AT&T Announces iPhone MMS Launch Date: September 25

[vilim12]

There it works on 3G also, not trying to start **** with you just trying to prove to you that I do have it working.

[igazza]

i got all excited about MMS in 3.0 and found ive used it twice

[Peace]

There it works on 3G also, not trying to start **** with you just trying to prove to you that I do have it working.

It's quit possible that it works in select areas of the country but it's not working on all 3.1 iPhones.

And I'm guessing you live in one of the areas that AT&T said they had upgraded their networks in on the east coast?

[vilim12]

It's quit possible that it works in select areas of the country but it's not working on all 3.1 iPhones.

Possibly, im in Florida. Are you running Beta 3?

[djinn]

So basically Sept 25th is D-Day for AT&T Network.

[Peace]

Possibly, im in Florida. Are you running Beta 3?

What do you think ? :rolleyes:

[vilim12]

What do you think ? :rolleyes:

Well I guess you are, but im just looking for reasons as to why mine will send/receive and yours wont.

[FelixDerKater]

Class action suit anyone?

[satcomer]

So basically Sept 25th is D-Day for AT&T Network.

We should start a movement for every iPhone owner in the States to send a picture message to another MacRumors friend overseas. Lets figure out a GMT Time so we can do it all at once.

I say at 1500 GMT (figure out your local time) we all send a simple picture to another friend (overseas if you do it). We can crash AT&T and give them such bad PR Apple will dump them ASAP.

Anyone else game?

[2000m]

blibity blah blah bibity blibty blah

[MrM]

Class action suit anyone?

According to your contract, you can't.

[kornyboy]

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This is nice. I'm glad to hear that it won't cost anything extra.

[giairborne]

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Did anyone notice that the lady in the picture is using a first gen iPhone. I thought that MMS is for 3G & 3GS

[iZoom P5]

If I were AT&T, I would have waited until after the Apple event next week to break the bad news. Now Jobs and Co have ample time to squeeze in a joke or two already. It certainly doesn't help that lawsuit going on.

[Peace]

Well I guess you are, but im just looking for reasons as to why mine will send/receive and yours wont.


I already told you. You are in an area that AT&T is using to test the MMS capabilities.

[CharBroiled20s]

Oh god no....now what are we supposed to complain about? Someone better come up with something good in the next 22 days.

I think I'll stick with HORRID 3g coverage & repeated dropped calls as my staple complaints :p

if they ever fix those... Idk what I'd have left!

Oh wait! There's always the bill!!!

[yearbooknerd]

i love the fact that the pic has the girl using the first version of the Iphone which will not be able to take advantage of MMS

[Jethrotoe]

I can tether now with the quick fix from benm. If this upgrade (what ever kind it is) stops me from tethering, I can do without MMS. Tethering is much more important to me.

Does anyone know yet if I would still be able to tether after this MMS upgrade?
3G 16Gig 3.0

[skellener]

All you need is to put a minor change into the carrier file on the phone, no change to the OS at all, and it will be enabled. Along with tethering. Takes all of 30 seconds to change the file and then you will have the ability to do this yourself. Google is your friend.Yup, my brother and another friend did it and it works just fine. I was going to do it for tethering. I could give a **** about MMS. Why pay for it when you can use email or IM?

[camarobh]

I don't know why everybody believes that Verizon is so much better than AT&T. If I remember correctly, Verizon turned down the iPhone. Without AT&T, who agreed to offer the iPhone, who knows where the iPhone would be. I realize that in some areas the AT&T coverage sucks. I realize that AT&T is a couple of days late from meeting their "late summer" promise for MMS. If you don't like it, stop complaining and leave AT&T. And by the way, enjoy your crippled iPhone with the Verizon app store if they ever do carry the iPhone. The grass isn't always greener.....

[bretm]

Class action suit anyone?

and your damages are? And the lawyers cut of the damages will be?

[Jethrotoe]

I don't know why everybody believes that Verizon is so much better than AT&T. If I remember correctly, Verizon turned down the iPhone. Without AT&T, who agreed to offer the iPhone, who knows where the iPhone would be. I realize that in some areas the AT&T coverage sucks. I realize that AT&T is a couple of days late from meeting their "late summer" promise for MMS. If you don't like it, stop complaining and leave AT&T. And by the way, enjoy your crippled iPhone with the Verizon app store if they ever do carry the iPhone. The grass isn't always greener.....

I had Verizon for years, the grass is not greener.
I travel up and down the east coast and the coverage is just about the same for me. All this crap about being a couple of days late??? Get a life already.

[EarthDawn]

Im just waiting for it to turn out to be Sept. 25th, 2010 :rolleyes:

[Malarkey]

Just like healthcare, other countries got it right, we got it wrong. America: a land of suckers.

[justiny]

Consumer Reports have consistently rated Verizon one of the top wireless networks across several different US cities, while AT&T has been rated toward the bottom. While CDMA is a dying technology, it is very reliable and it's frequencies penetrate buildings better. I was with Sprint for seven years before switching for the iPhone. The dropped calls aren't enough to make me give up the iPhone, but I definitely notice a difference of network quality between CDMA and GSM.

[joueboy]

AT&T thanks but no thank you! It's too late! I'll just use email, twitter, facebook or mobileme to share my images. If you cannot access those images I shared check it later with your computer. If you want to keep up with me buy yourself an iPhone now we're talking. Sarcasm...

[strike1555]

There's no words to describe the epic fail.

AT&T, I spit thy name and the taste left in my mouth is rancid and sickening.

[michael31986]

ok i get that everyone is mad, because its 3 days after end of summer, but in all honesty. i doubt AtT does it on purpose and i agree if Verizon gets the iPHone i guarantee they will **** it up with their ****** os that they use on all their phones. and verizon does not work in all overseas countries like att does.

[Lershac]

Oh god no....now what are we supposed to complain about? Someone better come up with something good in the next 22 days.


how about some damn tethering?

[ThomasJL]

Wow, MMS! Welcome to 2002!

[rtdunham]

We should start a movement for every iPhone owner in the States to send a picture message to another MacRumors friend overseas. Lets figure out a GMT Time so we can do it all at once.

I say at 1500 GMT (figure out your local time) we all send a simple picture to another friend (overseas if you do it). We can crash AT&T and give them such bad PR Apple will dump them ASAP.

Anyone else game?

did you think that up after peeing in the coffee cup of that middle-school teacher you don't like, and before spitting on that food at the burger joint you work at? Please re-think your response. :)

[ntrigue]

The entire ordeal is atrocious. I bought an iPhone in July that could tether, send MMS, and run at 7.2 on 3G. Nothing has been delivered that the S promised.

[Stately]

AT&T =======FAIL



...still

LOL, I concur.

[Mr. Giver '94]

It makes me LOL that AT&T shows a 1st gen iPhone in their announcement......


Call me...or MMS me ;).... when they do something good...

[Stately]

how about some damn tethering?

Lol, for what, an extra $60 a month? What a shame At&t, you have done iphoner's dirty.

[MacTheSpoon]

Man, does AT&T suck. Took them long enough. Thing is, I almost don't want them to roll it out now, because their network service is so crappy as it is. I was reading today's NY Times article about how pissed iPhone users are about their shoddy network... count me in. Why am I paying for this data plan when I can't connect 50% of the time? My contract is up and I am on the verge of getting a dumbphone on Verizon instead. As cool as the iPhone is, having AT&T as the carrier is crippling it.

[WannaGoMac]

Because they have nothing better to do with their time then bitch about AT&T, tethering, MMS, smudges on their phones, Apple's app store, etc.

LOL, exactly. Geesh, MMS ooh 1999 high tech!

Because a majority of my friends do not have smartphones, and occasionally send me a picture of something interesting or funny, which never makes it to my phone, nor does a notification. ViewMyMessage.com hasn't worked since I got my 3Gs, so people are sending me messages that I'm not getting and wondering why I don't respond.

And email just wont suffice. Viewing on those 1" wide screens makes for a great pic experience right? :P

[Michael CM1]

Wow, that's a relief.

Seriously, I'd rather see AT&T allow it's DSL subscribers to send messages without that ancient CWMX server that is probably two hamsters and an albino monkey. Google's outgoing server is a bazillion times faster and I don't ever give them a dime.

[Daveoc64]

and email just wont suffice. Viewing on those 1" wide screens makes for a great pic experience right? :P

It's a lot better than not seeing a picture at all!

[Full of Win]

I think this is a great idea. Lets all break AT&T's network AT&T D-Day (http://bit.ly/HoWPD)

How about I keep I-heart-radio on all day over EDGE. Will that help? :)

Anything to screw over ATT!

[roscoe]

How funny, and not surprising coming from AT&T. Has anyone noticed that the photo of the girl in the MMS press release from AT&T is holding a 2G/1st gen iPhone??? For a announcement of MMS??? the 1st gen iPhone is not and will not be capable of MMS, only the 3G and the 3GS. What dumb asses.

[jlwillia]

Thank you Apple and/or AT&T gods. Not for MMS, but for the fact that people can no longer complain about this. Seriously, I boycotted these forums for this reason alone. MMS is just an added bonus at this point.

[Golfer00ksu]

MMS long overdue.

However, my coverage and service with AT&T has been spot on since I switched from T-Mobile over a year and half ago.

With experience being on Sprint and the latter two.. At&t wins hands down.

My only complaint are the ridiculous text messaging plans. 200 or 1500, what the hell. Now that is shady..

[bradl]

Multiquote overload! You've been warned! ;)

+1

Not that it would have helped me much out west in the US. I don't know about anyone else, but the 3G/Edge data service in Las Vegas, NV was absolutely atrocious! Though voice service seemed ok, and I always had indication of strong signals, I was lucky if I could send or receive data 1/4 of the time I spent there recently on vacation.

By the way, 2 different, 3G family iPhones both exhibited the exact same awful data services out there. The phones worked fine back home here in New England. :( It seems to me AT&T has a long way to go before they can be touted as a serious data network provider.

I disagree. Especially with living in Las Vegas, I have never had a problem with 3G or Edge service, all the way down to Kingman, AZ and Laughlin (hour and a half drive south), All the way down I-15 to the LA Basin, I-15 up to Cedar City, UT (2 hours drive northeast), and Indian Springs (45 minutes Northwest). 3G solid in every direction into and out of Las Vegas, and I live in the northwestern part of town, slapped next to Lone Mountain. You'd think I'd lose coverage next to that, but I have full bars in my apartment.

That won't work (GSM phone on a CDMA network). The only other national US carrier is T-Mobile. Do any of the smaller carriers use GSM?

A couple of them still do (US Cellular is one), but they're smaller and hopefully won't be fading away. They may be like a MetroPCS; service only good for the city you're in, and when you leave that city, your plan is no good. Nationwide, it's ATT and T-Mobile.

"MMS will be enabled through a software update on that day." --Does this imply that the OS 3.1 Update will be available on Sept.25? Maybe. We will probably learn about this during Apple's Media Event. MMS is "Media."


This won't have anything to do with an OS update. A new carrier file will come out, as this doesn't affect any other carrier.

Hey! That's not late summer!:mad: I wonder if when we will see tethering? Winter of 09?

Wah. get over it. Be happy that you're getting it.

Bloody hell. Complain that you don't have it, and when it comes, complain about it not being when YOU want it. Fail.

It's too late AT&T. As soon as the iPhone switches carries, so will I.


Do us all a favour. Save yourself, your money and our bandwidth and get off ATT Now. If you don't like the service, leave it. No-one forced you to be with ATT.

To be fair, move all those iPhone users to any OTHER single US network, and it too would begin to fail--especially the data network, but maybe MMS too, if iPhone users find the features easier and thus send more MMS messages than other people. Plus it's just a lot of people, period.

I despise AT&T, to be sure, but "every other" carrier wouldn't have been trouble-free either. Something would be bound to go wrong (in the US anyway :o ).

Finally, a post with some sense. The same thing would happen with just about any other carrier, especially for as much land as we have and have to cover. Data or no, this is a huge undertaking by ATT just to have the iPhone (as would Verizon if they hadn't turned it down).

Any network would fall under this load, especially given the popularity the iPhone has.

I don't know why everybody believes that Verizon is so much better than AT&T. If I remember correctly, Verizon turned down the iPhone. Without AT&T, who agreed to offer the iPhone, who knows where the iPhone would be. I realize that in some areas the AT&T coverage sucks. I realize that AT&T is a couple of days late from meeting their "late summer" promise for MMS. If you don't like it, stop complaining and leave AT&T. And by the way, enjoy your crippled iPhone with the Verizon app store if they ever do carry the iPhone. The grass isn't always greener.....

+2^1024

Consumer Reports have consistently rated Verizon one of the top wireless networks across several different US cities, while AT&T has been rated toward the bottom. While CDMA is a dying technology, it is very reliable and it's frequencies penetrate buildings better. I was with Sprint for seven years before switching for the iPhone. The dropped calls aren't enough to make me give up the iPhone, but I definitely notice a difference of network quality between CDMA and GSM.

I first visited my SO in Sacramento from Las Vegas in 2003. I was with ATT at the time, having just moved from Sprint (Sprint at that time had a HUGE hold on Vegas; everything there was Sprint, or nothing at all). She and her roommate had both just purchased Verizon phones. Verizon taunted that they had the best network in the Bay area, plus up the I-80 corridor to Reno at the time...

.. yet on multiple occasions with their CDMA phones, she could turn one way, and would drop calls. Sneezed? call drops. Take one step? dropped calls. This was with 4 different phones in a 30 day period. The following month, they switched to Cingular and hadn't had a problem since.

Verizon blowz goatz. If you could, please cite which cities they did this 'test' in. Odds are they are all on the East Coast, where they bought all of the existing lines and services from Bell Atlantic North, Bell Atlantic South, and Ameritech.

I find it funny that people complain about not having it, then complain that when they get it, it isn't when they want it, and we wonder why people are sick and broke, wanting their instant gratification from everything...

BL.

[Wakakanada]

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This is nice. I'm glad to hear that it won't cost anything extra.

I was excited when MMS came to Canadian iPhones a few months ago...til I learned that despite paying $30/month for 6GB of data, and more for unlimited text messages, I would have to pay ANOTHER $0.50 per MMS message...thanks but no thanks :(

too bad as MMS would have been a great feature! If you in the US get it included in your plans count yourselves very lucky.

[AidenShaw]

Verizon blowz goatz.

YMMV

On the peninsula, my Verizon coverage is superb.

The only problem I have is understanding calls from friends/colleagues who have Iphones - the voice quality is horrible.

"Can you hear me now?"
"What?"

"Can you hear me now?"
"What?"

"Can you hear me now?"
"What?"

"Can you hear me now?"
"What?"

"Can you hear me now?"
"What?"

"Can you hear me now?"
"What?"

[Rot'nApple]

OH THANK GOD!
Its finally over.
But they technically are doing it in Fall.
Here comes the anger.
*Ducks.*

EDIT: You mean the 25th, right?

And AT&T was worrying about bandwidth use before, so they release a cool feature MMS just as all the college students start going back to school and all the high schoolers are all now back to create mischief, and now have the ability to send for all of posterity! :D

[sixth]

You guys that are bashing AT&T have no clue what it takes to maintain a wireless network like at&ts. I don't work for them, but I work in the 'industry' at the network level. The changes that were needed in the network architecture to cover the addition use was needed; mostly in the switching and routing department to handle the load of burst packets over the protocol for mms. Do some research on how mms works. It's not just a text, it's alot more, and they wanted to make sure it's solid before opening on the flood gates.

[justiny]

.. yet on multiple occasions with their CDMA phones, she could turn one way, and would drop calls. Sneezed? call drops. Take one step? dropped calls. This was with 4 different phones in a 30 day period. The following month, they switched to Cingular and hadn't had a problem since.

Verizon blowz goatz. If you could, please cite which cities they did this 'test' in. Odds are they are all on the East Coast, where they bought all of the existing lines and services from Bell Atlantic North, Bell Atlantic South, and Ameritech.

BL.

I should have ended my post with YMMV, I apologize.

All carriers have dead spots. And I'm in no way stating that Verizon is king... I've never once been a Verizon customer, so I have no way of personally knowing their strengths and weaknesses. AT&T has awesome coverage in Salt Lake City where I have family and visit quite often. I remember being in the mountains with my brother (Sprint, no signal) and I was streaming audio from a baseball game on EDGE at elevation 7,700 ft (elevation stat courtesy of MotionX GPS app :) ).

I also should correctly state that Consumer Reports' article on U.S. carriers wasn't a 'test', but rather surveys submitted from carrier customers asking them for input on network strength, call quality, customer service, etc. I wouldn't define it as scientific by any stretch, much like thread replies on MR.

CR is a subscription service, and I'm at work right now so give me a little time to compile that list of cities and their results.

[MNTwinsFan]

Just my opinion:

When at&t was allowing BlackBerry customers MMS. They new they had to turn on iPhone MMS soon.:)

[ilogic]

I wouldn't be so harsh about this news naturally but att is expensive, and frankly I'm not impressed.:apple:

[justiny]

If you could, please cite which cities they did this 'test' in.
BL.

CR is a subscription service, and I'm at work right now so give me a little time to compile that list of cities and their results.

I have to respect the UA and therefor cannot cite that information for the reasons below, but for a fee you can read up on it. It's all there for everyone to see.

Again, it is not based on a 'test' but rather submitted surveys of U.S. mobile carrier quality.

Consumer Reports (Consumers Union) User Agreement

You may not download, display, reproduce, create derivative works from, transmit, sell, distribute, or in any way exploit the Site or any portion thereof, including without limitation our product reviews and ratings and those product reviews and ratings posted by other subscribers, for any public and/or commercial use without the prior written permission of CU.

[JForestZ34]

You guys that are bashing AT&T have no clue what it takes to maintain a wireless network like at&ts. I don't work for them, but I work in the 'industry' at the network level. The changes that were needed in the network architecture to cover the addition use was needed; mostly in the switching and routing department to handle the load of burst packets over the protocol for mms. Do some research on how mms works. It's not just a text, it's alot more, and they wanted to make sure it's solid before opening on the flood gates.

It shouldn't matter how it works,, they SHOULD have had it working already.. If their the nations largest 3G network than it better act like it.. They knew MMS was coming way before the June update and why have they still had to wait to get it working on there end...

It's not like AT&T is finally adding MMS to there entire network.. It works on all other phone's except the iphone.. They shouldn't have to change anything on there end except adding equipment for usage issues....


James

[justiny]

While I understand the frustration of inadequate AT&T service and the desire to switch carriers "when available", the iPhone going to Verizon won't happen anytime soon in my opinion.

If Verizon's going to make a move on the iPhone, it's going to be when Verizon's LTE (4G) network is up and successfully running. CDMA is out and old, LTE is in and new.

In addition, AT&T will be moving to LTE and as a result, the two largest wireless companies in the U.S. will be on the same 4G technology.

My prediction will be Verizon will dominate their LTE networks in some markets, and AT&T will dominate their LTE networks in others.

Anyone remember the days of astronomical roaming charges? I think it's about to make a come-back.

[macbookfan]

Not really, both the 3g and 2g have the same processor. I believe it has something to do with the differences in the radios between the 3g and the 2g. This was overcome when some hackers were able to enable mms on the 2g. You can find it through Cydia (You need to jailbreak in order to get this).

Here is why i think the 2g cant send mms. iPhone 3.0 firmware sends text in the background. If you are sending a mms on the 2g you wont have enough bandwidth left to make a phone call or surf the net. and people being the stupid consumers they are wont understand this and freak out when they cant make a call and send a mms at the same time.

[MorphingDragon]

I dont even live and America and r lolzing around in great hysterity of the crap AT&T is. :rolleyes:

2degrees FTW!!!

[justiny]

I dont even live and America and r lolzing around in great hysterity of the crap AT&T is. :rolleyes:

2degrees FTW!!!

It's pretty sad. America used to be the industrialized capital of the world.

Right now, iPhone users in Indonesia are enjoying MMS while I'm sitting at home on my PowerBook G4 in Washington DC wondering if my iPhone will even make calls on 9/25.

[michael31986]

i doubt there connection will be any slower. now that they fixed the network to wistand it. and im sure the change will be minimal no one will notice a decrease if any at all.

[thebez]

Here is why i think the 2g cant send mms. iPhone 3.0 firmware sends text in the background. If you are sending a mms on the 2g you wont have enough bandwidth left to make a phone call or surf the net. and people being the stupid consumers they are wont understand this and freak out when they cant make a call and send a mms at the same time.

The problem with what you are saying is that an iPhone 3G will still send and receive MMS messages while on EDGE, a situation where it effectively is a 2G.

I have a first generation iPhone that i purchased in January of 2008, and for a long time I loved it. Then 2.0 came along and I made the mistake of installing it right away. A short time later 2.1 came out and things were o.k. again, for about a month and a half, when AT&T decided to fix some of their 3G issues by stripping the guts out of their EDGE service. Ever since then I have had crap for service in places where service was formerly fantastic.

To recap:

- I paid $399 for my phone, not including sales tax.
- for roughly the last 11 months AT&T has been providing a lower level of service than I started with.
- AT&T is going to ******* ME OVER by not providing a feature to me that their cheapest phone provides.
- It seems likely that I will continue to receive NO NOTIFICATION AT ALL that a message has been sent to me when it is a MMS message. (This one is going over great with my friends btw).

Let's not forget that jailbroken iPhones have been sending and receiving MMS messages since 2007. I'm just so thrilled that AT&T and Apple have decided to royally screw us first gen iPhone owners once again!

[Fluffy Bunny]

Thank you AT&T! The greatest cellular provider in the greatest country in the world.

Not all of us iPhone users are whiny girly men.

[DavePurz]

uuuh, because it's too fuggin slow.

I've had an old Nokia flip phone that sent and received over the GPRS network 6 years ago.

The issue is not phone or network speed related, it's purely greed. Apple is not going to include MMS in the 2G's firmware simply because leaving it out will make more people, who want that feature, have to upgrade to a 3G phone. AT&T wins too because they'll be able to extract an extra $15 per month, in data plan fees, from each user who upgrades.

My 2G iPhone phone was stolen a few months ago and 3G was the ONLY available option, for new purchase, from AT&T. So in replacing the phone, I was was forced to pay $15 more, per month, for the same crappy AT&T service!

Carrier exclusivity agreement only benefit the network provider, certainly NOT consumers who foot the bill!

[MorphingDragon]

It's pretty sad. America used to be the industrialized capital of the world.

Right now, iPhone users in Indonesia are enjoying MMS while I'm sitting at home on my PowerBook G4 in Washington DC wondering if my iPhone will even make calls on 9/25.

Looking a bit highly of the USA arent you?

[PBF]

I guarantee MMS will be as useless as copypaste, which I use only once in a blue moon. :rolleyes:

All this unnecessary hoopla, I tell ya! :rolleyes:

[cpljwlusmc]

Finally a more efficient way of my gf sending me nudes. SWEET

And this is the only usefulness I will ever get out of MMS. :3

and because I'm using iPhone OS beta 3, I already have MMS.

[Lershac]

YMMV

On the peninsula, my Verizon coverage is superb.

The only problem I have is understanding calls from friends/colleagues who have Iphones - the voice quality is horrible.

"Can you hear me now?"
"What?"

"Can you hear me now?"
"What?"

"Can you hear me now?"
"What?"

"Can you hear me now?"
"What?"

"Can you hear me now?"
"What?"

"Can you hear me now?"
"What?"

in 10 years we have gone from "you can hear a pin drop" MCI... to "CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?"

What a reflection on the industry.

[sishaw]

and your damages are? And the lawyers cut of the damages will be?

Your damages will be a credit on your next bill of $.18.

We lawyers will get $22,000,000. ;-)

[krye]

You'd think AT&T could use a current generation iPhone in their add, right?

[Stately]

You guys that are bashing AT&T have no clue what it takes to maintain a wireless network like at&ts. I don't work for them, but I work in the 'industry' at the network level. The changes that were needed in the network architecture to cover the addition use was needed; mostly in the switching and routing department to handle the load of burst packets over the protocol for mms. Do some research on how mms works. It's not just a text, it's alot more, and they wanted to make sure it's solid before opening on the flood gates.

Ohhh ok, understood. Now if you can explain away all the other negatives of said company, I'm sure many would completely understand. Maybe starting with the reason for the $140 phone bills people receive occasionally when they should be no more than $82 would be good. Then we can go from there.

[daveinscotland]

We have had MMS since July in the UK

Must be backward cellular providers in the US!

[FoxHoundADAM]

Wait a minute. AT&T didn't say MMS would be available late Summer. They said that Summer would be late, thus giving birth to MMS in the Fall.

Yeah, the ardvark sawy his shadow, so two more weeks for summer.

[star-fish]

You'd think AT&T could use a current generation iPhone in their add, right?

You'd think that would only need to be said once instead of 8973458738537 other times in this thread, right?

[cellocello]

I can't believe no one else has pointed out the girl in the picture is using a 1st gen iPhone.

Guess I gotta do everything around here.

[bobab8ey]

I can't believe no one else has pointed out the girl in the picture is using a 1st gen iPhone.

Guess I gotta do everything around here.

I can't believe no one else read the 1st page of this thread.

[cellocello]

I can't believe no one else read the 1st page of this thread.

WOOSH!

(ps, I'm on the first page ;))

[azboricua]

I can't believe no one else has pointed out the girl in the picture is using a 1st gen iPhone.

Guess I gotta do everything around here.

I can't believe no one else read the 1st page of this thread.

WOOSH!

(ps, I'm on the first page ;))

What did we miss? The update is for 3G and 3GS users only. The girl is using a first gen iphone.

[Bjohnson33]

Meh,

I've waited this long, what's another month. I really haven't missed MMS functionality too much on the iphone and I've adapted to it, so while it will be nice, its not a huge issue for me.

I wonder how many other people are in the same boat as this. I know a lot of people have raised a big stink over not being able to use MMS, but I wonder how much people actually use it or will use it? I've never sent an MMS in my life - emailing things straight from the phone just seems like a better alternative.

[azboricua]

I wonder how many other people are in the same boat as this. I know a lot of people have raised a big stink over not being able to use MMS, but I wonder how much people actually use it or will use it? I've never sent an MMS in my life - emailing things straight from the phone just seems like a better alternative.

Well since its been so long since we have been waiting for the update you adapt and find other ways. And yes emailing is good, BUT, how do you send a pic to a person with a non-wed enabled phone? I want to send pics to my mom on her envy and my brother on his voyager, but I cant.

[alhedges]

I wonder how many other people are in the same boat as this. I know a lot of people have raised a big stink over not being able to use MMS, but I wonder how much people actually use it or will use it? I've never sent an MMS in my life - emailing things straight from the phone just seems like a better alternative.

This is generally correct. But the problem is that the 95% of cell phone users don't have smartphones. Meaning that MMS is the easiest option if I want to send a picture to my mom, or my sister, or my friend in MT where AT&T doesn't offer service.

There is a workaround, of course - if I know what carrier they have, I can send a picture by email to the specific mail address for their carrier (i.e., phonenumber@vzwpix.com) and it will show up basically as an mms message to them...with a couple of formatting issues sometimes.

But if they send an MMS to me, I have to go to viewmymessage.com and follow its cryptic procedures. (Actually, I use MMSBuddy, but the principle remains the same). And even my workaround only works well if I happen to know what carrier they are on, what email address it uses, and have already entered that into my phone.

So, yeah, MMS is outdated, and the people I talk to most often do have smartphones. But most people still use MMS, and MMS will continue to be around for many years to come, as some people simply won't pay the premium for a smartphone.

[michelle21]

Wow. I just posted this in a prediction thread. It's so obvious Apple will announce 3.1 at the event and release it on the last day of the month like they always do.

I don't think thats likely to happen , to early in the beta cycle.

[TheSpaz]

Is AT&T secretly telling us that first generation owners are going to get MMS too? Look at the graphic! I can't believe nobody else noticed yet!

[Unspoken Demise]

Is AT&T secretly telling us that first generation owners are going to get MMS too? Look at the graphic! I can't believe nobody else noticed yet!

Dude, EVERYONE has noticed it. The thread is just too long to see that. Its been mentioned MANY times. Every person who sees it thinks they are the first.

[Daveoc64]

Is AT&T secretly telling us that first generation owners are going to get MMS too? Look at the graphic! I can't believe nobody else noticed yet!

You kidding? There are several comments about that in this thread and a whole thread dedicated to it in the iPhone forum.

[cellocello]

Dude, EVERYONE has noticed it. The thread is just too long to see that. Its been mentioned MANY times. Every person who sees it thinks they are the first.

I'm pretty sure he's joking.

On an unrelated note - did anyone notice what the girl in the picture is holding?

[TheSpaz]

I'm pretty sure he's joking.

On an unrelated note - did anyone notice what the girl in the picture is holding?

She's holding a first gen iPhone! I told you! Just remember who saw it first... me! ;)

[Unspoken Demise]

She's holding a first gen iPhone! I told you! Just remember who saw it first... me! ;)

Im pretty sure it was me.
Shes also ASIAN?
FIRST!

[ilogic]

I'm not dismayed that it came from pcworld but I can't believe today's headline: "Network Woes, Hate the iPhone, not AT&T"

Are you serious!?

You want me to hate a consumer electronic device? WTFRk - You want me to "hate" something that, by the way, has blown up into cutting edge status and is simultaneously creating the next wave in top technology? (USA USA USA!!!!)... dood are you serious?

Wow pcworld I feel bad for your readers who eat this up.. Someone please call RoughlyDrafted and have Daniel explain

In other news:

OS :apple: SL #1
http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/mac/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=219501399

[riverfreak]

I disagree. Especially with living in Las Vegas, I have never had a problem with 3G or Edge service, all the way down to Kingman, AZ and Laughlin (hour and a half drive south), All the way down I-15 to the LA Basin, I-15 up to Cedar City, UT (2 hours drive northeast), and Indian Springs (45 minutes Northwest). 3G solid in every direction into and out of Las Vegas, and I live in the northwestern part of town, slapped next to Lone Mountain. You'd think I'd lose coverage next to that, but I have full bars in my apartment.


AT&T suxors in the inter-mountain west. Just try venturing off of any of the interstates to see what I mean.


Do us all a favour. Save yourself, your money and our bandwidth and get off ATT Now. If you don't like the service, leave it. No-one forced you to be with ATT.


I find it odd that you feel such brand identity to AT&T -- I didn't know there were AT&T zealots out there. A blander company that's more hostile to its customers I cannot imagine. Obviously you haven't received any cease and desist letters for daring to use your phone outside of an AT&T serviced area. At any rate, I guarantee 1) that there WILL be a mass exodus from AT&T when contracts expire, and 2) that YOUR service will suffer as AT&T has fewer resources to deal with mounting problems.

Finally, your concern over saving the bandwidth commons is hilarious. It's not your bandwidth to defend and police. People are free to do what they choose within the confines of the contract laid out between themselves and AT&T.

[pmpknetr21]

Im with you. I've got some pictures of my cat that EVERYONE needs to see. About 20 times. Each.

LMAO...

I really needed that laugh. Thanks. :D

[pmpknetr21]

I'm pretty sure he's joking.

On an unrelated note - did anyone notice what the girl in the picture is holding?

LMAO...

Another funny one. You guys crack me up. Seriously. It's been a rainy day here on South Beach, so I needed a laugh two.

Thanks.

[celtikmind]

We have had MMS since July in the UK

Must be backward cellular providers in the US!

We've had it in Sweden for several years now...


Oh wait, you meant for the iPhone. My Bad. :o

:D

[BluePAZ]

I just find its funny that in the pic the woman is shown holding a 1st gen iPhone which won't even support MMS

[MorphingDragon]

YMMV

On the peninsula, my Verizon coverage is superb.

The only problem I have is understanding calls from friends/colleagues who have Iphones - the voice quality is horrible.

"Can you hear me now?"
"What?"

"Can you hear me now?"
"What?"

"Can you hear me now?"
"What?"

"Can you hear me now?"
"What?"

"Can you hear me now?"
"What?"

"Can you hear me now?"
"What?"

MADE OF WIN!!!

Sounds like Telecom's new XT network.

97% of New Zealand my ass. My friend dropped a call in the middle of the largest city here.

[saves the day]

should i wait to buy an iphone 3GS or just buy it now? does this effect me? I want to get an iphone now!! or should i wait.. :confused:

[Golfer00ksu]

should i wait to buy an iphone 3GS or just buy it now? does this effect me? I want to get an iphone now!! or should i wait.. :confused:

Lol. If you have been waiting for MMS, then buy Sept. 25th. If you do not know what MMS is, buy tomorrow.

[zedsdead]

Lol. If you have been waiting for MMS, then buy Sept. 25th. If you do not know what MMS is, buy tomorrow.

No reason to wait, as the 3GS will not be getting an update till next June. Any software updates will be free.

[andyblila]

Maybe this finally means an end to the seemingly endless MMS threads!

[PBF]

Is it just me or is she really holding the 1st gen iPhone? Must be an old picture or something. :confused:

[lowonthe456]

Ok, so they underestimated iPhone data. They put billions into the network. Despite all the b!tching, I bet verizon would have had all the same issues. So let's be happy and quit whining about it, yeah?

I realize it's frustrating, but I think some people have nothing else to do but complain.

.02

[Jonathan7877]

You guys are way too funny with the 1st Gen iPhone thing. I was reading through a few pages from this post and about 13 people said OOOO SHES USING A FIRST GEN! haha too funny. :apple:

[mandis]

I find this really hard to believe. Are there still people out there who are ANTICIPATING for mms functionality on their phones????? WTF?? It's been around since 2002!!!! Why does this thread even exist???? LMAO!!

P.S. Unless iPhone MMS is not the same as the Multimedia Messaging Service we all know and use here in europe in which case please accept my apologies in advance!

[Vster]

Yay, well I'm just glad I don't have to go to that website and enter my "code" to see images anymore.

[TylerSmash]

Has anyone else noticed that there are more people complaining about complainers, then the actual complainers.?

:D

[CQd44]

I, for one, regularly use MMS as most of my friends don't own smart phones.

[zackkmac]

Ok, got one for you - I'll never use MMS, but the massive increase in traffic it will cause will further cripple my 3G speeds, which have already fallen to below 400 kbps in downtown Boston.

At least you have 3G...I'm stuck with EDGE here for who knows how long. :(

But on a better note, I bought a 3GS yesterday outright so I could finally have an iPhone with MMS without extending my almost-done contract. :)

[macdaveaustin]

Did anyone ever pick up on why the 2G can't do MMS? I never use to send any but I get a ton from friends and it sucks that I don't even get the option of going to the website to see them anymore. Hopefully they can crack the update and just enable MMS on a 2G without third party software.

When I was a contractor on iPhone support, I tracked down the problem with the viewmymessage.com - everything is converted to flash, which we all know Safari on the iPhone can't read. Why AT&T did this, and never corrected it, is reprehensible. viewmymessage.com is registered to AT&T.

I told my supervisor and colleagues about it and they choked. At least they had something to tell their callers - talk to AT&T about that; it's their issue.

[brownieguy19]

Any word on tethering?

[joeypremo]

I bet 99% of you complainers will use MMS once or twice on the 25th, get bored with this feature, and move on.

first off i want my MMS when i was told i was suppose to have it, second even the cheapest sell phones send pictures, and the "greatest phone ever" doesn't have it, personally all the apps for sending pics suck they SOMETIMES work, they should have had this feature on the first iphone, doesn't make sense why they wouldn't if all the crappy phones do, and another thing, i want picture messaging bc i'm a college senior and personally i don't know about anyone else but i get a lot of pictures from lady friends it would be much easier to send and receive pictures. basically why i want it

[kayno]

first off i want my MMS when i was told i was suppose to have it, second even the cheapest sell phones send pictures, and the "greatest phone ever" doesn't have it, personally all the apps for sending pics suck they SOMETIMES work, they should have had this feature on the first iphone, doesn't make sense why they wouldn't if all the crappy phones do, and another thing, i want picture messaging bc i'm a college senior and personally i don't know about anyone else but i get a lot of pictures from lady friends it would be much easier to send and receive pictures. basically why i want it

I hear that! I'm tired of telling chicks to send it to my email.. it's a mood killer... That's also 95% of the reason I want MMS as well.. and I've been out of college for about 3 years..

[ashad0509]

My MMS works now! We had an AT&T outage in Cincinnati yesterday and since then I have been able to send and receive MMS flawlessly. AT&T must be taking the block off of people's accounts. I've never been able to send MMS even through the beta's. Here is how to enable it and how to set the correct CDN settings.

http://adam.midlane.net/iPhone/iPhoneMMS.pdf

[kayno]

My MMS works now! We had an AT&T outage in Cincinnati yesterday and since then I have been able to send and receive MMS flawlessly. AT&T must be taking the block off of people's accounts. I've never been able to send MMS even through the beta's. Here is how to enable it and how to set the correct CDN settings.

http://adam.midlane.net/iPhone/iPhoneMMS.pdf

tried it in maryland... didnt work for me

[ashad0509]

tried it in maryland... didnt work for me

Hmmm...maybe that outage here yesterday was them setting it up on their end then. Because as far as I know, it was only AT&T people who had iPhones. Other AT&T customers (my brother) weren't affected.

[celtikmind]

Has anyone else noticed that there are more people complaining about complainers, then the actual complainers.?

:D

My dear Mr (or Miss), I sincerely have to complain about your complaining of the complaining complainers.

Cheers! ;) :D