'It's Only Rock And Roll' Banner and Last Minute iPod Production Problems? [Archive]

MacRumors

Sep 7, 2009, 06:45 PM

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Photo taken by Brad Immanuel (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bradimmanuel/3891346778/)

iPhone Savior (http://www.iphonesavior.com/2009/09/first-look-at-its-only-rock-and-roll-banner-at-yerba-buena-center.html) points to this photo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bradimmanuel/3891346778/) of the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts that Apple has decorated in anticipation of the "It's Only Rock and Roll" media event.

The lead up to the event has generated some speculation (http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-to-kill-off-ipod-classic-double-down-on-touch-iphone-developer-predicts-2009-9) about what Apple might be announcing. Apple is, of course, expected to update the majority of their iPod line as they have done for the past several years during their September media events.

The addition of a camera is the main feature rumored to be added to both the iPod nano and iPod touch. Appleinsider (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/09/07/technical_issues_could_delay_ipod_camera_upgrade.html), however, has posted a vague suggestion that the new iPods may arrive late due to last minute technical issues. HardMac (http://www.hardmac.com/news/2009/09/07/the-availability-of-the-new-ipod-touch-potentially-compromised) has a similar report with more details saying that the early iPods have been found to have a production defect: According to one of our reliable source (however, it remains a rumor), Apple is facing problems with the production of the new iPod Touch. The issue would be linked to the new camera module. We did not get any further details, but the problem has been spotted in the first dozen of thousands units produced. Those units have been put aside.
Given the scheduled media event, it seems that this might just delay production rather than the product's introduction on Wednesday.

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thegoldenmackid

Sep 7, 2009, 06:48 PM

Meh, it's not like the first Touch came out in record fashion.

musukosan

Sep 7, 2009, 06:48 PM

What time in California does these things usuallu start?

twoodcc

Sep 7, 2009, 06:49 PM

looking forward to the event for sure! is there any hope left for a tablet introduction?

anti-microsoft

Sep 7, 2009, 06:52 PM

I pray for something exciting!!

Ams.

AidenShaw

Sep 7, 2009, 06:52 PM

What time in California does these things usuallu start?

10:00

“Please join us for an invitation-only event at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts Theater in San Francisco on September 9 at 10:00 a.m. Registration begins at 9:00 a.m. Please arrive early,” Apple says. The invitations also include directions to the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Apple-Confirms-September-Event-120595.shtml

Godzilla71

Sep 7, 2009, 06:53 PM

10:00

am PST ;)

noodle654

Sep 7, 2009, 06:54 PM

I am ready for the new iTunes. But, looking forward to see what Apple does with the iPod line.

LAS.mac

Sep 7, 2009, 06:57 PM

Probably it's just me, but it's not very appealing an event just for some ipod's.
I think something it's hidden underneath :apple: magic hat...

Micjose

Sep 7, 2009, 06:57 PM

show me what you got apple!

rgarjr

Sep 7, 2009, 06:58 PM

I'm due for an Ipod nano..

Airforcekid

Sep 7, 2009, 06:58 PM

As long as there shipping by black friday it wont hurt too much besides most people dont know they upgraded until they see a new one on display 3 months later.

AidenShaw

Sep 7, 2009, 07:00 PM

am PST ;)

Actually, it's 10:00 PDT :p

(too used to 24 hour clocks, 10:00 cannot be confused with 22:00)

zelmo

Sep 7, 2009, 07:04 PM

If these is a problem, better to discover it before the units hit customers.

jaw04005

Sep 7, 2009, 07:06 PM

Here's to hoping they redesign the VoiceOver-enabled iPod shuffle complete with playback buttons.

I also hope they add voice commands for audiobooks and podcasts to the iPhone.

toujames

Sep 7, 2009, 07:07 PM

That Poster is BIG!!!:eek: how many ink cartridges does it take to print that up!!

appleguy

Sep 7, 2009, 07:08 PM

new ipods deff..
look at the poster the headphone socket is at the bottom.
so is it a new nano? touch? classic?

Thex1138

Sep 7, 2009, 07:09 PM

Technical issues with the product itself delaying introduction??
Hmm they've been manufacturing these things for a bit longer than a week I suspect, it's more a case of quantities or supply line delays rather than the product itself.
You think that before distribution they'll crack each box open and get out a screwdriver??? or plug every one of them into a cradle and re-image them, box and send them on their way??
They make millions of these things each week, up to 3 months prior to introduction...
The only delay would have been earlier on in manufacture, for example a late start in the factory due to manufacture procedure delays.

Bjohnson33

Sep 7, 2009, 07:10 PM

My biggest wish is for a new version og iTunes that fixes the syncing issues with the 2G shuffle!

BJB Productions

Sep 7, 2009, 07:11 PM

Although I am bummed the iPods may not be available the day of the Keynote, better to find these problems now than later.

corinhorn

Sep 7, 2009, 07:11 PM

looking forward to the event for sure! is there any hope left for a tablet introduction?
No. It's only rock and roll.

Here's to hoping they redesign the VoiceOver-enabled iPod shuffle complete with playback buttons.

+1, but doubtful.

The current Shuffle is so superfluously small, it could get lost in my belly button.

macshill

Sep 7, 2009, 07:13 PM

Just in case the iPod Classic bites the bullet tomorrow.

http://i32.tinypic.com/r7oc5h.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/2iiddlj.jpg

According to Apple Insider, the iPod Touch with camera might be delayed to a problem.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/09/07/technical_issues_could_delay_ipod_camera_upgrade.html

SFStateStudent

Sep 7, 2009, 07:14 PM

Yaaawwwwwnnn. :rolleyes: Can these things get any more boring??? Wake me up when it's over. :(

jessica.

Sep 7, 2009, 07:17 PM

No. It's only rock and roll.

+1, but doubtful.

The current Shuffle is so superfluously small, it could get lost in my belly button.

I'd like to see said belly button then, that'd be amazing. :D

That said, if a camera is causing problems then I have to question how they're finding out the night before their own event. :rolleyes:

miketcool

Sep 7, 2009, 07:18 PM

PBF

Sep 7, 2009, 07:19 PM

Why does it always have to be a white lady on the banner? :(

Burnsey

Sep 7, 2009, 07:20 PM

Looking forward to this event, should be interesting.

mathcolo

Sep 7, 2009, 07:20 PM

Just in case the iPod Classic bites the bullet tomorrow.[image redacted]

That... (pause 3 seconds) is pure genius. I hope it comes true! Who needs the iPod classic anymore?

puckhead193

Sep 7, 2009, 07:20 PM

Just in case the iPod Classic bites the bullet tomorrow.

wednesday*

macshill

Sep 7, 2009, 07:24 PM

wednesday*

Oh. Thank you. That's right. Damn Labor/Labour Day. :p

macshill

Sep 7, 2009, 07:25 PM

Why does it always have to be a white lady on the banner? :(

Dude, she's blue! ;) :p

Never any plus-size BBBW (big beautiful Black women). Jackee Harry on the banner... can I get an "amen" here (actually, a '227')?

electroshock

Sep 7, 2009, 07:26 PM

If Steve shows up on stage and says 'Oh, one more thing... you can buy Beatles tunes at the ITMS now', I'm going to cry/laugh/cry/jump/roll/uh, don't know what else. :D

Not holding breath given Apple Records' history with 'the other Apple', but if that ever happens in my own lifetime, I'll be pretty thrilled. Even more so if it's in two days from now. :)

puckhead193

Sep 7, 2009, 07:26 PM

Oh. Thank you. That's right. Damn Labor/Labour Day. :p

i know...i'm busy on Wednesday (dam why do i have to start my new job... don't they know there is an apple event :rolleyes:)

:p

Compile 'em all

Sep 7, 2009, 07:27 PM

iTunes 9 and firmware 3.1.

You read it here first :p

techfreak85

Sep 7, 2009, 07:29 PM

iTunes 9 and firmware 3.1.

You read it here first :p
Wow! I never would have guessed!:D

Diaresi

Sep 7, 2009, 07:30 PM

If Steve shows up on stage and says 'Oh, one more thing... you can buy Beatles tunes at the ITMS now', I'm going to cry/laugh/cry/jump/roll/uh, don't know what else. :D

1. Purchase The Beatles Remastered Box Set

2. Rip it all

3. Why so much excitement for it to be on the iTunes Store?

KnightWRX

Sep 7, 2009, 07:31 PM

Why does it always have to be a white lady on the banner? :(

How do you know she's white ?

nemaslov

Sep 7, 2009, 07:32 PM

240 or 320 Classic please.

nemaslov

Sep 7, 2009, 07:34 PM

Eidorian

Sep 7, 2009, 07:34 PM

After lacking interest in anything Apple for some time I'm looking forward to the new iPods.

It should tide me over until the Lynnfield, P55, and Radeon HD 58xx launch day price fest dies down.

nemaslov

Sep 7, 2009, 07:34 PM

Have respect for amazing fidelity and buy the remastered CDS. Downloads won't be much cheaper (and they won't come to iTunes on Wednesday).

TraceyS/FL

Sep 7, 2009, 07:37 PM

i know...i'm busy on Wednesday (dam why do i have to start my new job... don't they know there is an apple event :rolleyes:)

:p

I scheduled a doctors appointment for a kid. I must remember to put these apple events on my schedule! LOL!!

nemaslov

Sep 7, 2009, 07:38 PM

That... (pause 3 seconds) is pure genius. I hope it comes true! Who needs the iPod classic anymore?

We are not as many as you touchies but there is a whole lotta people who want huge collections of music with us at work, play, DJs, second homes, studios, on the road and can't fit all that music on a tiuch. IT'S the music and with 300+GBs on my mac so far, I would love to have it all with me everywhere.

PBF

Sep 7, 2009, 07:38 PM

How do you know she's white ?
Ah, c'mon, look at 'em boots! Straight hair! Posture! Don't tell me, ya see a black lady there! :(

http://www.vulomedia.com/images/14990whitelady.jpg

Peace

Sep 7, 2009, 07:38 PM

The "person" in the ad is neither black nor white nor any other color.

It's a silhouette (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silhouette)

cargoplex

Sep 7, 2009, 07:40 PM

Pssh... it's only the first dozen of thousands units, they'll just sweep those under the rug. ;)

MrCrowbar

Sep 7, 2009, 07:41 PM

new ipods deff..
look at the poster the headphone socket is at the bottom.
so is it a new nano? touch? classic?

That's one of the dance moves where you flip it upside down. ;)

PBF

Sep 7, 2009, 07:41 PM

It's a silhouette (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silhouette)
...of a white lady. :(

KnightWRX

Sep 7, 2009, 07:41 PM

Ah, c'mon, look at 'em boots! Straight hair! Posture! Don't tell me, ya see a black lady there! :(

Posture and boots don't mean squat about race. Straight hair, maybe... but then again, she could be asian, hispanic or even black and still have straight hair.

I'm sorry you can only see this as "yet another white lady" when she's pretty much race agnostic. Stop reading too much into the lady.

corinhorn

Sep 7, 2009, 07:44 PM

...of a white lady. :(You obviously only see what you want to see.

MrCrowbar

Sep 7, 2009, 07:45 PM

Posture and boots don't mean squat about race. Straight hair, maybe... but then again, she could be asian, hispanic or even black and still have straight hair.

I'm sorry you can only see this as "yet another white lady" when she's pretty much race agnostic. Stop reading too much into the lady.

Could be a dude... or... errrm ever been to thailand? :D
I remember some afro wearing silhouettes from iPod ads. Been a while though.

tabasco70

Sep 7, 2009, 07:46 PM

They better not kill off the iPod touch..

Chupa Chupa

Sep 7, 2009, 07:51 PM

They better not kill off the iPod touch..

Why would they kill off the Touch? That is the iPod's current and future. The Classic is the only one under pressure, though I think it may get a stay of execution for another year.

clayj

Sep 7, 2009, 07:52 PM

All I really care about on Wednesday is new iPod Touches with at least a 48 GB capacity, so that I can put ALL of my music on one of them. Then I can finally get rid of these HD-based iPods (5G 60 GB iPod, 160 GB iPod Classic).

Prabz26

Sep 7, 2009, 07:53 PM

where can i follow this
engadget link or somin?????

leomac08

Sep 7, 2009, 07:53 PM

They better not kill off the iPod touch..

what?!!!!!!!! lol

i think the ipod classic will die.

R.I.P, it was a good 9 year run...

the future is the ipod touch.

Mr. Giver '94

Sep 7, 2009, 07:56 PM

Sorry for the n00b question, but will there be MR Live coverage?

BJB Productions

Sep 7, 2009, 08:08 PM

Sorry for the n00b question, but will there be MR Live coverage?

There should be...There has been in the past?

mrstep

Sep 7, 2009, 08:09 PM

Have respect for amazing fidelity and buy the remastered CDS. Downloads won't be much cheaper (and they won't come to iTunes on Wednesday).

Amazing fidelity - maybe if they release SACD versions that day, otherwise I guess we can have respect for better fidelity than AAC anyway. Too bad the format is dead, but damn it sounded better than CD. :(

MacFly123

Sep 7, 2009, 08:09 PM

I'm excited for the event! :D

I highly doubt that they are having any type of big problem. It's not like Apple can't figure out how to put a camera on the iPods. Especially the SAME camera that is already in the iPhone lol. They might ship in a week or two at the worst probably.

I also am excited for a new iTunes. I just hope there is something cool besides stupid social networking features.

I'm hoping for an Apple TV update too, but I am not holding my breath. And I know the Tablet won't be out till next year.

The Samurai

Sep 7, 2009, 08:14 PM

Sorry for the n00b question, but will there be MR Live coverage?

I hope there is. And I hope the feed doesn't get hijacked like it did a few months back.

pika2000

Sep 7, 2009, 08:17 PM

That said, if a camera is causing problems then I have to question how they're finding out the night before their own event. :rolleyes:
Due to the secretive nature of Apple, I wouldn't be surprised if there are some flaws/bugs that slipped by the few (if any) beta testers. iPods have quite a history of issues (buzzing noise on the 2G nano, misaligned screen on the 3G nano, screen issues on the 1G Touch, etc).

A slight delay would be fine, but the ZuneHD is peeking near the corner in less than a week.

dew321

Sep 7, 2009, 08:27 PM

Could be a dude... or... errrm ever been to thailand? :D
I remember some afro wearing silhouettes from iPod ads. Been a while though.

HA! [shudder of recognition]

Okay, first: No, the Classic won't be discontinued. It will likely stay exactly where it is, because second: the Touch will only get bumped up to 64 GB. Since there's still demand for an iPod with higher capacity, the Classic needs to stick around. My guess is that by next fall, 128 GB NANDs (or whatever they use) will come down in price enough to put them in the Touches and discontinue the Classic. Third, I think that a delay seems pretty reasonable and might explain why TomTom delayed the release of their mounting kit for the iPhone. My theory is the Touch will get a GPS chip, and TomTom is holding off releasing the kit until everything is available (Maybe they have something in the documentation that mentions the Touch, and they need to keep it quiet until an announcement about a GPS chip in the Touch). But I'm totally reaching on that one.

mac jones

Sep 7, 2009, 08:29 PM

Why does it always have to be a white lady on the banner? :(

Blue lady.

gan6660

Sep 7, 2009, 08:30 PM

If the ipods do get delayed at least Ill have my Zune HD to hold me over until I can get the ipod.

Rocketman

Sep 7, 2009, 08:31 PM

If Steve shows up on stage and says 'Oh, one more thing... you can buy Beatles tunes at the ITMS now'

Dude, even if he does, he almost died first!

Blaine

Sep 7, 2009, 08:33 PM

Why does it always have to be a white lady on the banner? :(

What's wrong with white women?

;)

chevyorange

Sep 7, 2009, 08:35 PM

what?!!!!!!!! lol

i think the ipod classic will die.

R.I.P, it was a good 9 year run...

the future is the ipod touch.

I used to be one of those people who wondered who needed 80GB for their music.

Now I'm one of those people who needs the storage. As much as I love the iPod touch I can't use one as my main mobile media device until it holds 80GB or MORE.

I'd also love an iPhone with a 120GB hd too, now that I'm making demands!

I hope the classic stays around awhile longer if there is not a giant increase in storage for the touch. :apple:

mac jones

Sep 7, 2009, 08:35 PM

It's interesting this about the timing of this and the Beatles. That Beatles Rock Star game looks like it's going to be a lot of fun.

realgenius

Sep 7, 2009, 08:36 PM

With the remastered Beatles albums coming out and the Beatles Rock Band, I'm surprised there are no "Beatles on iTunes" rumors.

ozzyman500

Sep 7, 2009, 08:37 PM

I won't lie, I would enjoy it if Apple respected us consumers and allowed third party music player support through iTunes. Let the hating begin, but I would love to take my music with me ANYWHERE on ANYTHING. Amazon has been picking up my business as of late...

What the hell's your point? Amazon sells CD's or MP3's. And they even import it right to your iTunes. You can use CD's for any media of your desire and MP3's of course already play on everything - so I don't see what your complaining about.

And if you want to use your AAC files anywhere else you can use Winamp or foobar.

bchreng

Sep 7, 2009, 08:40 PM

I can't wait to see the new iPod Touch w/camera once it hits stores. Here's hoping that it'll ship with a 'HD' camera like Creative Vado HD or the Flip MinoHD.

Lesser Evets

Sep 7, 2009, 08:43 PM

Even if there is a production problem, I doubt the supply of iPods won't be more than a week away. They'll just announce now and ship in a few days right from the factory in Shanghai or wherever.

Why does it always have to be a white lady on the banner? :(

Because trolls like you don't grow on trees.

JeffDM

Sep 7, 2009, 08:46 PM

Actually, it's 10:00 PDT :p

(too used to 24 hour clocks, 10:00 cannot be confused with 22:00)

I don't see it as a problem in this case, I don't recall Apple EVER doing an evening event.

Ah, c'mon, look at 'em boots! Straight hair! Posture! Don't tell me, ya see a black lady there! :(

Another thing to ask, is *who* dances like that?! Pretty dorky looking to me.

Amazing fidelity - maybe if they release SACD versions that day, otherwise I guess we can have respect for better fidelity than AAC anyway. Too bad the format is dead, but damn it sounded better than CD. :(

If they made CDs without using dynamic range compression, I wonder how many people would be able to tell the difference.

Mr. Gates

Sep 7, 2009, 09:01 PM

iSamurai

Sep 7, 2009, 09:02 PM

If there is a problem with the camera module then they should give the ipods away for free :D

BJB Productions

Sep 7, 2009, 09:05 PM

JeffDM

Sep 7, 2009, 09:06 PM

If they put a camera on this new iPod it will totally turn me off from Apple products for the next 5 years until they make up there mind. The only thing I could really hope for, the only thing that I would like to see is a 128 gig solid state iPod touch ( i know never gonna happen )

What do you mean about making up their mind? Why would a camera be such a turn-off?

Besides 128gb touch will almost certainly happen, but you will need to wait until next year.

Now they are all about the gimmick

" slap a camera an it, all those suckers will eat it up heh heh "

the only camera I want to see is a FRONT FACEING CAMERA !!!!!! .............jeez

You don't say how a front faceing (sp) camera is innovative. A front facing camera *is* a gimmick, if you mean if it points the direction of the screen. It's either for taking pictures of your self (pretty vain, IMO) or for video conferencing, which nobody does, or almost nobody, the few that do don't seem to admit to using it. Maybe some people will use it to play with it, but the feature will probably be forgotten by most people within a week of purchase.

Eric S.

Sep 7, 2009, 09:06 PM

i think the ipod classic will die.

R.I.P, it was a good 9 year run...

Who says it's going to die? I plan on using mine for a long time to come.

Another thing to ask, is *who* dances like that?!

Elaine Benes.

applealex

Sep 7, 2009, 09:08 PM

how long will it take Best Buy to get the news iPods after the announcement?

Mr. Gates

Sep 7, 2009, 09:13 PM

It will happen, just wait until next year.

A front facing camera *is* a gimmick, if you mean if it points the direction of the screen. It's either for taking pictures of your self (pretty vain, IMO) or for video conferencing, which nobody does, or almost nobody, the few that do don't seem to admit to using it. Maybe some people will use it to play with it, but the feature will probably be forgotten by most people within a week of purchase.

I guess that may be true for most, but if you have Family Far away and would like to see there face while on the go, It would be nice.

rwilliams

Sep 7, 2009, 09:17 PM

1. Purchase The Beatles Remastered Box Set

2. Rip it all

3. Why so much excitement for it to be on the iTunes Store?

I don't get that either. I've never liked the Beatles, but I would imagine that anyone with a true appreciation for them would NEVER dream of buying their music through iTunes.

Firefly2002

Sep 7, 2009, 09:18 PM

I pray for something exciting!!

Ams.

I'm trying to sleep, quit pestering me with prayer.

Mjmar

Sep 7, 2009, 09:19 PM

KnightWRX

Sep 7, 2009, 09:21 PM

teleromeo

Sep 7, 2009, 09:24 PM

1. Purchase The Beatles Remastered Box Set

2. Rip it all

3. Why so much excitement for it to be on the iTunes Store?

1. I bought the CD's when they got introduced 20 years ago

2. I ripped them all and never play any CD anymore.

3. There are some songs missing since I only bought the original CD's, no compilations. I would like to complete my collection with a few songs that were only released as a single.

rwilliams

Sep 7, 2009, 09:27 PM

queshy

Sep 7, 2009, 09:32 PM

how long will it take Best Buy to get the news iPods after the announcement?

Suppose they're "available now" after the announcement, and shipping in the next 24 hrs, then BB will have them no later than 2 weeks after usually.

queshy

Sep 7, 2009, 09:33 PM

I think we will be seeing an updated shuffle -- the current model has gotten a really bad rap.

I also hope they don't kill the high capacity classic.

A camera on the iPod touch and on iPod nano makes sense. Add wifi to the iPod nano and you can turn it into a "upload photos/videos to youtube/facebook" kind of device that people will like.

dergaderg

Sep 7, 2009, 09:42 PM

I think that the new ipod nano/touch will be a Flip killer

applealex

Sep 7, 2009, 09:44 PM

Suppose they're "available now" after the announcement, and shipping in the next 24 hrs, then BB will have them no later than 2 weeks after usually.

lets hope it's a lot sooner. I plan to get the new touch this weekend so if they won't have it I might as well order of Apple.com Wednesday

applealex

Sep 7, 2009, 09:49 PM

The same old iPods now with a camera is indeed lame. Especially considering that if you're so into device consolidation that you can sacrifice picture quality, you probably already have a phone with a camera. The obvious next step is not moving your camera to your digital media player, it's moving your digital media to your phone, finally giving you the One device.

And if you're not into device consolidation at all and just want the best media player, best phone and best camera, well, again, this doesn't help.

I guess digital cameras are the 2000s version of the digital clock. It used to be people joked about product development as : "how can we make this product better ? Throw a digital clock on it and ship!".

I don't have a camera phone, I bet you this camera will be better than most cellphone cameras because of the new autofocus, autoexposure and such. the majority of the photos taken will be of teenagers posing and they'll be destined for MySpace where everyone cares about how "hawt" the person looks over quality of the photo

NT1440

Sep 7, 2009, 09:52 PM

Probably it's just me, but it's not very appealing an event just for some ipod's.
I think something it's hidden underneath :apple: magic hat...

And its this thinking that leaves everyone on these forums bitching EVERY YEAR. We know its an itunes/ipod event, get over it people.

hexonxonx

Sep 7, 2009, 09:52 PM

I don't get that either. I've never liked the Beatles, but I would imagine that anyone with a true appreciation for them would NEVER dream of buying their music through iTunes.

Why? They are no different that any of the other bands that people buy music from everyday.

hexonxonx

Sep 7, 2009, 09:53 PM

And its this thinking that leaves everyone on these forums bitching EVERY YEAR. We know its an itunes/ipod event, get over it people.

Every year they hold an event just for iPods. I just don't understand why people think there has to be more to it.

str1f3

Sep 7, 2009, 09:55 PM

I agree. A phone slapped onto the iPod Touch & Nano isn't going to make a lot of people want to run out to buy the new models. As you said, if they're happy with the mediocre picture quality that an iPod would produce, then the vast majority of them already have similar cameras in their phones.

What would you like instead of a camera and probably a microphone? For it to hover or create a hologram image?

Many people would use that camera. The iPhone is the most popular camera on Flickr. As for the mediocrity of the photo, who cares? There is nothing wrong with a camera that takes average pictures. For most that's enough. You will get mediocre photos from anything other than a $700 (minimum) SLR.

hexonxonx

Sep 7, 2009, 09:57 PM

What would you like instead of a camera and probably a microphone? For it to hover or create a hologram image?

Many people would use that camera. The iPhone is the most popular camera on Flickr. As for the mediocrity of the photo, who cares? There is nothing wrong with a camera that takes average pictures. For most that's enough. You will get mediocre photos from anything other than a $700 (minimum) SLR.

I once paid $999 for a Sony digtal camera that was 3.4MP. That was about 8 years ago and I still use it. I never dreamed that my cell phone would be just under that resolution. Back then 3.4MP was crystal clear.

NT1440

Sep 7, 2009, 09:58 PM

Every year they hold an event just for iPods. I just don't understand why people think there has to be more to it.

Exactly, and if there is its only other small things, nothing life altering, otherwise it would have its OWN event.

creon

Sep 7, 2009, 09:58 PM

I'll be interested to see if the tablet it revealed. If so, I'm buying.

Firefly2002

Sep 7, 2009, 10:01 PM

I once paid $999 for a Sony digtal camera that was 3.4MP. That was about 8 years ago and I still use it. I never dreamed that my cell phone would be just under that resolution. Back then 3.4MP was crystal clear.

Your 3.4 MP camera's probably a lot more "crystal clear" than the upcoming iPod cameras.

Resolution doesn't guarantee quality... there are plenty of high-res, ******-image cameras out there.

hexonxonx

Sep 7, 2009, 10:02 PM

Your 3.4 MP camera's probably a lot more "crystal clear" than the upcoming iPod cameras.

Resolution doesn't guarantee quality... there are plenty of high-res, ******-image cameras out there.

True, I forgot it also had a Carl Zeis lens.

Compufix

Sep 7, 2009, 10:05 PM

What the hell's your point? Amazon sells CD's or MP3's. And they even import it right to your iTunes. You can use CD's for any media of your desire and MP3's of course already play on everything - so I don't see what your complaining about.

And if you want to use your AAC files anywhere else you can use Winamp or foobar.

What people STILL don't understand is that YOU CAN use third party devices, in a supported manner with iTunes via the XML file structure. All the third party device company needs to do is write a lil front end program that reads that XML file and you have full access to the music (with exception to DRM stuff of course).

I really wish people would just give it up already. Apple has every right to not allow other third parties to use their iTunes, which is entirely living for you to organize your music and support APPLE products...

I done see people bashing the Zune Marketplace and application for not allowing other third party music players....but hey....

Beric

Sep 7, 2009, 10:05 PM

how long will it take Best Buy to get the news iPods after the announcement?

Well, I'll be waiting for a place to sell it out of state (CA sales tax is painful) and preferably with some amenity, like a rock bottom price, or a free case like MacMall does (which is unfortunately in CA).

rwilliams

Sep 7, 2009, 10:06 PM

Why? They are no different that any of the other bands that people buy music from everyday.

No, they're not. They're probably the most legendary band EVER, whose music is damn near worshiped by a lot of people. As I said, I'm no fan of theirs, but from what I've read and heard, true Beatles fans would never buy some compressed digital version of their songs.

jaw04005

Sep 7, 2009, 10:10 PM

Every year they hold an event just for iPods. I just don't understand why people think there has to be more to it.

It's not always just for iPods. Generally, iTunes and the iTunes Store both receive some type of update. Additionally, we first learned of Apple TV at the "It's Showtime" September event in 2006.

Drag'nGT

Sep 7, 2009, 10:11 PM

Sorry for the n00b question, but will there be MR Live coverage?

I usually watch the keynote on iTunes once I get home that night.

hexonxonx

Sep 7, 2009, 10:13 PM

It's not always just for iPods. Generally, iTunes and the iTunes Store both receive some type of update. Additionally, we first learned of Apple TV at the "It's Showtime" September event in 2006.

An Apple TV fits in perfectly with the iPod event since it is an entertainment device just as iTunes and the iPhone software updates.

A new laptop wouldn't belong at this event like others are hoping for.

applealex

Sep 7, 2009, 10:13 PM

Well, I'll be waiting for a place to sell it out of state (CA sales tax is painful) and preferably with some amenity, like a rock bottom price, or a free case like MacMall does (which is unfortunately in CA).

True, $18 tax for a $230 purchase *sigh*

i'd head out to Nevada or up to Oregon but I don't think the savings would be much if anything when you subtract the cost of gas money

plus, you have to connect to iTunes and register an iPod touch after purchase. that'll be a very relaxed 8 hour car ride back home

Sambo110

Sep 7, 2009, 10:13 PM

What time does the event start in Australian time?

rwilliams

Sep 7, 2009, 10:13 PM

What would you like instead of a camera and probably a microphone? For it to hover or create a hologram image?

Something new or innovative, but maybe they're running out of things to do with the iPod. I'm only speaking for myself, but a camera and microphone aren't new features that make me want to go buy the new iPods. Maybe the next revision will bring something special.

CharBroiled20s

Sep 7, 2009, 10:14 PM

I won't lie, I would enjoy it if Apple respected us consumers and allowed third party music player support through iTunes. Let the hating begin, but I would love to take my music with me ANYWHERE on ANYTHING. Amazon has been picking up my business as of late...

I haven't purchased anything with Amazon, but I actually second that notion.

It's viewed as a possible game ending mistake it seems, but I foresee cars with hard drives (my last caddy had one) but with a twist, WiFi! Imagine wireless syncing an itunes library directly to your car!

talk about a techno orgy... I'd be like a pig in sh....... you get the idea

Plus, they'd pickup (maybe) double the customers from 3rd party devices.... Maybe they could admit wacky (embedded) devices first to avoid lawsuits and the loss of iPod revenues.... Who knows, but I want!

hexonxonx

Sep 7, 2009, 10:14 PM

As I said, I'm no fan of theirs, but from what I've read and heard, true Beatles fans would never buy some compressed digital version of their songs.

Ummmm right.

rwilliams

Sep 7, 2009, 10:16 PM

Ummmm right.

I'm speaking of the people I know personally who are huge Beatles fans. They laugh at the thought of people going to iTunes to buy Beatles records.

hexonxonx

Sep 7, 2009, 10:17 PM

I'm speaking of the people I know personally who are huge Beatles fans. They laugh at the thought of people going to iTunes to buy Beatles records.

Make no mistake about it, if they do appear on iTunes, there will be thousands and thousands of albums sold.

CharBroiled20s

Sep 7, 2009, 10:18 PM

Why does it always have to be a white lady on the banner? :(

Ah, c'mon, look at 'em boots! Straight hair! Posture! Don't tell me, ya see a black lady there! :(

Are you serious?!?!?!?!??!?!

Why is it always a race thing with people????!!!!!!!

Hate to break it to you, but some things aren't race related... She's a BLUE shapeless silhouette... whats the problem?

...of a white lady. :(

Eat a toaster strudel and chill the F out

andyplace

Sep 7, 2009, 10:18 PM

To iPod classic lovers:

It's not going away Wednesday. If it was, then why would there be one in this picture

http://images.macrumors.com/article/2009/09/07/183226-3891346778_07029e8d35_300.jpg

Beric

Sep 7, 2009, 10:19 PM

True, $18 tax for a $230 purchase *sigh*

i'd head out to Nevada or up to Oregon but I don't think the savings would be much if anything when you subtract the cost of gas money

plus, you have to connect to iTunes and register an iPod touch after purchase. that'll be a very relaxed 8 hour car ride back home

Right. I'm probably gonna go for the 32GB model, rumored at $300, so out-of-state is a 30% savings. I go up to Montana every year, but unfortunately that's August, right before the event.

rwilliams

Sep 7, 2009, 10:19 PM

Make no mistake about it, if they do appear on iTunes, there will be thousands and thousands of albums sold.

Oh, I'm sure, although I could never imagine buying classic music from that era online in anything less than FLAC format. Guess I'm one of the old guard of music buyers. :)

thejakill

Sep 7, 2009, 10:20 PM

I love the new iPod shuffle. It's perfect for mountain biking. I understand why people bitch about it, but I don't mind the earbuds at all and I find the controls easy to use.

There can't be many more years left for traditional iPods. It's sad, but that's progress for you.

KnightWRX

Sep 7, 2009, 10:25 PM

To iPod classic lovers:

It's not going away Wednesday. If it was, then why would there be one in this picture

Because that's an iPod Touch, not a classic. The classic has the headphone jack on top, that picture has the headphone jack on the bottom.

I don't have a camera phone, I bet you this camera will be better than most cellphone cameras because of the new autofocus, autoexposure and such. the majority of the photos taken will be of teenagers posing and they'll be destined for MySpace where everyone cares about how "hawt" the person looks over quality of the photo

This camera won't be any better than the camera on the current iPhone. Apple isn't that dumb. And most of those teenagers do have a camera phone.

Again, you offered no insight as to why someone that is into device consolidation would want to move the camera to his digital media player. A phone that can also play videos/music with a camera is a much smarter idea because then you have exactly 1 device for everything, instead of carrying multiple devices around.

Not to say Apple won't do it, there will probably be a camera on the touch to bring it to feature parity with the iPhone, but a camera equipped Nano and Classic is a lame idea. And if that's the only thing new besides storage in the iPod world, it's even lamer.

Mr. Gates

Sep 7, 2009, 10:25 PM

I'm speaking of the people I know personally who are huge Beatles fans. They laugh at the thought of people going to iTunes to buy Beatles records.

I laugh at the thought of digital music all together! Good old LP's work just fine in my humble opinion

Beric

Sep 7, 2009, 10:25 PM

Oh, I'm sure, although I could never imagine buying classic music from that era online. Guess I'm one of the old guard of music buyers. :)

Well, I listen to music 10x as old as the Beatles. I'm ripped my Dad's whole CD collection, but believe it or not, a lot of good-quality Classical can be found online (I use Amazon and eMusic). And it's nice to be able to buy exactly and only what you want, not the 10th copy of Beethoven's 5th or something, like might be on CD.

Are you serious?!?!?!?!??!?!

Why is it always a race thing with people????!!!!!!!

Hate to break it to you, but some things aren't race related... She's BLUE

The lady on the banner is blue, not green. As such it's clearly racist towards green people. Deny that, and you're racist. ;)

gugy

Sep 7, 2009, 10:30 PM

I am hoping AppleTV update is somewhere in this event. it's about time, almost 3 years!

rols

Sep 7, 2009, 10:37 PM

I'll be interested to see if the tablet it revealed. If so, I'm buying.

It won't be.

SpaceKitty

Sep 7, 2009, 10:39 PM

To iPod classic lovers:

It's not going away Wednesday. If it was, then why would there be one in this picture

I'll likely be buying one again this year just because it may be the last year they are available.

Right now I have two Classics, one for all my videos which doesn't fit on the 160GB, and a 120GB for music which only has about 30GB space left.

Yes, some of us do like allot of storage space.

Thex1138

Sep 7, 2009, 10:42 PM

If you haven't yet seen the Beatles Re-Mastered Ads you might also notice the distinctive iTunes interface in some of the shots and pricing...
The promo's all appear to point to iTunes.
In some of the promo's they also include Guitar Hero and other interactive Beatles stuff... It's looking like a big release folks!

wackymacky

Sep 7, 2009, 10:43 PM

I pray for something exciting!!

Ams.

Like a faulty product, then having a battle with Apple until they finally accept that it's the iPod that's faulty and NOT that you dropped it or put in the microwave.

How can I really get excited by a camera in a touch, or nano. I've already got the phone for g** sake.

If they were to introduce the tablet, (which they won't), it would be worth getting out of be for.

corinhorn

Sep 7, 2009, 10:47 PM

The lady on the banner is blue, not green. As such it's clearly racist towards green people. Deny that, and you're racist. ;)
LOL :D

I really hope that all the new iPods are white, so I am obviously a racist.

macjiro

Sep 7, 2009, 10:48 PM

Chundles

Sep 7, 2009, 10:51 PM

What time does the event start in Australian time?

Sparrow-fart on Thursday morning.

ob81

Sep 7, 2009, 10:53 PM

BTW

Sep 7, 2009, 10:54 PM

If they're a bit late that's no prob. Being late hasn't stopped Apple before. They just want to announce it for conparison sake with the Zune HD.

progx

Sep 7, 2009, 11:04 PM

It's only knock and know all, but I like it.

To quote Genesis' "It" from the Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, in parody of the it's only rock and roll.

As long as it rolls out this year, I'll be a happy new iPod owner. Got a bad feeling about the iPod Classic, I think its end is near :-(

CanadianMac2008

Sep 7, 2009, 11:05 PM

[QUOTE=applealex;8437083]True, $18 tax for a $230 purchase *sigh*

Wow that sounds truly aweful! (not) lol.

Here in Ontario, Canada, that $230 purchase would cost us $29.9 in tax. And don't forget that we also pay more for our iProducts, $259 for an 8GB iPod touch.

I would love to be paying that little, wanna swap taxes? :)

applealex

Sep 7, 2009, 11:06 PM

I don't know about you guys, but the whole iPod refresh has gotten kind of boring. More space, some feature that I may not need anyway. The iPod touch was the last real release that made leaps in the iPod world, but these days, all the touch does is mimick the phone. The other iPods are mainly getting more capacity.

Hopefully there is something else in line on this upcoming event.

Do you want it to come around and clean your windows?

I wish people who complain about this would include what they want

sure a camera and a mic aren't the most fantastic of upgrades but what else can they do beyond OLED, FM radio, and a compass with GPS?

jaw04005

Sep 7, 2009, 11:09 PM

I am hoping AppleTV update is somewhere in this event. it's about time, almost 3 years!

I guess you mean hardware update considering we've had one major and five minor software updates since the Apple TV launched in March of 2007.

Personally, I think they'll drop the 160GB Apple TV down to the 40GB price and call it a deal. Maybe we'll see another minor software update.

Unfortunately, Jim Dalrymple (of Mac Central and Macworld fame) has said there will be no Apple TV update in September. He's about as well connected as anybody including Gruber.

http://www.loopinsight.com/2009/09/02/sources-confirm-no-apple-tv-at-apples-september-event/

It's sad how Apple is completely neglecting this product especially considering Front Row development is practically dead.

Apple TV is one of those Apple products that likely has an interesting backstory. Someone will come forth and we'll get the exposé eventually. We used to have a Macrumors member who worked on the Apple TV team. However, he hasn't posted in awhile.

cuestakid

Sep 7, 2009, 11:10 PM

If you are going to the event Wednesday, don't forget the Bay Bridge will be closed at least till early Wed morning now. At least...meaning it could possibly be closed on Wednesday. Keep that in mind with your travels.

This is kind of random but how many of the attendees of these one-off events are from out of town? Like does someone just fly into the Bay Area for the day then leave? I know places like CNET, PCMag/PCWorld are local but what about Engadget or Gizmodo?

Beric

Sep 7, 2009, 11:12 PM

True, $18 tax for a $230 purchase *sigh*

Wow that sounds truly aweful! (not) lol.

Here in Ontario, Canada, that $230 purchase would cost us $29.9 in tax. And don't forget that we also pay more for our iProducts, $259 for an 8GB iPod touch.

I would love to be paying that little, wanna swap taxes? :)

That's a crazy tax level. I myself am still groaning over the fact that I bought my Macbook from the Apple store 2 years and paid the $100 sales tax, recycling fee, etc.

But yeah, I barely buy anything technology-related product in a real store anymore. Too many better deals online, and tax free.

inkswamp

Sep 7, 2009, 11:12 PM

I don't know about you guys, but the whole iPod refresh has gotten kind of boring. More space, some feature that I may not need anyway. The iPod touch was the last real release that made leaps in the iPod world, but these days, all the touch does is mimick the phone. The other iPods are mainly getting more capacity.

All tech products work with that kind of cycle. Big leaps forward every couple years followed by lots of incremental improvements. The iPod's entire history is exactly that so why is it now a problem for you? Besides, no company can reinvent their products every few months to keep the short-attention span consumer segment engaged. :rolleyes:

ruffnruggd

Sep 7, 2009, 11:12 PM

Apple is going to go thru and introduce a few new items at the start of "It's Only Rock and Roll" and then it is going to turn into a HUGE Beatles love-in. There is no way that the Beattles are going to pass up the opportunity to have their music become available to the ipod generation. And Apple is going to make the party all about the Beatles for agreeing to it. I mean come on, do you honestly think the Beatles announcing their music being available starting the 9th and Apple's "It's Only Rock and Roll" event being on the 9th were just random coincidences?:D

Sambo110

Sep 7, 2009, 11:23 PM

wackymacky

Sep 7, 2009, 11:24 PM

How do you know she's white ?

Becasue of the way she is dancing.

bennetsaysargh

Sep 7, 2009, 11:25 PM

If The Beatles were to be the focus, then why not put a Beatles lyric as the title? The song "It's Only Rock and Roll" is the Rolling Stones. Perhaps they wanted to not be blatant with it, but you can't be sure. I wouldn't be surprised either way.

As for the image on the building having the headphones on the bottom, perhaps they moved the headphone jack of the classic to the bottom? Have all of the IO on one side maybe cut down on costs? Maybe they were able to make it that much thinner?

Cameras on the nano doesn't make sense to me, but at this point, it'll be something extra that will get attention for this generation of nanos perhaps.

As for the iPod Touch updates, storage yes, of course. I think that the incremental updates work because I currently have a 1G Touch, and if it has a camera, microphone, and GPS/Compass then I will definitely upgrade. I feel that the same thing happened with the iPhone. Many 3G users didn't upgrade to the 3GS, but a lot of original iPhone users did.

gugy

Sep 7, 2009, 11:26 PM

I guess you mean hardware update

Yes, hardware. The current one is just outdate. Speed bumps of the processor, better GPU, 1080p support and external drive support (or integration with AEBS/Time capsule).
They really need to get the ball rolling on this. I think they will update due the fact iTunes 9, SL and Quicktime X are out maybe paving the way for hardware and software. I am just not sure if will happen this week, but I would think soon they will take care of some of the issues above if not all.

If they indeed ignore it completely, they might as well kill the product for good. What keeps me optimistic is the iTunes store selling movies and the necessity to connect this to the HDTV, We'll see.

puckhead193

Sep 7, 2009, 11:33 PM

If they're a bit late that's no prob. Being late hasn't stopped Apple before.

being late could cause huge problems.. especially in 9 months :p

redfirebird08

Sep 7, 2009, 11:40 PM

applealex

Sep 7, 2009, 11:44 PM

I really don't care about cameras. At this point, all I would like to see with the Touch is improvement each year in the following areas:

1. Storage capacity.

2. Battery life.

3. Screen quality.

I am patiently waiting until a 100+ gig Touch comes out. Until then I will stick with my 80 gig Classic.

1. Storage capacity. Will be 64GB

2. Battery life. it happened to the iPhone and there was no case difference so likely to happen to the touch

3. Screen quality. no OLED but we'll get that oleophobic coating

roski11

Sep 7, 2009, 11:44 PM

Becasue of the way she is dancing.

lol good one

MacPhilosopher

Sep 7, 2009, 11:53 PM

I'm guessing no big surprises. iPod updates and/or addition of Beatles to iTunes Library. I believe there is a Beatles remastered CD catalogue and the Rock Star Game rollout happening the same day. To big of a coincidence that Apple would choose a non-Tuesday event if it weren't meant to coincide with this Beatles rollout.

JGowan

Sep 7, 2009, 11:54 PM

There are some songs missing since I only bought the original CD's, no compilations. I would like to complete my collection with a few songs that were only released as a single.More than a few... the PAST MASTERS I and II have a total of 33 singles, I believe, with the vast majority not appearing on studio albums. Some did, but songs like HEY JUDE, LADY MADONNA and many other big songs didn't. But they've been available for about 20 years or more. Sad you've been missing them for so long.

CANOLArabbit

Sep 7, 2009, 11:55 PM

how about an ipod with bulletproof glass. or one that isn't so easy to break... like an ipod rugged. that would sell to people like me....

....i drop things a lot.

Thex1138

Sep 8, 2009, 12:05 AM

3. Screen quality. no OLED but we'll get that oleophobic coating
The coating is turning out to be quite resilient in keeping the greasy chip fingers at bay... the greasy smudge literally evaporates off! :D

OLED will be next year.

MattInOz

Sep 8, 2009, 12:05 AM

Ivan P

Sep 8, 2009, 12:12 AM

"...,but we like it" is from a Beatles interview

I think that's a bit farfetched, Apple wouldn't use some abstract quote that next to no one's heard of - they'd use an actual Beatles song title or well-known Beatles lyrics. And as other posters have said, the entire line, even the "we like it" part, is from the Rolling Stones song.

fpnc

Sep 8, 2009, 12:16 AM

Here are my guesses for Wednesday's event:

1.) No Beatles on iTunes. Unfortunately, the "It's Only Rock And Roll" tagline pretty much excludes any kind of Beatles deal for iTunes. Using a Rolling Stones lyric over a Beatles event would be a complete slap in the face to the Beatles and I don't think anyone at Apple could be that stupid.

2.) The 40GB Apple TV is discontinued and replaced by the 160GB model. The Apple TV's USB port is enabled for use with externally connected storage (okay, the latter may not happen, but I'm still hoping and hoping).

3.) The new iPod Touch and the iPhone 3GS get HD video playback and output support via a firmware update (v3.1). Both units thus become capable of substituting for the discontinued 40GB Apple TV (although with limited storage capacities and with a somewhat restricted onscreen GUI).

4.) Apple introduces a new and richer iTunes-based format for albums (no surprise here).

5.) New iPod Touch and nano with cameras (no surprise here).

6.) No appearance by Steve Jobs. Sadly, I think the stories about his preoccupation with the rumored tablet product are just a cover story for his continued health problems. However, if he does appear and if he looks health and delivers most of the presentation then you can expect Apple's stock to reach $200 before the end of the year.

cutcopypaste

Sep 8, 2009, 12:22 AM

240 or 320 Classic please.

that would totally make my day!.. but I think we may be in the minority here...

donlphi

Sep 8, 2009, 12:25 AM

I posted this earlier (somewhere else), but I could see Rock Band Beatles being released for Mac OS X in addition to a bunch of other stuff. It would line up with the release for PS3, Wii, and XBox 360. However, it doesn't change the fact that they used a slightly altered Rolling Stones song title to advertise this event.

I just hope it is more than a few iPods.

CharBroiled20s

Sep 8, 2009, 12:33 AM

Well, I'll be waiting for a place to sell it out of state (CA sales tax is painful) and preferably with some amenity, like a rock bottom price, or a free case like MacMall does (which is unfortunately in CA).

Come on over to Chicago.... I feel your pain! we're at 10.25% Highest in the country..... For no good reason either....

Thanks Mayor Daley.... Fat son of a... mother f..... ahem ahem... I digress.

Pukey

Sep 8, 2009, 12:34 AM

PowerBook G5 this Wednesday!

sushi

Sep 8, 2009, 12:34 AM

slapppy

Sep 8, 2009, 12:51 AM

From what I've read, OLED isn't so great outside for use. Washes out and difficult to see the display. Unless that problem has been solved??

b1wils1

Sep 8, 2009, 01:02 AM

pika2000

Sep 8, 2009, 01:04 AM

240 or 320 Classic please.
You know, that 120GB drive in the current iPod Classic? That's the current max size for its physical size. I don't think Apple will bring back the thicker Classic just to put in a higher capacity drive.

JGowan

Sep 8, 2009, 01:09 AM

I'm speaking of the people I know personally who are huge Beatles fans. They laugh at the thought of people going to iTunes to buy Beatles records.Then they are only getting half the picture. Sure, THEY wouldn't buy from there as they are already huge fans and own all the albums, both from the UK and the Album versions from the US, including Yesterday & Today (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/The_Beatles_-_Butcher_Cover.jpg) with the infamous Butcher Cover photo art!

They're forgetting the second half of the equation,... creating real fans of the fab four that's not just people who like their #1s. So many people bought "#1" and think they know all of the Beatles really good songs. I want the music to come to iTunes just so people have instant access to 30-second previews of all their music and decide to download the albums because of the awesome, lesser-known tracks.

The Beatles music is so good, you want everyone to experience all of it, not just a relative few songs.

thejakill

Sep 8, 2009, 01:19 AM

Last night I was riding the train back from Tokyo and saw a person with an original iPod in a nice leather case. Looked cool. :)

Curious to see how the line up will change -- especially the Shuffle and Classic models.

iPod Retro.

It would be great if they went back to the original wheel that actually spun around.

JamSandwich

Sep 8, 2009, 01:27 AM

Having never lived in a city with an Apple store before, is it standard practice for new iPods to be available the day of an event? (And if so, how does that work with regards to timing? Do they hold stock until the big announcements are made, or what? And are they in stock at all their stores, or just U.S. locations... in Canada here.)

I've been holding out despite the fact that my well-loved second-gen Nano is on its last legs, knowing that the Touch is due for what should be a pretty nice upgrade.

mac jones

Sep 8, 2009, 01:40 AM

Come on over to Chicago.... I feel your pain! we're at 10.25% Highest in the country..... For no good reason either....

Thanks Mayor Daley.... Fat son of a... mother f..... ahem ahem... I digress.

No good reason??

The North shore is expensive, what with the nanny's and all. then there's
the broads and the booze, etc, etc.

RareEarthMetal

Sep 8, 2009, 01:40 AM

Im hoping this isn't true!

I've been waiting for this for 6 months, and now i have to wait that much longer! its so hard.

Ivan P

Sep 8, 2009, 01:42 AM

They're forgetting the second half of the equation,... creating real fans of the fab four that's not just people who like their #1s. So many people bought "#1" and think they know all of the Beatles really good songs. I want the music to come to iTunes just so people have instant access to 30-second previews of all their music and decide to download the albums because of the awesome, lesser-known tracks.

Exactly. I personally think stuff like Tomorrow Never Knows, Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds, A Day In The Life, Happiness Is A Warm Gun, Dear Prudence, Here Comes The Sun, I Want You (She's So Heavy), the entire Abbey Road medley, In My Life, I Am The Walrus and Rain blows away most of the stuff on the "#1" compilation - The Beatles were very much an album band, their LPs hold up very, very well and the singles and tracks that most people know are only a tiny sample of their great range of material. Give me Revolver, The White Album or Abbey Road over any of their 'greatest hits' compilations any day.

illitrate23

Sep 8, 2009, 01:46 AM

no way!! the chick on the poster is Faye Valentine, from the dancing in the Cowboy Bebop intro:
http://illitrate.co.uk/gubbins/pictures/faye-dance.gif

does this mean Apple are going to be collaborating with Hajime Yadate to make a new series of the anime, perhaps another movie, and iPhone games? woohoo \o/ !!!!

AAPLaday

Sep 8, 2009, 02:15 AM

I think she looks good in blue. Wouldnt be the first time we saw a foxy looking blue woman, im sure a lot of us here have played Mass Effect lol :eek::D:o:p;)

Bonte

Sep 8, 2009, 02:15 AM

Here are my guesses for Wednesday's event:

3.) The new iPod Touch and the iPhone 3GS get HD video playback and output support via a firmware update (v3.1). Both units thus become capable of substituting for the discontinued 40GB Apple TV (although with limited storage capacities and with a somewhat restricted onscreen GUI).

If a $200 iPod can have the same functionality as an AppleTV it will completely replace it, there isn't room for both products that do the same. The Mac slideshow on the main site also doesn't show the AppleTV, i think its going to be phased out.

Adding some extra functionality like surfing, email and app-store would eat to much into Mac sales. Apple could sell a AppleTV-on-a-chip to cable-box and television manufacturers, that would explain old rumors of Apple entering the TV business.

djchuckc27

Sep 8, 2009, 02:26 AM

i'm even thinking about not following a live feed during it.

Where can you watch the live feed?

PBF

Sep 8, 2009, 02:32 AM

What's wrong with white women?

;)
It's just that they happen to be everywhere. Y'know whata mean? About time for black people to show their talents as well. Gawd, let Steve Jobs nominate a black lady as next CEO. :)

MacRy

Sep 8, 2009, 02:40 AM

PowerBook G5 this Wednesday!

LOL. It's been a while since I've heard that. That's cheered my morning up, thanks :)

MagicBall

Sep 8, 2009, 02:53 AM

What about a silent upgrade of the Mac mini? 120 GB HDD capacity for the entry model seems to be a bit outdated.

fat phil

Sep 8, 2009, 02:56 AM

That Poster is BIG!!!:eek: how many ink cartridges does it take to print that up!!

Or, how many printers did they buy to print it? :)

Does anyone else find it's cheaper to buy a new printer than ink refills these days? (this is always a hot topic in the office :))

Vanilla

Sep 8, 2009, 02:59 AM

For the first time I can remember since I switched to the enlightened side I'm completely unexcited by this event. I hope something truly radical is announced but I can't see it really.

Honestly, talk of tablets etc. are all very interesting but to me what is desperately needed is a proper, built from the ground up in a way only Apple can do Home Media Server, to finally mesh together iLife with real life. It could be a revamped appletv or mac mini or a new product all together but SOMETHING that can occupy the area of sharing content across laptops, computers, iphone, tv in and outside the home in a seamless way with some kind of check-in/check-out shared update feature is incredibly needed.
But... I wont hold my breath....

talkingfuture

Sep 8, 2009, 03:09 AM

I hope there is at least one surprise at the event. There seem to be too many leaks nowadays.

sam10685

Sep 8, 2009, 03:26 AM

clouette

Sep 8, 2009, 03:35 AM

iPod Touch definitely will have the new 3GS CPU and GPU, for openGL ES 2.0 support. I am surprised no one mentioned it.

amammad

Sep 8, 2009, 03:47 AM

Oh, I'm sure, although I could never imagine buying classic music from that era online in anything less than FLAC format. Guess I'm one of the old guard of music buyers. :)

Even though the equipment used to record much of the music of that era was of such a poor quality that a bit of compression would be impossible to detect?

When I see comments like this about music of this quality (recording quality) it makes me smile. :rolleyes:

hexonxonx

Sep 8, 2009, 03:54 AM

Even though the equipment used to record much of the music of that era was of such a poor quality that a bit of compression would be impossible to detect?

When I see comments like this about music of this quality (recording quality) it makes me smile. :rolleyes:

That's for sure. The amount of background hiss alone on some of the old recordings is enough to make me throw away some of my old CDs. Some of them include the Beatles, Led Zeppelin and Iron Butterfly. Remastering them doesn't help. I bought the Complete Led Zeppelin when it was remastered once again two years ago, and the hiss on some of them makes me wish I never bought them, seriously.

Beric

Sep 8, 2009, 04:03 AM

iPod Touch definitely will have the new 3GS CPU and GPU, for openGL ES 2.0 support. I am surprised no one mentioned it.

The question is whether it will have the latest CPU, which is better than the 3GS (could someone link it for me)?

aafuss1

Sep 8, 2009, 04:18 AM

My prediction-oleophobic coating on the 3rd gen touch's screen like 3GS and a faster CPU and graphics chip.

Ivan P

Sep 8, 2009, 04:22 AM

That's for sure. The amount of background hiss alone on some of the old recordings is enough to make me throw away some of my old CDs. Some of them include the Beatles, Led Zeppelin and Iron Butterfly. Remastering them doesn't help.

I just got my stereo set in the mail today (a day early, awesome :D), and I can safely say that the remasters sound ten times better then the old CDs, especially on their first four albums - they sound amazing in stereo as opposed to the old mono versions (especially Beatles For Sale, that was just amazing to listen to). The recordings sound a lot clearer, and even on their earlier albums there's a lot of stuff that I've picked up on that I've never heard before (the bass pedal squeaking in All I've Got To Do has turned from a mere annoyance to downright infuriating, that's how much it's been cleaned up :p). Overall I'm very, very pleased with them, every single album really does sound a lot better then the old CDs.

However, in saying this, bear in mind that the remasters that will be 'commercially' available are all in stereo now (previously the first four albums were only available in mono on CD) - it's possible that the mono box set does have some hiss on these albums even after the remastering, but as that's a limited collector's box 95% of consumers will only ever hear the stereo versions which are definitely a massive improvements over the 1980's discs.

star-fish

Sep 8, 2009, 04:33 AM

am i the only person that is very unexcited for this event? i'm even thinking about not following a live feed during it. i've never uttered those words before, but since about '99, i've always held my breath during them with anticipation. i feel nothing but blah for this one.

'Unexcited' would be not even following up on the news for it several days later. Thinking about not watching the live feed =/= unexcited.

Or, how many printers did they buy to print it? :)

Does anyone else find it's cheaper to buy a new printer than ink refills these days? (this is always a hot topic in the office :))

Yes of course...that's how they make money. A consumer buying a one-off product is nowhere near as good for business as a consumer regularly buying products.

Adamo

Sep 8, 2009, 04:33 AM

Why? They are no different that any of the other bands that people buy music from everyday.
Hardly - those listening to them are from a broader range than, say, the Arctic Monkeys and Lady GaGa, so won't sacrifice quality on such a deserving band.
If Steve shows up on stage and says 'Oh, one more thing... you can buy Beatles tunes at the ITMS now', I'm going to cry/laugh/cry/jump/roll/uh, don't know what else. :D

Not holding breath given Apple Records' history with 'the other Apple', but if that ever happens in my own lifetime, I'll be pretty thrilled. Even more so if it's in two days from now. :)
Why? We've had it all for decades now and in far better quality.
You know, that 120GB drive in the current iPod Classic? That's the current max size for its physical size. I don't think Apple will bring back the thicker Classic just to put in a higher capacity drive.
Correct me if I'm wrong.. but the 160GB proves that wrong, surely?

fpnc

Sep 8, 2009, 04:34 AM

If a $200 iPod can have the same functionality as an AppleTV it will completely replace it, there isn't room for both products that do the same. The Mac slideshow on the main site also doesn't show the AppleTV, i think its going to be phased out...
Not really since the iPod Touch/iPhone 3GS would have limited storage and probably won't offer output over HDMI (via a new dock). However, there is no reason why Apple couldn't use the existing universal dock with component video output to support HD playback from a new iPod Touch and the existing iPhone 3GS since it has been shown that the 3GS can play 720p HD content just fine (and such a capability would be a nice upstaging of the Zune HD). Also, I'd expect the Apple TV interface to be a little easier to use since it is designed exclusively for use on wide-screen TVs. Apple could create a new app for the iPod/iPhone to better support playback via the TV but the Apple TV's larger storage capacity and 802.11n wireless support just makes for a better overall solution. Also, the Apple TV has multi-channel, optical audio output so even if the iPod Touch and iPhone 3GS were upgraded to support 720p video you'd still get a better theater experience with the Apple TV (HDMI and multi-channel output).

Ivan P

Sep 8, 2009, 04:39 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong.. but the 160GB proves that wrong, surely?

Pretty sure the 160GB's HDD had an extra platter, so it was a different size physically.

chickyd

Sep 8, 2009, 04:41 AM

has no one mentioned itunes subscriptions??

I'm just thinking apple may have confidently released the spotify app while they know in the background they're going to hit with their own take on it.. and blow spotify out the water.

that's what i'm hoping for!

nomad01

Sep 8, 2009, 04:43 AM

Pretty sure the 160GB's HDD had an extra platter, so it was a different size physically.

Hoping for some update to the classic here. Even if it's just cosmetic.

I need to buy a replacement and the Touch doesn't cut it for me.

Gatesbasher

Sep 8, 2009, 04:57 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong.. but the 160GB proves that wrong, surely?

The 160 GB was using both sides of the same disk as the 80. Since it had a pickup arm on both sides, the package was thicker. The case of the old Classic was thick enough to accomodate both.

The disk in the current Classic is a little denser—120 GB/side. If you used both sides, it would be 240, but unfortunately they've made the case of the unit thinner, precluding that possibility.

NetScheduler

Sep 8, 2009, 05:03 AM

Even though the equipment used to record much of the music of that era was of such a poor quality that a bit of compression would be impossible to detect?
:

A few years ago, there were a few "unofficial" Beatles remasters (one called "Dr. Ebbetts" remasters) and they were beyond stunning. The difference between these remasters and the regular Beatles CD's was immediately detectable.

If the official remasters sound half as good, they'll be worth every cent.

newkeyboard

Sep 8, 2009, 05:18 AM

Would they really have a huge show just for a 3mp camera and a capacity bump? Surely we will see something awesome tomorrow?

Bonte

Sep 8, 2009, 05:19 AM

Not really since the iPod Touch/iPhone 3GS would have limited storage and probably won't offer output over HDMI (via a new dock). However, there is no reason why Apple couldn't use the existing universal dock with component video output to support HD playback from a new iPod Touch and the existing iPhone 3GS since it has been shown that the 3GS can play 720p HD content just fine (and such a capability would be a nice upstaging of the Zune HD). Also, I'd expect the Apple TV interface to be a little easier to use since it is designed exclusively for use on wide-screen TVs. Apple could create a new app for the iPod/iPhone to better support playback via the TV but the Apple TV's larger storage capacity and 802.11n wireless support just makes for a better overall solution.

There is no reason the universal dock for the Touch could not have HD video output and support the standard remote control, The only difference would then be the smaller hard drive and slower network speeds.

If Apple wants to hold on to the aTV we can safely assume that they won't ad these features to the dock, the Touch and aTV can't be competing products.

hexonxonx

Sep 8, 2009, 05:20 AM

Would they really have a huge show just for a 3mp camera and a capacity bump? Surely we will see something awesome tomorrow?

Yes it is an iPod event. Have you seen the first post with the iPod banner? This is what they mean by a music event.

A Macbook Pro

Sep 8, 2009, 05:22 AM

Well that screws up my plan to go to the Apple store day of release. Hopefully they'll fix things up in time though!

Chundles

Sep 8, 2009, 05:46 AM

The 160 GB was using both sides of the same disk as the 80. Since it had a pickup arm on both sides, the package was thicker. The case of the old Classic was thick enough to accomodate both.

The disk in the current Classic is a little denser—120 GB/side. If you used both sides, it would be 240, but unfortunately they've made the case of the unit thinner, precluding that possibility.

Wrong wrong wrong.

The 80GB and 120GB classics used 5mm single platter drives. The 160GB used an 8mm double-platter drive. It used two of the 80GB platters. There is a 240GB 8mm drive they could've used in the thicker platter but the 160GB sold so poorly there was no need.

garethjs

Sep 8, 2009, 06:04 AM

3 things I'm staying awake for

1. Steve Jobs
2. 3.1
3. iTunes 9.0 64bit

richkent72

Sep 8, 2009, 06:20 AM

I think that there are plenty of people who would download Beatles tracks/albums if available. Yes, the existing fans (me included) will get the CDs. But there is a new generation of music buyers who only download and don't own any CDs. There's also those who are not big fans who might want the odd track that they do like and would rather download that than buy a whole album.

Oh, and the blue lady is holding a classic upside-down. :p

Sambo110

Sep 8, 2009, 06:40 AM

Thought this was on tonight for some reason, Probably because it's the 9th in 3 and a half hours. Oh well, tomorrow night isn't too far away.

ascender

Sep 8, 2009, 07:11 AM

I'm sure its been mentioned, but I'd have thought if Apple did have the Beatles catalogue coming, its something they'd be shouting from the roof, so we'd be seeing Beatles-themed posters everywhere, even if it was just a subtle hint (in the colour or design of the posters) rather than an absolute give away. They'd get much more interest and media coverage and excitement rather than just springing it on the attendees.

Thex1138

Sep 8, 2009, 07:20 AM

I think you mean Rock Band.
Yes! that's the one! :)

bergmef

Sep 8, 2009, 08:02 AM

I'm hoping for itunes 9 to include a way to sync itunes libraries. I currently use super sync. I have 2 Macs that I want all music to stay synced, audiobooks to remain on the laptop (for ipod syncing), movies and tv shows to stay on the mini (which feeds the apple tv). I'd rather not have to open an application on both and do everything manually.

While they are at it, how about a good way to sync iphoto too? I want the same library on both.

Am I the only one interested in this?

dalvin200

Sep 8, 2009, 08:35 AM

3 things I'm staying awake for

1. Steve Jobs
2. 3.1
3. iTunes 9.0 64bit

like frosty would say... grrreeeaaaat :D

Ironduke

Sep 8, 2009, 08:43 AM

Well If a Camera in The Touch And Nano is the Main Feature This show is gonna be a bit Chit.

So were looking at :

iTunes9
Camera's + More Memory in iPod Nano & Touch + Faster CPU in Touch
8GB 3GS

and Seeya Again Soon Froots

maini

Sep 8, 2009, 08:54 AM

Hi,

Assuming that Apple will announce a new iPod Touch on wednesday, and there are no production delays. When will it be available on the Apple Store (worldwide)? Immediately?

alexknibb

Sep 8, 2009, 09:01 AM

I think it's about time that the iPod caught up with some technology that music players had years ago. Features that the iPod, for all its plaudits, has NEVER had...

Seriously, my old Sony media player which I bought in the EIGHTIES had the following features:

1. Auto Reverse
2. Dolby B
3. Chrome and Metal settings
4. Unlimited storage (replaceable music 'cassettes')
5. MegaBass(TM)

Frankly, until Apple pull their fingers out and put these features on one of their media players, I'm not interested.

newkeyboard

Sep 8, 2009, 09:02 AM

Yes it is an iPod event. Have you seen the first post with the iPod banner? This is what they mean by a music event.

I understand it's an ipod event. I just mean will we get something amazing if they are dedicating a whole show to it rather that "here it is it has a camera. You can go now". Would love to see a redesign as well as some other stuff we're not expecting!

richkent72

Sep 8, 2009, 09:16 AM

I think it's about time that the iPod caught up with some technology that music players had years ago. Features that the iPod, for all its plaudits, has NEVER had...

Don't forget the user replaceable batteries and lack of DRM :)

ltcol266845

Sep 8, 2009, 09:24 AM

Woah, I just came to the realization that this event is on a Wednesday. My world might just have imploded.

Not that I really follow the iPod line anymore with the iPhone taking on the role.

Wotan31

Sep 8, 2009, 09:25 AM

BeyondtheTech

Sep 8, 2009, 09:27 AM

Ah, there's nothing like analysts spreading a little extra BS before the keynote to lower the stock price of Apple for a better buy when the keynote finally does come out.

http://www.thestandard.com/news/2009/03/13/jim-cramer-reveals-fomenting-regarding-apple-stock-daily-show

http://www.macworld.com/article/139384/2009/03/dailyshow_cramer.html

http://www.tuaw.com/2009/03/13/jim-cramer-smackdown-includes-talk-of-apple/

sishaw

Sep 8, 2009, 09:27 AM

You obviously only see what you want to see.

Speaking for myself, I see a hot Japanese cyberpunk chick well versed in the traditional Geisha arts. But that's just me.

x-machine

Sep 8, 2009, 09:29 AM

The event theme CUH-LEARLY means they're going to announce availability of the Beatles on iTunes...probably the recently digitally remastered ones too.

Just watch. :D

boxandrew

Sep 8, 2009, 09:30 AM

If a $200 iPod can have the same functionality as an AppleTV it will completely replace it, there isn't room for both products that do the same. The Mac slideshow on the main site also doesn't show the AppleTV, i think its going to be phased out.

It's not on the Mac slideshow, it's on the iPod+iTunes slideshow.

http://www.apple.com/itunes/

Which just goes to show that an AppleTV update is fair game for this iPod+iTunes event.

alexknibb

Sep 8, 2009, 09:31 AM

Don't forget the user replaceable batteries and lack of DRM :)

Wow, yeah. I forgot those. And I'm pretty sure they were usually lossless too. In fact rather than losing sound, you even gained quite a lot of treble! Brilliant.

And you got much better value for money on the bundled personal speakers in those days too. Instead of these tiny little 'ear-buds' you get these days, my Sony player came with something called 'head-phones' which were much bigger and covered in a lovely fetching orange foam, with a handy little band which went over your hair and ensured they never fell off. The more I think about it, the more I believe we're going backwards with technology... :(

Wotan31

Sep 8, 2009, 09:35 AM

Wow, yeah. I forgot those. And I'm pretty sure they were usually lossless too. In fact rather than losing sound, you even gained quite a lot of treble! Brilliant.

And you got much better value for money on the bundled personal speakers in those days too. Instead of these tiny little 'ear-buds' you get these days, my Sony player came with something called 'head-phones' which were much bigger and covered in a lovely fetching orange foam, with a handy little band which went over your hair and ensured they never fell off. The more I think about it, the more I believe we're going backwards with technology... :(
Plenty of nice headphones out there these days. Look up Grado, for example. But you won't get them bundled with your ipod (or any other gadget). The crappy "ear buds" that get bundled with ipod these days go straight into the trash.

BoyBach

Sep 8, 2009, 09:38 AM

Wow, yeah. I forgot those. And I'm pretty sure they were usually lossless too. In fact rather than losing sound, you even gained quite a lot of treble! Brilliant.

And you got much better value for money on the bundled personal speakers in those days too. Instead of these tiny little 'ear-buds' you get these days, my Sony player came with something called 'head-phones' which were much bigger and covered in a lovely fetching orange foam, with a handy little band which went over your hair and ensured they never fell off. The more I think about it, the more I believe we're going backwards with technology... :(

Walkman? Pfffft! Ghetto Blasters were the ultimate in portable music players. :cool:

193076

cxny

Sep 8, 2009, 09:45 AM

My son got a free iPod with his laptop; it went straight on eBay and sold for $189.50 they won't be fetching $150.00 after the camera version is announced.

alexknibb

Sep 8, 2009, 09:46 AM

Walkman? Pfffft! Ghetto Blasters were the ultimate in portable music players. :cool:

193076

That is mad cool! :D

Yeah, the next iPod should have speakers like that built in! That'd be rad!

Anaemik

Sep 8, 2009, 09:55 AM

Plenty of nice headphones out there these days. Look up Grado, for example. But you won't get them bundled with your ipod (or any other gadget). The crappy "ear buds" that get bundled with ipod these days go straight into the trash.

Which makes it even more of a shame that Apple have been incrementally reducing the quality of the output stage on their iPods over the past few iterations. I still haven't heard an iPod that beats my iPod 5g which is coming up to 4 years old now.

The one thing I'm really hoping for in the new iPod lineup is a return to the inclusion of a respectable analogue stage.

As for the comments about "true" Beatles fans snubbing the downloaded versions of the songs based on sound quality - if you can reliably spot the difference between a 16/44.1 CDDA rip vs a 256kbps AAC in a double blind test on a non-critical listening system then I'd be absolutely amazed. If you DO have a critical listening system then what are you doing playing compressed music formats on it from ANY artist?

peletrane

Sep 8, 2009, 09:55 AM

Ever since Snow Leopard, I've been getting the beachball of death much more often. I hope they fix it.

goinskiing

Sep 8, 2009, 09:59 AM

I doubt the first 12,000 would slow production too much to delay day-of-keynote release, at least that is what I'm hoping as I have been another one of those that has been holding out ready to buy it the day it comes out. I just hope that if there is a delay it's more like this weekend than 2 weeks, waiting anymore would not be much fun. Definitely looking forward to the event. The 32GB will be hot in my hands the day I can get it.

3.1 should be released.

iTunes 9 with some added features and functionality.

8GB 3GS

NT1440

Sep 8, 2009, 10:03 AM

Jelite

Sep 8, 2009, 10:16 AM

You can guarantee Paul McCartney will be there acting like he's still cool and then he'll call it "eTunes" or "M3p Player" or something.

Cool man, PEACE. :(

MACWhite

Sep 8, 2009, 10:20 AM

like frosty would say... grrreeeaaaat :D

I think you mean Tony.

Bonte

Sep 8, 2009, 10:27 AM

It's not on the Mac slideshow, it's on the iPod+iTunes slideshow.

http://www.apple.com/itunes/

Which just goes to show that an AppleTV update is fair game for this iPod+iTunes event.

I really didn't expect the aTV to be categorized as an iPod, guess it can go both way's now. An updated aTV or the ipod updated with aTV functionality.

sishaw

Sep 8, 2009, 10:27 AM

What's with all these lame "media events"? Why can't they just release new products like everyone else. Why do they need a "media event" just to announce a bigger ipod or a new iTunes? :confused: So what? Seems kind of overblown to me.

Because the press attends and generates a great deal of publicity, which helps Apple sell its products.

griz

Sep 8, 2009, 10:36 AM

Ah, there's nothing like analysts spreading a little extra BS before the keynote to lower the stock price of Apple for a better buy when the keynote finally does come out.

Was my first thought. You know how they say "Buy on rumor, sell on news". Well, what's better than a bad rumor followed by good news. And if Apple comes out with a surprise for the One More Thing, then even better news.
By the way, I'm betting that the one more thing this time will not only be a product announcement, but Steve Jobs coming out on stage to close the show himself. You know how he is the master of the reveal, what better thing to reveal than his return to Apple.
He can't leave the media and shareholders to stew for another 4 months with speculations of his health. Either he makes an appearance or people will start to get worried more and more about his health.

GodWhomIsMike

Sep 8, 2009, 10:52 AM

32GB iPod Nano. :D

dairi

Sep 8, 2009, 10:55 AM

heisetax

Sep 8, 2009, 10:56 AM

1. Purchase The Beatles Remastered Box Set

2. Rip it all

3. Why so much excitement for it to be on the iTunes Store?

They enjoy paying more for less quality. Or maybe the Beatles sound better with a lower quality recording. I only thought that one of their songs sounded good enough to listen to. That was my opinion when I was in high school when their shouting, (singing) was first made. My opinion has not changed since then. So in my opion, Who Cares.

roocka

Sep 8, 2009, 10:59 AM

Paul McCartney wouldn't authorize it until after Michael Jackson died in order to amass a greater revenue for himself from royalties.. He is still pissed at MJ for stealing the catalog from him.. LOL

EagerDragon

Sep 8, 2009, 11:01 AM

Bubba Satori

Sep 8, 2009, 11:12 AM

xhambonex

Sep 8, 2009, 11:26 AM

Hopefully there is something exciting that I haven't heard about, but since its an Apple event I am doubtful.

Is this tablet thing still happening?

jaw04005

Sep 8, 2009, 11:28 AM

What's with all these lame "media events"? Why can't they just release new products like everyone else. Why do they need a "media event" just to announce a bigger ipod or a new iTunes? :confused: So what? Seems kind of overblown to me.

Are you new to the Apple world? It's called marketing and it's been like this since even before the return of Steve Jobs.

Apple is only company that can command the attention the worldwide tech media at each and every event.

PeterQVenkman

Sep 8, 2009, 11:36 AM

You can guarantee Paul McCartney will be there acting like he's still cool and then he'll call it "eTunes" or "M3p Player" or something.
(

When you're that rich, you can call iTunes and iPod whatever you want. At the end of the day, he's still rich and successful. ;)

cmfilms

Sep 8, 2009, 11:42 AM

This is weird. 24 hours before a Mac event and we haven't heard any rumors since late yesterday afternoon. I'm used to getting a rumor once an hour at this point. Strange. :confused:

archurban

Sep 8, 2009, 11:44 AM

I finally finished my business in Vegas, and got back to San Francisco. so it's time to rock & roll tomorrow? that always makes me excited. I guess that's why iTunes store didn't update for new free songs, music video, TV shows last night. so it's definitely right that Apple will announce iTunes 9.0. by the way, the title "it's only rock & roll' means really only rock & roll tomorrow? no more new product? (ha ha ha I'm just kidding).:D

archurban

Sep 8, 2009, 11:48 AM

I grew up with the Beatles and there is plenty of CD's out there to buy and rip into the iPhone.

The new remastered material and videos can be obtained here: http://www.thebeatles.com/

I am sure you can move them to iTunes, and get all the content that is ussualy missing from downloaded songs. Not only that, but if you need to, you can always re-import the songs into iTunes anytime you want, even years later.

I still like to have physical media.

Why is it so important that iTunes sell their songs?
I do not get it.

well, we all know that we can buy CD and rip to itunes whayever you want. but that's not the point. the point is that long battle between Apple and Beattles could be ended beautifully under every agreement? because they use the same name 'apple' as record company. that's why it has significant when their entire albums will be available from iTunes.

M87

Sep 8, 2009, 11:52 AM

Is this tablet thing still happening?

Despite all the naysayers, my hunch is yes. The device would after all be a close relative of the iPod Touch. Maybe they will consider the tablet part of the iPod line?

ericinboston

Sep 8, 2009, 11:56 AM

What's with all these lame "media events"? Why can't they just release new products like everyone else. Why do they need a "media event" just to announce a bigger ipod or a new iTunes? :confused: So what? Seems kind of overblown to me.

I basically agree for this event. If this event is just to announce newer iPods, it seems like a big waste of money. But hey, Apple can spend their money however they want.

Me? I wouldn't wait in line or go to a "show" that is simply going to state "the new ipods have X Y and Z and they will be available in 2 weeks...have a nice day". Not to mention the iPod is on it's 6th generation...it's not a new product line or next killer toy.

I'll follow the show live on the web...or at worst I will go the Apple website later this week and see what changes have been announced.

Bubba Satori

Sep 8, 2009, 11:57 AM

Despite all the naysayers, my hunch is yes. The device would after all be a close relative of the iPod Touch. Maybe they will consider the tablet part of the iPod line?

iMegatouch.

Andy-V

Sep 8, 2009, 11:59 AM

This is weird. 24 hours before a Mac event and we haven't heard any rumors since late yesterday afternoon. I'm used to getting a rumor once an hour at this point. Strange. :confused:

Exactly. This time last year they had nothing to announce because everything leaked. This year the lid has been kept on the rumors apart from "They are adding cameras".

No spy shots or anything of that type.

jaw04005

Sep 8, 2009, 12:00 PM

I wouldn't wait in line or go to a "show" that is simply going to state "the new ipods have X Y and Z and they will be available in 2 weeks...have a nice day".

The media events are for the press only. It's not Macworld. Unless you're a select member of the press or an Apple employee, you're not going to have to worry about going to an Apple media event. Heh.

GQB

Sep 8, 2009, 12:00 PM

am PST ;)

Actually, we're on PDT

Foxer

Sep 8, 2009, 12:03 PM

Would they really have a huge show just for a 3mp camera and a capacity bump? Surely we will see something awesome tomorrow?

I remind you they once held an event simply to announce the iPod hifi...

That said, I only hope for larger iPod classics and a new and improved iTunes.

I also suspect that there will be some Beatles connection, given the 9-9-09 Beatles blitz, but I've been wrong about that before - either way I'm buying the physical box sets, so I've got no dog in the fight.