Rumors of iPhone OS 3.1 Appearing Next Week Alongside MMS from AT&T Based on Questionable Sources

[MacRumors]

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Over the past few days, a number (http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/09/03/exciting-rumor-iphone-3g-s-may-finally-get-mms-next-week/) of sites (http://www.9to5mac.com/iphone_31_soon) have been reporting a rumor that AT&T may be preparing to launch MMS for its iPhone customers alongside iPhone OS 3.1 at next week's media event (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/08/31/apple-issues-invitations-for-september-9th-media-event/). In tracing the history of this rumor, however, MacRumors finds rather questionable sources for the claim.

Many sites are pointing to Know Your Mobile (http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/iphonenews/309903/iphone_os_31_to_launch_in_september.html) as a source for the rumor. That story, however, appears to be a slight embellishment of claims made by FSMdotCOM (http://www.funkyspacemonkey.com/att-enable-mms-month) last week. FSMdotCOM's report, in turn, quotes a ModMyi user who noticed portions of MMS functionality in the iPhone OS 3.1 beta and who reportedly received word from an AT&T representative that MMS would be enabled by the end of the month in backing up a previous FSMdotCOM report (http://www.funkyspacemonkey.com/att-rumor-mms-coming-iphone-firmware-31) from early August simply claiming that MMS functionality would be coming "later this summer" after the launch of iPhone OS 3.1.

Further confusing the issue is that the follow-up FSMdotCOM report citing the ModMyi claim was made in late August, and the end of the month has come and gone with no sign of MMS on AT&T. Other sites, however, didn't pick up on the story until September, and some have misinterpreted (http://www.maclife.com/article/news/att_likely_enable_mms_end_september) the report to be claiming an end-of-September timeframe.

In essence, all of the claims seem to stem from the original FSMdotCOM report from early August that simply noted what was already known or reasonably surmised.The information i just got from my AT&T ninja , seems to be the same as "later this summer". He told me that AT&T will enable MMS for its users once the new iPhone firmware 3.1 will be released . Released date for the new firmware is not certain, all we know is that it will be released towards the end of August or early September.This is not to discount the possibility of iPhone OS 3.1 being launched next week with MMS from AT&T coming along for the ride, as it is a reasonable guess (http://www.macworld.com/article/142596/2009/09/rockn_iphone.html) based on Apple's introduction of iPhone OS 2.1 (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/09/09/iphone-2-1-firmware-coming-on-friday-bug-fixes-connectivity-and-battery-life/) at last year's event and MMS being turned on by default (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/07/01/iphone-os-3-1-features-non-destructive-video-editing-voice-control-over-bluetooth-and-more/) in iPhone OS 3.1 betas, but claims of anything more than speculation appear to based on little solid information at this time.

Article Link: Rumors of iPhone OS 3.1 Appearing Next Week Alongside MMS from AT&T Based on Questionable Sources (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/09/03/rumors-of-iphone-os-3-1-appearing-next-week-alongside-mms-from-atandt-based-on-questionable-sources/)

[aa521490]

About time.

[sellitom]

Please be true so that all of the "MMS coming to iPhone..." threads will be put to rest.

[jaw04005]

Sorry but I find it hard to believe that AT&T could ever coordinate something like the MMS roll out with Apple.

That's not something Apple or AT&T would want to hold back if it's ready. Summer doesn't end until September 22. I'll be surprised if AT&T even manages to get MMS rolled out by then. Maybe they'll have an announcement to make about MMS, but it seems like a sore subject.

[dubhe]

Not sure why the new OS is required, MMS works fine here in the UK

[O and A]

Seems untrue that 3.1 is needed. MMS works with all the other carriers and they don't have 3.1

Damn AT&T just get with it already.

[Virtualball]

Bout time, this is ridiculous. Every other country has had MMS since June... seriously, screw AT&T...

[striatedglutes]

Not sure why the new OS is required, MMS works fine here in the UK

But I most likely have an American AT&T customized software version on my phone, so MMS is disabled in the software. Unless I'm missing something...

[benlee]

MMS or not, AT&T is sooooo bad at everything--except being bad at everything; they are pretty good at that.

[zedsdead]

MMS or not, AT&T is sooooo bad at everything--except being bad at everything; they are pretty good at that.

It's really just pathetic at this point that both MMS and tethering are not available. Every year that I've had the iPhone has been getting more and more frustrating with AT&T.

[str1f3]

9to5 Mac (http://www.9to5mac.com/iphone_31_soon) says that they are hearing that Bluetooth file sharing are coming also in 3.1.

[webteeth]

I know this doesn't have much to do with the substantive parts of this article, but for the mess of information surrounding this rumour, this MacRumors article was brilliantly researched and written. Thanks.

[CaryMacGuy]

Please be true so that all of the "MMS coming to iPhone..." threads will be put to rest.

We can now just focus on the "iPhone coming to Verizon" threads :p

Seriously, it is about damn time. Also what do you think the chances of Apple bringing some software features of the 3GS (like the voice dial, accessibility, and battery percentage) to all iPhones.

[sellitom]

It's really just pathetic at this point that both MMS and tethering are not available. Every year that I've had the iPhone has been getting more and more frustrating with AT&T.

When my plan comes to an end I'd like to get that new Google phone. I am sick of AT&T pulling my chain.

[jav6454]

All this brahuha on MMS is going to end September 9. Just hold on tight.

[Cask]

Well I guess it is very likely that 3.1 will be released next week along with new iPod Touch, 2.1 was released on the same time frame if my memory serves me well. Hopefully they add some new features. My bet is that they are going to unlock the HD video playback, just like two years ago when they unlocked TV out on the original iPhone.

[miketcool]

Whoa, you guys don't have MMS? That is really, really weak.

[msa]

Without any deeper knowledge about the inner workings of the Carrier Profile, it seems like that could do lots of things. In Sweden MMS has been working since the release of 3.0. However tethering is only available with one carrier (Telia) and not with the other (Halebop) according to discussions. Let's say that AT&T simply disabled MMS in their Carrier Profile and the iPhone hides that options?

[BornAgainMac]

My theory for needing 3.1 is that it is an extra fee to get MMS and they know if they turn it on with 3.0 that people will be able to get it free. 3.1 could fix any holes of getting MMS for free.

[MikeyUSC]

Without any deeper knowledge about the inner workings of the Carrier Profile, it seems like that could do lots of things. In Sweden MMS has been working since the release of 3.0. However tethering is only available with one carrier (Telia) and not with the other (Halebop) according to discussions. Let's say that AT&T simply disabled MMS in their Carrier Profile and the iPhone hides that options?

That's exactly how it works.. so in the US it will be enabled by a new Carrier File, which will most likely (but doesn't have to be) shipped with iPhone OS 3.1

[fixmymac]

This rumour caught my eye as i received a text message from O2 this afternoon telling me to connect to iTunes for an update.

Exact wording was...

"Hello. Apple have released an important software update for your iPhone.

This will help manage data roaming abroad.

To check you've got the latest version, connect your iPhone to your computer as soon as you can. Click the 'Check for Update' button in iTunes.

For more information please visit shop.o2.co.uk/update"


No update was offered and the O2 link only mentions 3.0.1.

[irnchriz]

Sounds like these sources are just guessing. OS 3.1 has nothing to do with MMS for AT&T. Also MMS is not activated by default if it is not supported by your carrier.

Seeing as there has been no further betas for weeks now it is probably safe to presume that 3.1 will come along at the special event with the new iPod touch etc.

Again nothing to do with MMS.

[AHDuke99]

It will be announced at the media event and released September 25th. It's easy to predict Apple these days.

[sellitom]

My theory for needing 3.1 is that it is an extra fee to get MMS and they know if they turn it on with 3.0 that people will be able to get it free. 3.1 could fix any holes of getting MMS for free.

I believe MMS shall be free on iPhone, just like other phones on AT&T with messaging plans..

[NoExpectations]

You want MMS? Email the picture.

You want Tethering? Go get the free 3G Wireless card and pay for the monthly service. It won't be any cheaper on the iPhone.

They said by end of summer.....get a life.

[dlewis23]

Not sure why the new OS is required, MMS works fine here in the UK

A new OS is not required for MMS to be enabled, but a new carrier file would be. So my guess is Apple will just push them both at the same time instead of doing them separately.

They better do it before summer ends of there are going to be a lot of really pissed of people.

[SirOmega]

This might be 100% speculation, but its not that bad of a guess - the "end of summer" is approaching rapidly. If AT&T is going to deliver on time then they only have about two and a half weeks left.

[camarobh]

Date for MMS is here, more info at http://bit.ly/hb4qk. Continue the conversation on Facebook http://budurl.com/mxft

[iOrlando]

i dont even want MMS.

[LoganM]

Bout time, this is ridiculous. Every other country has had MMS since June... seriously, screw AT&T...

It seriously puzzles me why Apple would even associate with (IMO) the worst carrier known to man. They rape your wallets, jip you of key features, and all together just suck royal arse. :mad::mad::mad:

[Unspoken Demise]

/thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=779151)

[Rychiar]

its amazing how they've gotten us to want somethin we all took for granted on crap cellphones for years so badly. i mean i want this now more than any app:rolleyes:

[monkeytennis]

You mean the MMS we've had here in the UK since June? Bwa ha ha ha

[BittenApple]

Gizmodo just confirmed September 25th as the day.

http://gizmodo.com/5352010/att-launches-iphone-mms-september-25

[RyanR.]

Geee....:eek: don't they know that's the beginning of autumn, not the end of summer:rolleyes: Sept. 21, 2009 = last day of summer.

AT&T you are not smarter than a fifth grader. :p

Please don't raise my rates higher for the last comment:rolleyes:

[RiceRacerDX]

Well at least we know MMS won't happen the same day as Apple's event. So there's one day to mark off as a possibility lol.

http://smartphones.about.com/b/2009/09/01/att-denies-iphone-mms-announcement-rumors.htm

[sellitom]

You mean the MMS we've had here in the UK since June? Bwa ha ha ha

You may have MMS but we all have nice teeth.. Bwa ha ha ha

[Rychiar]

the 25TH!!!!:eek: WTF that BLOWS!!!:mad: i wa so expecting tuesday and i want it NOW! grrrr. how am i sposed to get chix to send me nudy pix when its so difficult! LOL:rolleyes:

[smileyborg]

Date for MMS is here, more info at http://bit.ly/hb4qk. Continue the conversation on Facebook http://budurl.com/mxft

Great, that will put the rumors to rest. MacRumors, please update the news item with this!

25th of September it is, then.

[CQd44]

Did they give a reason why MMS was never enabled?

[Unspoken Demise]

Geee....:eek: don't they know that's the beginning of autumn, not the end of summer:rolleyes: Sept. 21, 2009 = last day of summer.

AT&T you are not smarter than a fifth grader. :p

Please don't raise my rates higher for the last comment:rolleyes:

They're already editing your account to say you called "411" 8,340 times today.

Enjoy your next bill.

[snowpuff]

official att media kit release: http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=1574

confirmed, 9/25

[LoganM]

A new OS is not required for MMS to be enabled, but a new carrier file would be. So my guess is Apple will just push them both at the same time instead of doing them separately.

They better do it before summer ends of there are going to be a lot of really pissed of people.

Newsflash: There are already lots of pissed off people :D:D:D

[knewsom]

I bet that the firmware 3.1 will resize MMS images if you're using ATT, and that's why they're waiting - so instead of a big beautiful picture being sent like on most carriers, you'll get a pixelated little thumbnail. Thanks ATT.

[chr1s60]

All I know is that every AT&T source I have seen on these forums has ended up knowing nothing. The simple fact that it has taken AT&T almost 3 months already since the release of the 3.0 software to simply enable mms, shows how much of a horrible provider AT&T has been for it's iPhone customers. If only Apple would look past the money and realize how what a complete disaster AT&T has been.

[RangerXML]

Tethering???

EDIT: looks like no tethering yet (press release), anyone know if they are diabling tethering completely in 3.1?

[LoganM]

the 25TH!!!!:eek: WTF that BLOWS!!!:mad: i wa so expecting tuesday and i want it NOW! grrrr. how am i sposed to get chix to send me nudy pix when its so difficult! LOL:rolleyes:

Jump ship to T-Mobile :D:D:D:D:D

[CaryMacGuy]

It seriously puzzles me why Apple would even associate with (IMO) the worst carrier known to man. They rape your wallets, jip you of key features, and all together just suck royal arse. :mad::mad::mad:


Say what you want about AT&T (and I agree with most of it) but at least they don't impose their own crappy interface on devices

[sellitom]

Did they give a reason why MMS was never enabled?

"We know many of our iPhone customers are eager for an update on our rollout schedule for Multimedia Messaging Service (MMS). We’ve been working for the past several months to prepare our systems and network to ensure the best possible experience with MMS when it launches – and that launch date is: September 25 for iPhone 3G and 3GS customers. MMS will be enabled through a software update on that day.

We know that iPhone users will embrace MMS. The unique capabilities and high usage of the iPhone’s multimedia capabilities required us to work on our network MMS architecture to carry the expected record volumes of MMS traffic and ensure an excellent experience from Day One. We appreciate your patience as we work toward that end.

We’re riding the leading edge of smartphone growth that’s resulted in an explosion of traffic over the AT&T network. Wireless use on our network has grown an average of 350 percent year-over-year for the past two years, and is projected to continue at a rapid pace in 2009 and beyond. The volume of smartphone data traffic the AT&T network is handling is unmatched in the wireless industry. We want you to know that we’re working relentlessly to innovate and invest in our network to anticipate this growth in usage and to stay ahead of the anticipated growth in data demand, new devices and applications for years to come.

We thank you for your business and look forward to keeping you updated on our initiatives."

[iphones4evry1]

Keep in mind that it is September right now, and October is next month. The TomTom kit will be released next month.

[hhaeschen]

I still wonder what people use MMS for....
It works perfectly well here in Germany with T-Mobile, yet I haven't used it once.
Almost none of my friends or family members have non-email phones, so just keep sending and receiving emails for free, instead of paying a ridiculous extra amount of my hard earned bucks on MMS.

[aeaglex07]

You may have MMS but we all have nice teeth.. Bwa ha ha ha

That made me LOL

[OllyW]

It's quite amusing because when the iPhone first came out, it received a lot of criticism because it didn't have MMS. Mostly, the complaints came from the Europeans who were used to using MMS, while the defenders were from the USA who told us MMS was obsolete and to send it by email.

How come the Americans are so desperate to get MMS working now that it's featured on the iPhone? :rolleyes:

[anthonyjr]

Logic and reasoning:

The current 3.1 beta expires in 14+ days.

Apple releaes new iPods with the 3.1 software on September 9th, 6 days from now.

Still leaving 8-9 days left on the beta, I think that, like 3.0, Apple might want developers to check their apps against the final 3.1 version before they can be put into the wild.

Apple releases the 3.1 GM to developers on the 9th, and releases it to the public on the 16th.

This gives developers a week to update online before the beta expires, and only a day or two to update after the public release (for those who are using the 3.1 beta without a connection to a developer "anymore").

This also gives AT&T a week to work out kinks while there is a small userbase that will provide feedback.

I was actually thinking about this all last night, and I figured I'd see some speculation here soon.

[str1f3]

I still wonder what people use MMS for....
It works perfectly well here in Germany with T-Mobile, yet I haven't used it once.
Almost none of my friends or family members have non-email phones, so just keep sending and receiving emails for free, instead of paying a ridiculous extra amount of my hard earned bucks on MMS.

It's quite amusing because when the iPhone first came out, it received a lot of criticism because it didn't have MMS. Mostly, the complaints came from the Europeans who were used to using MMS, while the defenders were from the USA who told us MMS was obsolete and to send it by email.

How come the Americans are so desperate to get MMS working now that it's featured on the iPhone? :rolleyes:

MMS in the US is included with your SMS plan at no extra cost. Many people would use this feature. It is a free upgrade to your SMS plan if you have one.

[iphones4evry1]

.
Didn't Apple already say it's only going to be music at the media event?

http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/08/31/122143-apple_media_event_500.jpg

It would be cool if iPod Touch users could send SMS and MMS from WiFi. :cool:

[LoganM]

I bet that the firmware 3.1 will resize MMS images if you're using ATT, and that's why they're waiting - so instead of a big beautiful picture being sent like on most carriers, you'll get a pixelated little thumbnail. Thanks ATT.

T-Mobile does this as well, so this is nothing new.

[tk421]

I know this doesn't have much to do with the substantive parts of this article, but for the mess of information surrounding this rumour, this MacRumors article was brilliantly researched and written. Thanks.

Ditto. MacRumors is awesome!

[jameskk]

Sept. 25!!!! It's official:

Press Release:

http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=1574

[nagromme]

As always, MR's own exclusive sources are not the main value of the site: the main value is MR's ability to judge OTHER sources and know what's credible and what isn't. Thanks for tracking this down.

[smegma11]

That's exactly how it works.. so in the US it will be enabled by a new Carrier File, which will most likely (but doesn't have to be) shipped with iPhone OS 3.1

first, it was they had to change the opt out codes, well, we all did that when we got our new 3gs phones, now it's the new ipcc file. Well I've had 5.21 carrier file and beta 3.1 Firmware for a month, and I still don't haver MMS.
At&T has got to flip that switch to ON and then hope their system doesn't crash. This will be their last chance to prove they are a major player in the business or just being dragged around on Apples coat tails.
If they blow this it's gonna iPhones for any carrier next. You'll know Sept 28th whether to sell off your ATT stock or not.

[str1f3]

Sept. 25!!!! It's official:

Press Release:

http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=1574

w00t! w00t! holla! holla!

[LoganM]

It would be cool if iPod Touch users could send SMS and MMS from WiFi. :cool:

Agreed, perhaps some carrier could start the trend of connecting accounts through the net for that purpose. That way, iPod users can have some of the functionality they've been missing/longing for, and still have the much-more-outstanding processing speed for the apps. IMO...iPod Touch 2G processors pwns iPhone processors of any model. Just a thought. :p

[scottnj1966]

Not sure why the new OS is required, MMS works fine here in the UK

Because here in the US the option of mms is not even shown on our phones.
So an update has to be added to turn the feature back on.

[chr1s60]

Sept. 25!!!! It's official:

Press Release:

http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=1574

Another FAIL from AT&T. Sept. 25 is no longer Summer. I wish we were able to tell them we would pay our bills "later this month" and not have my service interrupted so they could see what it is like to have to keep waiting and guessing.

[sdragon]

The current 3.1 beta expires in 14+ days.

Where'd you get this number from?

[MacCheetah3]

Hi
Not sure why the new OS is required, MMS works fine here in the UK
But I most likely have an American AT&T customized software version on my phone, so MMS is disabled in the software. Unless I'm missing something...
It's not the OS that needs to be modified. It is on AT&T's end ( customer account settings ) and the carrier support files ( Mac-->Users-->username-->Library-->iTunes-->iPhone Carrier Support-->ATT_US.ipcc ) the iPhone uses. Right now the iPhone reports the carrier ( iPhone-->Settings-->General-->About ) as AT&T 4.0. Those who hack their iPhones to work with MMS / tethering on AT&T have the iPhone report the carrier as AT&T 5.0.

[vilasgn]

In the recent times I am seeing a lot of + questionable (fillers) articles on Macrumors.

Earlier MR used to have decent and worthy articles but nowadays it has become "Gizmodo of techblogs" (Read factory of crap articles).

May be web traffic is going down on MR?

Just a thought. :rolleyes:

[Scottsdale]

It's really just pathetic at this point that both MMS and tethering are not available. Every year that I've had the iPhone has been getting more and more frustrating with AT&T.

If the rumors are true, we will be on Verizon's network next year. I will sell my 3GS and pay the AT&T cancellation fee the very day there is an iPhone available on the Verizon network. I am so sick of and disgusted by AT&T that I will pay any amount to be done with them and still be using an iPhone that isn't jailbroken or hacked.

Of all of the rumors about Apple products...

iTablet
iPod Cameras
Carbon Fiber MBA Cases to Reduce Weight
30" LED ACD
New AppleTV
Apple Televisions
Mac Media Server
iPhone Nano
Blu Ray
Arrandale
OLED Displays
iPhone Tethering
iPhone MMS
3G Cards Built-In to Macs
etc etc etc

... I most hope the iPhone is on the Verizon Network in less than a year.

I suspect there are many people out there that will do the exact same thing as me. Cancellation fees will be AT&T's saving face to losing all the iPhone accounts. Think of all the money AT&T will make recovering its up front costs of gaining subscribers in the first place.

I would bet that when we dump our AT&T iPhones the people buying them on eBay and Craig's List will be jail breaking them on T-Mobile and NOT connecting them back on AT&T's network. Meaning that once we leave AT&T our accounts will never be recovered by AT&T.

I really really look forward to the iPhone on the Verizon Network. Anyone else out there sick of AT&T and its B.S.?

[scottnj1966]

[QUOTE=NoExpectations;8413242]You want MMS? Email the picture.

Yes that works but it is a pain and it sometimes does not even work. The other person never gets it.
ATT has a mess of a network and hopefully one day they will get thru it all so it works seemlessly...hahahaha. I'm sorry I cant see them ever getting it right.

[iphones4evry1]

Agreed, perhaps some carrier could start the trend of connecting accounts through the net for that purpose. That way, iPod users can have some of the functionality they've been missing/longing for, and still have the much-more-outstanding processing speed for the apps. IMO...iPod Touch 2G processors pwns iPhone processors of any model. Just a thought. :p

On second thought, it would have to be restricted to iPod-to-iPod, because AT&T would not want billions of iPods to be sending MMS to iPhones that would used 3G bandwidth.

[runnerboy516]

This was just released on Yahoo Finance:


NEW YORK (AP) -- AT&T says the latest iPhone models will finally get the ability to send picture and video messages to other phones on Sept. 25.

Apple Inc.'s popular phone has lacked the ability to send messages using MMS, or Multimedia Messaging Service, since the first model launched in 2007.

The original model still won't be able to send MMS. Its users will have to keep sending pictures in e-mail. The new feature applies to the 3G model, launched last year, and the 3GS, launched this year.

A software update this summer prepared the latest phones for MMS, but AT&T, the sole iPhone carrier in the U.S., held off on enabling the feature to make sure its network could handle the traffic.



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ATT-says-iPhone-to-get-apf-150587638.html?x=0

[cal6n]

Just in case there was any doubt:

The carrier will switch on the feature as of September 25th through a software upgrade for iPhone 3G and 3GS owners. Adding the feature will let those running iPhone 3.0 or later firmware send photos, videos and general data like contact cards to any MMS-aware phone.

This has nothing to do with OS 3.1. It'll probably just be a carrier file.

[scottnj1966]

It's quite amusing because when the iPhone first came out, it received a lot of criticism because it didn't have MMS. Mostly, the complaints came from the Europeans who were used to using MMS, while the defenders were from the USA who told us MMS was obsolete and to send it by email.

How come the Americans are so desperate to get MMS working now that it's featured on the iPhone? :rolleyes:

Just because you hear the loudest people in a group does not mean you hear what a group really wants.
Everyone I know with an iphone has always wanted what a normal cell phone already had.

[MacCheetah3]

Hi
It seriously puzzles me why Apple would even associate with (IMO) the worst carrier known to man. They rape your wallets, jip you of key features, and all together just suck royal arse. :mad::mad::mad:
While there are definitely times where I just give a puzzled "REALLY!?!" response to AT&T related services, don't brainwash yourself quite yet. Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, etc will 'milk' you just as much. Verizon most certainly cripples the features on their phones ( Bluetooth is a big complaint ) and they add their buggy and bloated 'skin' to the OS on some phones. There are certainly reasonable complaints but let's not go overboard with finger pointing and shoving.

[MacCheetah3]

Hi
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=1574

Confirmed ( 25th ). I can hear those lawyers just yelling at their secretaries and assistants to get the word out to start the class action suit train.

I'm glad there is finally an official date and 3 days later than AT&T promised isn't TOO bad but still a disappointment.

[casik]

You want MMS? Email the picture.

You want Tethering? Go get the free 3G Wireless card and pay for the monthly service. It won't be any cheaper on the iPhone.

They said by end of summer.....get a life.


Seriously?

What if you need to send an image to someone whose email you don't have?

What if you already have an sweet data plan on your iPhone? that isn't available on your 3g wireless card?

Keep in mind i'm not even in the states. I live in Canada where we have had tethering and MMS since the 3GS was released. Look past your own usage and see why other people might want these features.

I still can't believe it has taken so long for AT&T tho.... kinda silly

[Watabou]

Geez about time. My whole iPhone became so slow after 3.0. I thought it was jailbreaking that did it but een after I restored it was slow. I have keyboard lag and the messages app takes 7 seconds to load up fully.

[dubhe]

Anybody with a UK (MMS enabled) phone sent a pic whilst roaming in the US on AT&T?

[supremedesigner]

Sorry but I find it hard to believe that AT&T could ever coordinate something like the MMS roll out with Apple.

That's not something Apple or AT&T would want to hold back if it's ready. Summer doesn't end until September 22. I'll be surprised if AT&T even manages to get MMS rolled out by then. Maybe they'll have an announcement to make about MMS, but it seems like a sore subject.

I have a theory about this - I think ATT actually delayed the MMS and Tethering by few more months on purpose because I think next year, they will no longer be exclusive for iPhone. So two years from now on, ATT will enjoy few more months of iPhone subscriptions before customers depart ATT for other carriers when their contract is up by Sept 25th 2011. I hope I make sense on this one.

[mattwolfmatt]

Wow, that rumor didn't take long to debunk. About an hour.

[twoodcc]

looking forward to next week for sure!

[severe]

MMS or not, AT&T is sooooo bad at everything--except being bad at everything; they are pretty good at that.

ha!

[BeyondtheTech]

Tethering???

EDIT: looks like no tethering yet (press release), anyone know if they are diabling tethering completely in 3.1?

Considering that there are reports that subsequent betas of 3.1 killed the hacked tethering (can't enable from http://help.benm.at/help), I would surmise it's a goner.

I don't care for MMS and I can deal with the quirks of 3.0.1...

[krnageskillz]

MMS is present in the iPhone 3.0 update as I've had MMS capabilities since the 3.0 software on the mobile network Vodafone in Australia.

I've also had legit (no hacking needed) data tethering since around the same time.

[sallyfingers]

An AT&T Rep told me they (the AT&T reps) got word today, 9/3, that the update wasn’t going to be released until 9/25. At least picture messaging won’t be out until then. That doesn’t mean that 3.1 isn’t coming out until then. They may release 3.1 yet and still without MMS and Tethering if they release before then. AT&T can release a carrier update later on in the month. I am sick of waiting. I hope AT&T loses exclusivity to the iPhone. I want Verizon.

[uberamd]

It's really just pathetic at this point that both MMS and tethering are not available. Every year that I've had the iPhone has been getting more and more frustrating with AT&T.

You purchased a phone from AT&T knowing full well that MMS and tethering wouldn't be available, yet are getting frustrated with AT&T about it? That makes sense.

Based on your logic, I guess I'm frustrated because my Ford Escape doesn't have a V8 engine in it even though I purchased it with a V6. I am becoming more and more frustrated with Ford because of this.

[zen]

Here's hoping that 3.1 - whenever it is released - fixes the iPod touch speaker/sound problem (when undocking or after using headphones, the internal speaker isn't recognised, so you need to restart completely to get it working - annoying when you use a dock and headphones every day and also use the device as an alarm clock!).

[Bjohnson33]

It's really just pathetic at this point that both MMS and tethering are not available. Every year that I've had the iPhone has been getting more and more frustrating with AT&T.

Their exclusivity deal has to come to an end sometime. It will be interesting to see how many people jump ship from AT&T when given the option. It really seems like they've blown some excellent opportunities with the iPhone.

[vassillios]

As long as 3.1 fixes safari i'll be happy. I'm tired of safari constantly refreshing when switching between pages.

[pubwvj]

I would like to see a 3.1 upgrade. There were so many bug reports with 3.0 that I have not upgraded ours.

[Bregalad]

I would find it very strange for Apple to release a brand new iPod touch running 3.0 so either the touch is going to be announced, but not actually available for a few weeks, or 3.1 is shipping Wednesday.

Asking purchasers to pay for an update to a product that's only a month old is not acceptable.

I, for one, will hold back my touch purchase until it ships with 3.1.

[pubwvj]

Asking purchasers to pay for an update to a product that's only a month old is not acceptable.

They've done that to me twice.

[rdowns]

Their exclusivity deal has to come to an end sometime. It will be interesting to see how many people jump ship from AT&T when given the option. It really seems like they've blown some excellent opportunities with the iPhone.


I wouldn't be holding out for the agreement to end next year. Both companies have too much invested in this and no other carrier will give Apple such a sweet subsidy on each phone sold (reported to be $400). The other carriers see how much more bandwidth iPhone users use and may not want to take them on.

[Michael-Toon]

I would like to see a 3.1 upgrade
I havent read the whole thread but i have had 3.1 for about 2 weeks and was able to get it at least a week before that.
Cant say there is any real difference on UK o2 handsets.

[MacGiver]

I still wonder what people use MMS for....
It works perfectly well here in Germany with T-Mobile, yet I haven't used it once.
Almost none of my friends or family members have non-email phones, so just keep sending and receiving emails for free, instead of paying a ridiculous extra amount of my hard earned bucks on MMS.

LOL, this is so true...same here in France...It works since June and I have only used that function once...but it is good to know I can MMS anytime, even if i don't...It is like when you live near the beach...you like the fact it is around I but you never go there.
X

[hsotnicam8002]

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/09/03/rumors-of-iphone-os-3-1-appearing-next-week-alongside-mms-from-atandt-based-on-questionable-sources/)

Over the past few days, a number (http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/09/03/exciting-rumor-iphone-3g-s-may-finally-get-mms-next-week/) of sites (http://www.9to5mac.com/iphone_31_soon) have been reporting a rumor that AT&T may be preparing to launch MMS for its iPhone customers alongside iPhone OS 3.1 at next week's media event (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/08/31/apple-issues-invitations-for-september-9th-media-event/). In tracing the history of this rumor, however, MacRumors finds rather questionable sources for the claim.

Many sites are pointing to Know Your Mobile (http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/iphonenews/309903/iphone_os_31_to_launch_in_september.html) as a source for the rumor. That story, however, appears to be a slight embellishment of claims made by FSMdotCOM (http://www.funkyspacemonkey.com/att-enable-mms-month) last week. FSMdotCOM's report, in turn, quotes a ModMyi user who noticed portions of MMS functionality in the iPhone OS 3.1 beta and who reportedly received word from an AT&T representative that MMS would be enabled by the end of the month in backing up a previous FSMdotCOM report (http://www.funkyspacemonkey.com/att-rumor-mms-coming-iphone-firmware-31) from early August simply claiming that MMS functionality would be coming "later this summer" after the launch of iPhone OS 3.1.

Further confusing the issue is that the follow-up FSMdotCOM report citing the ModMyi claim was made in late August, and the end of the month has come and gone with no sign of MMS on AT&T. Other sites, however, didn't pick up on the story until September, and some have misinterpreted (http://www.maclife.com/article/news/att_likely_enable_mms_end_september) the report to be claiming an end-of-September timeframe.

In essence, all of the claims seem to stem from the original FSMdotCOM report from early August that simply noted what was already known or reasonably surmised.This is not to discount the possibility of iPhone OS 3.1 being launched next week with MMS from AT&T coming along for the ride, as it is a reasonable guess (http://www.macworld.com/article/142596/2009/09/rockn_iphone.html) based on Apple's introduction of iPhone OS 2.1 (http://www.macrumors.com/2008/09/09/iphone-2-1-firmware-coming-on-friday-bug-fixes-connectivity-and-battery-life/) at last year's event and MMS being turned on by default (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/07/01/iphone-os-3-1-features-non-destructive-video-editing-voice-control-over-bluetooth-and-more/) in iPhone OS 3.1 betas, but claims of anything more than speculation appear to based on little solid information at this time.

Article Link: Rumors of iPhone OS 3.1 Appearing Next Week Alongside MMS from AT&T Based on Questionable Sources (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/09/03/rumors-of-iphone-os-3-1-appearing-next-week-alongside-mms-from-atandt-based-on-questionable-sources/)OS 3.01 can do MMS on O2. So OS 3.1 is not needed? It just seems to be AT&T that is the problem.

BTW MMS on the iPhone is rubbish. For years I have been using animated gif together with music in MMS's on the most crappy phones. Still the iPhone can only do the most rudimentary MMS. As a phone the iPhone still sucks. :mad: Thankfully it is much more than a phone. :D(But where is that Flash? :confused:)

[gwilli]

I can't see 3.1 coming out any time soon, I had a ton of problems with it on my iPhone 3G, 3GS isn't so bad.

[MorphingDragon]

Anybody with a UK (MMS enabled) phone sent a pic whilst roaming in the US on AT&T?

While roaming you're at the Whim of the roaming company. But I believe some phones let your decide your business depending on the company of origin. IE: my 2degrees card will let me roam on T-Mobile and AT&T.