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MacAztec
Jul 8, 2004, 06:02 PM
I will be getting a car soon, and I have about 7500 dollars to spend. I am thinking a '02 Ford Ranger V6. They run about 7200. I think I want a truck, but a car is not ruled out yet. I want something that gets fairly decent milage too.

I also think an SVT Focus Hatchback would be sweet. I can't find one in my price range though.

blackfox
Jul 8, 2004, 06:21 PM
I think you should get a Volvo. It is just my opinion that all new drivers be (for their own protection) forced to drive relatively slow, impervious vehicles that Volvo exemplifies (at least traditionally). You will probably not get in trouble for speeding, any fender-benders will not damage your vehicle, and in a serious accident a Volvo might save your a**. Also, cheaper insurance rates. If you need space get a wagon...

BTW, I drive a Volvo wagon...third Volvo I've owned...

jsw
Jul 8, 2004, 06:30 PM
One of the best cars I ever owned was a Mazda MX-6 V6 stick. Should run you less than a third of your budget.

gwuMACaddict
Jul 8, 2004, 06:35 PM
I think you should get a Volvo. It is just my opinion that all new drivers be (for their own protection) forced to drive relatively slow, impervious vehicles that Volvo exemplifies (at least traditionally)

i second the volvo, get someting that was previously leased. and don't worry, they aren't all that slow anymore... ;)

Capt Underpants
Jul 8, 2004, 06:37 PM
I'll be turning 16 n about 10 months, and I have been wanting a used Jetta. I haven't really even looked at cost, but I really like the VW Jetta. It's definately not a truck (and I know that you said you were more of a truck person).

blackfox
Jul 8, 2004, 06:42 PM
I'll be turning 16 n about 10 months, and I have been wanting a used Jetta. I haven't really even looked at cost, but I really like the VW Jetta. It's definately not a truck (and I know that you said you were more of a truck person).
The TDI's look mighty attractive...excellent gas mileage and decent performance (I am not a performance-minded car buyer)...looking at them myself, although I will probably buy an older (80'S) Mercedes Turbo-Diesel Wagon instead...I like old cars, and recycling...

cheekyspanky
Jul 8, 2004, 07:09 PM
I'd say a Focus, it's a good car and pretty good in economy terms, what size engines do you have for it over there? a 1.6 litre would do, or a 1.8

bousozoku
Jul 8, 2004, 07:22 PM
I'd say a Focus, it's a good car and pretty good in economy terms, what size engines do you have for it over there? a 1.6 litre would do, or a 1.8

As you might expect from the U.S.A., they're 2.0 and 2.3 litre engines. ;) Bigger is better, right?

MacAztec:

I drove a Focus rental car recently and I was impressed at how good it seemed. Of course, the SVT is out of the price range. If you're willing to go with a Ranger, you should be able to handle the less extreme sport version of the Focus.

Capt Underpants:

Being on my 4th VW, I really wouldn't suggest one of the models older than 1999, if you don't have a big budget for maintenance. VWs tend to be expensive after the sale.

Why not a Mazda Protegé 5 or mp3?

Sabbath
Jul 8, 2004, 07:24 PM
I think you should get a Volvo. It is just my opinion that all new drivers be (for their own protection) forced to drive relatively slow, impervious vehicles that Volvo exemplifies (at least traditionally). You will probably not get in trouble for speeding, any fender-benders will not damage your vehicle, and in a serious accident a Volvo might save your a**. Also, cheaper insurance rates. If you need space get a wagon...

BTW, I drive a Volvo wagon...third Volvo I've owned...

Volvos rock, there is something infinitely cool about having a volvo and the older the better from that standpoint (preferbaly brown also). Unfortunately my gf however does not seem to think volvos are cool :rolleyes:

I would get a mini if you can afford it (I don't really know US prices) they're great little cars and think of all that money you would save every month. Its a very different car culture in America though, no teenager would get a truck or anything near that big over here the fuel costs would just be way out of their price range, and the insurance would be insane.

cheekyspanky
Jul 8, 2004, 07:26 PM
Doesnt the larger capacity engines make the car more nose heavy, and therefore spoil the handling?

Well if its 2 or 2.3 Litres, go for a 2.0 litre, I'd be quite happy driving a 1.6 so 2.0 would be pretty good i think!

I drive this normally..its 1.3 litres and tiny compared to a truck, but it does the job!

http://www.portsmouthphotos.co.uk/theka.jpg

Koodauw
Jul 8, 2004, 07:38 PM
Seriously, I think for your first car, you should get something fun, but in expensive. Your first car will be your learner. A liscence is really your learning permit. You most likely will bump into a few things, and you wouldn't want to ruin a nice new car when you are just learning.

My first car was a Crystler Lebaron convertable. It was a ton of fun, and it cost me about 2,000. I used it for two years, had my share of dents & dings I put in it, and then said goodbye to it.

I then bought an Acura. Its a car I am proud of.

Point is, you should think about picking up a beater/ learning car to begin with.

Sabbath
Jul 8, 2004, 07:49 PM
I'd say a Focus, it's a good car and pretty good in economy terms, what size engines do you have for it over there? a 1.6 litre would do, or a 1.8

The 1.6 focus is awesome, it really revs up at the speeds you are generally driving, although its not good for overtaking on country roads, but do you get those in america? I can't imagine a focus with a 2.3 that just seems crazy and probably completely unnecessary.
The handling of the focus is great though, surely those pickups drive like dogs, you can really throw the focus around much much more fun, although you will want a "stick shift" for fun driving.

G4scott
Jul 8, 2004, 07:56 PM
If you're looking for a truck, don't pass up used Toyota's. I've got a 91 Toyota Pickup, 4x4, manual transmission, and it's a fun truck to drive. You just want to make sure you can find one with less 150k miles on it... I've pulled a Ford Ranger out of somebody's lawn with my truck, and it only has an I-4, where the Ranger had a V6... The only thing about the Toyotas is that only the 4x4 models (of the older ones, not the newer ones) look good. Most of the older (pre 96) Toyota Trucks I've seen that are 2wd are cheaper looking, lower to the ground, and all that. A good 4x4 one with a good engine will also get decent gas mileage, although the I-4, 2.4 liter engine isn't exactly the best in the world...

As far as the focus, it's a good car too. I have a Ford Escort (same engine, almost, as the focus), and it's a good car to have. I'd say go with the focus, though, and not the escort...

Good luck on finding a car, and let us know what you get.

Roger1
Jul 8, 2004, 07:58 PM
My advice: Get a used car for about 2000 dollars. I say this because with your limited driving experience, it is going to cost you a fortune for insurance. There is also a slight chance that you may end up wrecking it, being a new driver and all. My .02 :)

Dr. Zauis
Jul 8, 2004, 08:09 PM
Doesnt the larger capacity engines make the car more nose heavy, and therefore spoil the handling?
That depends on the front/rear weight ratio and how much thought the engineers put into designing it. Some sports cars have huge engines in the front but their front/rear weight ratio is usually less than 55/45

parrothead
Jul 8, 2004, 08:16 PM
Get a 2 door Nissan Pathfinder (the years for that are between 87 and 90 I think) I had one as a first car and it was awesome and rock solid. It saved my butt a few times as well. I never had any problems with it until a friend borrowed it and totaled it. :mad:

MongoTheGeek
Jul 8, 2004, 09:14 PM
Don't get one. Save the money, put it away. Wait until you are fully in the real world. In the mean time enjoy walking and biking where-ever.

I barely used my car until I was 25.

MacAztec
Jul 8, 2004, 10:20 PM
I can't Mongo. My parents are sick of getting me from football at 5, taking me to football, to the gym, to friends house, to school, etc.

Coolvirus007
Jul 8, 2004, 10:23 PM
AMG S66

Dr. Dastardly
Jul 8, 2004, 11:34 PM
When I was 16 I had about $1500 to my name to afford a car, and I thought I was doing pretty good.



Not much has changed. :p

job
Jul 8, 2004, 11:54 PM
AMG S66

It's the S65.

;)

Still a sweet car though...with over 700lb/ft.... :eek:

Sun Baked
Jul 9, 2004, 12:06 AM
I will be getting a car soon, and I have about 7500 dollars to spend. I am thinking a '02 Ford Ranger V6. They run about 7200. I think I want a truck, but a car is not ruled out yet. I want something that gets fairly decent milage too.

I also think an SVT Focus Hatchback would be sweet. I can't find one in my price range though.Nothing wrong with the Ranger, won't beat you to death with repairs like the Focus will.

The 4L is a gas hog compared to the 3L, but either will do fine. Don't know what the options were in your year.

The Ranger will do fine with few problems, and quite a few Focus owners will complain about high maint (rear brakes) and costly repairs -- but that's been par for the course for the economy Ford for years. But this is basically after warranty and comparing them to each other.

---

I can see some Focus owners about to complain, it's just the cost of FWD vs RWD tend to be more expensive -- and the rear brakes are easy to switch to harder compound on the Focus if you ended up with soft (aka wears quick) stuff.

And for some reason the parts on the Focus run more than a RWD Vic or Ranger -- don't know why.

Apple //e
Jul 9, 2004, 12:34 AM
as a much older person, i will hand you this advice:

get the baddest femm-fetchin wagon you can buy. you can only score underage when youre underage.

this is the time of yer life. plenty of time for the volvo station wagon

bousozoku
Jul 9, 2004, 12:46 AM
...

I can see some Focus owners about to complain, it's just the cost of FWD vs RWD tend to be more expensive -- and the rear brakes are easy to switch to harder compound on the Focus if you ended up with soft (aka wears quick) stuff.
...


Better replacing soft brake pads than hard, expensive rotors. ;)

Sun Baked
Jul 9, 2004, 12:55 AM
Better replacing soft brake pads than hard, expensive rotors. ;)They still haven't come out with a quality aftermarket brakes and rotors yet?

Though they would have had one by now.

Guess it's replace the rear brakes more often than some tires.

Of course the Crown Victoria will set you back $15-50 for rotors. :p

yamabushi
Jul 9, 2004, 01:10 AM
For high schoolers I highly recommend a wagon of some kind. They are great for parking with your girlfriend. :) Just don't tell your parents about your intentions. Pickups aren't nearly as good for this purpose.

iJon
Jul 9, 2004, 01:58 AM
Don't get one. Save the money, put it away. Wait until you are fully in the real world. In the mean time enjoy walking and biking where-ever.

I barely used my car until I was 25.
come on, he is in high school. he cant get chicks and take them out on dates on a bike ;)

iJon

yahooz
Jul 9, 2004, 02:11 AM
I can't Mongo. My parents are sick of getting me from football at 5, taking me to football, to the gym, to friends house, to school, etc.

damn dude... dont they have buses where you live? :eek: :rolleyes:

iJon
Jul 9, 2004, 02:16 AM
damn dude... dont they have buses where you live? :eek: :rolleyes:
i think the last thing we need is for this thread to turn into an enviromental, use buses, suv's are bad type thread. lets just give him some good ideas on cars, not buses.

iJon

yahooz
Jul 9, 2004, 02:26 AM
i think the last thing we need is for this thread to turn into an enviromental, use buses, suv's are bad type thread. lets just give him some good ideas on cars, not buses.

iJon

it wasnt meant like that at all *wants a ford explorer*...

i was just mildly bemused at the fact that he depends on his parents to transport him everywhere...surely they have buses where he lives?

as for a good first car, i have always liked the acura integras... cool cars.

iGav
Jul 9, 2004, 03:14 AM
Doesnt the larger capacity engines make the car more nose heavy, and therefore spoil the handling?

Well if its 2 or 2.3 Litres, go for a 2.0 litre, I'd be quite happy driving a 1.6 so 2.0 would be pretty good i think!


Adding 300cc doesn't really add anything onto the weight of an engine... :p it's when you start adding on extra cylinders, or welding a couple of V6's together that you end up with something silly. :eek: :p :p



I can't imagine a focus with a 2.3 that just seems crazy and probably completely unnecessary.

Remember the yanks strangle their engines because of emission laws, I very much doubt that the 2.3 is any quicker than the UK 2 litre in day to day driving.

For a fast Focus, you need the 220BHP RS.... if you can live with the Essex Boy interior that is. :eek: :p

G4scott
Jul 9, 2004, 03:49 AM
I think the problem is that this is high school, and there aren't busses that run from close to his house to the gym, and the football field, and all that...

The first bus system I actually really used was Capital Metro in Austin, and although it's a good system, it's a pain in the a$$ to have to wait for a bus because you couldn't catch the one pulling away in time...

Besides, only major metropolitan areas really have decent bus systems, and I doubt the football coach is going to pay to have all his players shuttled to practice and home, and all that great stuff...

stylum
Jul 9, 2004, 04:26 AM
Maybe this could be of interest:
http://www.miniguy.com/autos.php

a small car is always economic and fun to drive, take a look

themadchemist
Jul 9, 2004, 07:36 AM
Get one of these!

http://www.flyingmutts.com/images/Sheridan%2001/Shriners.jpg

...or if you really wanna pick up the chicks:

http://www.burnsurvivor.com/pix/photo_articles_shriners.jpg

Sun Baked
Jul 9, 2004, 07:41 AM
The RWD Ford Focus isn't a bad upgrade...

http://www.commondriver.com/images/cdpics/carsforweb/e02fofocu041901.jpg

http://www.commondriver.com/images/cdpics/carsforweb/e02fofocu041908.jpg

http://www.commondriver.com/images/cdpics/carsforweb/e02fofocu041909.jpg

MongoTheGeek
Jul 9, 2004, 07:43 AM
i think the last thing we need is for this thread to turn into an enviromental, use buses, suv's are bad type thread. lets just give him some good ideas on cars, not buses.

iJon

My original rationale for saying no is that I'm a cheap b@st@rd. :)

I know my brother lived in his car. An 10 year old malibu. Called it the Maliboat. It was riding a flying carpet though.

dvdh
Jul 9, 2004, 09:12 AM
Golf TDI.

The people I've know who own them are happy . . . drivetrains seem to last well, great fuel economy, not too bad for insurance (in Ontario compared to the GTI or (even worse) the VR6)

Edit: probably a little more than you want to spend though:

Kelly's Blue Book placed a 2000 2door TDI with a 5 speed in good condition at about $8 710 via private sale.

MacAztec
Jul 10, 2004, 02:28 PM
My brother said he found a G-Ride for me. I'm going to look into it. He said its like a '97 Cadillac with a Vinyl top and all leather interior, V8, Gold package (gold cadillac signs on rims and stuff), loaded. He said its in prime condition, and the guy wants 4500 firm. I'm going to go look into it today. That would be sick to have a Cadillac, tint the windows, etc.

poopyhead
Jul 10, 2004, 02:43 PM
by far
get a mid eighties alfa spider veloce
they are cheep
not too fast but fun
economical with the gas
and not really that expensive to repair

I had one that was a beater when I was 19 (only 5 years ago)
bought it for 5000 then
and the insurence was reasonable
easily the best and most fun car I have ever had

if you are not into the alfa get a miata (what I have now)
still fun but not as much and not as distinctive

just remember
it takes a big man to drive a little car

digii3
Jul 10, 2004, 02:46 PM
If you are willing, go get a summer job or learn negotiation very very well. then buy a Subaru Impreza non-turbo. Brand new. I have 98 Forester and will trade it in for a 06 forester when it comes out. (the Sti hopefully)...

http://www.digii.com