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Sep 11, 2009, 09:47 AM
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Description:: Apple's new iPod lineup, unveiled by Chief Executive Officer Steve Jobs on his first public appearance since his liver transplant, disappoins investors as it didn't add as many new features as some analysts predicted, Bloomberg reported on Wednesday.

Investors may have expected Apple to add built-in cameras to more iPods, said Gene Munster, an analyst at Piper Jaffray & Co. in Minneapolis. Instead, Apple only added a video camera to one model, the iPod Nano. The company unveiled the new lineup at an event in San Francisco.

In addition to the video camera, the iPod Nano has a built- in FM radio and pedometer. The 8-gigabyte device costs $149, while a 16-gigabyte model goes for $179. Investors probably expected to see a camera on the new iPod Touch as well, Munster said. The iPod Touch uses the same touch screen as the iPhone and can run applications from Apple's App Store.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20090910/ipods-disappointing-steve-jobs-return-event.htm

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Scepticalscribe
Sep 11, 2009, 10:44 AM
Yes, I imagine that's the common consensus. While I'm a fan of the classic, if the Touch had been upgraded (to more than 64GB) I would have seriously considered splashing out on one. Oh well, not now Apple, my money stays in my pcoket for the moment.

Cheers

jtgotsjets
Sep 11, 2009, 01:51 PM
Yeah, what the hell? Why do all the fantastic updates to a dying race of music players (iPod nanos) instead of one of their flagship products? Epic fail on Apple's part.

miki66
Sep 11, 2009, 03:17 PM
Yeah, what the hell? Why do all the fantastic updates to a dying race of music players (iPod nanos) instead of one of their flagship products? Epic fail on Apple's part.

that's exactly why they integrated the camera to nano not the touch as the nano was calling to be saved from death

joelovesapple
Sep 11, 2009, 05:50 PM
that's exactly why they integrated the camera to nano not the touch as the nano was calling to be saved from death

Well everyone thought the classic was facing death; that did not have any new updates apart from a storage increase - did not die.

I'm not bashing it because I really want one.

:apple:

twoodcc
Sep 11, 2009, 06:06 PM
well i don't the event was that bad. i mean sure, we are always disappointed from these type of events anyways

joelovesapple
Sep 11, 2009, 06:10 PM
well i don't the event was that bad. i mean sure, we are always disappointed from these type of events anyways

Completely agree with you, twoodcc. Some people just react like little cry babies over something so trivial.

Get over it.

ukmacpro
Sep 11, 2009, 08:23 PM
Yeah, what the hell? Why do all the fantastic updates to a dying race of music players (iPod nanos) instead of one of their flagship products? Epic fail on Apple's part.

Wrong... The iPod nano IS Apples flagship product. It's is the biggest selling music player of all time. In my opinion the iPod touch is still a niche market. For people who are interested in listening to music the iPod nano is the first choice of music player.

Look at the 50% of customers that are new to the iPod line-up (as mentioned in the keynote) I'm sure the that the most popular player of choice was the nano. It is simply for people who want to listen to music on the move. With the new features that have been added I see it becoming more popular, not less. Definitely not a dying race in the slightest.

A camera will come to the iPod Touch line in the next update. Guaranteed! We'll just have to wait another year!

spillproof
Sep 12, 2009, 02:58 AM
Well, if the investors didn't have such high hopes! Their fault, they caused their own disappointment. If they just would have read macrumors (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/09/07/its-only-rock-and-roll-banner-and-last-minute-ipod-production-problems/) to see that the touch had a camera module breakdown, things would be fine! [No, really, having high hopes as an investor based on a rumor is only asking for trouble and disappointment]!

shadow1
Sep 12, 2009, 04:42 AM
By Setember 2010 will there be 128 GB flash memory in the ipod touch? Is it likely that flash memory will keep doubling faster than Moore's Law?

alphaod
Sep 12, 2009, 02:14 PM
Love the extra capacity on the classic without an added thickness.

yancey47
Sep 12, 2009, 03:31 PM
Stuff like this amazes me. "Disappointed?" Are these people aware that this is a device that can put many full albums, tv shows, movies, games, and act as a PDA, alarm clock, phone book, and store photos on it? just to name a few. All for 200 dollars.

Andrmgic
Sep 12, 2009, 06:01 PM
Stuff like this amazes me. "Disappointed?" Are these people aware that this is a device that can put many full albums, tv shows, movies, games, and act as a PDA, alarm clock, phone book, and store photos on it? just to name a few. All for 200 dollars.

People are disappointed because that same device could be had last year for $20 more than they are currently asking for it.

Honestly, I don't know about you folks, but I was happier to see Steve back and looking well than anything they had to show us.

Full of Win
Sep 12, 2009, 06:05 PM
That was one of the saddest presentations I've ever seen. The last few of these I've watched, I've gotten this old/stale feeling creeping over me.

1. Give us the freaking tablet
2. Give us the headless Mac
3. Give us an AppleTV that makes sense

Full of Win
Sep 12, 2009, 06:08 PM
By Setember 2010 will there be 128 GB flash memory in the ipod touch? Is it likely that flash memory will keep doubling faster than Moore's Law?

Well, based on this New York Times article, there might be an issue

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/22/counting-down-to-the-end-of-moores-law/

Fair warning, the NYT is known to make stuff up, so I'd check with a reputable news outlet.

DaftUnion
Sep 12, 2009, 06:43 PM
Love the extra capacity on the classic without an added thickness.

Love the 160gb classic as well now. After two years of holding out, I'm going to buy one.

ROGERWILCO357
Sep 12, 2009, 10:40 PM
the classic is what it is an awesome music player with all the room needed to store what ever the user wants..;) I too will be adding one of the classics to my collection . I have 2 others that are now considered classics just because they are over 5 years old hmm ..wow I'm getting old..:eek:no I am classic:rolleyes:

NT1440
Sep 12, 2009, 10:43 PM
Yeah, what the hell? Why do all the fantastic updates to a dying race of music players (iPod nanos) instead of one of their flagship products? Epic fail on Apple's part.

Dying race of music players? WTF are you talking about? The nano is apples best selling device.

zombitronic
Sep 13, 2009, 03:26 PM
That was one of the saddest presentations I've ever seen. The last few of these I've watched, I've gotten this old/stale feeling creeping over me.

1. Give us the freaking tablet
2. Give us the headless Mac
3. Give us an AppleTV that makes sense

1. iPhone/iPod touch
2. Mac Mini
3. Mac Mini

zetzetone
Sep 13, 2009, 03:54 PM
Love the 160gb classic as well now. After two years of holding out, I'm going to buy one.

Something I dont understand:everybody being happy about 160Gb Classic.
I already have one for two years and got it before Apple went back to 120Gb.
I was hoping for 240Gb. There's no news for me (and many others) with only a 160Gb classic. Its too bad really.

one1
Sep 13, 2009, 04:30 PM
The touch will eat into Apples iPhone sales too much if they add the camera. It's what they have purposely withheld and if they decide the phone has ran it's course they'll stick a camera in the touch only then.

justaregularjoe
Sep 13, 2009, 08:33 PM
The touch will eat into Apples iPhone sales too much if they add the camera. It's what they have purposely withheld and if they decide the phone has ran it's course they'll stick a camera in the touch only then.

not to mention that it is tres uncool to bill the touch as an iPhone without a phone.

dwman
Sep 14, 2009, 12:33 AM
Something I dont understand:everybody being happy about 160Gb Classic.
I already have one for two years and got it before Apple went back to 120Gb.
I was hoping for 240Gb. There's no news for me (and many others) with only a 160Gb classic. Its too bad really.

There's a very small percentage of people who have a need for such massive amounts of storage. Apple is aiming for the fat middle, not the fringe consumers. Hence, I don't think you're going to see the classic updated except for more storage or maybe lower prices in the future.

McBeats
Sep 14, 2009, 04:42 AM
i think the ipod touches were a disappointment...

but i think the nanos arent by any means disappointing... very cool update.

ob81
Sep 14, 2009, 09:44 AM
I wasn't that disappointed. It is only so much that you can do with the nano. It does it's job. The camera was just a pus.

The touch has generally been marketed as an iPhone without the phone, and then they changed that to a gaming device. This is a disapointment to people that didn't want the iphone, but loved the features. The idea of most has always been that the iPhone and the touch were getting more and more similar.

As usual, when a company starts making tons of money, they often think of ways to make more. One of those ways in not hurting sells of 1 product with another.

Luap
Sep 14, 2009, 09:53 AM
For as long as these 'analysts' have been trying to stick their noses in to the Apple business, i've been telling you guys that analysts are absolutely full of BS.

Here is yet more proof.

Maybe one day Mac rumors and other Mac sites will realise and stop posting crap from analysts.

PeterQVenkman
Sep 15, 2009, 02:12 PM
but i think the nanos arent by any means disappointing... very cool update.

If you were looking at a Nano before the show, it just got WAY more tempting to buy. They will sell like hotcakes.

I might buy one now instead of a touch.

michael.lauden
Sep 15, 2009, 02:15 PM
If you were looking at a Nano before the show, it just got WAY more tempting to buy. They will sell like hotcakes.

I might buy one now instead of a touch.

i don't know about that purchase... i would get an iPod touch any day before i got an iPod nano.

savoirfaire
Sep 15, 2009, 03:41 PM
If you were looking at a Nano before the show, it just got WAY more tempting to buy. They will sell like hotcakes.

I might buy one now instead of a touch.

I don't think the updates will convince anyone who was on the fence, but they are definitely nice perks.

macrem
Sep 15, 2009, 05:53 PM
Hitler's obviously pissed that there's no camera in the Touch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vECSyaegm1U)

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nc7r
Sep 16, 2009, 05:04 AM
Yes, I imagine that's the common consensus. While I'm a fan of the classic, if the Touch had been upgraded (to more than 64GB) I would have seriously considered splashing out on one. Oh well, not now Apple, my money stays in my pcoket for the moment.

Cheers

Do you realise how much 128GB SSD's are these days? It's about 225 just for a 2.5" SSD which wouldn't be close to fitting in an iPod Touch.

Spock
Sep 16, 2009, 10:46 AM
I am pleased with the Nano update I am planning on picking one up soon. As far as the touch goes, according to the hardware Apple could add an FM tuner and 802.11n that would make the new update worth it to me.