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dudup
Sep 17, 2009, 11:00 AM
I would like to just express my sincere disappointment with the fact that a Coolbook license will only work with a single Mac.

I've had a Rev. A MBA in which I've used Coolbook before, and now that I've sold it (and the current owner don't want to use Coolbook), I can't use it with my new Rev. C MBA.

Like a said in an email to Mr. Magnus Lundholm, the Coolbook developer, I would totally understand if he just asked to me to activate it again under a new machine. It would be a dumb limitation like those Windows activations Microsoft impose to their users, but I would be ok with that.

But that's ok, the fault is mine. I didn't read the fine print under a .rtf file included inside a dmg file. I didn't notice the footnote on top of the buy now button stating that I should search for that license term. I should be penalized as a consumer who really want to pay to use the software.

I know, I know, 10 usd is not that big deal, but it's not about the amount of money.

No wonder Apple doesn't support this software. This is really stupid.



ayeying
Sep 17, 2009, 11:58 AM
Why do you think all Apple Software can be used on multiple systems? It doesn't.

Coolbook is a single mac license. You're right, it is your fault. No need to get mad at the developer because of that.

crackpip
Sep 17, 2009, 01:09 PM
Coolbook is a single mac license. You're right, it is your fault. No need to get mad at the developer because of that.

It was his mistake for not reading the terms of the license, but at the same time it appears the developer does not allow you to move the license from one machine to another.

There are not many developers that don't allow you to delete a program off of one computer and put it on a new one. Certainly Apple doesn't. I would never purchase a program that restrictive.

crackpip

Dagless
Sep 17, 2009, 01:43 PM
So it's tied to both just you and that specific computer? That's not on.
I'm very anti-piracy but stuff like that is just ridiculous.

AppleMatt
Sep 17, 2009, 01:59 PM
That does sound very onerous. Can you post the term and the picture?

When you emailed him did you say that you'd made an honest mistake and would he consider helping in this instance, or did you say that it's a stupid requirement and you're disappointed?

AppleMatt

mashoutposse
Sep 17, 2009, 02:03 PM
Why do you think all Apple Software can be used on multiple systems? It doesn't.

Coolbook is a single mac license. You're right, it is your fault. No need to get mad at the developer because of that.

The OP shouldn't have to buy another copy of software that he's already bought if he's truly using it on one computer at a time.

Restrictive terms like this decrease customer goodwill and increase the likelyhood of piracy. Once you as a developer make it more of a hassle to deal with you legitimately than to simply steal your work, you're #%@&ed.

ayeying
Sep 17, 2009, 03:41 PM
OP didn;t say if he unregistered the Rev A before selling it. Therefore, for Coolbook's servers, it is still registered to that Rev A's system.

We all have seen this type of stuff on many other items. Games for Windows, iTunes Downloads, etc.

This is nothing new.

And for the OP to say "this is the reason Apple doesn't support it". Not true.

crackpip
Sep 17, 2009, 05:41 PM
OP didn;t say if he unregistered the Rev A before selling it. Therefore, for Coolbook's servers, it is still registered to that Rev A's system.

He didn't, but it is implied by the sentence:

I've had a Rev. A MBA in which I've used Coolbook before, and now that I've sold it (and the current owner don't want to use Coolbook), I can't use it with my new Rev. C MBA.


A little awkward in terms of sentence structure but the implication that he wanted to unregister it is there.

A little digging turned up this (from the Manual of the program)

1, This license will work with one unique computer only. The customer is allowed to reset the license once. This in the event of broken and repaired computer.
It is not possible to transfer the license to a new computer.


I think this is a poor EULA, and I wouldn't support developers that use it.

crackpip

MacModMachine
Sep 17, 2009, 06:03 PM
He didn't, but it is implied by the sentence:


A little awkward in terms of sentence structure but the implication that he wanted to unregister it is there.

A little digging turned up this (from the Manual of the program)


I think this is a poor EULA, and I wouldn't support developers that use it.

crackpip

i completely agree, i know a guy on the net was making a freeware version of it...i just do not remember what the sourceforge project was called.

thats limiting and a money making scheme if you ask me.

there deliberately not telling you the information until you buy the product or download the demo and sift through the manual.

regardless...the creator could make it more difficult to activate the thrid time by going through steps like microsoft does...to reactivate the program (such as microsoft does by calling them).

since he does not...and says sorry you have to pay me again.

i do not support coolbook at all.

dudup
Sep 17, 2009, 07:25 PM
OP didn;t say if he unregistered the Rev A before selling it. Therefore, for Coolbook's servers, it is still registered to that Rev A's system.

We all have seen this type of stuff on many other items. Games for Windows, iTunes Downloads, etc.

This is nothing new.

Sorry, but you're totally wrong on this. You don't have to buy all your music/videos/apps again because you moved to a new computer.

You don't have to buy all your apps again when you move to a new iPhone.

I can remember the heavy criticism EA received because of a very limited number of activations on Spore.

And Coolbook doesn't have a "remove license" option. The license is attached to the machine. You lose the machine, you lose the right to use the software again.


And for the OP to say "this is the reason Apple doesn't support it". Not true.

I haven't said that.

dudup
Sep 17, 2009, 07:38 PM
A little awkward in terms of sentence structure but the implication that he wanted to unregister it is there.

Yeah, sorry for that, my english can get confusing some times :)

I would love to unregister the machine, if there was an option to do that. But there isn't.

So again, I don't care. I won't use it anymore. But I think it's worth it to tell my experience so others can think about it.

Really a shame.

SUPERSTEVE9219
Sep 18, 2009, 03:07 AM
Have you tried just contacting the developer? I've never had any problems when I contacted a developer of a small app like this asking for help when I lost my key, or needed to re download/activate a program, and I have done it 5-6 times.

ayeying
Sep 19, 2009, 04:11 PM
Sorry, but you're totally wrong on this. You don't have to buy all your music/videos/apps again because you moved to a new computer.

You don't have to buy all your apps again when you move to a new iPhone.

I can remember the heavy criticism EA received because of a very limited number of activations on Spore.

And Coolbook doesn't have a "remove license" option. The license is attached to the machine. You lose the machine, you lose the right to use the software again.

I haven't said that.

Actually you did say that in your first post:

No wonder Apple doesn't support this software. This is really stupid.

Secondly, my iTunes downloads, if they're not backed up, I cannot redownload them without paying. If I forget to unauthorize my system before moving to a new system, iTunes won't let me deauthorize all (if i'm full) for a year. I see limitations everywhere, may not apply to one specific system like coolbook does but there are limitations.

I remember when I moved from my last rev A to my current rev C, I used the "Uninstall Coolbook" and I was able to transfer my license to the second machine.

Ljohnson72
Sep 19, 2009, 09:31 PM
Any company that won't let you transfer over your license to another computer is simply idiotic.

dudup
Sep 20, 2009, 01:48 AM
Actually you did say that in your first post (...)

Wrong. You quoted me like I said this was *the* reason Apple doesn't support it. I haven't said that...

The comparisons you're doing regarding iTunes are totally non sense, but I don't see the point of this discussion. Sorry. Good for you that you like Coolbook's terms. I don't, so I won't be using it anymore. But actually if you are using the same license with a different Mac, you're illegal. ;)

dudup
Sep 20, 2009, 02:02 AM
Have you tried just contacting the developer? I've never had any problems when I contacted a developer of a small app like this asking for help when I lost my key, or needed to re download/activate a program, and I have done it 5-6 times.

I did, it was my first reaction -- I thought it could an issue regarding SL or something like that. The reply was:


Hi Dudu!

The license is for your previous Air, and you can't transfer it to the new one.

Sincerely,

Magnus Lundholm

AIRniloc
Sep 20, 2009, 02:46 AM
well, magnus has always been both pleasant and quick to respond when I've sent him emails...

Although I don't like that you have to pay $10 per computer (I have paid for it twice), I just can't go without coolbook on my laptops anymore..

If I bought a new laptop tomorrow, i'd be tossing down another $10 as well..


I do find it odd that this many people have chimed in over how 'ridiculous' it is to charge someone $10 per machine...it is most likely the easiest way for magnus to track all of his customers' machines (as he does ALL of the support, if i understand correctly)..

i dunno...

its $10, get over it....

weckart
Sep 20, 2009, 05:07 AM
i dunno...

its $10, get over it....

If only it were $10. It's $10 when you reinstall it because something buggered up your existing install. It's another $10 when you upgrade your hard drive. Another $10 when you install Snow Leopard and prefer to do a clean install etc. That $10 soon mounts up, particularly if you have more than one machine.

netddos
Sep 20, 2009, 07:32 AM
You are NOT alone....

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=770164

dudup
Sep 20, 2009, 03:09 PM
I do find it odd that this many people have chimed in over how 'ridiculous' it is to charge someone $10 per machine...it is most likely the easiest way for magnus to track all of his customers' machines (as he does ALL of the support, if i understand correctly)..

i dunno...

its $10, get over it....

I would pay $20, $30, even $50 to have the ability to have it installed one computer at time. I wouldn't have any problem with activations or other necessary crap to get it running and prove that I'm a legit user.

See, I don't run any pirated software on my Macs. Any. I love how Panic Coda and Transmit, or AppZapper simply don't ask for anything once I sync my Mobile Me settings on a new machine. Coda is a $ 80 app which is pirated like hell, but Panic knows that legit users shouldn't be punished.

I'm using probably my 8th Apple computer in 4 years, and never I've had to be worried with the thought of buying a new license of a software that I already own because I'm going to switch to a new Mac.

Call me cheap, call me stupid, I don't care. I won't use it anymore. This topic is just a warning for people whom may trust the developer and buying this app without reading the fine print.

Seems to me there are a few people who are surprised by this licensing model as I did, so I think this is useful advice.

I really don't want to discuss it anymore. I don't want a refund, I don't want it to change its licensing model, I don't care. It's just a rant, if you excuse me. :)

(pardon my english, as it's not my primary idiom. )

AIRniloc
Sep 21, 2009, 02:58 AM
If only it were $10. It's $10 when you reinstall it because something buggered up your existing install. It's another $10 when you upgrade your hard drive. Another $10 when you install Snow Leopard and prefer to do a clean install etc. That $10 soon mounts up, particularly if you have more than one machine.


well most of that is untrue..



i just upgraded to SL and didn't have to pay another $10 at all...just un-installed, re-installed and put my license code back in..

also, about 9 months ago i upgraded to an SSD on my rev a MBAir and didn't have to pay another $10 (time machine backup)..

as far as screwing up an install, well...never had that problem

psingh01
Sep 23, 2009, 11:07 AM
I agree it's a poor license and I wouldn't support software like that. Having a license for one running copy of the software at a time is reasonable. When you change hardware just remove it from the old computer and move it to the new one.

jaw04005
Sep 23, 2009, 11:27 AM
Secondly, my iTunes downloads, if they're not backed up, I cannot redownload them without paying. If I forget to unauthorize my system before moving to a new system, iTunes won't let me deauthorize all (if i'm full) for a year. I see limitations everywhere, may not apply to one specific system like coolbook does but there are limitations.

Not that it really matters regarding this thread, but Apple allows you to re-download your purchases once per year and they'll also reset your 5 computer activations multiple times per year as part of official policy.

Both options require a manual request using Apple's iTunes customer support page.

cheapa55
Sep 24, 2009, 01:41 AM
wow, I was thinking about buying coolbook but after reading this, I will pass. I will also not support any companies or developers that make the program license so restrictive.

Zorn
Sep 24, 2009, 02:07 AM
wow, I was thinking about buying coolbook but after reading this, I will pass. I will also not support any companies or developers that make the program license so restrictive.

I agree fully, hopefully the developer of the program finds his way to this thread and ends this stupid practice. It will only lead to people pirating the product on new machines in frustration - I would not buy something again that I already own just to use it on one machine at a time.

CountBrass
Sep 28, 2009, 05:24 AM
Wrong. You quoted me like I said this was *the* reason Apple doesn't support it. I haven't said that...

The comparisons you're doing regarding iTunes are totally non sense, but I don't see the point of this discussion. Sorry. Good for you that you like Coolbook's terms. I don't, so I won't be using it anymore. But actually if you are using the same license with a different Mac, you're illegal. ;)

Just ignore him Dudup, Ayeying is just a troll. He got it wrong in his first post in this thread and seems desperate either to simply gather more attention or to avoid having to apologise for his mistake, which any decent person would have done.

Lounge Deluxe
Sep 28, 2009, 02:56 PM
I'm a little confused after reading this thread, is there a limitation on the number of activations for one CB license? Or are you guys just upset about the CB license being inextricably bound up with a certain computer and can't be transferred to another computer?

SeaneyC
Sep 28, 2009, 06:45 PM
Whilst I agree the license is restrictive, I think it's one of those things you have to live with, and at least you can install and uninstall it as much as you want on that one machine. If you have had problems, contact the support. I've done multiple rebuilds of my Air on Leopard, and a couple under Snow Leopard, and have had no problems at all activating the program.

Given that's it's less than 1% of the cost of your new purchase that you're putting it on, I think we just have to grin and bear it for now. As a rev A owner, it's an essential purchase, and it's not like there's anything out there that's a viable alternative.

Irritating? Yes. Worth getting worked up about? Not in my opinion. It's a very niche program, not an office suite or OS.

Scottsdale
Mar 6, 2010, 06:37 PM
Hey guys,

Like the OP and many other I was very annoyed with the unfair licensing practiced by the authors of Coolbook. I bought the app some time ago and was disgusted to learn that I can't transfer the license or even activate it more than twice on the same machine.

Luckily I found a way to bypass the activation, I won't post it here as I'm sure the owners of this forum wouldn't be too impressed but if anyone wants to know how I did it please PM me. I will only share the method with people who can prove they originally bought a Coolbook license.

Negev

ARE YOU SERIOUS? IT IS $10! SOME PEOPLE HAVE HIGH EXPECTATIONS!

If it were free, I am sure there would still be high expectations. Maybe someone should write some competing code and sell it for $49... then let people switch it to a different computer? Honestly, seems like it would keep its customers happier by charging more up front and letting them install it on multiple MBAs. How many MBAs could someone have anyways.

I believe this effectively shows how one software company isn't charging enough money for its software's value. CoolBook is extremely valuable because it can take a $3099 computer that didn't work, let person buy "dumped" MBA for $1299. Add a $49 product to "fix" the worst problems from the original MBA. Save $1800, sell the "fix" for $49, let people swap the license for free... make everyone happy! Even on the low-end original MBA, save $800 on the "dumped" MBA, add $49 software, net proceeds is $751!

This just shows that everyone complains more and has higher expectations when a company doesn't charge enough money for software. I still believe CoolBook is amazing software and would be an incredible value at $49, and is dirt cheap and nobody should complain at $10!

Beric
Mar 6, 2010, 09:28 PM
I would be happy to give the guy another $10 for his hard work. But I would prefer he had simply charged $20 and given unlimited transfers.

nigameash
Mar 7, 2010, 02:25 PM
thanks alot :)

negev
Mar 16, 2010, 03:59 AM
Hey guys,

As it turns out, I and several other posters on this thread were completely wrong about the Coolbook license. Magnus, the developer of coolbook, has been in touch and pointed out that I misinterpreted the text of the manual that states that you can only reset the license once. This doesn't mean that you have to pay to reactivate it on the same machine. As you can imagine, Magnus was rightly very upset about this.

Admittedly the wording in the manual is slightly confusing, and coupled with the forum threads I found here with people seemingly upset about the same thing, led me to believe that my interpretation of it was correct, but with hindsight I really should have contacted Magnus about this in the first place, so Magnus once again I am very sorry.

If you like Coolbook please buy a license, it's a really useful program and $10 is nothing for what it does, really. Magnus could easily sell it for a lot more than $10. We were wrong about the license, so everyone who uses it should be fair to him and purchase a license if they haven't already.

Negev

Mal
Mar 16, 2010, 12:52 PM
Whilst I agree the license is restrictive, I think it's one of those things you have to live with, and at least you can install and uninstall it as much as you want on that one machine. If you have had problems, contact the support. I've done multiple rebuilds of my Air on Leopard, and a couple under Snow Leopard, and have had no problems at all activating the program.

Given that's it's less than 1% of the cost of your new purchase that you're putting it on, I think we just have to grin and bear it for now. As a rev A owner, it's an essential purchase, and it's not like there's anything out there that's a viable alternative.

Irritating? Yes. Worth getting worked up about? Not in my opinion. It's a very niche program, not an office suite or OS.

Sorry, but no, no one just has to live with it. It's called refusing to purchase something you disagree with. I think it's important that developers know when consumers don't like the terms they offer, and that at least some consumers won't purchase the product until those terms are changed.

I wouldn't purchase any program that is tied to a single machine. As I recall, that was one (of many) problems that led to a lot of complaining about Rebel EFI as well, software I'm sure this "Magnus" won't want associated with his software.

jW

mpsruo
Mar 16, 2010, 02:27 PM
I'm not sure if Coolbook has an extra feature that this other program does not, but SMC Fan control is free and does....well....fan control.

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/23049/smcfancontrol

If this doesn't work for you, please don't whine here about it. Instead of lecturing the OP about his practices, please post something constructive. I'm simply helping POTENTIAL coolbook buyers that there is a free alternative.

Regardless of who misread what, the policy is poorly done. Take OmniFocus. My license is for one user at a time. If my 2 computers run it at once, 1 must shut down. I can, however, install it on 1000 computers if I wanted.

I'm not saying coolbook should have this license structure, but 1-license-per-user is fair. Even if you had to call in and reassociate the registration to another computer, this should be done free of charge. I cannot see ANY logical arguments against this (still forces you to buy 1 license per machine you have, which is the coolbook's goal). The only reasoning is to pretty much screw over your customers and force them to rebuy it.

You go and buy a new wireless mouse. You can only use this mouse on 1 computer at a time. You sell your old computer, get a new one, and try and plug in the mouse into that new one. Ooooooh, sorry guy, this mouse is registered with another mac permanently. It's ok though, you can just go to a store and buy a new mouse. No big deal! Your fault for misreading the terms of service. :confused:

nobackup
Mar 16, 2010, 03:48 PM
I'm not sure if Coolbook has an extra feature that this other program does not, but SMC Fan control is free and does....well....fan control.

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/23049/smcfancontrol

If this doesn't work for you, please don't whine here about it. Instead of lecturing the OP about his practices, please post something constructive. I'm simply helping POTENTIAL coolbook buyers that there is a free alternative.

Regardless of who misread what, the policy is poorly done. Take OmniFocus. My license is for one user at a time. If my 2 computers run it at once, 1 must shut down. I can, however, install it on 1000 computers if I wanted.

I'm not saying coolbook should have this license structure, but 1-license-per-user is fair. Even if you had to call in and reassociate the registration to another computer, this should be done free of charge. I cannot see ANY logical arguments against this (still forces you to buy 1 license per machine you have, which is the coolbook's goal). The only reasoning is to pretty much screw over your customers and force them to rebuy it.

You go and buy a new wireless mouse. You can only use this mouse on 1 computer at a time. You sell your old computer, get a new one, and try and plug in the mouse into that new one. Ooooooh, sorry guy, this mouse is registered with another mac permanently. It's ok though, you can just go to a store and buy a new mouse. No big deal! Your fault for misreading the terms of service. :confused:


Guys live with it, its in the terms you accepted, the developer does actually do what he said he would do... I had my MBA replaced and 1 email to him and a couple of hours later it was reset... :cool:

All the comparisons to what other "Developers" do is pointless :rolleyes:

Should we all complain that after buying a VW Golf that it does not let you do what a Porsche 911 allows...

as always RTFM or in this case RTFULA..

and I am really pissed of that I can't run my OS X on a machine not from apple ... I don't care that the OS came free with MacBook... I demand the right to run it on what ever I want.. Just like Microsoft does... they allow me to run it on my machine.... see what I mean... :D

halledise
Mar 16, 2010, 04:02 PM
what's so fantastic about CoolBook any way … … i.e. why bother buying it in the first place :confused:

atticus18244fsa
Mar 16, 2010, 07:53 PM
Companies who are receiving purchases from customers should be happy in the first place in this day and age. If they want to play around, just acquire their software through different means.

jdechko
Mar 17, 2010, 12:38 PM
Should we all complain that after buying a VW Golf that it does not let you do what a Porsche 911 allows...

This analogy is flawed. It's more like you buy a nice stereo for your Golf, and when you upgrade to the 911 you find out that you're not allowed to take the stereo out of the Golf and install it in your 911.


as always RTFM or in this case RTFULA..

Yes, ultimately the responsibility falls with the user. However, in this case the EULA is vastly different than the majority of other software. Most programs and games (even with the crap DRM included) will allow you to uninstall the program from a current machine and transfer it to a new machine without developer intervention. Microsoft even gets this right with Office and, for the most part, Windows. Some companies (Adobe CS, if not now, then at one point) even allow software to be installed on 2 machines, provided that they are not used simultaneously.

So on one hand, you have users who have accepted a "contract" without reading it, and on the other you have a developer that changes the commonly accepted rules of software licensing, probably knowing that the user didn't read the agreement before installing it.

spaceballl
Mar 17, 2010, 01:33 PM
For $10, i think it's fair that the developer makes you get a new one with each mac... that's really not harsh...

nobackup
Mar 18, 2010, 12:44 AM
This analogy is flawed. It's more like you buy a nice stereo for your Golf, and when you upgrade to the 911 you find out that you're not allowed to take the stereo out of the Golf and install it in your 911.

not really flawed... I was trying to make a different point..

Many replies were saying ... This product should perform like that product.. when I bought that product it allowed me to do this... CB should and must do the same :)

BTW long gone are the days when you BUY a stereo for either a Golf or a 911 as they come fitted and aftermarket ones don't really blend in well, most shops just upgrade the amps and loudspeakers




Yes, ultimately the responsibility falls with the user. However, in this case the EULA is vastly different than the majority of other software. Most programs and games (even with the crap DRM included) will allow you to uninstall the program from a current machine and transfer it to a new machine without developer intervention. Microsoft even gets this right with Office and, for the most part, Windows. Some companies (Adobe CS, if not now, then at one point) even allow software to be installed on 2 machines, provided that they are not used simultaneously.

So on one hand, you have users who have accepted a "contract" without reading it, and on the other you have a developer that changes the commonly accepted rules of software licensing, probably knowing that the user didn't read the agreement before installing it.



You have summed up some good points here :)

To all others

I dont really see the point that people are trying to make here, its in the docs read them, and move on...

Most of the people here in this thread have never bought the product, and just either want to vent or just like the sound...

There is no rule stating what a developer HAS to do, its up to them, that's why they include terms, live with it or move on..

in this case its just a MDRM (Marcus Digital Rights Management) implementation...

iigsie
Mar 18, 2010, 11:28 AM
A shameful money making exercise from this developer knowing that most people upgrade their laptops every few years.

Maybe it will earn him some cash from fools who keep buying a licence.

On the other hand it will mean he doesn't get my money.

Maybe it's only €10, but it's the principle. I'd be quite happy using the cracked version. Let them try to sue, this violates EU laws anyway.

Mungas
Mar 18, 2010, 03:43 PM
A shameful money making exercise from this developer knowing that most people upgrade their laptops every few years.

Maybe it will earn him some cash from fools who keep buying a licence.

On the other hand it will mean he doesn't get my money.

Maybe it's only €10, but it's the principle. I'd be quite happy using the cracked version. Let them try to sue, this violates EU laws anyway.

Can you please tell me more about the EU laws you are referring to?

Do you know that all updates to CoolBook have been free? Supporting OS X 10.4 to 10.6 (32 and 64 bit). Many users are still using the same computer today, as they were when v 1.0 was released (myself included). The theory was that if you can afford a new Mac, you can also afford a new license.
The customers owning the same computer for years can use CoolBook without having to buy updates every year when a new OS is released.
But this theory was not valid, because the richer people are the cheaper they get.
Another technical problem solved with the current license model, is the fact that new computer models often need a rewritten driver. That would mean that free transfers would only be possible to computers the same age or older than your current one. But this can be solved by offering upgrades for a small fee.


I'm planning to change the license terms to be more mainstream:

- The price will be $19.99.
- Added possibility to transfer the license
(to computers the same age, or older).
- Support will be limited to six month.
- Updates will be offered for $6.99 (needed for new models and OSes).

I would like to get your input on this. Is this license better?

iSee
Mar 18, 2010, 05:34 PM
It's fair for the OP to be disappointed: the license terms are illogical and unusual.

(Illogical because there's no particular reason this software should be tied to a particular piece of hardware.)

It's a dumb license because the publisher is unnecessarily annoying their good, paying customers. I can guarantee you that is never a good long-term business strategy.

Mungas
Mar 18, 2010, 06:18 PM
...
(Illogical because there's no particular reason this software should be tied to a particular piece of hardware.)
...


Hehe. Good one :)
Google for "CoolBook serial".

/Magnus

jdechko
Mar 18, 2010, 06:57 PM
First of all, thanks for reading the boards and contributing. It's great to be able to have a dialog with the developer of programs the community uses.

The theory was that if you can afford a new Mac, you can also afford a new license.
The customers owning the same computer for years can use CoolBook without having to buy updates every year when a new OS is released.


Speaking as an outsider (I don't use/have your software), I think that this is an unfair term to your license. That's like saying that you should have to buy Microsoft office again, because you upgraded your computer. As I mentioned in my previous post, the majority of software developers (not just the big ones) allow you to freely move your license between computers.


Another technical problem solved with the current license model, is the fact that new computer models often need a rewritten driver. That would mean that free transfers would only be possible to computers the same age or older than your current one. But this can be solved by offering upgrades for a small fee.?

If this truly is a technical problem that you encounter, and not some artificial limitation you place on yourself, then I would say that this is fair to users. However, I would make it a new version, rather than an update. So, at the time of my writing, your current version is 2.16, and I'd assume that it works with 10.6. If, in 10.7, you find that your code does not work and requires driver re-writes, then version that one as 3.0. (You may already do this, I don't know, I don't follow your product that much).

Alternatively, if Coolbook 3.0 comes out with some awesome features, let people upgrade,


I'm planning to change the license terms to be more mainstream:

- The price will be $19.99.
- Added possibility to transfer the license
(to computers the same age, or older).
- Support will be limited to six month.
- Updates will be offered for $6.99 (needed for new models and OSes).

I would like to get your input on this. Is this license better?

I'd say that it's an improvement. If your product is worth the money, we'd all be happy to buy it. Even still, coolbook is highly recommended on MR.

I'd make a minor change to the part about the transfer: Still make it so that we can run it on only one computer, but maybe you'd consider allowing it to run on the currently shipping operating system (or older). For instance, if I had a Rev C air with SL and coolbook 2, and I buy a new rev D Air with SL, let me still use my license on that new computer. However, if 10.7 comes out, and you update coolbook to version 3 because of incompatibilities, then I should need to buy an update.

Maybe you can consider doing a family pack as well. Many members here have more than 1 computer and might like to use it on all of them.

I know that for someone who's not actually a customer of yours, I've said a lot, and I still have more to say. If you want me to go on, I'd be more than happy to elaborate or continue, but I just wanted you to what I, and probably others, "expect" when we deal with software licensing.

halledise
Mar 18, 2010, 11:32 PM
to repeat my genuine question -


what's so fantastic about CoolBook any way … … i.e. why bother buying it in the first place :confused:

or to put it another way, WTF does Coolbook actually do, how does it do it and why should I want it?

Mungas
Mar 19, 2010, 05:22 AM
...
or to put it another way, WTF does Coolbook actually do, how does it do it and why should I want it?


http://www.macworld.com/article/134682/2008/07/mwvodcast60.html

halledise
Mar 19, 2010, 09:02 AM
http://www.macworld.com/article/134682/2008/07/mwvodcast60.html

I dont get it. my MBA runs as you'd expect it to.

when running multiple apps, the fans eventually kick in - as they did even on my former MBPro 13"

close a couple of apps and you can barely notice the fans/heat

'Coolbook' to control Mac OSX.6 on an Air - phhhhttt - why bother?

then again - maybe I own the only MBAir that Apple got right! :D

08r-dc
Feb 5, 2012, 05:44 AM
Hello everyone,
I found this thread because I've reinstalled CB on the same machine registered when I bought the program but I have problem when the program connect to the Internet trying to verify the registrations credential.
Anyone who bought the program knows that there is no serial number and the registration is somehow linked with the serial number of the machine (so I suppose that there is a server that check for the reg ids).

The problem for me is that I can't find the license agreement that I accepted when I bought the program.
I don't care if I had to buy the program for every machine that I own but I'm very disappointed that the program doesn't prompt asking me "I'm connecting to a server sending the machine SN to verify the registration", and the author don't have a license agreement contract in his website or in the dmg package.
I'd like to know when someone use my personal information and how he uses (for what I know CoolBook could send any information to the developer server without my permission) and probably the developer have to change the registration method from check the correspondence between email-macSerialNumber with a more fair email-programSerialNumber

I'm sorry for my English, I write from Italy and I learned it by myself...sorry

barkmonster
Feb 5, 2012, 06:13 AM
I agree with the original poster, this is unreasonable.

I remember a while ago there was some software (I can't remember what) that would be so picky about what system you run it on, it did a run-down of the specs of the Mac it was originally installed on and just upgrading your hard drive or adding some RAM was enough for it to stop working because it thought it was a different Mac.

I know it's piracy that causes developers to employ copy protection and heavy handed tactics like this but all it does is encourage people to find ways round the registration process or buy someone else's software.