Apple Releases iPhone OS 3.1 for iPhone and iPod Touch [Archive] - Page 2

peterdevries

Sep 10, 2009, 12:54 AM

so your screwed if you don't have mobile me or if the person already was able to get into your device. not exactly bulletproof

So that's a reason not to implement it? :rolleyes:

There is not one manufacturer for mobile phones that offers the same number of features surrounding remote security for a phone. What are you complaining about?

triplerocks

Sep 10, 2009, 02:54 AM

one of the most thrilling things happened today is Steve Jobs's coming back from his absense of leave!

all mac geeks are beneficiaries for this big "event", we are expecting Jobs and his team would make extensive spotlights in its brand new gear forthcoming

ATMB

Sep 10, 2009, 04:08 AM

Is Safari snappier™? :)

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=145171&d=1227254553

farleysmaster

Sep 10, 2009, 04:33 AM

Someone else, please comment on the fact that you can't put podcasts into playlists, and that that the podcasts screen is very jerky... Please!?

bobnugget

Sep 10, 2009, 05:01 AM

Downloaded iTunes 9 and installing 3.1 on my 3G iPhone.

iTunes 9 looks nice! Haven't had a chance to try any "new" features yet.

I am noticing quite a lot of spinning beach balling... * scratches head **

I noticed this too - it updated the gapless playback information and was very slow & constantly beachballing whilst doing this. Once it finished, it stopped beachballing though.

Other apps were unaffected, and it was only using 10% CPU

farleysmaster

Sep 10, 2009, 05:40 AM

Someone else, please comment on the fact that you can't put podcasts into playlists, and that that the podcasts screen is very jerky... Please!?

The quick (and irritating) fix is to change your podcasts to "music" in their info windows...

mymac69

Sep 10, 2009, 05:40 AM

So iTunes 9 installed with iPhone OS 3.0?

yup, can i keep it like that and still sync with no problems

damager

Sep 10, 2009, 05:58 AM

Well, I've now upgraded two machines to iTunes 9.0 and two iPhones to 3.1. Both times I upgraded iTunes before the iPhone.

The first one, attached to a 17" MacBook Pro running Snow Leopard is an original iPhone (not 3G) which I use as a bedside clock/alarm/streaming radio device using WiFi as it no longer has a SIM card in. This is the first time that the upgrade process has not asked me to put a SIM card in and re-activate it. Looks like they now realise that the units are indeed "the best iPod ever made" rather than a phone with an iPod! The only issue I suffered was that it forgot the name of the iPhone (was called "iPhone Original") and now just calls it "iPhone" - not a big deal.

The second one, a 3G is attached to a Windows XP machine and this one had no issues at all upgrading iTunes and then the iPhone software.

I have over 1500 Apps listed in iTunes and I can tell you that iTunes 9 now starts faster, uses *far* less memory (we're talking about half a gig previously - now under half that) and scrolls through applications *much* faster.

Other than the first backup since the upgrade, every other backup has been back to a fast speed again.

A happy customer. :)

damager

Sep 10, 2009, 06:03 AM

What happened to the 1 hour option in require passcode. After updating, I can only go up to 15 minutes. Anyone else find this to be true?

No, I can still see "After 1 hour" and "After 4 hours" with my iPhones on 3.1.

MorphingDragon

Sep 10, 2009, 06:17 AM

One more update for devs to pull their teeth out with. :rolleyes: I cant even learn OS 3 on this thing.

Bjohnson33

Sep 10, 2009, 06:45 AM

My question is whether I can continue to use iPhone OS 3.0 with iTunes 9?

I can't imagine they would make 3.0 incompatible with the new iTunes. They can't assume everyone that updates their iTunes will immediately have the chance to update their phones as well. It would be a mess to leave a large group of people with useless phones.

Bjohnson33

Sep 10, 2009, 06:49 AM

Lol, no they won't work until you rejailbreak your iPhone and download the hack file thingy in Cydia.

I wonder how hard Apple works at disabling this? Regardless, I'm sure a solution will be forthcoming in the next few days!

Bjohnson33

Sep 10, 2009, 07:00 AM

so your screwed if you don't have mobile me or if the person already was able to get into your device. not exactly bulletproof

I don't think there could ever be a bulletproof solution, or if there was, it would probably be terribly inconvenient.

Bjohnson33

Sep 10, 2009, 07:09 AM

woo hoo, 1 hour backups are now back with 3.1

I miss my speedy 1 minute backups, but since upgrading, it's back to the damn 1 hour backup problem.

Fetch.

I think it's just the first back-up that takes that long - subsequent back-ups are just for changes that have been made, and so should be much faster.

Bjohnson33

Sep 10, 2009, 07:10 AM

Has anyone tested it with tethering on AT&T? Does it break the benm.at profile?:confused:

I think someone mentioned earlier in the thread that this was indeed broken by the update.

Bjohnson33

Sep 10, 2009, 07:17 AM

I'm not sure why people keep missing this.

IT STATES ON THE APPLE SITE:

If you bought OS 3.0 for you touch - then you get 3.1 FOR FREE.

If you're still running 2.x - then it's $5.00 for the 3.1 update; which includes all 3.0 updates.

Reading comprehension, ftw.

But it's more fun to be outraged ;)

electroshock

Sep 10, 2009, 07:45 AM

holy crap!!!!! i did not notice that till now... all this time i ha it on foot. so sorry!!!!

If this had been rush hour LA on the 405, 6h+ might have been rather close to actual time for the by-car option. :D

madman365

Sep 10, 2009, 07:53 AM

Call me an uber geek, but one of my favorite fixes with OS 3.1 is the fact that my subscribed calendars on my iCal are automatically synced over mobilme (although they don't show up ON MobileMe...weird) and keep the same color designation that i gave them on my desktop iCal. Yeah!!!

It's the simple things really.

ZipZap

Sep 10, 2009, 07:56 AM

All this talk about hackz disappearing or phones not upgrading.

The better question to ask is......

What has apple fixed. Where are the release notes?

I dont care about new features when the opsys has so many bugs.

APPLE....TELL ME WHAT YOU FIXED.

BTW...Can anyone confirm if volume for a 3GS was crippled by the update. I love the volume on the 3gs as it finally seems normal (loud)...if they dampened it...I will not upgrade.

gkellogg12

Sep 10, 2009, 08:27 AM

Humm.. update failed, now my iphone is wiped clean. Doing restore but it's stuck on "waiting for iphone" ... dangit.

Same...Lesson learned, no new updates.

Diapason

Sep 10, 2009, 08:32 AM

You spent a half hour of your life moving apps around?

Yes, he spent half hour for that. And I'm not surprised.

If you have more than 100 apps in 10 pages on your iPhone, it is perfectly reasonable that it takes a long time to re-arrange all of them.

Why? Because the app rearrangement directly on the iPhone was very difficult, with many apps distributed on several pages. And so users who wanted to have many applications on the iPhone probably had to keep them on a pile-up basis, in no logical order.

Now, if your next question is "but does a user really NEED all that apps online?", the answer is simple: if the iPhone provides 10 pages for applications, this means that Apple thought about people who would like to have up to 160 applications on the iPhone. It was Apple's choice, and it is fair and reasonable that Apple support those users.

twilson

Sep 10, 2009, 08:56 AM

- YouTube with decent quality on 3G cellular, I have about 2-3 Mbit/s effective download rate both on Wi-Fi and 3G cellular, why do I get lousy quality on 3G when I have the bandwidth?

That's not Apple's call. It's YouTube's.

- Removal of other 3G cellular restrictions to allow Skype calls etc.

Not Apple's call. The carrier's.

- Possibility to run at least music apps like Spotify in the background

Would be nice, if it was only the cached stuff. Streaming would probably hog quite a bit of CPU still.

- Correction of the problem with third-party apps that stops working, solved by new app download

Most likely the third-party app.

- Removal of the bug that stops execution for a second or more (no response) in any app now and then

Almost definitely the third-party app.

- Possiblity to change rotation of the screen when the keyboard is displayed

In what, as all apps I know of it works with keyboard displayed, including my own apps.

- Addition of a "go to end of page" in Safari (had to add a bookmark with javascript to get this)

Each to their own, of such limited appeal not worth wasting screen real estate on.

- More home screens

Just use Spotlight, otherwise you'll get RSI from swiping so many times.

- Naming of home screens

No room for the name, as you need to include the extra height of the "in-call" status bar.

- Removal of 2GB restriction per app, let the user decide this

Not being funny, but an iPhone game over 2GB in size isn't optimised very well. PSP titles occupy less than 2GB (typically around the 600-700MB mark).

John.B

Sep 10, 2009, 09:16 AM

I can't imagine they would make 3.0 incompatible with the new iTunes. They can't assume everyone that updates their iTunes will immediately have the chance to update their phones as well. It would be a mess to leave a large group of people with useless phones.
They certainly could've made 3.1 a prerequisite for iTunes 9. Esp. considering that 3.1 is free to iPhone users. I guess that was my concern.

Oh no- tethering is still available for the LOW price of $29.99/month with 3.1. It is a great day to be an AT&T customer the representative said at the press conference!
Tethering is still not officially available at any price for AT&T's iPhone users. Other smartphone users, yes; iPhone users, no. That's a large part of the problem.

I agree that $30/month is expensive for casual use. They probably need to have two or three tiered plans, but that's not how AT&T normally views their network. Look at the data plan options for iPhone users (i.e. all one of them) for a representative sample. ;)

ob81

Sep 10, 2009, 09:33 AM

Does this fix the wireless and bluetooth issues that were introduced with 3.0? I haven't used wireless on my iPhone in 2 months since I can't get to a store to exchange this thing.

davidbrummy

Sep 10, 2009, 09:39 AM

When someone on Exchange sends a calendar invite via email, it still appears as an attachment that you can't import or open in iPhone 3.1.

So much for being business friendly. :mad:

I had the bonus feature of Outlook Active sync now being broken. Apparently I am not alone.

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2151382&tstart=0

RogueWarrior65

Sep 10, 2009, 09:48 AM

Goddamnit, Apple, all I want is to be able to easily Google an unrecognized phone number. I know the lack of full-blown caller ID is the phone company's fault but you guys can easily add a button to the number list. JEEZZZ!!!!

thogs_cave

Sep 10, 2009, 10:01 AM

The triple-click to turn on accessibility is a very nice addition. Now I can invert the screen quickly, which helps a great deal with my poor vision.

Nice. I don't know if many are realizing it, but the iPhone is becoming a great device for the visually handicapped... (Voiceover rocks!)

iCello

Sep 10, 2009, 11:12 AM

GNice

Sep 10, 2009, 11:31 AM

I had the bonus feature of Outlook Active sync now being broken. Apparently I am not alone.

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2151382&tstart=0

I'm soooo glad I haven't had a chance to upgrade to 3.1. Breaking ActiveSync would really tick me off.

madog

Sep 10, 2009, 11:58 AM

I've noticed an increase in speed as well. Which is to say, 3.0 slowed down the **** out of my iPhone 3G, and 3.1 has brought it back to what it was before. As with every .x iPhone update, I perform a restore and a "set up as new phone" as opposed to restoring from the backup.

Tethering would be nice but I have no need for it atm, I think MMS is for sending garbage 90% of the time though I'm not looking forward to it potentially slowing down the network overall, and I also have no jailbreaks or unlocks (haven't you people learned to NOT update by now?) so this update is a definite positive.

madog

Sep 10, 2009, 12:06 PM

I tried to update my iPhone 3G, but just before it started updating it gave me an error, i believe its 2001. That left it in restore mode, which would be fine except that if I try to do a restore it only gives me an option to restore and update and if I do that it doesnt work. It also gives 16-- error codes sometimes. And the worst thing is, when i started the update process, it put all the previous firmware files in the trash and i very very stupidly emptied it.
So, if no one can think of a solution, then a download link for 3.0 would be helpful.
I have a Macbook Unibody with OS X 10.6 Snow leopard.
Any help, preferably quickly, would be much appreciated.

Finder, select the Go menu, select Go To Folder, and type in the path "~/Library/iTunes/iPhone Software Updates/" (without quotes) and the folder will open with all of the updates you have downloaded. "~" is the Unix term for your home folder, and does not need to be changed. You can then copy and paste an ipsw file to the desktop for easy use with another application. Unless Apple changed something it always kept the firmware file, but did put previous versions of updated Touch/iPhone applications in the trash.

Or http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/

diamond.g

Sep 10, 2009, 12:18 PM

I had the bonus feature of Outlook Active sync now being broken. Apparently I am not alone.

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2151382&tstart=0

It isn't broken now. They have fixed it. Before the phone was just ignoring the encryption requirement. The security flaw has been corrected. You should complain to your Exchange Admins.

jkdsteve

Sep 10, 2009, 12:29 PM

When someone on Exchange sends a calendar invite via email, it still appears as an attachment that you can't import or open in iPhone 3.1.

So much for being business friendly. :mad:

You mean they broke this? they used to come through as clickable .ics attachements....I still usually go into my Calendar app and accept from there though.

EDIT: Just got a meeting notice and it appeared in the Exchnage Calendar on the app and as a regular .ics email attachment in my Exchange Inbox on the phone.

converge

Sep 10, 2009, 12:43 PM

I had the bonus feature of Outlook Active sync now being broken. Apparently I am not alone.

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2151382&tstart=0

It's not broken, just an Exchange setting is now being enforced.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22999133-iPhone-31-breaks-Exchange-Sync-for-pre3GS-phones

crashzero

Sep 10, 2009, 12:44 PM

madog

Sep 10, 2009, 12:46 PM

i didn't read the entire thread so excuse me if this has been covered.

will there be an up date to 3.1 on the 25th for MMS? because right now i see no options for attaching photos or videos to messages.

There will most likely be a minor update to activate the feature that already exists on the phone once MMS officially rolls out.

PabloGS

Sep 10, 2009, 01:02 PM

Heh... That's it! I've had enough!

3.1 broke tethering!

I bought my iPhone without SIM/Netlock in an O2 store!
O2 allows me to tether with my data plan at no extra cost / charge!
It used to work flawlessly! And now Apple decides to lock me out!

Nicely done! :mad:

Keep on castrating the iPhone and it's features and look how to annoy your customers and how to drive them away!

Dokter_Mac

Sep 10, 2009, 02:11 PM

Hi,
today I've updated my iPod Touch and noticed that the update revealed in iTunes 9 (on my Mac) is not 3.1 but 3.1.1?

I haven't read the whole thread about the 3.1 update, so I excuse myself if this is already has been handled...

My question is if anyone else noticed this?

With regards.

Lycanthrope

Sep 10, 2009, 02:51 PM

Not only is Safari snappier, but my oleophobic screen is slippier

I'm still having problems with Exchange though - works fine with the server on the corporate WiFi, but for the mobilsync server it's still not working. Was fine on my 2G, never worked on 3GS :(

Chimpy

Sep 10, 2009, 03:19 PM

HyperZboy

Sep 10, 2009, 03:21 PM

Is it normal to have 10 iPhone updates & restores totaling over 1.5GB in your trash after installing this update?

I don't remember anything like this ever happening before with previous iPhone updates.

I'm worried that the installation might not have gone correctly, although the iPhone seems fine.

I can't decide whether to empty the trash or not. I didn't even know there were that many iPhone install versions saved on my computer. Does this mean Apple wants to make sure no one can go back to an earlier version to regain a function like tethering or some other hack?

Anyone know?

xIGmanIx

Sep 10, 2009, 04:17 PM

So that's a reason not to implement it? :rolleyes:

There is not one manufacturer for mobile phones that offers the same number of features surrounding remote security for a phone. What are you complaining about?

BB and the RIM have a pretty robust security feature set, so i wouldn't just write off apple as the leader in this space. They have had some flaws as all others have them exploited and fixed the holes for now. i just wouldn't tout it as a security feature as it does nothing for some one who doesn't pay an additional $100 a year for Apple's serivce. Why not allow it with other services.....oh wait we do know...:D

davidbrummy

Sep 10, 2009, 04:47 PM

It's not broken, just an Exchange setting is now being enforced.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22999133-iPhone-31-breaks-Exchange-Sync-for-pre3GS-phones

Great news! Hang on I still can not read my email that I used to be able to and I can roll back to 3.0. Some heads up would have been nice.

awest62

Sep 10, 2009, 04:58 PM

I upgraded today and the option to do internet tethering is not in the 3.1 OS under Settings -> General -> Networking... It's gone! I called Apple and they said they were asked to remove it by AT&T and that under the AT&T contract tethering was not allowed.

I asked to go back to 3.0 but Apple Tech Support stated that was IMPOSSIBLE!

suss2it

Sep 10, 2009, 05:24 PM

geminidown

Sep 10, 2009, 06:06 PM

Wait a second, at first I wasn't understanding all the complaints about tethering because I was still able to tether, then I realized it seems to be an American thing.

I'm wondering why America you can't tether or apparently MMS while here in Canada you can?

Also, does anyone know how to use Genius Mix on your iPhone?

Because the official American carrier doesn't support MMS or Tethering yet.

MMS will be available on 9/25 and tethering still has no ETA [which is why everyone is up in arms over loosing their tethering hack here in the US.]

And yeah, could someone enlighten us on the Genius Mix on the device? It works in iTunes 9 awesome for me, but I don't even see it on my iPhone 3G.

stoox

Sep 10, 2009, 06:24 PM

so im guessing 3.1.1 will enable MMS on AT&T.

and im going to guess they will release that on the 25th

martint84

Sep 10, 2009, 06:53 PM

And yeah, could someone enlighten us on the Genius Mix on the device? It works in iTunes 9 awesome for me, but I don't even see it on my iPhone 3G.

To use genius mix on your iphone, you have to sync the genius mix under the music tab for syncing in iTunes on your computer. After you do that, it will show up under the "more" tab on your iphone.

Tollundmanden

Sep 10, 2009, 07:23 PM

After the 3.1 update the new Apple earphones with remote, mic and volume now partially works with older 1g iPhones. The volume buttons still does nothing, but the center play/pause button is now fully functional.

fef714

Sep 10, 2009, 07:42 PM

The volume buttons on the side of the iPod touch 2g are now delayed or something, it's really annoying :mad:

sravana

Sep 10, 2009, 08:38 PM

Updated iTunes - no problem
Downloaded 3.1.1 - no problem
Installed on my Touch 2G - no problem, but slooooow

Downloaded available app updates, synced.

Took over an hour for the Touch to be backed up?
I thought that syncs were too slow on 2.2.1 - but this is about 8x slower! Is the syncing going to remain that slow from now on? It's like I'll need to just sync overnight, for crying out loud!

On another subject - glad I waited to update the OS: $5 vs. $10. neener neener!

shantom

Sep 10, 2009, 10:27 PM

I just replaced my 3g under warranty, so I had the advantage of downloading the new software and then setting up tethering. IT STILL WORKS!!! I followed the exact same format as before with a US based ATT 3G (mind you this is my first time setting up tethering). I updated to the new software yesterday and setup the proper download etc. and it still works perfectly. I have not had any VVM problems as some others have had.

ntrigue

Sep 11, 2009, 12:56 AM

I am unable to capture screenshots using the home + power buttons. Can someone please test this. I did restore as new iPhone.

normwood

Sep 11, 2009, 03:42 AM

I am unable to capture screenshots using the home + power buttons. Can someone please test this. I did restore as new iPhone.

Just tried this. Still works for me.

Steve

jacg

Sep 11, 2009, 10:27 AM

Does this mean older iPhones will never be compatible with secure Exchange servers?

Has anyone worked out a sure fire way to keep tethering alive? The experiences seem fairly random in this thread:

http://forum.theiphoneblog.com/iphone-help/177856-how-keep-tethering-3-1-a-2.html

Does anyone with mobileme and an iPhone tell me if you can send email from a mobileme alias without using one of the flawed workarounds yet?

If anyone can help, thanks!

diamond.g

Sep 11, 2009, 02:24 PM

Did anyone notice that movies taken now sync in the photos.app? I can't seem to find that as a listed feature. The other thing that I have noticed is my podcast are now showing newest to oldest, which is annoying because it took them till 2.2/3.0 to fix that.

KingCoffee

Sep 11, 2009, 02:24 PM

Yes, sadly it does. Reinstalling it did not work for me.

What?

Not only does the BenM not work now, but having the BenM profile still in my settings caused me lack of visual voicemail features.
It took me 2 days to realize that I was not being notified about all the voicemail piling up.
I spent 2 hours on the phone with Apple and AT&T before figuring out what the problem was.
Once I removed the BenM profile, visual voicemail worked like a charm.

Oh well.