm elsewhere...

iphones4evry1
Sep 2, 2009, 03:23 AM
Well, I'm hoping that the app will be able to access the home line, without the need to spend the extra on a softline. We have a home line that it would be nice to be able to tap into from my iPod Touch from time to time when I'm elsewhere...

Can you answer your home phone using your iPod Touch (or iPhone) then?
For example, if you are in your house and your home phone is ringing but the phone is in another room, can you just pick up and answer using your iPod/iPhone?

sirdir
Sep 2, 2009, 04:38 AM
Apple, it's quite stupid to sell 'free' iPhones that can be used with providers that allow voip within their terms of service but then to forbid all applications that would do that.

nkawtg72
Sep 2, 2009, 06:09 AM
Apple, it's quite stupid to sell 'free' iPhones that can be used with providers that allow voip within their terms of service but then to forbid all applications that would do that.

What?!

hsl
Sep 2, 2009, 06:41 AM
There's also another free SIP/VOIP application so this is not really "new"

XSPhone, it's developped by a Dutch ISP, but it also works with voip-/sip-buster and all other Telephone providers that offer connection through SIP.

GregA
Sep 2, 2009, 08:13 AM
It'd be interesting if Apple made a VoIP play on the iPod Touch

It could be the ultimate in VoIP phones really.

Can you answer your home phone using your iPod Touch (or iPhone) then?
For example, if you are in your house and your home phone is ringing but the phone is in another room, can you just pick up and answer using your iPod/iPhone?

No-one seems to offer anything like this, though I suspect it's possible.

Most VoIP providers don't allow your home phones to have multiple separate logins - such that a single number rings 3 or 4 separate VoIP handsets simultaneously. Hosted PBX systems can allow that, and usually lose the cost savings VoIP brings (IMO)!. Home voip systems have started offering multiple cordless handsets connected to a single VoIP base - that's no good for multiple iPhone VoIP apps though.

But even with the ability to ring both extensions (a home phone AND iPhone app) simultaneously, mostly the iPhone app is switched off. So the VoIP server needs to attempt to ring both extensions, fail on the iPhone but ring the home phone, and then watch to see if the iPhone extension connects in the next 30 seconds (and if so direct the call to it too).

It's doable, but a little beyond what most programmers seem to do.

btw: I have to wonder why Skype doesn't offer push calls yet. I presume the push notification isn't quick enough to get the phone to "ring", open the app, and answer the call before the caller has given up. I think VoIP will have to be Apple sanctioned as a background app.

sirdir
Sep 2, 2009, 08:13 AM
What?!

I have a 'free' (aka factory-unlocked) iPhone - they sell those in some countries of Europe. So, why should I care wether AT&T likes VOIP on their network, when my carrier allows me to use it?

GregA
Sep 2, 2009, 08:16 AM
There's also another free SIP/VOIP application so this is not really "new"

XSPhone, it's developped by a Dutch ISP, but it also works with voip-/sip-buster and all other Telephone providers that offer connection through SIP.

These are other voip apps. Australian prices
* Weephone SIP $6 – 3.5star (current) 3star (older) Configurable SIP ports.
* 12Connect Open SIP Softphone: $8 (2star)
* iMC Client – $9 – Requires probably expensive "Mobile Convergence Controller"... http://www.comdasys.com/Products/FMC/index_html?lang=en
* iSip (aka SipPhone) $9 (4star current, 3star older) Runs while in sleep mode too.
* Media5 US ONLY (US$7, A$9) 1.5 star average overall.
* Acrobits Softphone $10 (4 star current, 3 star older)
* iPico SIP Client $13 (1.5star)

GregA
Sep 2, 2009, 08:19 AM
I have a 'free' (aka factory-unlocked) iPhone - they sell those in some countries of Europe. So, why should I care wether AT&T likes VOIP on their network, when my carrier allows me to use it?

Yeah.
In Australia, Three has a package integrating Skype calls via their mobile network. It'd be nice if they allowed Skype on the iPhone at least!

leons
Sep 2, 2009, 10:21 AM
How do you use Skype to call US Land lines for free? :confused:


I don't use it much, but I can call landlines in the US from the US via Skpye for free.

I use Skype for all my 1-800 conference calls during the day. It's actually a more reliable connection that ATT in my home.

Figures.

alphaod
Sep 2, 2009, 10:25 AM
how much is it to call landlines or people who don't have skype?

Skype World unlimited is $99 a year while Vonage Unlimited is $25 a month.

alent1234
Sep 2, 2009, 10:56 AM
Skype World unlimited is $99 a year while Vonage Unlimited is $25 a month.


do you get a phone number? i was looking at getting rid of Vonage, but it's more expensive to use the cell phone during daytime than for vonage

vista.john
Sep 2, 2009, 12:30 PM
How do you use Skype to call US Land lines for free? :confused:

1-800 number are free... even for regular users... I could be wrong, but that's what I got, no subscription, they don't charge me anything for making 1-800 calls.

hanpa
Sep 2, 2009, 01:49 PM
I live in Europe, in a country that should not be under the dictatorship of AT&T/Apple. My operator allows me to use 7.2 Mbit/s without restrictions, also Skype on 3G but I have to jailbreak my device to use this. I suggest that Apple adds an AT&T switch in their firmware to allow the free parts of the world to use the iPhone to its full potential.

hanpa
Sep 2, 2009, 02:47 PM
"The Vonage app will join the Skype app in offering VoIP connectivity to iPhone users and will likely share its Wi-Fi-only restriction."

Cool. Makes perfect sense. :apple:

Power to the Wi-Fi !!!!!!! :cool:

This joke is not funny

Scooterman1
Sep 2, 2009, 03:02 PM
On Broadvoice, you can configure an incoming call to Ring Simultaneously on multiple U.S. phones.
As for dialing out with your iPhone, or the incoming call ringing through your home WiFi connection, this isn't in place.

gilkisson
Sep 2, 2009, 03:04 PM
I live in Europe, in a country that should not be under the dictatorship of AT&T/Apple. My operator allows me to use 7.2 Mbit/s without restrictions, also Skype on 3G but I have to jailbreak my device to use this. I suggest that Apple adds an AT&T switch in their firmware to allow the free parts of the world to use the iPhone to its full potential.

Quoted both for truth and for political irony...

hsl
Sep 2, 2009, 04:02 PM
These are other voip apps. Australian prices
* Weephone SIP $6 3.5star (current) 3star (older) Configurable SIP ports.
* 12Connect Open SIP Softphone: $8 (2star)
* iMC Client $9 Requires probably expensive "Mobile Convergence Controller"... http://www.comdasys.com/Products/FMC/index_html?lang=en
* iSip (aka SipPhone) $9 (4star current, 3star older) Runs while in sleep mode too.
* Media5 US ONLY (US$7, A$9) 1.5 star average overall.
* Acrobits Softphone $10 (4 star current, 3 star older)
* iPico SIP Client $13 (1.5star)

XSPhone is the only free SIP client at the moment. :P

hanpa
Sep 3, 2009, 12:00 PM
Quoted both for truth and for political irony...

No irony in this case, US is not a free country regarding Apples dictatorship related to how 2g/3g cellular networks can be used. This should be left to the carriers in each country and not to Apple and AT&T to decide for the rest of the world.

Se also the "irony" in
http://www.scribd.com/doc/18983512/ATT-Response-to-FCC-iPhone-Letter-082109-as-Filed

If this is true, Apple please allow us to USE 2g/3g now, please! It's NOT your problem if there will be congestion in my network, my carrier will handle this.

nickweston
Sep 5, 2009, 11:37 AM
CAVEAT CAVEAT

Vonage is THE #1 worst most horrible company I've ever had the extreme displeasure of dealing with.

I won't bore you with the details, but it took me over a year and countless hours on the phone to get out of my contract with them.

Their customer service is ABYSMAL

avoid avoid avoidhttp://images.macrumors.com/vb/images/smilies/mad.gif

verakot
Sep 5, 2009, 12:07 PM
Hypocrisy, thine name is Apple. :rolleyes:

It's all about MONEY. Vonage will be apying Apple a royalty.

marshtric
Sep 6, 2009, 02:47 PM
This is amazing! More and more VOIP apps are being allowed into the app store! Fring, Skype, and now Vonage along with many more to come. In a short press release today, Vonage announced that Apple had approved their VOIP app for the App Store

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gilkisson
Sep 6, 2009, 02:58 PM
No irony in this case, US is not a free country regarding Apples dictatorship related to how 2g/3g cellular networks can be used. This should be left to the carriers in each country and not to Apple and AT&T to decide for the rest of the world.

Se also the "irony" in
http://www.scribd.com/doc/18983512/ATT-Response-to-FCC-iPhone-Letter-082109-as-Filed

If this is true, Apple please allow us to USE 2g/3g now, please! It's NOT your problem if there will be congestion in my network, my carrier will handle this.

Horse feathers. If you do not wish to use an Apple product, don't buy one. There is no "dictator" forcing you into a contract, a device, or any toy.

Basically, you are upset that you cannot have the toy you want in the flavor you want today. Therefore, you are slinging all the naughty words you can, that Apple is a "dictator", and because of Apple and AT&T, you and your entire nation are not "free".

You are free to choose any toy you wish. None of them are magical, and nothing is perfect.

macfan881
Sep 6, 2009, 04:01 PM
so when will this be in the app store?

ITGuy
Sep 18, 2009, 03:14 PM
I just spoke with a Vonage sales agent about the Vonage iPhone app, and boy do I hope she was misinformed about some of the details:

1) It is not tied to your existing Vonage account. It isn't Vonage Companion for your iPhone and isn't associated with your existing Vonage number. :eek: You don't even need to be an existing Vonage customer or have an existing Vonage phone number to use the Vonage iPhone app.

2) The Vonage iPhone app will be geared/marketed towards the international traveler, allowing cheap international calls to be made over a WiFi connection. This would be something that competes with the cheap or prepaid long distance calling cards/service.

3) There will be more info provided to the public at the end of September.

Again, I hope she was wrong about it not being tied to your existing Vonage phone number for incoming and outgoing calls. Yikes! If this is true, perhaps they don't want their iPhone app competing with the $9.99 a month Vonage Companion softphone.

Vonage, please don't disappoint us!!!

ITG

Xibalba
Sep 20, 2009, 01:05 PM
voange is an excellent service and i have had it for years - never again will i own a true landline for telephone use (some security systems require a landline but the cheapest rate is only about $6 per month with no other features than local calling for the security system)...

Xibalba
Sep 20, 2009, 01:17 PM
I just spoke with a Vonage sales agent about the Vonage iPhone app, and boy do I hope she was misinformed about some of the details:

1) It is not tied to your existing Vonage account. It isn't Vonage Companion for your iPhone and isn't associated with your existing Vonage number. :eek: You don't even need to be an existing Vonage customer or have an existing Vonage phone number to use the Vonage iPhone app.

2) The Vonage iPhone app will be geared/marketed towards the international traveler, allowing cheap international calls to be made over a WiFi connection. This would be something that competes with the cheap or prepaid long distance calling cards/service.

3) There will be more info provided to the public at the end of September.

Again, I hope she was wrong about it not being tied to your existing Vonage phone number for incoming and outgoing calls. Yikes! If this is true, perhaps they don't want their iPhone app competing with the $9.99 a month Vonage Companion softphone.

Vonage, please don't disappoint us!!!

ITG

okay, this would be a terrible version of the vonage app and really cause tons of people to be upset - what a waste if this is true. although it would make more sense with apple's app regulation and policies.

mdntcallr
Sep 20, 2009, 02:11 PM
CAVEAT CAVEAT

Vonage is THE #1 worst most horrible company I've ever had the extreme displeasure of dealing with.

I won't bore you with the details, but it took me over a year and countless hours on the phone to get out of my contract with them.

Their customer service is ABYSMAL

avoid avoid avoidhttp://images.macrumors.com/vb/images/smilies/mad.gif

I haven't had a single problem with Vonage. two lines with them and all is good in my house, and while i am on the road. though i do wish that the Iphone APP would allow for vonage calls over 3g.

likegadgets
Sep 23, 2009, 02:57 PM
This is looking like vaporware. Not even one leak from the beta testers (if there are any)?

Supa_Fly
Oct 7, 2009, 12:53 AM
TruPhone ... anyone ever hear of it?
Its available for a long time in the Canadian APP store and allows free iPhone to iPhone calls over VOIP. They've been around just about as long as Skype has but previously only for S60 platform nokia devices.

zx9r
Nov 15, 2009, 02:00 AM
Truphone -- used to be a favorite of mine when I used a Nokia. iPhone version still doesn't support the speakerphone and they are blaming apple for it (even though every other SIP/voip app supports the speaker...). Also, their service pricing is no longer competitive. They have turned into a standard telecom now.

Vonage -- have to agree with the "worst customer service" comment. Although for basic calling everything was fine for the year I used it but using a softphone app at the time didn't work and they continued to charge me $10 a month after a year of discontinuing it, calling them every month, etc. Finally just had to give up and they kept over $100 they owed me. Never to return...no matter what.

iSIP or SIPPhone -- worked for a few days. crashed a lot, and haven't been able to get it to work again. Very irritating is when you select the number to dial and it can't connect, you get no message or anything. The number just becomes unhighlighted again. For an app that costs money, inexcusable.

Acrobits Softphone -- This is what I use today. Use it with Broadvoice and Gizmo. Not perfect but when it works well it is great. The push notification works most of the time (not all) and it is easy to switch between the service you want to use. Main issues are echo (which is probably also related to the network, etc) and lots of calls get initiated but neither party can hear the other one once it is answered--seems to be happening more and more with Gizmo (maybe something to do with Google...)