New Gallery of Cases for Next-Generation iPod Touch and iPod Nano Posted

[MacRumors]

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Engadget posts (http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/04/hama-cases-foreshadow-5g-ipod-nano-3g-ipod-touch-at-ifa-hands/) a gallery of images showing third-party cases claimed to be for the next-generation iPod touch and iPod nano. The cases, being exhibited by accessory manufacturer Hama at the IFA electronics convention in Berlin, contain holes to accommodate digital cameras (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/15/new-iphone-and-ipod-touch-details-ipod-to-get-camera/) expected to be included in the next-generation devices. The iPod nano case also appears to accommodate a wider screen (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/26/artist-rendition-of-5g-ipod-nano-with-camera/) rumored to be offered in the forthcoming model.


http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/09/04/111559-hama_ipod_touch_case_500.jpg



http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/09/04/111600-hama_ipod_nano_case_500.jpg

The new cases are by no means the first (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/07/06/more-evidence-of-cameras-in-next-gen-ipod-touch-and-nano/) to appear, and a number of manufacturers (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/07/23/more-purported-next-generation-ipod-touch-and-ipod-nano-cases-surface/) have developed cases of similar design, but the hands-on views and packaging images shown in this latest gallery may be of interest to readers.

New iPods are widely expected to be introduced at next Wednesday's Apple media event (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/08/31/apple-issues-invitations-for-september-9th-media-event/) in San Francisco.

Article Link: New Gallery of Cases for Next-Generation iPod Touch and iPod Nano Posted (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/09/04/new-gallery-of-cases-for-next-generation-ipod-touch-and-ipod-nano-posted/)

[Jayomat]

oookay, we already know that the new ipod lineup gets a camera ;)

[randomrazor]

I would be frustrated to buy an Ipod nano with a camera on it now since I have an Iphone. What do you do with with your pics on your ipod nano with no internet???

[Small White Car]

I would be frustrated to buy an Ipod nano with a camera on it now since I have an Iphone. What do you do with with your pics on your ipod nano with no internet???

Are you serious? (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3A*%3AIE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GZHZ_en&um=1&sa=1&q=iPod+USB+cable&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&start=0)

[tkermit]

I would be frustrated to buy an Ipod nano with a camera on it now since I have an Iphone. What do you do with with your pics on your ipod nano with no internet???

What? How is that even different from a regular camera ?

[quigleybc]

there is no hope of keeping these things secret with all the case manufactures out there...

[BJMRamage]

I would be frustrated to buy an Ipod nano with a camera on it now since I have an Iphone. What do you do with with your pics on your ipod nano with no internet???

transfer them to your computer at a later time.
What did people do with photos on ipod photos (or maybe the 5th Gen ipod came out)?

they looked at them on screen.

what do I do with my digital camera when i take a photo? go home and upload it to the computer.

[Shonuff]

Anyone else find it odd that the "iPod Touch - 3rd generation" is written in a different font than the font the the left of it that says "iPod Touch - 2nd generation"? Seems like one of these things that would be consistent on the packaging.

[DUSTmurph]

I would be frustrated to buy an Ipod nano with a camera on it now since I have an Iphone. What do you do with with your pics on your ipod nano with no internet???

Apple is probably develop some high tech sophisticated way of connecting the iPod to a computer via some sort of cable to transfer data to and from the iPod. I have no clUe what Sort of caBle that would be tho.
:o

[alhasa]

Are you serious? (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3A*%3AIE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GZHZ_en&um=1&sa=1&q=iPod+USB+cable&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&start=0)

haha :) nice one

[macaco74]

really looking forward to the event. I will be at the US open, one eye on the court, one eye on the iphone.

[amk29j]

I don't quite understand the necessity of a camera on an iPod. Everyone has a camera phone now. I don't need ANOTHER camera. Take out the camera, leave it as is, and make it cheaper. (I guess you would still be able to get the camera-less iPods for cheaper so it doesn't matter.)

Just seems like they couldn't do anything new with the iPods so they added a camera and are calling it new just to keep the prices the same as they were last year. I could be wrong and they could have some new amazing technology; they haven't been released yet after all.

[randomrazor]

thinking about it, I would never need to have a nano if I had an iphone already.:rolleyes:

[Rychiar]

what i wanna know is why both those cases have odd shaped camera holes? r these things gonna get better lenses than the tiny circular iphone camera? that will just piss me off:mad:

[TheBritishBloke]

Anyone else find it odd that the "iPod Touch - 3rd generation" is written in a different font than the font the the left of it that says "iPod Touch - 2nd generation"? Seems like one of these things that would be consistent on the packaging.

Looks mainly just like some blur to me.

That's pretty sweet though. I'm planning to buy the next Nano so long as it comes out as a sweet design :)

[sam10685]

there is no hope of keeping these things secret with all the case manufactures out there...

Maybe don't give the design specifications to the case manufacturer until after it's out? It might not make those who must baby their ipods happy but it'd make it much more secretive.

[jsdc2005]

All I see is either a dude who needs to cut his nails or a woman with man-hands. :D

[TheBritishBloke]

what i wanna know is why both those cases have odd shaped camera holes? r these things gonna get better lenses than the tiny circular iphone camera? that will just piss me off:mad:

Looks to me like they may have a small bar of flash on the Nano along with a small camera lens.

[Toe]

What's the door for (below the lens opening)?

[karmachrome]

Anyone else find it odd that the "iPod Touch - 3rd generation" is written in a different font than the font the the left of it that says "iPod Touch - 2nd generation"? Seems like one of these things that would be consistent on the packaging.

That's definitely a different style of the same font family.

[karmachrome]

What's the door for (below the lens opening)?

belt clip?

[WLS]

well I take from this that the case size is the same for the new third gen touch with just the addition of the camera. This says to me there will be no 6 inch/ fat touch model presented. That makes the whole show a lot less interesting.
If they add GPS with the camera I will take a look but what I want is a bigger more easy to read screen. :(

[barkomatic]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[WLS]

Lenses have to be circular. Otherwise you'd get a rectangular or odd-resolutioned photo.

Looks to me like they may have a small bar of flash on the Nano along with a small camera lens.

Or a sliding door to protect the lens.

[zenoran]

so no 64gb touch? the box says 8, 16, 32! ;)

oh wait that says 2nd gen... herm

[puffnstuff]

besides uploading with the obvious wifi the nano could have wifi.

[Scottsdale]

What really surprises me is that Apple is providing information to the case manufacturers ahead of time. With Apple's code of secrecy, I am almost shocked of the practice. Furthermore, one would think Apple would have an NDA with the case manufacturers on releasing any information to others that may divulge changes in iPod designs and functions.

Seeing a terrible image that's blurry and taken by an insider is fun to see. But I find no enjoyment in seeing cases from companies that Apple is helping prepare for model changes. Honestly, these case manufacturers are stabbing Apple in the back. I at least hope Apple notes all these leakers and denies them early information in the future.

Rumors are fun but I don't appreciate photos of cases early. It just ruins the fun. Now, I will take a blurry photo of a new iPod ahead of time or some insiders tip about a new capability of the iPod because that makes us all think is it real or fake. This photo of a case generates no discussion of anticipation to me.

[SydneyDev]

The cases always spoil the surprise...

[TheBritishBloke]

Or a sliding door to protect the lens.
Can you see a sliding door on there? :P

[iOrlando]

ugh...this "rumor" is so played out now..its really getting boring...

we know they will get cameras...we get it...jeezz..move on



its like....rumor is the sun will rise tomorrow... new rumor: nasa sees evidence sun will rise tomorrow new rumor: sun has risen in china...will rise tomorrow in US...

[davester]

That's definitely a different style of the same font family.

No it's not.

The type on the left hand side (next to the iPod touch logo) is Adobe Myriad; the type to the right of that looks to be Helvetica (or Helv Neue) Bold Condensed. The only thing they have in common is that they're both sans serif typefaces.

[optophobia]

Apple is probably develop some high tech sophisticated way of connecting the iPod to a computer via some sort of cable to transfer data to and from the iPod. I have no clUe what Sort of caBle that would be tho.
:o

hmmm. I see what you did there.

[Bjohnson33]

I wonder how many companies take a chance on creating cases based on the rumours we all hear, just in the hopes of being correct and becoming one of the few to offer cases for the new lineup of iPods? It must be risky, but I'm sure it pays off quite well if they get it right!

[freemini]

No size for 3G model?? Seems some kind of photoshop..

[mrbrightside623]

I wonder how many companies take a chance on creating cases based on the rumours we all hear, just in the hopes of being correct and becoming one of the few to offer cases for the new lineup of iPods? It must be risky, but I'm sure it pays off quite well if they get it right!

I agree on this. Just because images of cases are out doesn't necessarily justify it because it's all base on the rumors we hear. But yeah when it's right, the benefit is great since they are a handful of cases that are immediately out.

-Tony

[mrklaw]

I don't quite understand the necessity of a camera on an iPod. Everyone has a camera phone now. I don't need ANOTHER camera. Take out the camera, leave it as is, and make it cheaper. (I guess you would still be able to get the camera-less iPods for cheaper so it doesn't matter.)

Just seems like they couldn't do anything new with the iPods so they added a camera and are calling it new just to keep the prices the same as they were last year. I could be wrong and they could have some new amazing technology; they haven't been released yet after all.


aligning the hardware platform makes sense - especially with the touch/iphone. Firstly there are probably cost savings from a common platform, also you have a wider addressable market for app store appliations.

I have a 2G ipod touch, but if they add camera+GPS+compass I'd be interested in buying a 3G. I like what they're doing with location etc at the moment. (if I'm away from a wifi hotspot I can use my phone as one)

[tkermit]

Lenses have to be circular. Otherwise you'd get a rectangular or odd-resolutioned photo.

Rectangular photos - now that would be plain weird, wouldn't it ? :rolleyes:

[puffnstuff]

Ok, I am gonna call it..

I think the nano will have a touch screen

They are going buttonless after all.

[TheBritishBloke]

Rectangular photos - now that would be plain weird, wouldn't it ? :rolleyes:

you know what I mean. I didn't know how to describe it, what I was trying to get at is they'd have some really screwed up resolution. lol

[hayesk]

I don't quite understand the necessity of a camera on an iPod. Everyone has a camera phone now. I don't need ANOTHER camera. Take out the camera, leave it as is, and make it cheaper. (I guess you would still be able to get the camera-less iPods for cheaper so it doesn't matter.)

I think you would have a point if your assertion that "everyone has a camera phone now" was actually true. Despite prevalence of camera phones you are forgetting about two things:
- not everyone (i.e. kids, those that have corporate phones with disabled cameras) has a phone
- lots of adults still get the free phone offer that doesn't have a camera
- most people don't even know how to get a photo off their phone other than MMS. Not everyone has an iPhone with a good UI and companion desktop software to download photos

[TheSpaz]

I can't wait to buy the new iPod touch 3rd generation so that I can get rid of this stupid iPhone.

[buxtone17]

Looks mainly just like some ISO blur to me.

1. What is "ISO blur"? Did you just make up your own term? ISO refers to film speed and has absolutely nothing to do with whether an image is sharp or blurry.

2. The image has absolutely no blur whatsoever. It's clear that the "iPod touch/3rd generation" font is a heavier, more narrow style of the "iPod touch/2nd generation" font.

[wizard]

I would be frustrated to buy an Ipod nano with a camera on it now since I have an Iphone. What do you do with with your pics on your ipod nano with no internet???

1.
You are making an huge assumption that the next Nano won't have WiFi. WiFi is a possibility especially if they move iPhone OS to the platform. Nano could be refactored as a mini Touch hybrid.

2.
Every iPod comes with some sort of USB connection. What is that used for besides charging?

3.
Have you considered video out? Many cameras allow you to directly drive HDTVs the is no reason the Nano couldn't do so also. People do use this feature.

4.
Maybe Apple will expand the use of SD cards. Seriously it is the standard for consummer cameras. Sure on iPod this is departure from the current arraingement, but Apple could limit access to the card just to camera jpegs and keep the rest of the system secure. Obviously Apple has a plan for SD, maybe this is it.

5.
Bluetooth.

6.
A high resolution screen for sharing pics.


Without even trying that is a half dozen ways to avoid your frustrations. So where you serious or not?


Dave

[Eidorian]

I'm somewhat tempted for once. I have the use for a camera on the go.

[timerollson]

I respect Apple's decision to move in a different direction but IDGAF about having a camera on my iPod. I'd prefer capacity over all these other trinkets. Seems like they just wanted to throw in another feature just for ***** & giggles.

[BornAgainMac]

It will be a good update. That and GPS to geotag the photos.

[TheBritishBloke]

1. What is "ISO blur"? Did you just make up your own term? ISO refers to film speed and has absolutely nothing to do with whether an image is sharp or blurry.

2. The image has absolutely no blur whatsoever. It's clear that the "iPod touch/3rd generation" font is a heavier, more narrow style of the "iPod touch/2nd generation" font.

When you have ISO Set higher on a camera, it tends to blur the picture slightly. It looks blurry to me on the right handside where it gets darker compared to the left handside.

[Target362]

Everyone has a camera phone now.

I don't (http://www.boostmobilestore.com/bpdirect/boost/PhoneList.do;jsessionid=dgTKof5ZbNx47kj0fo?action=view&id=i335)

I don't need ANOTHER camera.

Good for you! There are others who think otherwise. Remember you are not the only one who uses the ipod.

[mikes70mustang]

Great, now their gonna jack up the price b/c they put a pos camera on there. Next their will be a phone on it, er wait, thats an iphone.

[TheBritishBloke]

As everyone's saying. Sooner or later they're gonna run out of features to put in there. Until something like holographic imaging comes out to mainstream market, then they're gonna be stuck with just bumping the capacity and making things smaller.

[Hattig]

there is no hope of keeping these things secret with all the case manufactures out there...

Luckily although the camera secret is out, and has been for yonks, it doesn't release software feature details, which is what Apple likes to protect most from leaking.

Is the new nano screen 16:10 or 16:9?

[PeterQVenkman]

the text "iPod touch 3rd generation" looks photoshopped to me. It's a different font weight, and the spacing between the letters is off.

not like it matters. We all know updates are coming soon, anyway, so who cares if the case is fake? ;)

Come on, Apple. Announce your Beatles **** already, and release the damn iPods. I am ready to buy.

[zedsdead]

what i wanna know is why both those cases have odd shaped camera holes? r these things gonna get better lenses than the tiny circular iphone camera? that will just piss me off:mad:

The extra space is for a microphone for video recording.

[wizard]

well I take from this that the case size is the same for the new third gen touch with just the addition of the camera. This says to me there will be no 6 inch/ fat touch model presented. That makes the whole show a lot less interesting.
If they add GPS with the camera I will take a look but what I want is a bigger more easy to read screen. :(

I'm with you about a larger Touch. However these leaks don't imply a lack of such a devices. Let's face it you haven't seen any ten inch cases either.

In other words remain hopeful. It looks like the entire lineup is about to be revved so maybe the case vendors are off balance. It is also highly likely that any new device is being held close to the chest. Apple simply isn't going to help the case manufactures with new profile devices.


Dave

[BJB Productions]

So hopefully in the next few days maybe we'll see pictures of the next gen iPod Touch?...At least I'm hoping so.. :D

[mpb2000]

I respect Apple's decision to move in a different direction but IDGAF about having a camera on my iPod. I'd prefer capacity over all these other trinkets. Seems like they just wanted to throw in another feature just for ***** & giggles.

It's pretty much expected that there will be a capacity upgrade; there is every year. Why not have a camera too? Can't hurt.

And like someone said before, aligning the touch with the iphone streamlines apple's manufacturing process, thereby reducing their cost. Everyone who says that the touch becoming too similar to the iphone is a bad move for apple is crazy. The touch is missing that one important feature, you know, the phone part. Anything else just adds more interest to the touch. If someone really wants a phone, they'll get the iphone. If not, they can get the touch. Having a camera isn't going to be a deciding factor.

[Hattig]

the text "iPod touch 3rd generation" looks photoshopped to me. It's a different font weight, and the spacing between the letters is off.

not like it matters. We all know updates are coming soon, anyway, so who cares if the case is fake? ;)

So some third-rate case manufacturer uses the packaging for their previous case, and adds on another entry for the 3rd gen touch and the person uses another font (or it's a placeholder until they know the capacities), so what? Be happy that it is actually in English!

[buxtone17]

When you have ISO Set higher on a camera, it tends to blur the picture slightly. It looks blurry to me on the right handside where it gets darker compared to the left handside.

When you shoot at a high ISO, you get more grain/digital noise, not blur.

[Surely]

Great, now their gonna jack up the price b/c they put a pos camera on there.

Apple tends to maintain the same price-points as previous generations even when they add new features to a product.

[TheBritishBloke]

When you shoot at a high ISO, you get more grain/digital noise, not blur.

It's the same as blur in my opinion. It jacks up the photo, end of story. lol

[notromeel]

It's the same as blur in my opinion. It jacks up the photo, end of story. lol

tripod, mid ISO.

anyway..

[robindahlia789]

yaaaaaaaaawn

[ajones46]

Has no one else noticed that there are no capacities listed for the 3rd Gen? Everyone's talking about the difference in the font, what about the complete lack of listed capacities.... maybe there'll only be one iPod Touch 3rd gen and it will have unlimited capacity :rolleyes:

[BJB Productions]

maybe there'll only be one iPod Touch 3rd gen and it will have unlimited capacity :rolleyes:

The day that happens the iPod Touch will of been obsolete for years.

[puckhead193]

eh, i wish these cases were well known names like speck etc. then i know its real

[Vulpinemac]

What would be fun is if all of these devices have the camera opening in the wrong locations. I wouldn't put it against Apple to intentionally leak incorrect data in order to force those companies who rely on rumors to waste money. Such a company could only afford to do this one or two times before they learn to wait for an 'official' announcement from Apple before designing peripheral devices.

[twoodcc]

i still don't get why the camera on the ipod touch would be in the middle of it, instead of being to one side like the iphone?

[currentinterest]

The article also suggests a wider screen size. Any guess on the possible dimensions?

[rkdiddy]

i still don't get why the camera on the ipod touch would be in the middle of it, instead of being to one side like the iphone?

I'm guessing it has something to do with the earpiece speaker on the iPhone.

[shady825]

It's the same as blur in my opinion. It jacks up the photo, end of story. lol

A blurred image.
A pixelated image from high ISO

Two completely different things!

[Eminemdrdre00]

Remember when we saw all those "iPhone Nano" cases?

[tkermit]

eh, i wish these cases were well known names like speck etc. then i know its real

Hama is definitely a well known name in Germany. They actually employ more than 2200 people worldwide. It's kind of a low-cost alternative to other more upscale manufacturers.

[jessica.]

I would be frustrated to buy an Ipod nano with a camera on it now since I have an Iphone. What do you do with with your pics on your ipod nano with no internet???

Are you serious? (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3A*%3AIE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GZHZ_en&um=1&sa=1&q=iPod+USB+cable&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&start=0)

What? How is that even different from a regular camera ?

ROFL! That was awesome!

[corinhorn]

Everyone who says that the touch becoming too similar to the iphone is a bad move for apple is crazy. The touch is missing that one important feature, you know, the phone part. Anything else just adds more interest to the touch. If someone really wants a phone, they'll get the iphone. If not, they can get the touch. Having a camera isn't going to be a deciding factor.

I fully agree. I have no desire to get the iPhone because I'm happy with my carrier and my current phone, but I do want an iPod Touch. If the camera remained exclusive to the iPhone, I still wouldn't care and it wouldn't convince me to ditch my carrier. Even though the iPhone and iPod Touch have a similar feature set, they each have a different user base.

[Beric]

I had thought that after so much information leaked before the last update, that Apple was no longer providing information to the case manufacturers beforehand. Was that not true?

[jessica.]

I had thought that after so much information leaked before the last update, that Apple was no longer providing information to the case manufacturers beforehand. Was that not true?

Evidently not.

[spacevator]

I'm with you about a larger Touch. However these leaks don't imply a lack of such a devices. Let's face it you haven't seen any ten inch cases either.

In other words remain hopeful. It looks like the entire lineup is about to be revved so maybe the case vendors are off balance. It is also highly likely that any new device is being held close to the chest. Apple simply isn't going to help the case manufactures with new profile devices.


Dave

If the tablet rumors are true , that Apple is taking delivery of Wintek 10" touch screens in the 3rd Q 2009 (about now), would they then sit on that inventory until 1st Q 2010 to launch a tablet? There's something very weird going on here. Maybe there will be a tablet launch next week or Oct. but 2010 seems too far away.

[mrbrightside623]

i still don't get why the camera on the ipod touch would be in the middle of it, instead of being to one side like the iphone?

There was a thread on this.... I think they said its because the wifi antenna is on the side causing them to place it in the middle.

-Tony

[corinhorn]

I had thought that after so much information leaked before the last update, that Apple was no longer providing information to the case manufacturers beforehand. Was that not true?
I had thought the same thing. Who knows.

[randomrazor]

1.
You are making an huge assumption that the next Nano won't have WiFi. WiFi is a possibility especially if they move iPhone OS to the platform. Nano could be refactored as a mini Touch hybrid.

2.
Every iPod comes with some sort of USB connection. What is that used for besides charging?

3.
Have you considered video out? Many cameras allow you to directly drive HDTVs the is no reason the Nano couldn't do so also. People do use this feature.

4.
Maybe Apple will expand the use of SD cards. Seriously it is the standard for consummer cameras. Sure on iPod this is departure from the current arraingement, but Apple could limit access to the card just to camera jpegs and keep the rest of the system secure. Obviously Apple has a plan for SD, maybe this is it.

5.
Bluetooth.

6.
A high resolution screen for sharing pics.


Without even trying that is a half dozen ways to avoid your frustrations. So where you serious or not?


Dave


why would you have a wifi nano when you can just get the itouch?? I am just saying that the nano should stay simple and market to those that don't want itouch features

[randomrazor]

i can understand why the touch should get a camera but the nano to have a camera?? Like someone already mentioned... what cell phone doesn't come with a camera now days? And who doesn't have a cell phone. What are the chances of having your nano ipod without having your cell phone?

[Firefly2002]

Apple is probably develop some high tech sophisticated way of connecting the iPod to a computer via some sort of cable to transfer data to and from the iPod. I have no clUe what Sort of caBle that would be tho.
:o

Lol! :)

[voltare]

It always amazes me how ignorant and self-centered people can be, especially on the internet. Just because you don't want a camera on an ipod, doesn't mean everyone else doesn't either. I imagine very soon in the future, digital cameras will be so cheap that everything will have a camera. Your ipod... your watch... your sunglasses???

No iphone here. My verizon phone has a camera, but verizon makes everything so difficult and expensive to use, that I don't even bother using it for pics, music, etc.

I'm going for broke on 9/9/09. I'm selling my ipod touch and my old nano. I'm gonna pick up a 32GB nano with a camera.

[RyanR.]

I'm gonna laugh real hard if the new iPods don't have camera's:D

[randomrazor]

It always amazes me how ignorant and self-centered people can be, especially on the internet. Just because you don't want a camera on an ipod, doesn't mean everyone else doesn't either. I imagine very soon in the future, digital cameras will be so cheap that everything will have a camera. Your ipod... your watch... your sunglasses???

No iphone here. My verizon phone has a camera, but verizon makes everything so difficult and expensive to use, that I don't even bother using it for pics, music, etc.

I'm going for broke on 9/9/09. I'm selling my ipod touch and my old nano. I'm gonna pick up a 32GB nano with a camera.

I guess I am just playing devils advocate here... i like to hear both sides of the story... you know the pros and cons... honestly i can care less if they have cameras or not. I just like to hear what people have to say. I have an iphone so i don't need anything else.

[Target362]

The article also suggests a wider screen size. Any guess on the possible dimensions?

4.1" screen (or screen is on the entire device with the home button right on the edge. (a thin strip)

[zipadidoodah]

Any chance of apple releasing iphoto for windows (cut down version) to have the same halo effect as itunes?

[corinhorn]

Any chance of apple releasing iphoto for windows (cut down version) to have the same halo effect as itunes?

Not a chance.

[tkermit]

I imagine very soon in the future, digital cameras will be so cheap that everything will have a camera. Your ipod... your watch... your sunglasses???

There's definitely a big market for that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeHayzWIhbk)... :cool: :o

[sishaw]

I would be frustrated to buy an Ipod nano with a camera on it now since I have an Iphone. What do you do with with your pics on your ipod nano with no internet???

I won't even bring up film, which was a pre-digital type of polymer strip coated with a light-sensitive emulsion that could be chemically developed and printed to special paper. Then you could show the results--they were called "photos"--to your friends and family. Of course, you would have to do this in person.

[Target362]

Lets hope the ads wont be as chessy as the "TMobile my touch". whoopi and the other guy with the video I can handle, but the guy with the tattoo kissing the other guy along with the chessy music just makes me hate the ad even more

Palm Pre is alreight, kind of creepy andn doesnt make sense

[GQB]

I don't quite understand the necessity of a camera on an iPod. Everyone has a camera phone now. I don't need ANOTHER camera. Take out the camera, leave it as is, and make it cheaper. (I guess you would still be able to get the camera-less iPods for cheaper so it doesn't matter.)


Probably for people who don't want to lug around ANOTHER device.
Apple can't seem to win. They release SL with few new features (but lots of performance/size/future direction improvements), and they get slammed for not having enough pizzazz (here (http://kottke.org/09/09/the-apple-upgrade-problem)), and on the other, slammed for including new features, like a camera on the iPod.

Hope they don't watch tech blogs for direction.

[akira2501]

whrz my tablet. WHOA, whn it hts; 1st in line.

[inkswamp]

I would be frustrated to buy an Ipod nano with a camera on it now since I have an Iphone. What do you do with with your pics on your ipod nano with no internet???

No offense, my friend, but this is hilarious!

This reminds me of people who get overly accustomed to the electronic door locks on their cars. We had a neighbor whose battery died in her car lock remote and she didn't know what to do until someone pointed out that she could still use the key. :rolleyes:

[Target362]

whrz my tablet. WHOA, whn it hts; 1st in line.

For those who can't understand him:

Nevermind that

Where's my tablet? When it hits I'll be the first in line

and of course you would.:rolleyes:

[sellitom]

neat.

[Micjose]

The new line-up should definitely include bluetooth. Who wouldn't want wireless headphones?!

[Brien]

For everyone wondering why they're putting cameras in the iPods now:

Simply, people aren't buying iPods anymore. Adding new features, useful or not, is an easy way to spur people to buy new ones.

[Buskape]

I'm really looking forward to some kind of Ipod Nano sized ipod touch with 32gb of capacity it would be perfect for my needs, i don't care about the camera personally, i have enough cameras already.

[skate71290]

is it me or does anyone agree that Apple is running out of ideas? ;) Camera on everything? :eek: would like to see a large screen for iPod classic with scrolling touchable screen :) (i.e. like on the ipod touch when you can scroll up and down on the songs?) cameras seem lame and won't be wasting my money might just save up for a unibody macbook pro when they up the specs.. although looking forward to iTunes 9 and hoping to see native DVD ripping within iTunes :D x :D

[Dagless]

The cases always spoil the surprise...

Back when I was 10 or so I was desperate for a Gameboy. I had no idea I was getting one until I opened a case for one on Christmas :rolleyes:. So I guess that's true.

Whichever flash player goes beyond 32gb gets my money come next week. I really could do with a new one now and all the planets are aligned. Just hope they release a 64gb touch with a camera (I have an DSLR but boy howdy it's too big to carry around on a whim).

[PeterQVenkman]

would like to see a large screen for iPod classic with scrolling touchable screen :) (i.e. like on the ipod touch when you can scroll up and down on the songs?)

Why not just get a touch then?

[RazHyena]

The Nano will have a camera, too?? Nice!

[iPoodOverZune]

I would be frustrated to buy an Ipod nano with a camera on it now since I have an Iphone. What do you do with with your pics on your ipod nano with no internet???

does your camera got internet on it for pictures? :p

[corinhorn]

The new line-up should definitely include bluetooth. Who wouldn't want wireless headphones?!

Me.

[creon]

China always seems to get their stuff leaked.

Same thing happened last year. I would like to be surprised one of these years...guess i should avoid this site then huh...naw, bring on the spoilers.:D

[sharkinfested]

I believe the addition of a camera to the iPod Touch means that Apple is preparing these devices for Augmented Reality games.
If you haven’t seen an AR game check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNu4CluFOcw

[SeaFox]

you know what I mean. I didn't know how to describe it, what I was trying to get at is they'd have some really screwed up resolution. lol

1. What is "ISO blur"? Did you just make up your own term? ISO refers to film speed and has absolutely nothing to do with whether an image is sharp or blurry.

2. The image has absolutely no blur whatsoever. It's clear that the "iPod touch/3rd generation" font is a heavier, more narrow style of the "iPod touch/2nd generation" font.

When you have ISO Set higher on a camera, it tends to blur the picture slightly. It looks blurry to me on the right handside where it gets darker compared to the left handside.

LOL to these. This is what I hate about the explosive popularity of digital photography -- people trying to explain stuff who don't know anything about photography.

A square lens isn't going to effect the resolution of the photo, the image sensor in the camera is what determines the resolution/shape of the image. But the way the lens focuses the scene onto the small image sensor makes a round lens better for this. They could probably make a square lens that did this correctly too, but it would be harder and more expensive to manufacture than a round lens, and nobody cares about the shape of the lens to begin with.

ISO = film speed = sensitivity of the film to light. The term still works in the digital world with the reaction time of the image sensor. ISO blur would be more accurately described as Motion Blur. The ISO speed is too low on the camera so the sensor requires the scene to sit still longer to take the exposure. This "sitting still" isn't talking about the subject themselves, it's referring to the entire scene. So whether its a person in the picture moving too much or the photographer's hand shaking the result is the same -- a blurry subject.

Remember when you were still using film and you knew you needed a high speed film (ISO 400-800) to take picture in low-light situations (like birthday-cake blowing-out)? The speed of your film had nothing to do with you ability to take photos in low light situations, that was just the marketing dept of Kodak trying to help you deal with this stuff. The real reason you needed a higher speed film is you wanted to take a photo in low light and have things be sharp or at least recognizable. So you needed to use a film with a high enough light sensitivity to take a shot with a short enough exposure time to avoid motion blur either in your subject or from you holding the camera with your hands. If everyone had been frozen like statues and you'd had the camera sitting on a tripod, you could have used ISO 50 film at that birthday party and gotten a picture lit up like daytime if you'd wanted.

Another reason is many people had cheap point-n-shoot cameras. These cameras had a fixed shutter speed. So no matter what kind of film you have they took the photo in 1/125 sec or whatever. How did the camera prevent overexposure/underexposure? It didn't! The dynamic range of film still allowed all the detail to be captured because it wasn't possible to print a photo that showed everything the film had picked up, so the processing center would adjust their printing for the exposure level your film had. Go look at a bunch of your negatives from different rolls of film. The higher speed rolls will be darker overall than the lower speed rolls even when taking pictures of the same types of scenes. This is what that "brightness/contrast" adjustment was you used to hear about in commercials for Kodak Processing, the printer making up for your cheap-ass camera or your lack in ability to set proper exposure for your film. This is also why it's so hard to get a decent night picture with commercial processing (because their machine assumes a "dark" photo is underexposed, not that it really was a dark scene you were shooting).

The "blurriness" you see in high ISO photos is due to the quality of the image sensor. It's noise introduced by the sensor and the camera itself, not blur! Look up photos taken with a real expensive Digital SLR and a nice lens. I've seen good photos taken at ISO 6400 with no noise. Noise is also caused by the resolution of your pictures and current image sensor technology. Right now, manufactures are packing more and more pixels onto the same size image sensors in more consumer digital cameras. This is wrong! It's causing photos that are extra noisy when taken it higher ISO settings, whereas if they kept the resolution the same as last years models, they could instead have a camera that took better low-light photos and supported higher ISOs overall. The resolution of cameras is already way higher than your average consumer will ever need. 2 megapixels is a fine resolution for your average 4x6" print size. Maybe go to 6 or 8 for a super high quality 10x13".

Digital camera manufacturers continue to make cameras with higher and higher resolutions because lots of consumers measure how "good" a camera is my the number of megapixels it takes (regardless of if they need them or not) and the size of the screen on the back. Instead of how well it takes photos at ______ ISO setting and how easy it is to navigate the menus, etc. This is exactly the same thing as "megahertz myth" in personal computer processors we all remember from the G4 days. The pushing of a metric that doesn't give a complete picture of the abilities of a product by manufactures to exploit what consumers mistakenly thinks they should be looking at.

The reason most mobile phones take bad pictures is the sensors are low quality, the reason they take noisy photos is technology for sensors that small is just now reaching levels were it can take photos at a decent resolution and quality at the same time (the pixel packing thing, phone cams have tiny sensors). The reason they take blurry photos is the lenses are low quality plastic ones generally. They also get dirty and scratched easily because they are completely exposed to what's in the owners pocket quite often. But manufactures don't add lens caps (generally, there are a couple) is because it would add to the device's thickness and they would rather you have a reason to replace your phone in a year or two anyway.

To address the last point, the "darkness and blurriness" on the edge of some cell phone pics is the camera taking a picture of the edges of it's own lens hole. Lenses are recessed in camera cases to try and protect them from scratches, but this also means it's more possible to have the corners of camera's view obstructed by the case edge. It's like when you stack too many filters onto the end of a SLR's lens or use a wide angle lens with a lens hood.

[Staphyl]

Is it just me or is this a load of BS?

Im pretty certain we're getting cams, but seriously how do they make a case that fits both the 1st and 2nd gen ipod touches? They're completely different designs. The 3rd one will probably be redesigned as well... seems fishy that's all.

Edit: Ok so i misread and thought the cases were for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Gen. Reread and its only for 2nd and 3rd gen, (tho it still seems stupid to put this case on your 2nd gen cuz you'll get a nice square of scratches on it for no reason. Makes no sense to market it to 2nd Gen users.

[Target362]

Why not just get a touch then?

because people want more storage :rolleyes:

[tabasco70]

A bunch of people are going to be very upset when they reveal they haven't added a camera on the nano.

[tkermit]

A bunch of people are going to be very upset when they reveal they haven't added a camera on the nano.

:)
I wouldn't say there's absolutely no chance of this case being a 'false lead' and personally don't mind either way but I see it as pretty damn striking evidence (and there's actually been more).

This reminds me: I bet the real Snow Leopard package is still coming, since that weird white one without a giant X on the front was clearly a ridiculous fake. It'll probably come at the same time as the release of the actual GM build that will ship in a completely bug-free form not like that horrid rumored GM build with all the faults that Apple wouldn't ever dare to ship.

(I'm posting this in good fun, no offense...)

[PeterQVenkman]

because people want more storage :rolleyes:

Sounds like you pretty much have to wait for the tech to get better and storage to become cheaper/larger. Your time will come!

I'd rather not have a hard drive inside.

[PeterQVenkman]

LOL to these. This is what I hate about the explosive popularity of digital photography -- people trying to explain stuff who don't know anything about photography.

>snipped a large book<



Of course, you could have made this really, really long winded point without sounding stuck up.

[markredf150]

Anyone else find it odd that the "iPod Touch - 3rd generation" is written in a different font than the font the the left of it that says "iPod Touch - 2nd generation"? Seems like one of these things that would be consistent on the packaging.

And the fact that it doesn't have any capacities for this assumed 3rd gen Touch keeps people wondering. I guess we'll see on Wednesday...

[Diabeetus]

Are you serious? (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3A*%3AIE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GZHZ_en&um=1&sa=1&q=iPod+USB+cable&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&start=0)

well played, sir. well played.

[Beric]

I'm still kind of wondering what will be the big draw of the next generation Touch. The previous 2G update was lackluster (volume buttons and cheap speakers? That's it?), and 2 lackluster updates in a row surely isn't a good trend for Apple to make. I was so disappointed with the 2G update, I held off getting a Touch for this past year (I already have a Nano). I'm for sure getting a 3G Touch, but this update has got to have something GOOD. A camera (everything has a camera these days, and for cheap), a faster processor, and a capacity increase aren't revolutionary, or big drivers of sales. GPS might do the trick, or something else. But the Touch is rapidly growing in market share, while at the same time the Zune HD is practically identical to the expected Touch 3G update. Yeah, Apple has the superior OS and the app store, but a differentiating hardware feature seems to me to be needed.

[billysea]

The iPod designs are getting stale to me, especially the Nano models. Looking back I actually find the 3rd gen Nano to be the nicest as it is the most compact.

[Merkuryy]

:mad::eek::confused::apple:no!!!!!!!!no!!!!!!no!!!!! I don't want this for my new college semester, mama help me out!!!! Bono ,Jesus , Steve, Bill, help me out!!!!!!!! At least WiFi, 16G, 32h battery life, and 33% price down for 9th September:o

[smiddlehurst]

To all those wondering why the nano would have a camera but no internet connection... look beyond the device. Look at the big chunk of software sitting on the other end of the USB cable called iTunes. Look at the VERY strong rumours that it's getting social network integration built in. Suddenly this makes a LOT of sense. Take a pic or ten, review on the device, delete those you don't want and sync. Your pictures magically transfer from device to your facebook page without any user effort whatsoever.

And yes, I know that us tech-savvy lot would scoff at that idea but if there's one thing Apple's proved with the iPhone line it's that regular users WILL do geeky things just so long as they don't realise they're doing them :D Take a look at the explosion of iPhone pics on Flickr after the 3GS came along for example. Why don't more people use the cameras on their phones? Because it's too much of a faff to get the pics from phone to somewhere it can be viewed by others. Note, not complicated, just... awkward. The great trick Apple have mastered over the last few years is making these processes less kludgy for the regular user and they may just be getting ready to do it again.

[alexknibb]

Okay, am I the only one who doesn't particularly want a camera in their iPod?

I just don't get it. :confused: Seriously, how many people don't have a camera in their phone already (iPhone or otherwise)? You can get camera phones, admittedly not very good ones, for £20 these days on PAYG, so why would anyone need one in their iPod? The way I see it is this, most people who want music on the go carry around one of the following combinations:

1. An iPhone
2. An iPhone & an iPod
3. A regular cameraphone & an iPod
4. Just a regular cameraphone (with mp3 functionality, which again most phones have)

...Or any of the above plus a digital camera.

So why on earth would anyone need a camera on an iPod? Most people already have a basic camera in one of their gadgets for snapping on the go, or carry around a dedicated camera for proper photography. I know it's nice to have extra functionality, but I'd much rather have something useful like a higher capacity or a bigger battery (or even just cheaper would be fine) rather than something which is a 'nice-to-have'.

I'm not having a go at those who are excited about a camera in an iPod, but I genuinely don't get it... Can anyone fill me in? :)

EDIT: I just read smiddlehurst's comment above, and it sounds like an interesting point. I still don't really get it, though. Sounds like a lot of duplication across devices to me. Maybe I'm just not the prime demographic any more? :D

[smiddlehurst]

Trouble is, higher capacity or a bigger battery are either limited by the available tech or by the cost of the components. I think the key, and it's a trick I'm still stunned no-one else is managing, is to take existing technology and streamline it so it's both easy and FUN to use. That last bit especially is what everyone seems to miss out on... I've got a DSLR and use iPhoto as my pciture management and upload tool for facebook but it's not a process that my parents, for example, would find particularly fun to use.

Let me twist it around a bit. The iPhone introduced a whole new interface for mobiles for the first time in years. It wasn't the most flexible, it didn't even have apps for the first year, but it was a revalation because for the first time it made the tools that had been in mobiles for years accessible to everyone. Mobile Internet was the first obvious example, then the introduction of apps and the app store and with the 3GS they've done it with video and photos too. Sure, we geeks might scoff but for the average customer this is actually way overdue. I have no idea what Apple have up their sleve but if they're planning on introducing cameras to the iPod range I'd bet pounds to doughnuts that they've got a software solution to go with it. Might not WORK of course but they'll have a go at least :D

Oh and one more thought... forget you're a geek for a moment. Ignore all you know about technology and put yourself in the shoes of an average user. Now imagine Apple introducing and pushing geotagged pics wth the iPod Touch next week.... that'd be quite an impressive headline act for them.

[Drag'nGT]

Apple buys a lot of cameras, the cost goes down they put them in iPhones and then in iPods.

The camera idea is a good choice especially for the Touch. All the camera apps can now be sold to Touch users and thus the developers make some money and Apple makes some money.
Apple also wants people to see and get used to Geotagging their photos and putting them in iPhoto. There's nearly no pocket sized camera in a DI area of a local store that can do that. Apple could get people to really love this feature and push it into the masses. I personally love my geotagged photos. :D

[andy721]

I dont get it the camera is on the other side I'm guessing ones for iphone I assume.

[goinskiing]

Okay, am I the only one who doesn't particularly want a camera in their iPod?

I just don't get it. :confused: Seriously, how many people don't have a camera in their phone already (iPhone or otherwise)? You can get camera phones, admittedly not very good ones, for £20 these days on PAYG, so why would anyone need one in their iPod? The way I see it is this, most people who want music on the go carry around one of the following combinations:

1. An iPhone
2. An iPhone & an iPod
3. A regular cameraphone & an iPod
4. Just a regular cameraphone (with mp3 functionality, which again most phones have)

...Or any of the above plus a digital camera.

So why on earth would anyone need a camera on an iPod? Most people already have a basic camera in one of their gadgets for snapping on the go, or carry around a dedicated camera for proper photography. I know it's nice to have extra functionality, but I'd much rather have something useful like a higher capacity or a bigger battery (or even just cheaper would be fine) rather than something which is a 'nice-to-have'.

I'm not having a go at those who are excited about a camera in an iPod, but I genuinely don't get it... Can anyone fill me in? :)

EDIT: I just read smiddlehurst's comment above, and it sounds like an interesting point. I still don't really get it, though. Sounds like a lot of duplication across devices to me. Maybe I'm just not the prime demographic any more? :D

It's all about the App store and being able to make more apps available to a wider user base (augmented reality being a huge one for the future, photo apps). Again, I think it mostly comes down to the software being available to more users.

[Erasmus]

A 3.2MP camera (which is all you really need anyway) with a 3.5 inch LCD screen, quick and easy transfer facilities to your home computer, or Facebook via Wi-Fi, video capabilities with simple and easy to use video editing software, effectively for free in a device that is already fantastic to begin with? Seriously, who wouldn't want a camera in their iPod? It's Apple who is making the software, so it'll be great! I'll never be out somewhere without a camera again!

I think the camera is enough to convince me to trade up from my 2G iPod, but if it has a GPS in it, then it'll be everything I could ever want.

Well, except for the phone bit, removing yet another necessary object from my pocket, but I'd rather save $500+ and keep my cheap phone than spend it for one extra tiny little 50 cent silicon shard to make my iPod an iPhone.

Sigh, pity I have to wait for Friday to see if the new iPod Touch has what I want it to have. If so, I'll take a 32GB one thanks Apple!

[roski11]

IDK,I dont see them adding video capabilites. I see that as being the next thing they add in the 4g

[uaecasher]

I can't wait for new iPod release lol

[sam10685]

[Wrong post.]

[zedsdead]

IDK,I dont see them adding video capabilites. I see that as being the next thing they add in the 4g

The reason the holes are so big on the cases is because of the microphone, which is needed for video. There is no way Apple will not include it considering how easy to use and upload it is on the 3GS.

Next year will be GPS/Compass and anything major they add to the iPhone next year.

[goinskiing]

The reason the holes are so big on the cases is because of the microphone, which is needed for video. There is no way Apple will not include it considering how easy to use and upload it is on the 3GS.

Next year will be GPS/Compass and anything major they add to the iPhone next year.

From what I understand, the mic on the 3G and 3GS are near the headphone jack. I could be wrong however.

[nicko13]

How bad, why just apple makes the ipod touch an i phone, one way or the other the ipod touch will be the sam than an iphone.

[zedsdead]

From what I understand, the mic on the 3G and 3GS are near the headphone jack. I could be wrong however.

That's true, which is why Apple would need to add a space for the microphone since the Touch and Nano do not have one.

[Kaliver]

Okay, am I the only one who doesn't particularly want a camera in their iPod?

I just don't get it. :confused: Seriously, how many people don't have a camera in their phone already (iPhone or otherwise)? You can get camera phones, admittedly not very good ones, for £20 these days on PAYG, so why would anyone need one in their iPod? The way I see it is this, most people who want music on the go carry around one of the following combinations:

Hello poster #393040540 who believes Apple designs their devices for YOU and YOU ALONE.

[Target362]

How bad, why just apple makes the ipod touch an i phone, one way or the other the ipod touch will be the sam than an iphone.

well its simple.


Many already own a cell phone and dont want a new one
many don't like ATT
Many do not want to pay for a 2 year contract.see?

[Beric]

How bad, why just apple makes the ipod touch an i phone, one way or the other the ipod touch will be the sam than an iphone.

See my sig.

[cvcc13]

Let's just wait and see what :apple: comes up with on 09.09.09! ;)

[beachy]

I want to buy the new Nano online, I did this last time because my daughter wanted the exclusive red chrome colour with engraving. Delivery was prompt.

Its my son's birthday on Sep 10 and he wants the "new" nano. If it means waiting weeks, then I'll just get him an "old" nano, if there are any left

My question is: how soon after the Sep 9 media event will products become available to buy from the online apple :apple: shop (Australia) ??

Thanks!

[Target362]

I want to buy the new Nano online, I did this last time because my daughter wanted the exclusive red chrome colour with engraving. Delivery was prompt.

Its my son's birthday on Sep 10 and he wants the "new" nano. If it means waiting weeks, then I'll just get him an "old" nano, if there are any left

My question is: how soon after the Sep 9 media event will products become available to buy from the online apple :apple: shop (Australia) ??

Thanks!

Not sure about Australia, but i know in the USA, most of the time the iPods are available right away.

now if the iPods wont be in the local stores till the 10th or 11th, you could consider it a late birthday present

[iSpartan745]

I think it's really interesting what they're doing with the iPod Touch. With every update it seems to be that they double the hard drive space so hopefully it'll be a 64GB. I'm totally stoked about the camera and I think the probability of placing the mic next to the lens is reasonable and pretty wicked.

But have you guys noticed within the last year or so, how big portable/mini video recorders are getting? I mean there's the Flip Mino/Ultra/HD and Kodak, Creative, etc. and more are running towards this market (btw, I'm not saying that Flip or any of the other companies made/started the original portable/mini vid recorders) Perhaps Apple is interested in joining the market.

As far as I'm concerned, the iPod touch may compete with devices like the Flip UltraHD or other HD mini-camcorders. Not sure if it's possible but maybe it'll have a camera that can record 720p video? Sure that's not HD but that's still pretty damn good for a handheld camera. And the iPod Nano will either be just a photo camera or be a low-end camcorder that can shoot VGA(or similar) resolution. Flash for those lenses may be a possibility but I think it's more likely that a mic will be there instead,

As much as I'd love to have native GPS functionality on my iPod touch, I highly doubt it. Mainly because of the fact that TomTom is making a dock for the iPhone and iPod touch that already has a gps receiver chip inside it. With that in mind, you really can't believe that Apple would even bother to put something in the iPod touch that the iPhone doesn't have (other than HD Space) But if I'm wrong, I'll be a very happy man. Unless if it's similar to the iPhone in which case, forget about it!

[iSpartan745]

Oh, I almost forgot. I, obviously, am planning on getting one of these babies. I just hope that Speck, SwitchEasy, and a couple other companies will have some pretty rad cases for it. BTW, does anyone know of a good matte-finished screen protector for the iPod Touch (at least for 2nd Gen, I doubt they'll change the dimensions of the 3rd Gen iPod Touch from the 2nd Gen)?

[Erasmus]

INot sure if it's possible but maybe it'll have a camera that can record 720p video? Sure that's not HD but that's still pretty damn good for a handheld camera.

Technically, 720p is High Definition. 1080p is Full High Definition. It's silly, I know. What are they going to call the next step? "Overly Gorged High Definition"? "Oh My God I Need My Stomach Pumped High Definition"?

As much as I'd love to have native GPS functionality on my iPod touch, I highly doubt it.

I still retain hope due to the camera (geotagging) and the fact it's a teensy 50c part that won't affect battery life in the slightest, so why not?

[alexknibb]

Hello poster #393040540 who believes Apple designs their devices for YOU and YOU ALONE.

What a nasty post. Honestly, if you don't have anything nice to say...

If you read my post, you'll see that I was clearly asking why OTHER people would need a camera in their iPod because from my point of view I couldn't see the benefit. I was asking for the opinions of other people because I was curious as to whether there was a benefit which I'd missed from having a camera in an iPod. Isn't that the point of a forum? Certainly, I'd say it was more useful input to a forum than nasty little messages from nasty little people*.

Anyway, rant aside, thanks to everyone else who replied. I guess I'm getting on a bit now, and it's hard for us old-timers to think of an iPod as anything more than a media player. The new functionality (if it appears as people have suggested) could be very cool, it's just something outside my sphere of experience. Whether I'll use any of it or not remains to be seen.

Either way, since my poor iPod 5G got injured in a buttock-related incident, I'm excited to see what's going to happen to the Classic. If it gets a camera and App Store support - which I suspect will require a redesign for screen size and format - with no hit on price, I'll be a happy fellow. If it stays as a pure (or pure-ish) media player, then I'll still be happy! :)

Looking forward to the 9th... :D




* ...and oh my God, it looks like you took out an account on MacRumors just to post this. Sad.

[Phrasikleia]

Skimmed through this thread and saw that a number of people are scratching their heads over why Apple would put a camera in an iPod. For the iPod touch, the obvious reason to my mind would be games, clearly the biggest marketing angle for this device. There is now a new generation of games that incorporate camera input, so of course Apple wouldn't want their gaming device to miss this boat.

Then add to that all of the points already mentioned (Facebook, etc.), and it makes perfect sense that Apple would see the camera as a necessity.

[iSpartan745]

@Alexknibb

The reason why they added cameras to the Touch and Nano is because they want to make more money and enter into different markets. It's as simple as that. Let me remind you that Apple is not some technological philanthropic organization, it's a business. And like all businesses, they're looking to grow and expand... Even if Apple is a giant. So for that reason, Apple is bringing their A-game (hopefully) to the handheld mini-camcorders market where Flip reigns.

That's right, Apple is planning to dethrone the King that is Flip Mino/Ultra and claim himself(or herself) AS KING!!!!

[alexknibb]

That's right, Apple is planning to dethrone the King that is Flip Mino/Ultra and claim himself(or herself) AS KING!!!!

Ooh, I'd not heard of that Flip thingy before. That's pretty darn sweet, isn't it? I always thought the free engraving on iPods was cool (although I could never settle on a suitable song lyric for mine), but the level of customisation on those Flips is astonishing. Now, if THAT came along for the iPods and you could put your own picture on, I'd be hoiking out my credit card in a New York minute! :D

Having said that, Apple's too anally retentive about their design ethos, so I guess it'll never happen. :(

Thanks for the link. Another gadget for me to lust over! :rolleyes:

[SactoGuy18]

In regards to the availability of the 5G iPod nano, 3G iPod touch and possibly 7G iPod classic: probably by 12 September in the retail Apple Stores, and one week later at other retail outlets.