Snow Leopard compatible with Adobe CS4??? [Archive]

Joemero

Sep 11, 2009, 12:10 AM

I've read mixed reviews, and I'm about to purchase Adobe CS4 and want to know whether I should install my SL upgrade or not. There was a recent article "No need to wait for speedy Snow Leopard (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hotstories/6607103.html)" where a reader comment says:
Stratman60 wrote: Quite amazed at Dr Bob here...Snow Leopard is not fully compatible (stable) with ANY Adobe CS4 products - I have an email from Adobe stating the fact that they are working with Apple to resolve Unexpected Quits caused by trying to 'Save' files. Pretty fundamental stuff. I also understand Adobe's testing with Flash CS4 was minimal and non existent with CS3. Photoshop will also crash on Save.
So my advice is if you're a design/creative pro then DO NOT upgrade to 10.6 until 10.6.1 which is out with the testers already (its as if they knew this would happen) is released. Neither Adobe or Apple will let on when that is. Hopefully people reading this will not lose the same amount of production time & money as I have because of what amounts to a glossy-on-the-surface upgrade but far from profesionally usable.
One other thing Adobe have posted an apology (of sorts) on their Support page. Makes me feel better. No, really it does!

stratman60

Sep 11, 2009, 06:38 AM

For the record 10.6.1 is no improvement. I suspect Apple will produce a 'security fix' soon and slide it in under the radar. I recall an incident back in 2007 I think when PShop CS3 stopped allowing 'Save As.." - and an applescript app was released that, hey presto, fixed the workings under the hood.

I've tested Flash CS4 today - you can now import to stage/library - but Save As is still very temeramental. Rock solid still however under 10.5.7 on my poor old 'now getting thrashed' MacBook.

I've read mixed reviews, and I'm about to purchase Adobe CS4 and want to know whether I should install my SL upgrade or not. There was a recent article "No need to wait for speedy Snow Leopard (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hotstories/6607103.html)" where a reader comment says:

Joemero

Sep 11, 2009, 09:08 AM

Rock solid still however under 10.5.7 on my poor old 'now getting thrashed' MacBook.

How about under 10.5.8?

stratman60

Sep 11, 2009, 09:28 AM

yes indeed; 10.5.8 is stable for CS4 products. I just rechecked Ai, Ps & Fl.

Hope this helps.

How about under 10.5.8?

spiketrain

Sep 16, 2009, 04:11 AM

Joemero

Sep 16, 2009, 08:56 AM

Not stable -

Wish I'd checked these threads before doing the Snow Leopard install and 10.6.1 update.

Wish I'd made a clone bootable drive copy -

Wish I'd waiting a few more weeks - months perhaps.

Leopard 10.5.8 is rock solid for CS4. Flakey at best on SL.

What a mess.

My life is in tatters.

I'm off to hurt myself.

Misery.

Thanks for coming forward with this info. Now I feel very fortunate to not have been tempted to install SL while I actually had the disc in my hands. I suspected something like this might happen. I bought my MBP last month with the sole intention of becoming a creative pro, primarily with Adobe products, so who cares if my machine's OS is does not have the latest and greatest. I suspect I will stay with 10.5.8 for quite some time, months maybe. I can just imagine, how your life can be in tatters if you are making a living as a creative pro and something like this happens, but...please don't hurt yourself! :)

On another note, I posted this question on Adobe's web design forum and suprisingly after about 22 views I have not received a SINGLE reply...hmmm. I still don't understand how people in other threads claim to be having no problems at all. The only thing I can think of is that they are not heavy users and therefore have not noticed the problems?

definitive

Sep 16, 2009, 10:24 AM

i've had sl for about two weeks now, and have been using it with cs4 pack. so far everything has been working fine....

ProFont

Sep 16, 2009, 12:26 PM

A few links for you. As I read it, the problems are mostly SMB-related (that is, network-related) and not at all a general problem with 10.6.

Photoshop related product known issues with Mac OS X 10.6
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/512/cpsid_51229.html

When opening and saving files, applications, including Adobe applications, may sporadically crash. (Mac OS X 10.6)
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/506/cpsid_50654.html

Keep an eye on John Nack's blog. He's usually pretty good about keeping the community up-to-date about stuff like this.
http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/

detnyre

Sep 16, 2009, 01:58 PM

Hi,

I'm running Snow Leopard and dowloaded the Fireworks CS4 trail this week and it is working fine.....

Used it to create and export some web graphics this week...
Derek

Goombi

Sep 16, 2009, 02:29 PM

I just tried opening all my Adobe CS4 master collection programs and they're all functioning perfectly. Needless to say, I'm running SL as well.

primalman

Sep 16, 2009, 08:23 PM

I just tried opening all my Adobe CS4 master collection programs and they're all functioning perfectly. Needless to say, I'm running SL as well.

ditto here, CS4 and SL getting along well. A couple of issues with PS and Spaces, but no big woop.

spiketrain

Sep 17, 2009, 04:28 AM

I still don't understand how people in other threads claim to be having no problems at all. The only thing I can think of is that they are not heavy users and therefore have not noticed the problems?

Yeah - strange. Horses for courses I guess.

FYI My Fujitsu ScanSnap seems to have recovered under Snow Leopard - but my Canon Scanner 5600F and my Dymo Label Printer are completely bricked.

HPCP1515 laser printer - no probs
Bento (Filemaker) - no probs
iphoto - no probs
bamboo (wacom) tablet looks okay

It'll all come good.... one day.

primalman

Sep 17, 2009, 08:17 AM

I still don't understand how people in other threads claim to be having no problems at all. The only thing I can think of is that they are not heavy users and therefore have not noticed the problems?

Or, we use the suite a lot everyday and have few minor issues [like in my post above about PS and spaces], but things are playing well together. Yeah, that's it, I do use it everyday and have just a few minor quirks.

Ed State

Sep 17, 2009, 09:25 AM

I hate to say this, but so far I'm a-ok w/ SL + CS4.

So weird that it's always like this. Some people have major issues, some have minor issues, and some have no issues.

I'm hoping I'll end up in the camp of the latter two :D

mainomega

Sep 18, 2009, 01:33 AM

Everything was stable and perfect under 10.6 and 10.6.1 until we try to use indesign to print booklet. Because SL removes the Adobe PDF (security they say) it is impossible to send the booklet to pdf. The way they recommend is to save to PF and then convert to PDF...
IT DOESN'T WORK ! the PF is saved incorrectly so nothing can be done. Because of this we are going back to leopard this weekend until they fix it. what a waste of time and money !

GT41

Sep 18, 2009, 01:37 PM

Only problem I've noticed so far is that I can't move files from one folder to another in Bridge. Everytime I try it moves a few files then beach ball of death and then a crash. Otherwise I have not had problems 10.6 or 10.6.1

:)

jonwatt

Sep 18, 2009, 02:33 PM

I have a MacBook 2.4GHz with 4GB of ram and running on Snow Leopard
10.6.1. Since I upgraded to SL, I can not complete any work in Illustrator
CS4, constant quitting in saving as, and saving as pdf's. Same in InDesign,and not so much in Photoshop. Acrobat Pro quits on finishing multi page pdf's! It has taken me a whole day to complete a job that would normally take 4 hours max. I have read so many cases of this happening, it seems that one would expect Adobe, and or Apple to make a statement, but the whistling silence speaks volumes. Take the money and run?

Let's hope that a fix is announced very quickly, or I would expect that
Adobe will feel the backlash from users by not progressing to CS5 when
released...lost trust is not easily regained..and is capitalized on by those
who wait in the wings to steal the crown.

I can not count the hours (and money ) I have lost by trusting these brands.

Prove you can retain respect.Fix it now!

Joemero

Sep 20, 2009, 10:19 PM

Looks like I will be staying with 10.5.8 for a while :rolleyes:. Thanks for all the feedback. I'll receive my CS4 on Tuesday and will gladly install it on Leopard. :D

Chimpy

Sep 20, 2009, 11:42 PM

So far PS and LR are running fine for me under 10.6.1.

sourskittle

Sep 22, 2009, 04:36 AM

but then I found this thread i'm having a problem that my iMac has slowed down and I can't figure out if Adobe cs4 is the culprit:
This is my thread::confused:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=790827

I'll paste here too:
Hello all!
2 weeks ago I bought the new iMac 2.66GHz, 4GB RAM, and am absolutely in love with it!

It came with Leopard (I bought it in Dubai so I have to buy the upgrade separately, don't know how it works elsewhere) so I upgraded to Snow Leopard and it was still working smoothe..

Then a few days later of installing SnowLeopard I installed Adobe CS4, not everything just Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Dreamweaver and Flash.

Now my computers gone down to 50% of how fast applications would load, the display takes a good 3 minutes to wake up (before I would just press a key and it would zip on' and even then takes a minute to function without the colorful spinning wheel to show it's loading, even then loads applications slow, I hover over my dock and the magnification has a delay, little annoying things like that

I tend to have one or 2 adobe apps open at the same time when I'm working

My habits: I dont quit the adobe app, I'll leave it open, and I never let my computer sleep since I am usually downloading or leave my Adium signed in

Are these (I guess bad) habits causing my computer to slow down? I wouldve thought my iMac would be able to handle a few apps open!

Please help, thank you

boomer9000

Sep 22, 2009, 01:12 PM

We had CS3 on out 10.5.x-systems and that didn't work after we updated to 10.6.
We HAD heard about it not launching, but we crossed our fingers and… but no joy…

So, we went out and bought CS4 instead, clean-installed all macs and installed to CS4…

Bridge loads up, but that is also the ONLY CS4-program doing so - everything else tells us that a there is a "Licensing Problem"

spiketrain

Sep 24, 2009, 10:52 AM

Are these (I guess bad) habits causing my computer to slow down? I wouldve thought my iMac would be able to handle a few apps open![/I]

I shouldn't think under normal circumstances your habits are actually that bad. I frequently run a MacBook Pro that is over three years old with Adobe Photoshop, InDesgin, Illustrator all open at once along with Entourage, Firefox, Quicktime, iTunes and others besides. No probs with speed under Leopard.

Provided your RAM is good etc then you should have no issues with your current habits.

Right now, I would blame Snow Leopard. It is horrible with Adobe right now. Have had multiple issues and I now wish I hadn't installed it at all. Who knows when Adobe / Apple are going to fix this. It's ghastly.

It's a bad Final Cut Pro day too.

XjeffX

Sep 24, 2009, 02:31 PM

Photoshop and illustrate cs4 are both running great since updating snow leopard to 10.6.1 on both of my macs.

Prior, they would crash randomly when saving. No more since the latest update.

Sweetfeld28

Sep 28, 2009, 11:23 AM

Has anyone here ran into CS4 not loading any apps, after upgrading to 10.6.1? I have this window that pops up, which gives me a error code, then tells me to restart my computer and try to reload again. But this Does nothing, and i get the same code.

I did read on another website that another user had the same issue, but he couldn't find a fix either. I have now tried to Uninstall, then Re-install multiple times, but run into the same issue.

Any ideas?

nullx86

Sep 28, 2009, 11:31 AM

Im running 10.6.1 and I have CS4 and it works with no problems...

Sweetfeld28

Sep 28, 2009, 11:36 AM

Its the weirdest thing, i can't figure it out.

mixvio

Oct 5, 2009, 05:20 AM

I only use CS4 for three things; Photoshop, Illustrator and Fireworks. Those worked fine for me under Leopard, but since I upgraded to Snow Leopard Fireworks in particular doesn't run any longer at all. When I try to launch it the loading splash screen immediately hangs, then reports "Fireworks can not run. An internal error occurred."

It doesn't seem to be a widespread problem affecting everyone, but a lot of people are having the same issue. I did an upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard (not a fresh install) but it seems to be an issue for people who installed from scratch as well. Fireworks was already at the latest version when I updated and no measure of deleting files from Application Support/Library/Adobe has made a difference. I reported the problem on Sathak's Adobe blog but their response has been a pretty predictable "Are you sure your computer is turned on before you try to launch CS4" level of worthlessness.

http://blogs.adobe.com/sarthak/2009/09/fireworks_and_snow_leopard.html

Given how ridiculously expensive the suite is you would think those of us who pay for it can expect a reasonable level of support.

HerbyGunther

Oct 5, 2009, 11:25 AM

I run 10.6 and use CS4 (Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash) everyday without problems. Photoshop sometimes has problems with Save for web, which takes 1 min before the dialog opens, but only once per session. I'm on a MBP with 4 gb ram.

Flashmanburgess

Oct 12, 2009, 05:38 PM

I am crashing 5-10 times a day (minimum) mostly when building a project. Very rarely on save. This has been going since SL install. Wish Adobe would get their heads out of their asses and fix this crap.

Joemero

Oct 13, 2009, 11:38 PM

All I can say is how happy I am I DIDN'T upgrade to SL since I am a brand new mac user (it would have been extremely disappointing) and my main goal is to become a CS4 expert. I ordered SL upgrade...RESISTED the temptation to install it and am now learning happily on 10.5.8 :)

I really feel bad for those of you who are experiencing these problems with CS4 and SL and I feel dumbfounded that Adobe would not focus more on Apple than PC for compatibility. Even in their in-house videos, most of their own people use Macs! GO FIGURE!!!! You think they UPGRADED??? Or did they get some inside word?

MythicFrost

Oct 14, 2009, 02:26 AM

Everyone should be aware (if they are not), that the majority of the problems with SL come from upgrading, migrating from an existing HD, or installing from Time Machine, both result in an upgrade like installation.
Which unfortunately has glitches, I did an upgrade on my Mac Pro (6-8 months old) running CS4, FCP, and Parallels 4.0 mainly, I haven't used FCP much, but I tested it and it seemed fine.

CS4 crashes when I close it sometimes, that's about as buggy as it gets for me.
I also recently did a clean install on a new SSD, and it's running exactly the same I think. CS4 might not actually crash anymore now that I think of it.

But nothing else really.. Quite enjoyable my SL experience has been, in both cases of installing, also did a clean install on a MBP4,1 (from 08), no problems with it either.

Kind Regards

skottichan

Oct 14, 2009, 03:41 PM

JasonR

Oct 14, 2009, 05:42 PM

Photoshop CS4 is crashing for me all the TIME once when I had several projects open.

Time to reformat and reload Leopard? UGH

Sweetfeld28

Oct 14, 2009, 06:44 PM

go into /Library/Preferences and delete FLEXnet Publisher folder.

Open CS4, should work fine.

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. It worked perfectly. Seriously, thanks a lot.

skottichan

Oct 16, 2009, 08:20 PM

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. It worked perfectly. Seriously, thanks a lot.

My pleasure. I ran into the same problem after restoring from a Time Machine backup after I upgraded my MBP's hard drive.

oh and...

Go Bucks!

SchneiderMan

Oct 17, 2009, 07:26 PM

It works perfectly

Bear Hunter

Oct 17, 2009, 07:29 PM

Photoshop CS4 Extended works fine for me on 10.6.1. Can't comment on the other programs.

chrismacguy

Oct 18, 2009, 06:29 AM

I have Fireworks, Flash Pro and Dreamweaver all running fine under 10.6.1 and a Friend has got Illustrator and Photoshop, both are fine on 10.6.0 - should be fine

Kitelife

Oct 26, 2009, 04:12 PM

go into /Library/Preferences and delete FLEXnet Publisher folder.

Open CS4, should work fine.
I'm having a similar problem after restoring from Time Machine...

Already fixed the license errors, now it's just Fireworks that is giving me issues.

Splash screen comes up, doesn't initialize, then gives me the "Fireworks cannot run." error, then crashes.

Tried the solution above to no avail, even installed the latest update, also no joy.

Any other suggestions out there?

maddagascar

Oct 27, 2009, 11:35 AM

soooo...has there been an update since for cs4?

i'm fairly new to my macbook, sooo..should i just do a clean install and revert back to leopard? does that mean i'd have to my another SL disc if i ever wanted to reinstall it?..lol.

and i does the leopard install disc come in the box?..i know i'm a newb.:o

JosephDuffy

Oct 27, 2009, 05:45 PM

I've had CS4 Masters Collection ( All CS4 Products ) since about a week after release. I upgraded to SL day I heard CS3 was hit and miss, but CS4 seams to be fine!
Hope this helped.
Joseph Duffy

Jason Beck

Oct 27, 2009, 06:51 PM

I think I am going to wait till the next patch to install SL. I just barely got my macbook from my college and have been wanting to install Snow leopard, but havn't had time. Nor the disc. Poor college kid, ya know. As soon as I have the extra money I am going to order the disc, so I will be updating probably in a few weeks/ 3 months. By then there should be a few fixes for it.
Some of you report no problems, some have. All I know is it works fine and is really snappy with 10.5.8. I do have that "upgrade itch" though. I don't like to be behind the times LOL. Who knows.

maddagascar

Oct 27, 2009, 08:56 PM

also, is photoshop 8.0 cs4?..or is that just photoshop itself.

rrijkers

Oct 28, 2009, 09:26 AM

I'm hardly able to work with CS4 atm... Id, Ai, Ps, Dw all crash a LOT. :(

I am not going back to Leo, I am happy with SL and I expect Apple and Adobe to fix this on 10.6.2

samcraig

Oct 28, 2009, 09:36 AM

go into /Library/Preferences and delete FLEXnet Publisher folder.

Open CS4, should work fine.

Odd - I don't even have such a folder? I have the CS4 suite. Every other program works like a charm and no issues. Fireworks will not open up since Snow Leopard upgrade. I'm on an iMac bought earlier this year.

I've tried the various solutions presented online to no avail.

Here's hoping Adobe comes out with some sort of update/patch/whatever...

Jason Beck

Oct 28, 2009, 11:42 AM

I'm hardly able to work with CS4 atm... Id, Ai, Ps, Dw all crash a LOT. :(

I am not going back to Leo, I am happy with SL and I expect Apple and Adobe to fix this on 10.6.2

They do? Oh damn! Glad I am waiting. I have classes in all those coming up. Don't wanna have that added frustration. I can see it crashing after hours of coding. I save alot.. but you guys know how it is to just "barely" miss saving something and lose alot of work. hehe come on 10.6.2!!

RobertFranz

Nov 10, 2009, 02:29 PM

We've been running CS4 (Indesign and PS) on a 4 gig mini for about 6 months.

It was ok under Leopard - puked once in a while.

We've been waiting for SL for Exchange integration, so I jumped on the upgrade as soon as it was released.

Started having problems almost immediately.

Adobe apps would crash, hang on boot.

Checked and repaired permissions, which resulted in a no boot situation.

Took it to the Apple Store - they tried recovering data - failed epically, but blamed the file system rather than hardware.

Brought it back to the office, installed OSX to a flash drive, booted to it, recovered all my data except for some unrecoverable adobe preference files.

Recovering data took a while, so I moved the user to a newish Imac - Leopard 10.6 - started having problems there.

Read a post similar to one here about upgrade vs clean install, wiped the imac and installed SL clean.

Worked much better, but still a few crashes.

Put the user back on the mini, clean install of SL, CS4, Ilife, Iwork, all the auto updates.

Started having the same problems almost immediately.

Now, I don't know if it's hardware (Apple Store sez No - but they can't even master basic data recovery, so I question the value of their opinion) software, or interop problems.