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alpinadvl
Sep 11, 2009, 11:10 PM
I have searched and searched and searched :

Question :
Does the Apple Superdrive work thru a USB hub (powered or un-powered) ?

Answers (from searches and pm'd info):
1. Will work when plugged into rear of Apple Cinema Display (confirmed)
2. Will work thru IOGEAR GUH285 (http://www.provantage.com/iogear-guh285~7IOGA018.htm) (tested, does NOT work) and also, the unit will self destruct within days/weeks DO NOT BUY !!
3. Will work via Sabrent SBT-U2HA Ultra Slim USB Hub (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1440536&CatId=392&SRCCODE=LINKSHARE&cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&AffiliateID=X3Th4gZi_iQ-wFxfmKoZHC5C0vSh3mv4rg) (unconfirmed)
4. Will not work - because it uses different power rating
5. Will work - the power rating issue is insignificant
6. Will work via (any) USB hub while using Windows (Bootcamp) - but not in Mac OS X
7. Will work with "Mi MicroHub Innovations Model #USB220N (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000WCQY7Y/growinglifestyle/ref=nosim) (4-Port Hi-Speed USB Travel Hub) with a powersource from BestBuy; total everything cost about $18 plus tax." (thanks to SFStatestudent for giving me this info)

Tested (by me) :
1. Kensington 3-USB minidock with Ethernet port (link) (http://us.kensington.com/html/17164.html)- NYET !
2. Belkin 4-usb or 7-usb hub (powered) - NEIN !
3. Gigaware (at Radioshack) 4 usb (non powered hub) - NUNCA!
4. Logitech 4 port hub (link) (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Premium-4-Port-USB-Hub/dp/B000RZUV9S/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1252728891&sr=8-14) - NOPE !
5. Dynex 4-usb port (at Best Buy (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8467303&type=product&id=1193234014592&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=8467303)) - NADA !
6. IOGEAR GUH285 (also sold under other brand names, such as "TRUST" in germany where I bought mine. The unit burned out within exactly 1 week of purchase - DO NOT BUY, DOES NOT WORK
7. MBA superdrive in black packaging (with "MB397G/A" on the box), and also tested MBA superdrive in white (newer) packaging (with same "MB397G/A" on the box) - [b]MAKES NO DIFFERENCE

Curious About...

THE FOLLOWING WAS ADDED/UPDATED October 23, 2009 :
1. Cardette Media Card Reader and USB hub (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000XPAG6K/ref=s9_simz_gw_s0_p23_t1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_r=14GRZ7M3JX4M1QBFHF4X&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470939291&pf_rd_i=507846) --> Does NOT work with Superdrive...... see review (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=8696747&postcount=36) later in thread, but in summary : RECOMMEND IT !

2. Belkin USB 2.0 THUMB DRIVE (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ENRPTM/ref=ox_ya_oh_product) --> Does NOT work with SD,
but will work unpowered with 4 other devices, including External Hard drive, ipod, usb flash drive (all tested together) (Very compact and straightforwatd Unit. Includes Power Adapter. RECOMMEND IT !

3.Belkin USB SWIVEL HUB (http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=377085) --> Does NOT work.
I did not like the pivot of this unit (I know a lot of other people do) - but it has questionable quality for me. It may be good for those "tight" corners. (**OF NOTE: that above USB 2.0 THUMB DRIVE - inserts EXACTLY flush with the MBA... so that the base is EXACTLY even with the base of the MBA)

4. LaCIE Core 4 USB 2.0 HUB (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002CPZZK6/ref=ox_ya_oh_product) - Does NOT work with SD.
This is an "interesting device"... it includes a min-USB cable, so you dont have to bring one for your mini-USB devices...which is neat. It has a top loading port for USB devices, which is very handy, and 2 additional USB ports on the side. HERE'S THE PROBLEM : this unit will NOT work with my External (Western Digital 500gb) hard drive. PLUS it does NOT include a power adapter...but does have a hole for one. The other downside I can see... is that the USB and mini-USB cables are "pinched" to keep them in the case all neat... and obviously this can be concerning over time.

*NOTE: look at LaCie's website to better understand the device... the pictures may be a bit confusing at first. If it worked with my Hard drive I would keep it in a second

5. GigaWare 4-port USB 2.0 hub (With built in retractable cable) - found at Radio Shack - does not work (Surprise surprise)

6. ioGear USB 2.0 Hub and Card reader (http://www.amazon.com/IOGear-Combo-Reader-Mini-B-GUH286/dp/B0028MEZFE/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1256665946&sr=8-4) - this unit has:
5 dedicated card reader slots
5 usb ports
1 mini usb built in cable
external power supply

the issue with this unit is it gives the "this device needs external power support" error...even though it continued to function fine without an additional power source hooked up (I did not however do extensive tests with it). I would consider this unit as a desktop piece, with occasional road use.

biggest con: size. they could have easily made this thing half it's size. I bet there is a lot of empty space in there !

7. Belkin 7-port lighted usb hub (http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Hi-Speed-7-Port-Lighted-F5U700/dp/B000SDW84K/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1256666226&sr=1-8) - no SD
this is a standard issue belkin hub. no problems. the only annoying thing is the ridiculous overkill blue led lighting. which some may like, but i didnt. I bought this as a desktop hub replacement... but will return it, and get something a little more inconspicuous. i am not reviewing its portability...because if you need to carry a 7 port hub around with you on the road....you have other issues !


[b] CAN ANYONE PLEASE ADD A DEFINITE HUB THEY KNOW TO WORK?

THANKS !

alf



Scottsdale
Sep 12, 2009, 12:18 AM
I have tried various USB hubs. The one certainty between powered and non-powered is there is NO certainty.

The big difference is THE PORT you use on the USB hub... YES, you read that correctly. I have had non-powered hubs work absolutely fine in a certain port and not at all in another port. SAME EXACT thing for POWERED... in three ports may work perfect, in last (or first) port you check may not work at all.

I am convinced that somehow power is ultimately flowing through certain ports on USB devices, but I don't know how or why the reasoning.

Another thing I have noticed is the number or type of devices connected to the other reports may alter the device's response on any certain port on the device.

Finally, I have noticed certain service updates will alter the ACD from working. I remember it all the sudden not working through a device it usually worked through, but I had done a service update. By the next service update it was working again.

I use primarily the 24" LED ACD OR the GE powered USB hub for most all connections ever. I keep an extra non-powered hub in my bag in the rare need I might ever have, it's an IO Gear (it USUALLY works without power).

At the end of the day, remember these are all cheap $10/20 USB hubs, what do you expect? Until Apple comes out with its own brand, we are all going to wonder whether it works on our next attempt or if a software "patch/upgrade" screws up the whole deal!

alpinadvl
Sep 12, 2009, 12:55 AM
Thanks for chiming in.....

I think the GE hub you mentioned ($44) is the same as the Sabrent ($6) hub on amazon.

Macintox
Sep 12, 2009, 10:19 AM
Spanking new MBair 2.13 SSD - snow leoprad + Apple superdrive...
Wel well, I did listen to some posts of USB hub compatibility for the new superdrive and bought the Apple instead of the LaCie I had in mind ( with power supply ) .
Alas... It does not work on my Belkin 7 ports USB.
Feels really bad

Can I be sure it works with the 24" display ?

alpinadvl
Sep 12, 2009, 03:28 PM
Can I be sure it works with the 24" display ?

I think it has been everyone's experience that this does indeed work. I will confirm on Monday when I get my refurbished 24" ACD (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=760272&highlight=acd+refurbished)(thanks Scottsdale!)

alf

hitekalex
Sep 12, 2009, 06:47 PM
I have searched and searched and searched :

Question :
Does the Apple Superdrive work thru a USB hub (powered or un-powered) ?

May be not exactly the answer you were looking for, but.. Don't get Apple Superdrive. It's finicky and over priced.

These days you can get BluRay/DVD/CD combo drives for less. This (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150355750100&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:US:1123) is the one i got. It's bus-powered and works with LED Cinema display as well as USB hubs. About the same size as Apple Superdrive, but reads Blu-ray and costs $30 bucks less.

Scottsdale
Sep 12, 2009, 06:53 PM
May be not exactly the answer you were looking for, but.. Don't get Apple Superdrive. It's finicky and over priced.

These days you can get BluRay/DVD/CD combo drives for less. This (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150355750100&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:US:1123) is the one i got. It's bus-powered and works with LED Cinema display as well as USB hubs. About the same size as Apple Superdrive, but reads Blu-ray and costs $30 bucks less.

I would get a BR drive over an Apple SuperDrive. The SuperDrive has a terrible cable that often gets frayed or disconnects from where attaches to drive. Also, if OS X ever starts using it, you will be ready.

alphaod
Sep 12, 2009, 08:29 PM
The SuperDrive has a terrible cable that often gets frayed or disconnects from where attaches to drive. Also, if OS X ever starts using it, you will be ready.

AppleCare will cover that.

alpinadvl
Sep 15, 2009, 10:46 PM
Apple Ciinema Display definitely works (for me w/ a Rev C)

ANYONE have any hub info to ADD?

NC MacGuy
Sep 15, 2009, 11:04 PM
Apple Ciinema Display definitely works (for me w/ a Rev C)

ANYONE have any hub info to ADD?

This has been around for a long time.

http://tnkgrl.wordpress.com/2008/06/24/macbook-air-superdrive-for-all/


It's not a hub thing and of course it will work with the 24" display that Apple advertises it will work with.

Macintox
Sep 18, 2009, 10:47 AM
has anyone tried if the MBair superdrive will work on a USB hub using a Y USB cable ?

NC MacGuy
Sep 18, 2009, 12:21 PM
has anyone tried if the MBair superdrive will work on a USB hub using a Y USB cable ?

(1)Yes and (2)no.

Macintox
Sep 19, 2009, 10:10 AM
(1)Yes and (2)no.

Ok ..makes me feel ripped off once again by Apple... after so many years there is still in that company such a disregard for the customers.
So you buy their 99$ burner , it does not work on a hub although it is proved that it is intentional since it can be modified by changing a tiny part. And it does not work on any other Mac.
Pitiful.
Mine's going to ebay .

Scottsdale
Sep 19, 2009, 11:24 AM
Ok ..makes me feel ripped off once again by Apple... after so many years there is still in that company such a disregard for the customers.
So you buy their 99$ burner , it does not work on a hub although it is proved that it is intentional since it can be modified by changing a tiny part. And it does not work on any other Mac.
Pitiful.
Mine's going to ebay .

It works on most hubs fine. Sometimes non powered, most of the time powered. You're talking about something else with your mod thing... that's to make it work with another computer.

I feel the SuperDrive is a fine drive for use with the MBA. At the same time, if I were buying new now I would buy a Blu Ray Drive as is backwards compatible with DVD/CD and hopefully one day soon Apple will support it and it will play BR on our MBAs.

NC MacGuy
Sep 19, 2009, 02:18 PM
It works on most hubs fine. Sometimes non powered, most of the time powered. You're talking about something else with your mod thing... that's to make it work with another computer.

I feel the SuperDrive is a fine drive for use with the MBA. At the same time, if I were buying new now I would buy a Blu Ray Drive as is backwards compatible with DVD/CD and hopefully one day soon Apple will support it and it will play BR on our MBAs.

The MBA Superdrive shouldn't (hesitated to write doesn't) work on hubs or other computers. The same mod. that allows the drive to work with other computers also allows the drive to work on most USB hubs. Apple support discussions has had running dialogue about the lack of hub compatibility on and off since it was introduced last year.

stoconnell
Sep 19, 2009, 03:08 PM
The MBA Superdrive shouldn't (hesitated to write doesn't) work on hubs or other computers. The same mod. that allows the drive to work with other computers also allows the drive to work on most USB hubs. Apple support discussions has had running dialogue about the lack of hub compatibility on and off since it was introduced last year.

I take it by "shouldn't" you mean that "one should not expect it to" rather than "it's for MacBook Air .. all the rest can go pound sand" ;)

NC MacGuy
Sep 19, 2009, 05:50 PM
I take it by "shouldn't" you mean that "one should not expect it to" rather than "it's for MacBook Air .. all the rest can go pound sand" ;)

Well read.:)

Scottsdale
Sep 19, 2009, 11:21 PM
I take it by "shouldn't" you mean that "one should not expect it to" rather than "it's for MacBook Air .. all the rest can go pound sand" ;)

Well, the bottom line is the MBA SuperDrive works perfectly fine in MOST hubs I have tried. Works in ACD too!

Don't go spreading lies here... most threads I have read show plenty of others using their external MBA SuperDrives through USB hubs (powered and non) and ACDs.

And, it is built for the MBA, as all others have an optical drive included! What would be the point? No, it's not for a PC or as a replacement for a broken Mac's optical drive. Apple would want you to fix that and pay them more.

Want it to work with a different computer, go buy something else, Apple is fine with that too!

EDIT - The bottom line is Apple doesn't have to SUPPORT it with anything other than the MBA, and that's probably the biggest reason why it's the MBA SuperDrive meant to work with MBA ONLY!

stoconnell
Sep 19, 2009, 11:44 PM
Well, the bottom line is the MBA SuperDrive works perfectly fine in MOST hubs I have tried. Works in ACD too!

Don't go spreading lies here... most threads I have read show plenty of others using their external MBA SuperDrives through USB hubs (powered and non) and ACDs.



Yeesh, dude. Please take a chill pill.

I was clarifying the quoted person's comment. The general vibe (well, your mactastically fantastical hyperbolically excellent experiences aside) is that you cannot necessarily count on the drive to work on any given hub. Nor is it necessarily Apple's responsibility to ensure that it does; however, it would be nice if they sold their own that could pull power from the MBA and drive the SuperDrive and provide say 2 or three non-powered ports for things like ethernet or wireless WAN modem, etc. I think it's a missed opportunity.

This might be true of other external USB DVD drives (needing Y-cables, etc) but is particularly galling to people (in light of the lack of second USB port on device or pass through USB port on the drive AND please don't interpret this as a bash on the single USB. I am using it to highlight a case where you've ponied up for the drive and a hub and need to use it and another device. Yes, I know you could buy the ACD, blah blah .. doesn't help you in hotel room on the road .. kind of defeats the purpose of the MBA now doesn't it?).

In fact, the lack of generic utility is one of the reasons that I haven't bought the thing. Also, in the past I have bought machines lacking an internal drive w/o one and never missed it and others where I have bought the drive and not really used it much. I am intrigued by the fastmac Blu-Ray (http://fastmac.com/blurayext) offering. In particular, given your and others accounts of it just working with the Air.

Macintox
Sep 20, 2009, 02:49 AM
It works on most hubs fine. Sometimes non powered, most of the time powered. You're talking about something else with your mod thing... that's to make it work with another computer.

I feel the SuperDrive is a fine drive for use with the MBA. At the same time, if I were buying new now I would buy a Blu Ray Drive as is backwards compatible with DVD/CD and hopefully one day soon Apple will support it and it will play BR on our MBAs.

I can assure you my 2 weeks old superdrive , new from Apple online store "does not work on the many hub we have tried ".
I'll have to sell it on ebay , loose some money and buy the mobile powered Lacie I should have bought in the first place.

RedTomato
Sep 20, 2009, 07:29 AM
I need to buy a hub for my partner's MBA so that she can plug in her SD, keyboard/mouse, and ethernet all at the same time at work. I was really hoping someone in this thread would have an answer. Sigh.

It seems that nobody has any definitive answer. Am I right?

NC MacGuy
Sep 20, 2009, 09:46 AM
I need to buy a hub for my partner's MBA so that she can plug in her SD, keyboard/mouse, and ethernet all at the same time at work. I was really hoping someone in this thread would have an answer. Sigh.

It seems that nobody has any definitive answer. Am I right?

With 99% certainty, I can say it won't work. Best to buy another brand of ext. optical or perform the mod. I linked above. I have one and have tried it on every hub I've had access to and it's always been a no go. That's a big reason I was researching the mod. route in the first place.

It will work on the new 24" ACD just fine but not on an ext. USB hub.

Macintox
Sep 20, 2009, 02:20 PM
I need to buy a hub for my partner's MBA so that she can plug in her SD, keyboard/mouse, and ethernet all at the same time at work. I was really hoping someone in this thread would have an answer. Sigh.

It seems that nobody has any definitive answer. Am I right?

I have 7 USB devices on a Belkin powered hub connected to the MBAir : keyboard & mouse - USB 500GB Hard drive ( for time machine) - apple modem - apple ethernet USB adapter - skype phone - D2 Lacie DVD burner - + either a USB memory stick or a digital camera.
All work beautifully . the one and only that do not work is the Apple Superdrive.
My 99$ advice to all of you. DO not buy an Apple superdrive .

RedTomato
Sep 20, 2009, 02:38 PM
My 99$ advice to all of you. DO not buy an Apple superdrive .

I think you're right there. Sadly Apple have missed a trick with this. A lot of windows users would have bought their SD if it worked with all computers.

Proof of this is the Apple keyboard is one of the top selling keyboards on Amazon as it's one of the best looking keyboards out there. (We'll politely ignore the Mighty Mouse for now)

TBH my partner hardly ever uses her SD, and it lives most of its life collecting dust in the drawer. But it would be nice to have a single USB to plug in everything via a hub.

Which third-party USB optical drive do you recommend? (no need for Blu-ray)

Macintox
Sep 21, 2009, 02:44 AM
I think you're right there. Sadly Apple have missed a trick with this. A lot of windows users would have bought their SD if it worked with all computers.

Proof of this is the Apple keyboard is one of the top selling keyboards on Amazon as it's one of the best looking keyboards out there. (We'll politely ignore the Mighty Mouse for now)

TBH my partner hardly ever uses her SD, and it lives most of its life collecting dust in the drawer. But it would be nice to have a single USB to plug in everything via a hub.

Which third-party USB optical drive do you recommend? (no need for Blu-ray)

The Lacie have always been Mac friendly and good to me, I have 4 different and they are flawless. So for this Macbok air I am ordering the mobile USB burner. The one with power supply, to unload my USB hub as much as possible

RedTomato
Sep 21, 2009, 07:59 AM
The Lacie have always been Mac friendly and good to me, I have 4 different and they are flawless. So for this Macbok air I am ordering the mobile USB burner. The one with power supply, to unload my USB hub as much as possible

Thanks for the advice. It's all sorted now. I forgot she has a very nice Dell Ultrasharp 2007WFP with its own internal 4-port USB powered hub.

So now everything is plugged into the monitor and working fine. (except the Apple SD of course). I find it bizarre that her ethernet is coming through the monitor, but that's modern technology for you.

Macintox
Sep 21, 2009, 10:46 AM
Thanks for the advice. It's all sorted now. I forgot she has a very nice Dell Ultrasharp 2007WFP with its own internal 4-port USB powered hub.

So now everything is plugged into the monitor and working fine. (except the Apple SD of course). I find it bizarre that her ethernet is coming through the monitor, but that's modern technology for you.

Just now, I have the MBAir connected to an NEC 20" + keyboard, modem and 2.5" time machine hard drive connected through the display's 4x USB hub.
I tried to add the erthernet adapter but got several kernel panics !
I have read that the uses of this Ethernet adapter is tricky with MBair while on a hub.

RedTomato
Sep 21, 2009, 12:32 PM
Just now, I have the MBAir connected to an NEC 20" + keyboard, modem and 2.5" time machine hard drive connected through the display's 4x USB hub.
I tried to add the erthernet adapter but got several kernel panics !
I have read that the uses of this Ethernet adapter is tricky with MBair while on a hub.

I haven't connected a HD through the hub. It's possible that the external HD and Ethernet are overloading the USB (is the modem a cable modem too?).

Try connecting ethernet without the HD and the modem, and see if it works, then connect one of these and see.

Macintox
Sep 22, 2009, 05:27 AM
I haven't connected a HD through the hub. It's possible that the external HD and Ethernet are overloading the USB (is the modem a cable modem too?).

Try connecting ethernet without the HD and the modem, and see if it works, then connect one of these and see.

good idea. I tried with only the ethernet adapter on the hub and same think...kernel panic.
So I have added an airport express to the router and it seems to be Ok now....as long as I use Firefox..Safari does also makes kernel panics.
I had my doubts when buying a computer with only one USB... but I dislike the glass screen of the macbook pro 13" and its glass trackpad. So I bought this one and I have to learn how to get around all its limitations.
Hope the next one will have at least 2 USB, 4GB memory and a better superdrive.

alice?
Sep 24, 2009, 01:20 PM
Hi...
I just got a "like new" SD from eBay and was wondering if they are supposed to run so loudly. I've only used it once so far and only to install some printer software. Do I return it or is that normal?

PracticalMac
Sep 24, 2009, 06:02 PM
USB is regulated by the "USB-IF" USB Implementers Forum.

All devices are designed to comply with this power spec:

The USB 1.x and 2.0 specifications provide a 5 V supply on a single wire from which connected USB devices may draw power. The specification provides for no more than 5.25 V and no less than 4.75 V (5 Vą5%) between the positive and negative bus power lines. For USB 2.0 the voltage supplied by low-powered hub ports is 4.4 V to 5.25 V.

A unit load is defined as 100 mA in USB 2.0, A maximum of 5 unit loads (500 mA) can be drawn from a port in USB 2.0.

If the USB device/hub senses overcurrent, a safety switch shuts it down.

When Apple designed MBA and SD, they violated the specs that 99.99% of all other USB mfg make. Anything you place in between will likely not tolerate the overpower loads, and shutdown.

USB2 puts a heavy demand on the CPU usage, and the more devices you connect to that single USB, the faster the performance degrades.
On top of that, a Gigabit Ethernet exceeds the data transfer rate of USB2, so practically if you want to use GigaNet, you should not use a Hub either!


Ironically, Apples own FireWire bus is more then capable to power/use the SD, Gigabit Ethernet, and external HDD all at the same time without breaking a sweat.

Yeah,
WTH was Apple (Jobs????) thinking.

notjustjay
Sep 24, 2009, 07:33 PM
Ironically, Apples own FireWire bus is more then capable to power/use the SD, Gigabit Ethernet, and external HDD all at the same time without breaking a sweat.


Does anyone make a small Firewire-to-USB (power connectors only) adaptor? Then you could use one of the USB Y-cables to draw power from the Firewire port.

I haven't tried it, but the Samsung SE-T084 is a slim, USB DVD burner that's also slot-loading and matches the Apple aesthetic.

stoconnell
Sep 24, 2009, 08:18 PM
USB2 puts a heavy demand on the CPU usage, and the more devices you connect to that single USB, the faster the performance degrades.
On top of that, a Gigabit Ethernet exceeds the data transfer rate of USB2, so practically if you want to use GigaNet, you should not use a Hub either!


USB->ethernet adapters are 10/100 not GigE.

PracticalMac
Sep 28, 2009, 01:09 PM
USB->ethernet adapters are 10/100 not GigE.

Thanks for correction. Testing a Giganet USB at work, made me think the Apple one was also Gig.

NC MacGuy
Sep 29, 2009, 11:51 AM
Does anyone make a small Firewire-to-USB (power connectors only) adaptor? Then you could use one of the USB Y-cables to draw power from the Firewire port.

I haven't tried it, but the Samsung SE-T084 is a slim, USB DVD burner that's also slot-loading and matches the Apple aesthetic.

I don't get it, are you referring to drawing power from firewire on an Air?

alpinadvl
Oct 23, 2009, 05:36 PM
PLEASE NOTE:

A. I updated the first post, with the following :


1. Cardette Media Card Reader and USB hub (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000XPAG6K/ref=s9_simz_gw_s0_p23_t1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_r=14GRZ7M3JX4M1QBFHF4X&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470939291&pf_rd_i=507846) --> Does NOT work with Superdrive...... see review later in thread, but in summary : RECOMMEND IT !

2. Belkin USB 2.0 THUMB DRIVE (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ENRPTM/ref=ox_ya_oh_product) --> Does NOT work with SD, but will work unpowered with 4 other devices, including External Hard drive, ipod, usb flash drive (all tested together) (Very compact and straightforwatd Unit. Includes Power Adapter. RECOMMEND IT !

3.Belkin USB SWIVEL HUB (http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=377085) --> Does NOT work. I did not like the pivot of this unit (I know a lot of other people do) - but it has questionable quality for me. It may be good for those "tight" corners. (**OF NOTE: that above USB 2.0 THUMB DRIVE - inserts EXACTLY flush with the MBA... so that the base is EXACTLY even with the base of the MBA)

4. LaCIE Core 4 USB 2.0 HUB (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002CPZZK6/ref=ox_ya_oh_product) - Does NOT work with SD. This is an "interesting device"... it includes a min-USB cable, so you dont have to bring one for your mini=USB devices...which is neat. It has a top loading port for USB devices, which is very handy, and 2 additional USB ports on the side. HERE'S THE PROBLEM : this unit will NOT work with my External (Western Digital 500gb) hard drive. PLUS it does NOT include a power adapter...but does have a hole for one.
*NOTE: look at LaCie's website to better understand the device... the pictures may be a bit confusing at first. If it worked with my Hard drive I would keep it in a second


B. Cardette USB Card Reader and HUB (REVIEW)

This is a nice and well built unit. Very simple and straight forward.
It gives you :

2 USB 2.0 ports,
a dedicated CF card reader,
and a dedicated SD card reader
a USB extension cable
a velcro looped clip on / key chain hook

What I like about the unit, is that the USB cable "tucks in" on the case itself (why arent more hubs / devices designed this way)
1. When it is plugged in the "moshi" logo lights up... nice
2. When a CF or SD card is inserted, there is a status light that also lights up
3. It works with my external WD Hard Drive

What I do NOT like about it :
1. There are only] 2 USB ports...which basically means you will only be gaining 1 additional port
2. There is NO place for a power adapter to plug into it....why???... I dont have trouble using it with the current devices I am using with it... but maybe there will be an issue down the road.

Bottom Line :
I am KEEPING this unit.... it does basically what I need to do, even though it does not have an additional port, which I would like. However, the added Card Reading ability is a plus for me.

NC MacGuy
Oct 23, 2009, 09:54 PM
Good news, got the MBA SD to work with every USB hub I've tried, even on my MB, MBP's and PC's with & without a hub.:eek:


Bad news is, you do have to perform the hardware mod.
Not that hard and only costs $10.

alpinadvl
Oct 23, 2009, 10:01 PM
Good news, got the MBA SD to work with every USB hub I've tried, even on my MB, MBP's and PC's with & without a hub.:eek:


Bad news is, you do have to perform the hardware mod.
Not that hard and only costs $10.

I have read about the modification...but all the follow up reports state that

reading and writing CDs works ok
reading DVDs are hit or miss
writing DVDs does not work.

can you confirm any of the above, and provide a link for which mod you did?

alf

NC MacGuy
Oct 23, 2009, 11:49 PM
I have read about the modification...but all the follow up reports state that

reading and writing CDs works ok
reading DVDs are hit or miss
writing DVDs does not work.

can you confirm any of the above, and provide a link for which mod you did?

alf

I've been able to read every DVD I've put in it. I tested by ripping a bunch of DVD's and using the MBA SD to install SL on my MBP twice. Also used it to make a copy of SL & Leopard to USB drives. No problems writing CD's either.

Have not tried burning a DVD yet. Don't have any media and frankly have burned around ten in 5 years.

Here's the $10.00 part:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Laptop-Notebook-Slim-CD-DVD-Rom-Drive-to-USB-Adapter_W0QQitemZ170375371459QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item27ab29dac3#ht_3231wt_103 2

Did it myself in about 1/2 an hour. I had to sacrifice a USB cable to make sure the wires were correct on the new board. You have to unsolder the USB/DC IN board from the new adapter. Pretty much along the same lines as what tankgirl did only you don't have to move the crystal.

Took it over to a friends house and it worked there too on three different Macs and played every DVD the doubter put in.;)

Matter of fact, I'm supposed to mod. that one as a favor. Maybe I'll take pic's this time and do a step by step if I feel motivated or there's enough interest.

On playing DVD's with anything but an Air from the MBA SD:
You have to use VLC unless you do another hack of the DVD Frameworks file in System. That hack will allow you to use Apple's nifty DVD Player app.

Scottsdale
Oct 24, 2009, 01:51 AM
I've been able to read every DVD I've put in it. I tested by ripping a bunch of DVD's and using the MBA SD to install SL on my MBP twice. Also used it to make a copy of SL & Leopard to USB drives. No problems writing CD's either.

Have not tried burning a DVD yet. Don't have any media and frankly have burned around ten in 5 years.

Here's the $10.00 part:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Laptop-Notebook-Slim-CD-DVD-Rom-Drive-to-USB-Adapter_W0QQitemZ170375371459QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item27ab29dac3#ht_3231wt_103 2

Did it myself in about 1/2 an hour. I had to sacrifice a USB cable to make sure the wires were correct on the new board. You have to unsolder the USB/DC IN board from the new adapter. Pretty much along the same lines as what tankgirl did only you don't have to move the crystal.

Took it over to a friends house and it worked there too on three different Macs and played every DVD the doubter put in.;)

Matter of fact, I'm supposed to mod. that one as a favor. Maybe I'll take pic's this time and do a step by step if I feel motivated or there's enough interest.

On playing DVD's with anything but an Air from the MBA SD:
You have to use VLC unless you do another hack of the DVD Frameworks file in System. That hack will allow you to use Apple's nifty DVD Player app.

You had to do that to get your MBA SuperDrive to work through a hub? Mine works fine through most right out of the box. Do you have the older A126xx model? Or the newer MBxxx model?

NC MacGuy
Oct 24, 2009, 02:08 AM
You had to do that to get your MBA SuperDrive to work through a hub? Mine works fine through most right out of the box. Do you have the older A126xx model? Or the newer MBxxx model?

No, it doesn't. If so, you've got magical hubs and a truly Super, SuperDrive.
Have you read this thread. No hubs work with unmodified MBA SuperDrives.

Scottsdale
Oct 25, 2009, 04:51 AM
No, it doesn't. If so, you've got magical hubs and a truly Super, SuperDrive.
Have you read this thread. No hubs work with unmodified MBA SuperDrives.

That's just not true. Mine has worked with more powered USB hubs than not. Usually not with unpowered but even so with one unpowered.

What version do you have? A12xx or MBxx? The A starting MBA is original. The MB is the newer one which I have. There have been reports of MBA SuperDrives working with powered hubs all over these threads. Also that the original doesn't but newer one does. Others have reported exact same findings as I have reported here. I am not crazy here, it simply works in most powered hubs I have tried and works on a few ports in non-powered hubs.

Hate to disagree with you but seen with my own eyes. One thing to note, a few people have reported losing capability after certain updates to Leopard. I told someone I would try mine on Snow Leopard as hadn't used MBA SD since upgrade to Snow Leopard. Perhaps you either don't have newer SD or tried in early version of Leopard and not since as you have altered your SD?

NC MacGuy
Oct 25, 2009, 08:54 AM
That's just not true. Mine has worked with more powered USB hubs than not. Usually not with unpowered but even so with one unpowered.

What version do you have? A12xx or MBxx?

Most likely have an Axxx since I bought it with my Rev. A.

Unless they changed something since the end of June, Apple support says they won't work on a hub either and doesn't differentiate between the two versions. So if yours does work, it's broke!:p Hold on to it.:

alpinadvl
Oct 27, 2009, 12:44 PM
MY CONCLUSION :

1. USB hubs in my experience do not work with the Apple Superdrive and the MBA.

2. Of those who have said that it does work - it seems they either were mistaken or it was working previously with Leopard....but the drive must be the "MB39" variety

3. I have to make a lot of USB hub returns this week ! lol...

4. I am going the "NC Macguy/Tankgirl route" (just ordered the part to swap with the internal apple one) - so hopefully I can put this all to rest.

5. Apple crippled the drive for restricted use - it seems that this was done to prevent the need to support it on other computers / platforms - when it is essentially a "money loser" for them.

6. My Recommended hubs :
moshi cardette (pos: built in card readers, small, tuck away usb plug neg: only 2 usb ports, no external power option)

belkin 4port thumb hub (pos: simple, fits, neg: none)

iogear usb 5 port usb hub with 4 dedicated card slot readers (pos: many ports, card reader, external power, designed like WD Passport drive neg : unecesarily bulky, gets "needs external power supply" error - even though device works perfectly fine without the included power supply)


ps: one final thought - Apple superdrive has been made to work with the new mini servers... I wonder if this is a newer designated model, or if it is the same drive just enabled in the firmware/software of the mini server?

ps: this thread can now be buried ! :)

Scottsdale
Oct 27, 2009, 02:04 PM
First, my original MBA SuperDrive didn't have the part NC MacGuy reported installing.

I have previously reported my MBA SD working with powered and even non-powered hubs. Unfortunately, my SuperDrive broke a month or so ago, and I bought a new MBA SD. Not thinking anything about the possibility that the new SD wouldn't work, I tried it with a hub to report to the OP here. Unfortunately, the new SD is not working through a powered hub. The only difference is my MBA now has Snow Leopard on it. My old hub did work on the same MBA before Snow Leopard was installed and on my rev B MBA.

So, can anyone report their MBA SD working on Leopard through a powered or non-powered hub? I am wondering what the deal is... or if this is a result of Snow Leopard?

NC MacGuy
Oct 27, 2009, 02:23 PM
ps: one final thought - Apple superdrive has been made to work with the new mini servers... I wonder if this is a newer designated model, or if it is the same drive just enabled in the firmware/software of the mini server?

ps: this thread can now be buried ! :)

The new mini servers don't have a built in optical so I'm betting Apple allows them to use the same old MBA SuperDrives. There's nothing stating otherwise.

I did get mine to write to a DVD, actually two of them. Now I remember why I hardly ever burn opticals - takes for freakin' ever. Worked on two out of three DVD+RW discs which is something else I remember - the flakiness of the media.:rolleyes:

GoCubsGo
Oct 27, 2009, 02:26 PM
So, can anyone report their MBA SD working on Leopard through a powered or non-powered hub? I am wondering what the deal is... or if this is a result of Snow Leopard?

I have an unmodded MBAir SD. I just plugged it into a Mac Mini with Leopard installed via a powered USB hub and it did not work.

My SD was purchased the first week of February 2009. Fortunately, it matters not because I am going to have mine modded to work just about anywhere I need/want.

-snip-
4. I am going the "NC Macguy/Tankgirl route" (just ordered the part to swap with the internal apple one) - so hopefully I can put this all to rest.

-snip-
ps: this thread can now be buried ! :)

Don't bury it. It is great to have a user here who knows what he is doing so we can learn. I think this topic is rather important for some.

sdlnxgk
May 21, 2014, 10:23 PM
If this issue has been ongoing for years, why hasn't apple addressed the issue in making a hub of their own that will fix the issue. I guess I need to take my Apple Superdrive back and get a different model. I have way to many USB devices and thanks to Apple on their new MBP for only having two USB 3.0 ports.

1080p
May 23, 2014, 01:30 PM
If this issue has been ongoing for years, why hasn't apple addressed the issue in making a hub of their own that will fix the issue. I guess I need to take my Apple Superdrive back and get a different model. I have way to many USB devices and thanks to Apple on their new MBP for only having two USB 3.0 ports.

Why did you reply to a 5 year old thread?

ABC5S
May 26, 2014, 06:37 AM
Why did you reply to a 5 year old thread?

This is his first ever post since joining the forum back in 2010. That should give you a reason. :eek: :D

Eagle86C
Jul 7, 2014, 04:29 AM
What about a hub that like a A/B swithcer where only one device at a time is connected? At least youu wont have to keep plugging and unplugging... Will this work?