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morgothaod
Sep 2, 2009, 02:12 PM
Edit: I found the list of games on a mac on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Macintosh_games but I would still like to hear comments regarding if I can have an enjoyable gaming experience on a Mac.

I'm torn between buying the Asus G51VX-RX05 and the Macbook Pro (the 13-inch: 2.26GHz and I'll upgrade the memory to 4gig). I'm a fan of the portability of the Mac and its long battery life. I'm also annoyed with blue screens, error messages, and other frustrations of using Windows. However, I want to be able to play games on my laptop and I don't know if the Macbook Pro will be good enough for me.

The games I like are not current. They include Quake 3 Arena, Diablo 2, and Soldiers of Fortune 2. I'm a big fan of first person shooters and I want to be able to play those games without it being slow. Having said that, I would like to know all of the games that are available for Mac. Is there such a list out there?
If I can search the games through type: First person shooter, RPG, etc. that would be wonderful and helpful in determining my decision of which laptop to buy.

Will I also be able to open excel files (.xls) and .pdf files on a Mac?



SilentPanda
Sep 2, 2009, 02:21 PM
There is some information here in the MacRumors guides:

http://guides.macrumors.com/Category:Gaming

Miharu
Sep 2, 2009, 02:47 PM
The thing about the games you mentioned is that they were made for Macs with PPC processors, there aren't universal patches for them (except Quake 3?) to make them work that well on Intel Macs. Diablo 2 should work quite nicely though.

But Quake Live runs great so you could play that instead of 3 :) Of course, Excel and PDF files will open on Mac, .xls files require an office program like Microsoft Excel or OpenOffice.org. PDF's run straight out of the box, no need to download any acrobat reader.

But seriously if you are a real gamer, and you know yourself if you are one, Mac isn't really for you. You can install Windows on it and play through that, but then it's almost the same as if you bought a PC laptop instead. There really are not many Mac versions of popular PC games, for example in the RPG department the latest I can think of is Neverwinter Nights 2 and no expansions for it are available. I am playing Fallout 3 and such through Windows.

morgothaod
Sep 2, 2009, 04:27 PM
I'll go talk to the Mac guy at Best Buy. But before I do, can anyone else comment on my thread?

Plutonius
Sep 2, 2009, 05:05 PM
I'll go talk to the Mac guy at Best Buy. But before I do, can anyone else comment on my thread?

What will you use the computer for ? If it's primarily for gaming, save some money and get a PC (or better yet a console).

Go to an Apple Store if you can. I would only go to Best Buy if you know what you are getting and don't have questions.

savvos
Sep 2, 2009, 05:32 PM
Best Buy people may not be the best to ask about Macs unless they have an Apple specialist at the "store within a store" (there are threads about this on the forum.)

The Mac you are looking at will play pretty much any modern FPS if you also install Windows and dual boot. You will need to reduce the settings for some games, especially crisis to get acceptable frame rates. Also, what performance are you looking for? If you absolutely need 60 fps on all your games, you will need a much larger computer with a beefier graphics card (and a shorter battery life.)

morgothaod
Sep 2, 2009, 06:09 PM
Don't laugh but the primary purpose of the laptop is for viewing porn. I'll also want to be able to play a game or two and watch tv shows from Hulu.com. I'm not up to date with the latest games, so I'll just be playing Quake Live, Soldiers of Fortune 2, Diablo 2, and maybe even Unreal Tournament 2004. I may even play Tribes (if people still play that) or Tribes 2. I'll probably play some free MMORPG's as well (I don't know any titles off the top of my head though). As for specific performance or frames per second, I don't know. I just want to be able to enjoy the games without it being choppy or slow (ie unplayable!). Basically, I don't have to be the top fragger in the room but I would like a shot at being in the top 5.

My Best Buy does have an Apple rep in the store.

rkdiddy
Sep 2, 2009, 06:13 PM
Wow, you get an "A+" for honesty! :eek:

Well, my experience is it all depends what games you're looking at. As many have mentioned the hardward is more than capable, but a lot of times the games simply won't run on Mac.

I know I would love to get Battlefield running on my MBP or Mini but Direct X drivers aren't supported, so it is a no go (unless I use bootcamp).

Jack Flash
Sep 2, 2009, 06:15 PM
The Asus has a GTX 260M. The MacBook has a 9400M.

The difference is so vast... well, let's say that if you want to play games on your computer you absolutely want the GTX 260M.

Jordz
Sep 2, 2009, 06:17 PM
Well, the new GPU upgrades in the macbooks and macbook pros are certainly capable of running some of the most demanding games nicely. There are some nice games for mac, World of Warcraft being one of them ;)! The thing is, if you bootcamp you can run windows games easily on your mac. When windows dies (which it will) you just get rid of the partition! :D

And for porn, safaris private browsing is good for keeping the history clear and you wont get the crappy little viruses downloads that screw windows up :)

morgothaod
Sep 2, 2009, 06:30 PM
I screwed up my other computer because of a porn site. So thats honestly the main reason why I'm thinking about buying a Mac. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy other stuff about the Macbook Pro such as long battery life, portability, and its stunning beauty. I heard many times that Macs don't get viruses (or they rarely do) and that I don't need virus protection on it. That makes me feel much better because I do have the fear that I may ruin another windows based machine again (so far I haven't screwed this one up too bad).

As for "the gaming simply won't run on Mac" comment, I'll just buy a Mac game. Or are you saying that even if the game says its for Mac, it may not run? Cause I saw Diablo 2, Quake Live, and Unreal Tournament 2004 for Mac (on the list of mac games in wikipedia) and I'm considering playing those.

andrew upstairs
Sep 2, 2009, 06:30 PM
You could install a Windows partition with Boot Camp.

morgothaod
Sep 2, 2009, 06:35 PM
I don't know how all of that works or what it means. I would think though that having Windows on a Mac defeats the purpose of owning a Mac.

IBradMac
Sep 2, 2009, 06:39 PM
I screwed up my other computer because of a porn site.

.....

There is still some risk, even with a Mac...

ask me how I know.. :o:(

morgothaod
Sep 2, 2009, 06:46 PM
Well if thats the case then I can go the PC route and limit my porn viewing to safe sites. Out of these options, what is the best gaming machine for $1500? You all can recommend another one too.

Gateway - FX Edition Laptop with Intel® Centrino® 2 Processor Technology

Model: P-7805u

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9172511&type=product&id=1218043606827

Asus - Laptop with Intel® Centrino® 2 Processor Technology - White/Black

Model: G51VX-RX05

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9366651&type=product&id=1218092150636

Or one of gaming machines from

http://www.xoticpc.com/custom-gaming-laptops-notebooks-gaming-laptops-ct-118_96_98.html

Jack Flash
Sep 2, 2009, 06:53 PM
You want a laptop with a GTX 260M.

Jordz
Sep 2, 2009, 07:07 PM
I don't know how all of that works or what it means. I would think though that having Windows on a Mac defeats the purpose of owning a Mac.


No it doesn't, mac can be a 2 in one, and boot camp is VERY simple, its just a matter of clicking next a few times and inserting a disk! You don't have to know how it works, it's easy simple and I've done it for a few PC games, crysis being one of them!

Gatteau
Sep 2, 2009, 10:21 PM
Of course you can. Plus you could always install Windows via Bootcamp.

Eidorian
Sep 2, 2009, 10:23 PM
The Gateway FX notebooks have been a popular choice for the midrange gamer notebook.

They're bloody heavy though but you don't complain for the price. Anand has done a few reviews of them and faced off the dual vs. quad variants.

thejadedmonkey
Sep 2, 2009, 10:42 PM
As for "the gaming simply won't run on Mac" comment, I'll just buy a Mac game. Or are you saying that even if the game says its for Mac, it may not run? Cause I saw Diablo 2, Quake Live, and Unreal Tournament 2004 for Mac (on the list of mac games in wikipedia) and I'm considering playing those.

A lot of games won't run on OS X. Many games that do run on OS X, don't run as well as they do on Windows, using the same hardware. Also, even if you install Windows on your Macbook (pro?) Apple has a habit of underclocking the video card to reduce heat.

This may sound very stupid, but why not just keep using your PC, and when you wanna watch porn, use a Linux Live CD and watch using Linux. Linux is free, and also immune from Viruses. It also won't touch your hard drive.

morgothaod
Sep 3, 2009, 08:27 AM
A lot of games won't run on OS X. Many games that do run on OS X, don't run as well as they do on Windows, using the same hardware. Also, even if you install Windows on your Macbook (pro?) Apple has a habit of underclocking the video card to reduce heat.

This may sound very stupid, but why not just keep using your PC, and when you wanna watch porn, use a Linux Live CD and watch using Linux. Linux is free, and also immune from Viruses. It also won't touch your hard drive.

Please tell me how to get Linux and how to switch to it before viewing porn. My computer knowledge is quite low.

Sambo110
Sep 3, 2009, 08:41 AM
Why do you need a new OS to watch porn? Surely a lot of sites out there are trustworthy?

morgothaod
Sep 3, 2009, 10:07 AM
Why do you need a new OS to watch porn? Surely a lot of sites out there are trustworthy?

Better safe than sorry my friend

chrono1081
Sep 3, 2009, 12:25 PM
I play games on mine all the time. If its not a mac specific game I boot into windows and play.

psingh01
Sep 3, 2009, 12:48 PM
That's what bootcamp is for. The only game I play in OS X is Diablo 2 lol. For everything else it's bootcamp/Windows.

MacOSX handles PDFs natively so you can view them with no problem. In fact you can "print" anything to a PDF file. If you want to create them. For excel files I sure you'll need to get MS Office for Mac.

BrianKonarsMac
Sep 3, 2009, 12:56 PM
you can do excel files and pdf, no issues.

Can you game on a mac? Sure, but gaming on a mac is not a great experience - buy a PC or console.

Huntn
Sep 3, 2009, 02:29 PM
Can you game on a mac? Sure, but gaming on a mac is not a great experience - buy a PC or console.

Depends on what kind of games you want to play. Tons of casual games ready to be played native MacOS. Less of the AAA titles. See this Apple.com Gaming (http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/software/games?mco=Nzk4NTExNA) link.

And if you are not adverse to Windows, you can play games just fine. I've been playing the latest PC games on my MBP no problemo.

morgothaod
Sep 3, 2009, 04:17 PM
Depends on what kind of games you want to play. Tons of casual games ready to be played native MacOS. Less of the AAA titles. See this Apple.com Gaming (http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/software/games?mco=Nzk4NTExNA) link.

And if you are not adverse to Windows, you can play games just fine. I've been playing the latest PC games on my MBP no problemo.

What games do you play?

Jack Flash
Sep 3, 2009, 04:55 PM
Really just get that Asus with GTX 260M and be careful with your online surfing habits.

Download AVG Free Antivirus, Windows Defender and AdWare Anniversary Edition and do not download untrusted files to your computer.

For example, going to Hulu to watch a streaming television show instead of downloading one from the Internet or Bittorrent. Apply this method to any programming you are interested in. Get it?

With safe computing methods you will be fine. Unfortunately you have to exercise caution no matter the platform you're on.

Mac is no exception.

Example #1 (http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/vulnerabilities/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=217800858)

Example #2 (http://www.macworld.com/article/140075/2009/04/mac_botnet.html)

My guess is that if you want to play games on your computer you will be disappointed with Mac hardware.

The GTX 260M is roughly equivalent to a desktop 8800GT. The 9400M is roughly equivalent to a 9400GT.

The GTX 260M is much, much, much faster. Do not buy the 9400M to play games on. That's the bottom line.

Also, you will need to run Windows to play modern games regardless of the hardware vendor you buy from. Mac's gaming selection is pitiful.

morgothaod
Sep 3, 2009, 07:53 PM
Really just get that Asus with GTX 260M and be careful with your online surfing habits.

Download AVG Free Antivirus, Windows Defender and AdWare Anniversary Edition and do not download untrusted files to your computer.

For example, going to Hulu to watch a streaming television show instead of downloading one from the Internet or Bittorrent. Apply this method to any programming you are interested in. Get it?

With safe computing methods you will be fine. Unfortunately you have to exercise caution no matter the platform you're on.

Mac is no exception.

Example #1 (http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/vulnerabilities/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=217800858)

Example #2 (http://www.macworld.com/article/140075/2009/04/mac_botnet.html)

My guess is that if you want to play games on your computer you will be disappointed with Mac hardware.

The GTX 260M is roughly equivalent to a desktop 8800GT. The 9400M is roughly equivalent to a 9400GT.

The GTX 260M is much, much, much faster. Do not buy the 9400M to play games on. That's the bottom line.

Also, you will need to run Windows to play modern games regardless of the hardware vendor you buy from. Mac's gaming selection is pitiful.


Asus G51 or Force 3551 (http://www.xoticpc.com/custom-gaming-laptops-notebooks-gaming-laptops-ct-118_96_98.html), which is better?

Jack Flash
Sep 3, 2009, 08:07 PM
Asus G51 or Force 3551 (http://www.xoticpc.com/custom-gaming-laptops-notebooks-gaming-laptops-ct-118_96_98.html), which is better?

The Asus G51VX-RX05 has a faster GPU.

There are no 15.4" laptops with a more powerful GPU than the GTX 260M. Unless you want to go 17" (If you want this to be remotely portable, you don't) I would choose the Asus you began your considerations with.

gman901
Sep 3, 2009, 10:46 PM
I bought the Asus white laptop with the GTX 260M graphic card. I have Crysis, Far Cry 2, Fallout 3 and GOW running on it at the highest settings. The best way to go is to buy the MacBook model you want for productivity and light gaming and entertainment, while leaving the heavy gaming to the Asus! You won't regret your purchase and you will keep your MacBook in better condition by avoiding constant heat from gaming. I have also been playing FEAR on my Air (which plays great). For some reason, FEAR on the new ASUS stutters a lot, while Crysis runs smooth at the highest settings.

morgothaod
Sep 4, 2009, 08:43 AM
I'm still unsure about which laptop to get between the Asus and the Macbook Pro. If I do limit myself to a few porn sites, I probably won't get a virus. But then again, I don't want to deal with error messages, blue screens of death, and freezes (which may happen down the road). I'm also not knowledgeable about computers. I don't keep up with having to update drivers or whatever. With a Mac, will keeping my computer in top notch shape require less computer know how/be much easier?

With the Mac, I'll have a better notebook in the fact that is has longer battery life and its more portable. But then again, it won't play games as well and I'll have to limit the games I play because its graphics card isn't as good as the Asus and I also don't want to mess with Windows/bootcamp (even if it is for a short time).

I guess the real question that needs to be answered is:

Do I prefer peace of mind of not having a blue screen of death or an error message(s)?

or

Should I risk frustrations down the road due to possibly getting a virus, blue screen of death, and errors all for a machine that'll give me a better gaming experience?

I'm not sure yet and I need to hurry up and make my decision so I can make use of the free ipod itouch (if I choose the macbook pro).

If I choose to limit my gaming, are there any games that play well on a mac and do not need windows(no bootcamp)?

Dagless
Sep 4, 2009, 09:19 AM
You can if you want. I prefer to run games on Bootcamp for maximum performance and compatibility, but my 2006 iMac runs all the games I want (TF2, L4D). The Macbook does it even better but I don't like to run games off a laptop.

Jack Flash
Sep 4, 2009, 09:42 AM
I'm still unsure about which laptop to get between the Asus and the Macbook Pro. If I do limit myself to a few porn sites, I probably won't get a virus. But then again, I don't want to deal with error messages, blue screens of death, and freezes (which may happen down the road). I'm also not knowledgeable about computers. I don't keep up with having to update drivers or whatever. With a Mac, will keeping my computer in top notch shape require less computer know how/be much easier?

With the Mac, I'll have a better notebook in the fact that is has longer battery life and its more portable. But then again, it won't play games as well and I'll have to limit the games I play because its graphics card isn't as good as the Asus and I also don't want to mess with Windows/bootcamp (even if it is for a short time).

I guess the real question that needs to be answered is:

Do I prefer peace of mind of not having a blue screen of death or an error message(s)?

or

Should I risk frustrations down the road due to possibly getting a virus, blue screen of death, and errors all for a machine that'll give me a better gaming experience?

I'm not sure yet and I need to hurry up and make my decision so I can make use of the free ipod itouch (if I choose the macbook pro).

If I choose to limit my gaming, are there any games that play well on a mac and do not need windows(no bootcamp)?

You will have a very reliable and stable computing experience with either a Mac or a PC. You're just as likely to get a BSOD as you are a kernel panic.

Really it comes down to games. Do you want to play games? Decide there.

Richdmoore
Sep 4, 2009, 09:44 AM
Most of the "Gamers" I know of that use a Mac have switched to Console gaming rather than go the computer gaming route. I don't know your exact situation, but the mac is great for almost everything except gaming.

I use an xbox 360 for gaming (great system) and a macbook for everything else. No configuration settings to worry about like the PC games, not many bad ports as games are designed for consoles first now. It's great to just start up the system and play, voice chat in every multiplayer game, automatic game updates, and one stop shopping for DLC.

The mouse to controller transition took a week or two, but now a controller is more comfortable for me than a mouse. (I still suck on both control systems however.)

After after a few years, when the new model comes out, you just get a new console, they cost the same as a high end graphics card in a pc, and you have a completely updated system.

Mac + console might be worth a consideration, as the advantages of a Mac far outweigh a pc for every other operation except gaming, and consoles outweigh PC's in that area now (in my humble view.)

morgothaod
Sep 4, 2009, 09:55 AM
Good point, console + mac may be worth considering. The newest console that I have is PS2, perhaps I should upgrade :p. When you plan online over the console, do you experience any slowness or lag? I hate how people with better PC's always have the advantage. Also, do you pay extra to play over a console (such as having to pay monthly to use some sort of service or do you just connect to your internet connection and it costs nothing)?

Jack Flash
Sep 4, 2009, 10:01 AM
Good point, console + mac may be worth considering. The newest console that I have is PS2, perhaps I should upgrade :p. When you plan online over the console, do you experience any slowness or lag? I hate how people with better PC's always have the advantage. Also, do you pay extra to play over a console (such as having to pay monthly to use some sort of service or do you just connect to your internet connection and it costs nothing)?

Xbox Live is $50 MSRP / year. Find it elsewhere for less.

Playstation network is free, but it's not up to XBL standards.

morgothaod
Sep 4, 2009, 10:06 AM
I can find Xbox live for less? Where?

That brings me to my next question, should I buy a PS3 or Xbox 360 (my bro had an xbox 360 and a year later it quit reading his games lol)? Which has better online games? I want to play first person shooters and fighting games online.

SebZen
Sep 4, 2009, 10:27 AM
morgothaod,

I have to laugh but bravo for honesty :cool:

For porn sites, if you just google for them, stick to the first few hits (don't go farther than 5 down the list). You can be 99% sure they'll be safe. Your best bet is to go to thumbnail websites (where there's a collection of small pics as samples and you can click them to the larger collection). Those sites are updated daily and are perfectly safe.

As far as viruses on Mac from websites, I wouldn't even worry about it, really. No one goes on porn websites and uploads Mac viruses, because very few people would get hit by them. It's a waste of the hackers time.

For gaming, I'd definitely go PS3, I feel it's much better built and a better console overall. But if you like to voice chat or do a lot of communication and play with a lot of friends, 360 would be a better choice because PS3 is not up to par with the party gaming system. But having owned both, I would buy a PS3 any day over a 360.

Don't bother gaming on a Mac if you want to play new games. The 9600GT isn't bad, but even the vastly outdated 8800GT blows it out of the water, and that's already quite a few years old.

Gaming, get a PS3.
For computers, go with a Mac. I also had a custom built gaming PC up until a few months ago but I got tired of gaming (or grew out of it, not sure which) and couldn't be happier with a Mac.

Another way to go about your business is visiting http://forum.team3x.com/

There is a way to use IRC (a chat thing) to get passes for major websites for free. You just message a bot with what website you want (like bangbros, whatever) and they usually have working accounts for them. It might be a little complicated for you to set up but I'm sure you can figure it out. There are instructions for it on the website I linked.

Plutonius
Sep 4, 2009, 11:52 AM
If I choose to limit my gaming, are there any games that play well on a mac and do not need windows(no bootcamp)?

It's all subjective. Games will run better on a PC but many people find they run well enough under OSX. If you make a list of the games you are interested in, you can

1) See if there is an OSX version (Some of the older games were ported to OS9 -> not OSX).

2) See the user reviews on how playable the game is under OSX.

If a majority of the games you wish to play will not run under OSX or they will not run well under OSX, I would probably get the PC.

Otherwise, I would consider the Mac with bootcamp to run the non-OSX games you are interested in.

runebinder
Sep 4, 2009, 02:47 PM
Hi morgothaod,

the Asus with the GTX 260M looks good, but from the games you have mentioned so far, do you really need that much power? All the games you have listed aren't cutting edge and pretty old so unless you're actively looking to get into games like Crysis et al, the GTX 260M would be a bit overkill. It'd be like buying a Ferrari when it's main use if to go to the supermarket.

I agree with the Mac + Console suggestion, as the hardware specs of a given console are pretty much even, you shouldn't have crash issues etc. Best FPS game I've played on a console is Killzone 2 on the PS3, it's pretty awesome (plus if you get a PS3 you could invest in some Blu-Ray Full HD porn ;)). I'm lucky that I'm a sad git and my favourite game is FM2009 which works perfectly in OS X on my MBP lol (if anything it's got faster since installing Snow Leopard).

I've bootcamped my MBP to play the occasional game and the 9600GT manages perfectly well, plays Crysis at mid settings which is fine with me, I'll use my PC if I need more grunt, useful if I'm away from home though. Think what I'm trying to say (albeit in a meandering kinda way), is running OS X and Windows on a Mac doesn't defeat the purpose of owning one, just gives you the best of both worlds and makes it more useful. I certainly didn't have any regrets buying my MBP, absolutely love it.

Best of luck in whatever you decide on dude.

Huntn
Sep 4, 2009, 05:20 PM
What games do you play?

At this moment in time, I'm not really playing any Windows games, most of my time is taken playing WoW which I restarted last Dec. But on my MBP I've played Crysis, The Witcher, Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, Fallout 3, and others although their names elude me for the moment. I'll tell you, if my MBP can handle Crysis, average 20fps, it's competitive with straight Windows laptops. :)

Mac + console might be worth a consideration, as the advantages of a Mac far outweigh a pc for every other operation except gaming, and consoles outweigh PC's in that area now (in my humble view.)

I'd say it is a very big consideration. Buying a new mac every couple of years is hard to justify. Mostly I do prefer Mac/PC games to console, but I too have a 360 and playing split screen coop can be a lot of fun. :)

morgothaod
Sep 4, 2009, 10:19 PM
Can I use MSN Messenger on a Mac?


Another way to go about your business is visiting http://forum.team3x.com/

There is a way to use IRC (a chat thing) to get passes for major websites for free. You just message a bot with what website you want (like bangbros, whatever) and they usually have working accounts for them. It might be a little complicated for you to set up but I'm sure you can figure it out. There are instructions for it on the website I linked.

Will it get me a password for Grandma Hunters?

Ram Mac
Sep 4, 2009, 10:31 PM
I play world of warcraft on my macbook and it runs fine. I get laggy in areas but that is normal. I heard the MBP is really nice for WoW.

I also use bootcamp to play Counter Strike Source. Lags alot when I first started but it is getting better.

That is all I know :P

akm3
Sep 5, 2009, 02:11 AM
OK you know what you want and that is cool. Get a linux setup on a keydrive. You can boot from that or run it as a virtualized machine in windows. use the virtualized machine to do your browsing and you are safe.

Rodus
Sep 5, 2009, 04:29 AM
Linux is the way to go for 100% safety, IIRC there was a Mac trojan masquerading as a video codec on some porn sites a while back.

I'd also suggest that for absolute, total peace of mind that you check out the Lynx browser for your adult surfing, it is totally impossible for you to get a trojan/virus using this.

morgothaod
Sep 5, 2009, 11:04 AM
Can you guys go into more detail about how to get linux/lynx broswer set up?

Xavier
Sep 5, 2009, 02:24 PM
I play games on my MBP all the time. It is possible, and Boot Camp makes it even more enjoyable.

Miharu
Sep 5, 2009, 02:43 PM
I really couldn't hold my laugh when I read your intentions on what to use your Mac for, it's cool I think we all do that as well:rolleyes:

Nowadays Linux (some distros) is incredibly easy to install, especially Ubuntu as it has everything graphical. You simply press next next next during the install procedure. In Ubuntu Firefox comes preinstalled, but when you run it and go to a flash site for example, it tells you to download a flash plugin. Just download that and other plugins that you might need for browsing porn... You can easily install Linux side by side with Windows or another OS by partitioning your hard drive. Partitioning is quite easy as well and it does instruct you how to do it. I'd say it's your safest bet for browsing those naughty sites, as long as you keep all your personal stuff and gaming on Windows side.

Rodus
Sep 5, 2009, 04:37 PM
Download Sun's virtual machine and run Ubuntu as a guest on that (all free). Linux is easy to set up nowadays, Ubuntu will pretty much walk you through it.

Lynx can be found here (http://www.vordweb.co.uk/standards/download_lynx.htm), as I said, it's very safe :D

Gooden
Sep 6, 2009, 07:14 AM
Pc's are better for gaming. But for a laptop my MBP 13" with 4 Gb of RAM runs WoW and Css perfectly well, had no problems at all. I do use Cross Over for Css instead of bootcamp as I fix it's better. So really it's up to you! Check out codeweavers site and look at cross over games and it
should give you more information on the games it can help you run!

cryingrobot
Sep 6, 2009, 12:16 PM
I have tried every avenue as I really like an hour of FPS or Fallout 3 to wind me down at night. Yes I currently bootcamp into XP and game but I would love to be able to just open the game up in OSX. Forget virtualization.

I am just really surprised software companies have not been offering OSX ports considering how big the apple marketshare has become...10% from what I have heard? That is a significant number from a sales perspective. Is it not worth dedicating some time to make an OSX port if it means 10% potential gross revenue? Particularly with software companies lie Bethesda and Valve that seem dedicated to PC gamers.

Huntn
Sep 7, 2009, 08:20 AM
Can you guys go into more detail about how to get linux/lynx broswer set up?

Is Linux any good for gaming? Don't you need Linux versions of those PC games to run?

morgothaod
Sep 7, 2009, 11:56 AM
I went ahead and bought a mac after playing around with it for awhile at best buy. I tried playing Quake Live on it, but the furthest I got was installing the plug in. When it came to playing the game (the 10 minute trial match to assess your skills), I just saw a black square. I wonder if I installed the wrong plug in. I got it off of quake live. Did I do something wrong or can I not play that game on the Mac OS?

Miharu
Sep 8, 2009, 03:44 PM
No, the game definitely does work on Mac... Are you using Safari for it? I'll test how it works on Snow Leopard if it might be because of that.

edit: Just installed it on Safari using Snow Leopard and it seems to work flawlessly. Maybe try to install it again or restart your browser?

morgothaod
Sep 10, 2009, 08:23 AM
The mac at Best Buy had Safari on it. Maybe it had the wrong version or I didn't restart the browser properly? I'll tell you guys if I'm having any trouble installing Quake Live on my macbook. I'm waiting for it to be delivered :).

lorenwade
Sep 10, 2009, 01:08 PM
I play games on my mac all the time and prefer it. Granted, I really only play Blizzard games (which are known for same-as-pc quality for mac), but I do play all the time. I run Snow Leopard, N52te Belkin gaming pad, and a Razer death adder. Works great.

Huntn
Sep 10, 2009, 01:58 PM
I play games on my mac all the time and prefer it. Granted, I really only play Blizzard games (which are known for same-as-pc quality for mac), but I do play all the time. I run Snow Leopard, N52te Belkin gaming pad, and a Razer death adder. Works great.

Has the WoW-SL thing been fixed? Someone reported some video issues initially with Snow Leopard.

morgothaod
Sep 10, 2009, 09:14 PM
I just got my Mac and it does work :)! It plays wonderfully!

Huntn
Sep 11, 2009, 09:52 AM
I just got my Mac and it does work :)! It plays wonderfully!

Oh ye, bow down to the golden calculator and join the crowd! ;)

morgothaod
Sep 11, 2009, 10:50 AM
Oh ye, bow down to the golden calculator and join the crowd! ;)

I want to find some more free games now- mmorpg, fps, fighting

Miharu
Sep 12, 2009, 12:15 PM
You could try Wolfenstein Enemy Territory, it's free at least.