What happened?

[Tower-Union]

I used to fold with Macrumors a few years ago, as I remember it we had a pretty powerful team, seems now things are waning, and this board has cooled off. I suppose I'm guilty of leaving as well (jumped ship for Penny Arcade, great comic BTW), am I just glossing over old memories or have things actually slowed down?

[twoodcc]

I used to fold with Macrumors a few years ago, as I remember it we had a pretty powerful team, seems now things are waning, and this board has cooled off. I suppose I'm guilty of leaving as well (jumped ship for Penny Arcade, great comic BTW), am I just glossing over old memories or have things actually slowed down?

well, i really can't say since i haven't been folding for that long. but i have noticed a lot of teams pass us while i've been on the team.

i really think the ones that do still fold need to try and get more involved on this forum to get more people to join and stuff.

[SciFrog]

We should try to pump up the team with these new bigadv units.
This team slowed down huge when the GPU client came out, which is Windows only.

[twoodcc]

We should try to pump up the team with these new bigadv units.
This team slowed down huge when the GPU client came out, which is Windows only.

we do need to pump up the team, and get more involved on this forum.

yes the GPU client is windows only, but i've heard that you can run a GPU client in linux. and i don't mean in wine either. but i've heard it's very tricky to get working

[mc68k]

anyone with a newer mac pro or xserve can kill in the stats. should be a nice incentive. i am excited about mac folding for the first time in a while

[twoodcc]

anyone with a newer mac pro or xserve can kill in the stats. should be a nice incentive. i am excited about mac folding for the first time in a while

i wonder how the octo 2.26 does

[SciFrog]

A good guess is 41 min per frame, 18k PPD, about the same as the old 2007 3Ghz...

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=11314&start=0

has all sort of speed tests.

[Tower-Union]

18k PPD is pretty impressive. . . . if you run it in windows you could use the vid card too, probably pull close to 25k. I would love to see Pande Group put out a GPU client for mac OS X.... I'm getting sick of running windows 90% of the time on my Mac Pro.

[SciFrog]

With these new big units no more need for GPU...

What would be nice is to run OS X and the big units, the GPU with WINE with a couple of fast Nvidia cards...

We just need one of the smart guys here to do a step by step for us...

[twoodcc]

A good guess is 41 min per frame, 18k PPD, about the same as the old 2007 3Ghz...

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=11314&start=0

has all sort of speed tests.

see that's not all that impressive to me. you would think 8 real cores, or 16 cores with HT, would beat 4 real cores or 8 with HT. i mean i could buy 3 machines like my i7 for the same price as an octo mac pro 2.26. i'd rather have the mac pro, but i just can't justify it right now. maybe when the i9 comes out

18k PPD is pretty impressive. . . . if you run it in windows you could use the vid card too, probably pull close to 25k. I would love to see Pande Group put out a GPU client for mac OS X.... I'm getting sick of running windows 90% of the time on my Mac Pro.

yeah but you can't run the bigadv units in windows, and i can't get them to run in a VM either.

With these new big units no more need for GPU...

What would be nice is to run OS X and the big units, the GPU with WINE with a couple of fast Nvidia cards...

We just need one of the smart guys here to do a step by step for us...

yeah we do. i'm not one of those smart guys, and i'm too lazy to try and look up how to get GPU working in linux. i know you can do it though

[SciFrog]

http://foldingforum.org/viewforum.php?f=54

Everything we need is there. Just way over my head.

[twoodcc]

http://foldingforum.org/viewforum.php?f=54

Everything we need is there. Just way over my head.

i see a lot of thread titles with the word "problem" in there

[Tower-Union]

Disregard, did a little googling :p

[twoodcc]

well team macrumors.com has been passed again by another team. we are now ranked #58 for folding teams

[iShater]

I'll bring my systems back online 24/7. I kinda got tires of the locked up core on my macs so I fold only on my pc laptop during the day.

[twoodcc]

I'll bring my systems back online 24/7. I kinda got tires of the locked up core on my macs so I fold only on my pc laptop during the day.

just do what you can

[trainguy77]

I recently rejoined. I haven't folded for a very long time but my mac pro is folding again during the days. We need to get this team going again. :D

[twoodcc]

I recently rejoined. I haven't folded for a very long time but my mac pro is folding again during the days. We need to get this team going again. :D

sounds good! and yes we do!

[meeble]

well, i am going back online after a long hiatus.

let's see what kind of numbers I can pull. :P

meeble

[mc68k]

wow meeble and trainguy! long time no see guys

welcome back

[trainguy77]

wow meeble and trainguy! long time no see guys

welcome back

Thanks. I am back into the top 20 producers. But I thought I was higher up the list when I used to fold. Mind you this Mac Pro isn't getting any faster.... :rolleyes:

I am under macman64 for those of you who were checking. :)

[mc68k]

^ have you tried the bigadv units with your macpro?

[trainguy77]

^ have you tried the bigadv units with your macpro?

No its only a 4 core is it worth it still? I also turn it off at night. So it takes a break 7 hours a day.

[mc68k]

yeah not worth it. on a 8 core 3GHz each step takes ~45 mins

45*100=4500
/60=75
/24=3.13 days

preferred is 4 days and a final deadline of 6. even if u ran a 4 core 24/7 i don't think it would complete it

[trainguy77]

Maybe I will get my brother going under my username though. He has a 8 core.....

[twoodcc]

well, i am going back online after a long hiatus.

let's see what kind of numbers I can pull. :P

meeble

glad to have you back! we need ya!

Maybe I will get my brother going under my username though. He has a 8 core.....

sounds like a plan!

[zelmo]

My MBP has been having some strange issues lately, so I've pulled the plug on Folding to see if that helps stabilize the system. That'll drop me out of the top 10 pretty quickly, what with all there crazy numbers some of you guys are posting. Ought to drop my PPD to about 1,400 or so.

(Folding as powermac666, ranked #9 on Team 3446)

[twoodcc]

My MBP has been having some strange issues lately, so I've pulled the plug on Folding to see if that helps stabilize the system. That'll drop me out of the top 10 pretty quickly, what with all there crazy numbers some of you guys are posting. Ought to drop my PPD to about 1,400 or so.

(Folding as powermac666, ranked #9 on Team 3446)

i don't blame you there. i've had to do the same on some of my systems as well

[trainguy77]

I am liking this upward trend we have going right now. We need to keep that up. We need major releases of folding clients to be posted on atleast page 2 if not page one to get some interest.

[twoodcc]

I am liking this upward trend we have going right now. We need to keep that up. We need major releases of folding clients to be posted on atleast page 2 if not page one to get some interest.

yeah i am as well, though it looks like we will get passed pretty soon though.

yes that would spark a lot of interest. but i doubt it will happen

[twoodcc]

well we just got passed again. we are now ranked #59 as a team. and there are plenty more teams on our heels

[iShater]

I'll bring my systems back online 24/7. I kinda got tires of the locked up core on my macs so I fold only on my pc laptop during the day.

just do what you can

I tried last weekend to get started again on my MBP. I use the InCrease client, and that thing just sat there, refused to clear out old stuff and get a new unit. I am having difficulty even reinstalling it and having it start from scratch.

What do you guys use?

[SciFrog]

Console client, no third party items...

[trainguy77]

well we just got passed again. we are now ranked #59 as a team. and there are plenty more teams on our heels

Yeah. Atleast we are gaining on 4 teams as well.

[twoodcc]

Yeah. Atleast we are gaining on 4 teams as well.

that's true. and our numbers are going up. we just gotta keep at it

[SciFrog]

To become a relevant team, we need to reach 250k units per day, almost double the current rate. We need 70 more iMacs/MacBooks or 5 8-core systems.

[twoodcc]

To become a relevant team, we need to reach 250k units per day, almost double the current rate. We need 70 more iMacs/MacBooks or 5 8-core systems.

well i doubt that will happen over night. we just gotta try and get better one step at a time

[trainguy77]

We moved up a rank today some how. :eek: As well the number of active users is increasing. I kind of think us talking about it here seems to be helping! I might just set my signature back to something about folding tomorrow at some point.

[twoodcc]

We moved up a rank today some how. :eek: As well the number of active users is increasing. I kind of think us talking about it here seems to be helping! I might just set my signature back to something about folding tomorrow at some point.

it looks to me that we are still ranked 59. and the next group is about to pass us!

but yes, talking about it more here helps out quite a bit. the more we interact here, the better

[trainguy77]

it looks to me that we are still ranked 59. and the next group is about to pass us!

but yes, talking about it more here helps out quite a bit. the more we interact here, the better

We lost our spot again. We passed Team Lithuania for a brief time as yesterday was a big day for us and a bad one for them.

[twoodcc]

We lost our spot again. We passed Team Lithuania for a brief time as yesterday was a big day for us and a bad one for them.

oh ok. well we are now #60. so someone else must have passed us as well. looks like we're safe there for a couple months at least

[lordonuthin]

oh ok. well we are now #60. so someone else must have passed us as well. looks like we're safe there for a couple months at least

We are only just a little bit slower than Lithuania we could retake them if we had a few more ppd. China is another story, that would take quite a bit higher ppd to get back in front of them, the longer they are in front of us the farther back we get :(

[lordonuthin]

To become a relevant team, we need to reach 250k units per day, almost double the current rate. We need 70 more iMacs/MacBooks or 5 8-core systems.

You buy the mac pros and send em my way and I'll get em set up :p

[lordonuthin]

18k PPD is pretty impressive. . . . if you run it in windows you could use the vid card too, probably pull close to 25k. I would love to see Pande Group put out a GPU client for mac OS X.... I'm getting sick of running windows 90% of the time on my Mac Pro.

With all of my machines (8) I am pulling 25k ppd. The '09 mac pro 2x2.66 is doing 4-5 min per frame for normal units - I'm afraid to change anything right now so I don't lose momentum.

[ayeying]

I'm running it on my air as fast as I can... but I'm stuck on this Astropulse thats taking 200 hours to complete :(

[lordonuthin]

I know with 2 Nvidia gtx 260's the Nvidia gtx 120 on the mac pro and other tweaking I could do a lot better but I'm reluctant to touch anything right now.

[trainguy77]

I wonder if I could get the GPU client running on my mac via darwine. Some people pulled it off with linux.

[SciFrog]

With all of my machines (8) I am pulling 25k ppd. The '09 mac pro 2x2.66 is doing 4-5 min per frame for normal units - I'm afraid to change anything right now so I don't lose momentum.

You should be able to pull 20k ppd with that machine only with the bigadv units...

[lordonuthin]

You should be able to pull 20k ppd with that machine only with the bigadv units...

I will have to try it when I get home tonight.

[twoodcc]

I'm running it on my air as fast as I can... but I'm stuck on this Astropulse thats taking 200 hours to complete :(

are you really folding on an air?

I will have to try it when I get home tonight.

let us know how it goes

[lordonuthin]

let us know how it goes

I've started with <./fah6 -bigadv -smp 16 -local> after getting rid of the unit it was working on, it is finally using all 16 cores now, had only been using 8. It doesn't look like it's doing anything more strenuous.

[05:54:53] pleted 2500 out of 250000 steps (1%)
[05:57:58] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)
[06:01:02] Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps (3%)
[06:04:07] Completed 10000 out of 250000 steps (4%)
[06:07:13] Completed 12500 out of 250000 steps (5%)
[06:10:20] Completed 15000 out of 250000 steps (6%)

[SciFrog]

This is not a bigadv unit... The fastest machines out there do a frame in 22 mins...


PS: I am folding on an air, good for 800PPD...

[twoodcc]

I've started with <./fah6 -bigadv -smp 16 -local> after getting rid of the unit it was working on, it is finally using all 16 cores now, had only been using 8. It doesn't look like it's doing anything more strenuous.

[05:54:53] pleted 2500 out of 250000 steps (1%)
[05:57:58] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)
[06:01:02] Completed 7500 out of 250000 steps (3%)
[06:04:07] Completed 10000 out of 250000 steps (4%)
[06:07:13] Completed 12500 out of 250000 steps (5%)
[06:10:20] Completed 15000 out of 250000 steps (6%)

yeah that's not a bigadv unit. i think you have to download the correct binary before you can use the -bigadv flag (i think). just take a look at stanford's web page for instructions.

This is not a bigadv unit... The fastest machines out there do a frame in 22 mins...


PS: I am folding on an air, good for 800PPD...

really? it just seems like the air would really overheat. is it usable at all while folding?

[SciFrog]

It is usable, but when you use it on your lap, it gets warmer and the CPU throttles down, resulting in slower times. I don't use it much so it works, and is under warranty... I rests on a laptop stand. It is the original 1.6Ghz, but seeing how some reputable magazine saw the slowdowns on the 2.13Ghz even more, not tempted to upgrade.

[ayeying]

are you really folding on an air?

Yes. It's a great machine and very capable. I don't experience any overheating issues or such. However, at night, when I'm asleep, I run it on a cooling pad in the kitchen for those "just-in-case" moments. However, during the day, I just run it without the cooling pad since it's pretty loud.

[lordonuthin]

Yes. It's a great machine and very capable. I don't experience any overheating issues or such. However, at night, when I'm asleep, I run it on a cooling pad in the kitchen for those "just-in-case" moments. However, during the day, I just run it without the cooling pad since it's pretty loud.

My first thought was; the AIR is loud?? but then I realized you meant the cool pad :eek:

[lordonuthin]

yeah that's not a bigadv unit. i think you have to download the correct binary before you can use the -bigadv flag (i think). just take a look at stanford's web page for instructions.

I thought I did everything right but... I did find that it was running another wu on 8 cores after I set it up, duh. Fixed that but it still won't pick up the bigadv so I thought maybe they are out of them? it will pick up normal wu's if it can't get bigadv one's. And maybe I need more than 6 GB of ram?

[ayeying]

My first thought was; the AIR is loud?? but then I realized you meant the cool pad :eek:

Yeah, my bad :D The cooling pad is loud but its not as loud as my first HP Pavilion laptop with a Pentium 4 desktop (yep, a desktop processor) processor in it. That thing had 3 fans running all the time.

[twoodcc]

I thought I did everything right but... I did find that it was running another wu on 8 cores after I set it up, duh. Fixed that but it still won't pick up the bigadv so I thought maybe they are out of them? it will pick up normal wu's if it can't get bigadv one's. And maybe I need more than 6 GB of ram?

check out this thread (http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=10697). near the bottom it says about a new binary

It is usable, but when you use it on your lap, it gets warmer and the CPU throttles down, resulting in slower times. I don't use it much so it works, and is under warranty... I rests on a laptop stand. It is the original 1.6Ghz, but seeing how some reputable magazine saw the slowdowns on the 2.13Ghz even more, not tempted to upgrade.

Yes. It's a great machine and very capable. I don't experience any overheating issues or such. However, at night, when I'm asleep, I run it on a cooling pad in the kitchen for those "just-in-case" moments. However, during the day, I just run it without the cooling pad since it's pretty loud.

wow. i'm very surprised that ya'll are folding on an air. it seems the fans come on my air when watching a youtube video.

[Storm9]

I've started with <./fah6 -bigadv -smp 16 -local> after getting rid of the unit it was working on, it is finally using all 16 cores now, had only been using 8. It doesn't look like it's doing anything more strenuous.


How can you tell how many cores its using?

[iShater]

My MBP is up and running 24/7 now, HP laptop working during business hours, and my CD iMac is running at night. I should be back to my "normal" output.

Now I am itching to buy a MP :p

[twoodcc]

My MBP is up and running 24/7 now, HP laptop working during business hours, and my CD iMac is running at night. I should be back to my "normal" output.

Now I am itching to buy a MP :p

glad to hear it!

hey. mac pros are really nice! ;)

[twoodcc]

I thought I did everything right but... I did find that it was running another wu on 8 cores after I set it up, duh. Fixed that but it still won't pick up the bigadv so I thought maybe they are out of them? it will pick up normal wu's if it can't get bigadv one's. And maybe I need more than 6 GB of ram?

also, you need to have a passkey and completed 10 WUs with your passkey before you'll get a bigadv unit

[mc68k]

Now I am itching to buy a MP :ptoo bad they dont have a midrange tower with an i5 or i7

[twoodcc]

too bad they dont have a midrange tower with an i5 or i7

yeah for real. but that iMac sure does seem nice

[SciFrog]

also, you need to have a passkey and completed 10 WUs with your passkey before you'll get a bigadv unit

Actually you should get the bigadv right away, but the bonus will be awarded once you get 10 units recorded with the passkey.

[SciFrog]

yeah for real. but that iMac sure does seem nice

Someone claim the got 43 mins frame time on the biadv with a core i860 and Linux, same CPU as the higher end iMac. That is the same as my 3Ghz 8 core Mac Pro. You think it is possible?

[lordonuthin]

How can you tell how many cores its using?

With top in the command line or with activity monitor (utilities/activity monitor); you can see how many cores are running.

[lordonuthin]

also, you need to have a passkey and completed 10 WUs with your passkey before you'll get a bigadv unit

I got a passkey a couple of weeks ago and have it on all of the machines now. The mp has run through quite a few wu with the passkey by now.

[lordonuthin]

check out this thread (http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=10697). near the bottom it says about a new binary

I was looking at that and the link just gives me a whole bunch of binary text crap. I'm not sure what to do with that.

[lordonuthin]

Someone claim the got 43 mins frame time on the biadv with a core i860 and Linux, same CPU as the higher end iMac. That is the same as my 3Ghz 8 core Mac Pro. You think it is possible?

I think they were dreaming;) my i7 920 with ubuntu does normal frames in about 6 minutes, I think, I'm at work now so not absolutely sure but in that range. The mp is running normal frames at about 2 minutes.

[SciFrog]

Looks like 45 mins is more realistic. These chips seems as fast as i920, Impressive.

[lordonuthin]

I spent most of the night last night trying to get gpu2 running in wine on the i7 machine but ran into a problem and gave up. But I have found that the issue may not be with my set up, it may be the wu are bad so I will work on that again tonight to see what happens if I can get a different wu. Here is some info. (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=82110)

I would love to add the points from my 2 gtx 960's especially since that is why I got them :D

[SciFrog]

With similar hardware, is Umbutu faster at Folding?
I saw some strange results on the Folding forum.

Any chance to get GPU via wine in MAc OS X?

[trainguy77]

I spent most of the night last night trying to get gpu2 running in wine on the i7 machine but ran into a problem and gave up. But I have found that the issue may not be with my set up, it may be the wu are bad so I will work on that again tonight to see what happens if I can get a different wu. Here is some info. (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=82110)

I would love to add the points from my 2 gtx 960's especially since that is why I got them :D

here is a how too: http://moderngeek.com/node/81

This might help too: http://gpu2.twomurs.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

[ayeying]

wow. i'm very surprised that ya'll are folding on an air. it seems the fans come on my air when watching a youtube video.

Might as well right, the fan is pretty much on 24/7 at 6200RPM when I'm at home lol. The only time I see 2500/4000 RPM fans is when I'm at the library or in class. At home, I have music blazing in the background so a little fan noise don't matter.

[twoodcc]

Might as well right, the fan is pretty much on 24/7 at 6200RPM when I'm at home lol. The only time I see 2500/4000 RPM fans is when I'm at the library or in class. At home, I have music blazing in the background so a little fan noise don't matter.

yeah i guess. just don't try and use it in your lap though

[twoodcc]

Someone claim the got 43 mins frame time on the biadv with a core i860 and Linux, same CPU as the higher end iMac. That is the same as my 3Ghz 8 core Mac Pro. You think it is possible?

i think it was overclocked to 3.8 ghz or did i read that somewhere else?

I was looking at that and the link just gives me a whole bunch of binary text crap. I'm not sure what to do with that.

really? i know i was able to download it somewhere. let me know if you can't find it and i can help later tonight when i get home from work

I think they were dreaming;) my i7 920 with ubuntu does normal frames in about 6 minutes, I think, I'm at work now so not absolutely sure but in that range. The mp is running normal frames at about 2 minutes.

2 minutes? dang that's fast. you really need to be running the bigadv units then.

Looks like 45 mins is more realistic. These chips seems as fast as i920, Impressive.

yeah, they should be about as fast, maybe even slightly faster. the main difference is the 920 is easier to overclock

I spent most of the night last night trying to get gpu2 running in wine on the i7 machine but ran into a problem and gave up. But I have found that the issue may not be with my set up, it may be the wu are bad so I will work on that again tonight to see what happens if I can get a different wu. Here is some info. (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=82110)

I would love to add the points from my 2 gtx 960's especially since that is why I got them :D

let me know if you get it working. i might try it as well

here is a how too: http://moderngeek.com/node/81

This might help too: http://gpu2.twomurs.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

thanks for the links. i might give it a shot this weekend

[SciFrog]

It doesn't look like the Core i860 was overclocked, running at 2.8...

Hyperthreading does wonder to Folding eh.

[twoodcc]

It doesn't look like the Core i860 was overclocked, running at 2.8...

Hyperthreading does wonder to Folding eh.

oh ok. i did see a core i7-860 running at 3.8 somewhere. but 43 - 45 mins a frame should be about right i think. wouldn't you get a bonus with that?

[ayeying]

yeah i guess. just don't try and use it in your lap though

It's rather cool to touch when it's not charging. Charging, then I'll probably burn my finger if I touch the "ESC/F1/F2" area.

[michael.lauden]

i just don't see the incentive to join another team,

i have my MacBook, my Mac mini, PS3, a 1.66GHz Dell PC and a 1.8GHz Dell PC all folding 24/7

why would i leave my own team to join MacRumors? I just hit 128 units, look me up team # 170955

but tell me. why should i MR will never be ranked #1

[SciFrog]

Looks like you are your own team?
Where is the fun there? By joining us you can help a top 100 team and keep visibility if you are in the top 20 crunchers of a team. If you join a huge team, you have no visibility.

You can compete with team members...

Check this:

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=3446

My criterias for being in a team are:
- the team must be in the top 100 (dropped my old team because of that)
- I must be a top 20 cruncher in that team
- the team must be mac related

[michael.lauden]

yes i understand the point. but i don't find a reason.

and yes, i do have all the computers in my household contributing to my personal team.

i can't 'compete'. the whole thing is basically it's whoever has a very nice computer/folding rig, or whoever has a nice computer and doesn't use it, but leaves it on to fold. so technically it's not 'competing' because they are computers, you aren't actually doing any work besides for setting up the actual client, and having it run well on your machine.

[twoodcc]

It's rather cool to touch when it's not charging. Charging, then I'll probably burn my finger if I touch the "ESC/F1/F2" area.

but how often do you have it folding and not charging?

yes i understand the point. but i don't find a reason.

and yes, i do have all the computers in my household contributing to my personal team.

i can't 'compete'. the whole thing is basically it's whoever has a very nice computer/folding rig, or whoever has a nice computer and doesn't use it, but leaves it on to fold. so technically it's not 'competing' because they are computers, you aren't actually doing any work besides for setting up the actual client, and having it run well on your machine.

well i never actually thought of having my own team. and i can see a little personal value there.

but really, it is fun to have team members to kinda compete with. i know we aren't doing work ourselves, but it's a good cause, and what gets people to fold besides the cause is to beat each other. without the points system, not many people would fold.

i hope you decide to join MR oneday soon

[SciFrog]

You just leave the computers on 24/7 just folding. Not everyone does though. Also trying to fold more might influence your farm or purchases. Also trying beta programs is a way to compete. Also being on a team gives you more satisfaction than just your personal crunching.

[twoodcc]

You just leave the computers on 24/7 just folding. Not everyone does though. Also trying to fold more might influence your farm or purchases. Also trying beta programs is a way to compete. Also being on a team gives you more satisfaction than just your personal crunching.

i agree. the only reason i could see having your own team is if you had a different user for each computer, so that you knew the stats for each system

[SciFrog]

We are wrapping our best week ever, PPD is now 175k and our outlook is better.

Yet we only have two people using bigadv units... We can do much better :cool:

[twoodcc]

We are wrapping our best week ever, PPD is now 175k and our outlook is better.

Yet we only have two people using bigadv units... We can do much better :cool:

alright! and i am going to give the bigadv units another shot. but it's not looking good right now - just under 43 min for my first 2 frames. not sure what's going on. i've gotta install some updates on ubuntu and see if that helps

[twoodcc]

alright! and i am going to give the bigadv units another shot. but it's not looking good right now - just under 43 min for my first 2 frames. not sure what's going on. i've gotta install some updates on ubuntu and see if that helps

well nevermind. i got it around 36 mins now for each frame. i had been messing with the bios earlier, and forgot to put it back how i had it (overclocked)

[ayeying]

Does anyone know when GPU folding would be around... kinda wanna put my CUDA to use in OSX and not in Windows 7 here. I'm pumping out 12 minutes per frame using the 9400M

[lordonuthin]

We are wrapping our best week ever, PPD is now 175k and our outlook is better.

Yet we only have two people using bigadv units... We can do much better :cool:

Seems to me like you are trying to say something there :rolleyes:
Well, ok then, I will look into it again, just don't hold your breath :p
If I can maybe we could catch back up to team Lithuania, they haven't gotten very far ahead of us, so maybe we could do it, 'course it would help to get some more people folding for us.

I also haven't gotten gpu2 to work on either of my gtx 260's, I think it might be a driver issue because it is a problem for a lot of people in XP and Vista as well :mad:

[lordonuthin]

I did a complete reinstall of folding@home and it is now doing a bigadv wu :)
Finally!

wu 2683 r12c9g7 looks to be about 27 min per frame.

[SciFrog]

27 mins? On the 2.26 octo?

Getting 43 mins on my 3ghz octo from 2007...

[mc68k]

wow 27 mins is great!

at that rate it could complete a unit in as little as 1.9 days! the MP im using takes 3+

[SciFrog]

Will be hard to resist getting a Nehalem when they get updated next...

[lordonuthin]

27 mins? On the 2.26 octo?
Getting 43 mins on my 3ghz octo from 2007...

I thought it seemed pretty good.

wow 27 mins is great!
at that rate it could complete a unit in as little as 1.9 days! the MP im using takes 3+

I was reading another foum where a guy has an 8 cpu/6 core amd rig and is getting frame rates of 14 min per and 80k ppd!

Will be hard to resist getting a Nehalem when they get updated next...

I'm trying to figure out how I can get the next update to the mac pro, if I sell my current one I would only be out maybe $500, I hope. But then I would still only have one mac pro, I'd rather keep the one I have and ad another :D

[twoodcc]

Seems to me like you are trying to say something there :rolleyes:
Well, ok then, I will look into it again, just don't hold your breath :p
If I can maybe we could catch back up to team Lithuania, they haven't gotten very far ahead of us, so maybe we could do it, 'course it would help to get some more people folding for us.

I also haven't gotten gpu2 to work on either of my gtx 260's, I think it might be a driver issue because it is a problem for a lot of people in XP and Vista as well :mad:

wait, you cant get gpu2 to work in windows?

I did a complete reinstall of folding@home and it is now doing a bigadv wu :)
Finally!

wu 2683 r12c9g7 looks to be about 27 min per frame.

dang that's fast. on a 2.26 mac pro? it's taking me like just under or right at 36 min on my i7 920 running at 3.5 ghz. hey now, if you could do these on your 920 then you could really put up some points

[SciFrog]

The 80k PPD is a 32 core AMD system...

[Animalk]

Anyone know if their is any work being done to put the OpenCL foundation (introduced with Snow Leopard for the Mac world) to good use?

Is anyone on top of the Grand Central and OpenCL scene able to chime in on this?

[lordonuthin]

The 80k PPD is a 32 core AMD system...

That's what I meant.

[lordonuthin]

wait, you cant get gpu2 to work in windows?

I haven't tried windows but from reading posts elsewhere it seems to be a problem in windows as well. As with most things electronic it is likely only a few who have trouble. I'm just better at bad luck than most people are.


dang that's fast. on a 2.26 mac pro? it's taking me like just under or right at 36 min on my i7 920 running at 3.5 ghz. hey now, if you could do these on your 920 then you could really put up some points

If you only have 4 cores and I have 8 that isn't very much of a difference even taking into account the mhz discrepency. It might be worth trying to see if my 920 would be ok at stock speed with bigadv units.

[twoodcc]

If you only have 4 cores and I have 8 that isn't very much of a difference even taking into account the mhz discrepency. It might be worth trying to see if my 920 would be ok at stock speed with bigadv units.

well at stock speed it takes my 920 about 43 min per frame. Not bad, but I think that barely gets a bonus. But it is definitely worth it though

[SciFrog]

At 43 mins you get a 100% bonus, 17k PPD...

[twoodcc]

At 43 mins you get a 100% bonus, 17k PPD...

alright then. i'd say that's reason enough to run bigadv units on your 920 at stock speed

[lordonuthin]

alright then. i'd say that's reason enough to run bigadv units on your 920 at stock speed

I'll get right on it! and try to oc it some, once I figure out how :o

I should finish my first bigadv wu sometime around 10 cst tonight.

[twoodcc]

I'll get right on it! and try to oc it some, once I figure out how :o

I should finish my first bigadv wu sometime around 10 cst tonight.

sounds good! you'll really stack up on points then! what kind of motherboard do you have with the 920?

also, how are your amd machines doing?

[lordonuthin]

sounds good! you'll really stack up on points then! what kind of motherboard do you have with the 920?

also, how are your amd machines doing?

1/Athlon X2 4400+ ~20 min/frame/normal wu on XFX GeForce 8200 board
2/Athlon X2 4400+ ~20 min/frame/normal wu on XFX GeForce 8200
3/Athlon X2 4400+ ~20 min/frame/normal wu on XFX GeForce 8200
4/Athlon X2 4400+ ~20 min/frame/normal wu on XFX GeForce 8200
5/Phenom X4 9600 ~12 min/frame/normal wu on Gigabyte MA78GM-S2H
6/Phenom II X4 965 black ~5-6 min/frame/normal wu on Asus M4479T Deluxe

7/MSI X58 Pro w/ i7 920 ~3-4 min/frame/normal wu
8/'09 Mac Pro 2x Xeon 5550 26 min 40 sec /frame/bigadv wu

[lordonuthin]

I just jumped to 19th place on the team when my bigadv unit was posted. better get that i7 going and figure out the gpu2 problem. (scratches head)

I think we might catch back up to Team Lithuania :D

[sammich]

Well, I'll hop on the bandwagon. My measly old MBP should be able to cope with it. I'll get my PS3 onto the game as well, just to see how much I can get out of it.

(far out you guys are well equipped)

[lordonuthin]

Well, I'll hop on the bandwagon. My measly old MBP should be able to cope with it. I'll get my PS3 onto the game as well, just to see how much I can get out of it.

(far out you guys are well equipped)

Great to have you aboard! Every machine we can get helps. PS3's are great folding machines.

[twoodcc]

I just jumped to 19th place on the team when my bigadv unit was posted. better get that i7 going and figure out the gpu2 problem. (scratches head)

I think we might catch back up to Team Lithuania :D

Nice. Those amd machines add up since you have so many. How do you deal with heat?

Well, I'll hop on the bandwagon. My measly old MBP should be able to cope with it. I'll get my PS3 onto the game as well, just to see how much I can get out of it.

(far out you guys are well equipped)

glad to have you!

[SciFrog]

Congrats whiterabbit on your first bigadv unit. Team outlook looks better, yet we are not out of the woods yet.

[twoodcc]

Congrats whiterabbit on your first bigadv unit. Team outlook looks better, yet we are not out of the woods yet.

i think we've come a long way. and if whiterabbit does bigadv units on this i7 also, then we'll really be looking good

[lordonuthin]

Nice. Those amd machines add up since you have so many. How do you deal with heat?


The heat is an issue, for now I can open windows and use fans but by next summer I will have to do something about it. I'm actually contemplating cutting a hole in the basement floor (concrete) and digging down several feet to place a tubing coil that could be used to cool the cpu's directly with water blocks. That would require a manifold to distribute the coolant to all of the cpu's and possibly gpu's. That might be cheaper electric wise but would take money and time to implement. Wait a sec, I just realized I already have a hole in the floor for the sump, hmmmm. Anyway I have some time to contemplate the possibilities, and I can do all of the work myself. I know some folks in the heating/cooling business that could help design a system so I will maybe talk with them at some point. Another possibility is a small window ac just for the computer room or moving everything to the basement where it is cooler anyway... but damp in the spring. Lots of possibilities - Google is my friend :D

[twoodcc]

The heat is an issue, for now I can open windows and use fans but by next summer I will have to do something about it. I'm actually contemplating cutting a hole in the basement floor (concrete) and digging down several feet to place a tubing coil that could be used to cool the cpu's directly with water blocks. That would require a manifold to distribute the coolant to all of the cpu's and possibly gpu's. That might be cheaper electric wise but would take money and time to implement. Wait a sec, I just realized I already have a hole in the floor for the sump, hmmmm. Anyway I have some time to contemplate the possibilities, and I can do all of the work myself. I know some folks in the heating/cooling business that could help design a system so I will maybe talk with them at some point. Another possibility is a small window ac just for the computer room or moving everything to the basement where it is cooler anyway... but damp in the spring. Lots of possibilities - Google is my friend :D

well good luck with that. it sounds like you'll have fun tackling that job. me, on the other hand, isn't. but i'm in an apartment for now, until around july of next year. and then i'll be moving to another apartment. and hopefully soon after that, a house. just depends on my job. but until i have a house, it seems my ac will be on all the time

[mc68k]

guess what came into work yesterday

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9518/screenshot20091029at102.th.png (http://img255.imageshack.us/i/screenshot20091029at102.png/)

[twoodcc]

guess what came into work yesterday

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9518/screenshot20091029at102.th.png (http://img255.imageshack.us/i/screenshot20091029at102.png/)

dang. will you be folding with it?

[mc68k]

for now, we'll see what happens in the long term.

[twoodcc]

for now, we'll see what happens in the long term.

sounds good. it would be great if you run bigadv units on that machine. you saw what it can do from whiterabbit's stats.

[SciFrog]

Let us know what time per frame and PPD you get...

[mc68k]

Let us know what time per frame and PPD you get...this thing is slow as *****. i may turn off hyperthreading and see if that makes a diff

[twoodcc]

this thing is slow as *****. i may turn off hyperthreading and see if that makes a diff

how slow?

[mc68k]

right now its reformatting into a RAID, boss wanted to RAID it. lost 2 frames no biggie. here's what i got before that

[22:05:44] pleted 2500 out of 250000 steps (1%)
[22:54:37] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)

so thats about 50 mins per frame. i was thinking maybe that was due to the clock speed being 2.26 or the HT. the old 3ghz MP does a frame in the low to mid 40s

wont get to test until tomorrow

[twoodcc]

right now its reformatting into a RAID, boss wanted to RAID it. lost 2 frames no biggie. here's what i got before that

[22:05:44] pleted 2500 out of 250000 steps (1%)
[22:54:37] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)

so thats about 50 mins per frame. i was thinking maybe that was due to the clock speed being 2.26 or the HT. the old 3ghz MP does a frame in the low to mid 40s

wont get to test until tomorrow

oh wow. so wait, whiterabbit's mp was 2.26 or 2.66? based off that, i guess 2.66. hey maybe the raid will help some?

[SciFrog]

Should get32/33 mins per frame, something else must be slowing it down. Could be the raid, spotlight, check the activity monitor. Keep HT on.

[twoodcc]

Should get32/33 mins per frame, something else must be slowing it down. Could be the raid, spotlight, check the activity monitor. Keep HT on.

oh wow. now that's a huge difference. something's gotta be wrong then

[mc68k]

i was running -8, should i be running -16?

spotlight shouldnt have been an issue-- it had been on for hours and theres no user accounts on it. raid wasnt on yet.

not stressing too much about it. it's nice to replace a bunch of random machines (especially imacs) with one big producer that actually has a big fan and is designed to get rid of heat fast. those imacs get so hot i get scared for the components. we've had several go out recently. the fan hole on the back is so small its almost comical. apple can't have a fan on the back thats bigger than the logo! it can't have a hard drive light or a cd eject! that would ruin the aesthetics! can't replace the harddrive without suction cups!! needless to say i hate imacs.

[sammich]

I don't want to be ignorant, but I thought that HT was all about utilising the unused portions of each core. But if you're running F@H shouldn't those cores be fully utilised anyway?

[lordonuthin]

right now its reformatting into a RAID, boss wanted to RAID it. lost 2 frames no biggie. here's what i got before that

[22:05:44] pleted 2500 out of 250000 steps (1%)
[22:54:37] Completed 5000 out of 250000 steps (2%)

so thats about 50 mins per frame. i was thinking maybe that was due to the clock speed being 2.26 or the HT. the old 3ghz MP does a frame in the low to mid 40s

wont get to test until tomorrow

I run this:./fah6 -bigadv -smp 16 -localwhich works all 16 cores/threads, check activity monitor to see how many cores are running, there should be 16 total. The first time I started it there were only 4 running so I shut it down and restarted with the -smp 16 in it and that did the trick.
I don't want to be ignorant, but I thought that HT was all about utilising the unused portions of each core. But if you're running F@H shouldn't those cores be fully utilised anyway? 2.26 to 2.66 shouldn't make that big of a difference and I didn't know you could even turn HT off, even if you wanted to.

[mc68k]

cool thats probably it then, the -16.

the processor trick is with the dev tools. there's a prefpane where u can turn off individual cores, and turn off hyperthreading. too bad there's not a dev tool for overclocking ;)

[SciFrog]

We might take team Lituania today ;)

[lordonuthin]

cool thats probably it then, the -16.

the processor trick is with the dev tools. there's a prefpane where u can turn off individual cores, and turn off hyperthreading. too bad there's not a dev tool for overclocking ;)

Oh yeah, I remember that now, about something in dev tools, that would be really interesting to have oc tools as well.

[twoodcc]

cool thats probably it then, the -16.

the processor trick is with the dev tools. there's a prefpane where u can turn off individual cores, and turn off hyperthreading. too bad there's not a dev tool for overclocking ;)

alright. let us know how the -16 works. i've read on the folding forums about some people having more success with -15, you might even give that a try also

We might take team Lituania today ;)

i hope so

[SciFrog]

-16 is better for Intel processors.

[twoodcc]

-16 is better for Intel processors.

oh ok. well -16 then. and let us know how it goes.

also, whiterabbit, are you using -8 with your i7 on the bigadv units?

[mc68k]

it's doing one frame about every 33 mins now with -16

[twoodcc]

it's doing one frame about every 33 mins now with -16

alright, now we're talkin!

[SciFrog]

To become a relevant team, we need to reach 250k units per day, almost double the current rate. We need 70 more iMacs/MacBooks or 5 8-core systems.

We have reached 200k PPD, nice power up...
Keep going, we need more bigadv users...

[twoodcc]

We have reached 200k PPD, nice power up...
Keep going, we need more bigadv users...

yeah we've came a long way. just gotta keep it going

[SciFrog]

We might take team Lituania today ;)

We got them!
Well, we may pass each other back and forth a few times before we can really pull away...
Next target: 2.3 weeks away! Keep Folding!

And a little pat in the back as I just took the #8 spot on the team. Watch out this week #7! After it gets more tricky and WhiteRabbit is coming behind faaaaast...

[lordonuthin]

We got them!
Well, we may pass each other back and forth a few times before we can really pull away...
Next target: 2.3 weeks away! Keep Folding!

And a little pat in the back as I just took the #8 spot on the team. Watch out this week #7! After it gets more tricky and WhiteRabbit is coming behind faaaaast...

was' up Doc! Yeah, looks like we will do musical chairs with Lithuania again maybe, he he, hope they are up to it :D

You know the story about the rabbit and the frog? Good, neither do I :p Oh, and pat on the back too.

That dang i7 is going back to normal units until I can figure out why it is so sloooooow... like a tortise...

[Belly-laughs]

i engaged an octo late last week, will set up another tomorrow. they both run 24/7.

the graphic designers using them rarely require more than 1 core anyway :)

[twoodcc]

We got them!
Well, we may pass each other back and forth a few times before we can really pull away...
Next target: 2.3 weeks away! Keep Folding!

And a little pat in the back as I just took the #8 spot on the team. Watch out this week #7! After it gets more tricky and WhiteRabbit is coming behind faaaaast...

looks like we're ahead now i think


That dang i7 is going back to normal units until I can figure out why it is so sloooooow... like a tortise...

how slow?

i engaged an octo late last week, will set up another tomorrow. they both run 24/7.

the graphic designers using them rarely require more than 1 core anyway :)

alright! nice! let us know how they are doing, and run the bigadv units if you can

[SciFrog]

i engaged an octo late last week, will set up another tomorrow. they both run 24/7.

the graphic designers using them rarely require more than 1 core anyway :)

Welcome!
Please run the bigadv units, you will get much better PPD. It looks like you are running the regular SMP client for now.
Use -smp 8 if the are 2008 or earlier, -smp 16 if they are 2009 otco...

[twoodcc]

Welcome!
Please run the bigadv units, you will get much better PPD. It looks like you are running the regular SMP client for now.
Use -smp 8 if the are 2008 or earlier, -smp 16 if they are 2009 otco...

will -smp 8 be fast enough?

[Belly-laughs]

alright! nice! let us know how they are doing, and run the bigadv units if you can

Welcome!
Please run the bigadv units, you will get much better PPD. It looks like you are running the regular SMP client for now.
Use -smp 8 if the are 2008 or earlier, -smp 16 if they are 2009 otco...

Both computers now up-and-running. No complaints from the designers regarding poor performance :)

I'm running the standard client, I'll look into the other options when I got some spare time.

It's quite remarkable to see the performance boost compared to my G5 dual 1.8 that's been folding for years.

[twoodcc]

Both computers now up-and-running. No complaints from the designers regarding poor performance :)

I'm running the standard client, I'll look into the other options when I got some spare time.

It's quite remarkable to see the performance boost compared to my G5 dual 1.8 that's been folding for years.

glad to hear it. just so you know, the bigadv units will get you some big time points. it really is worth it if the machine is fast enough, and i'm pretty sure those are

[twoodcc]

looks like we've had a slow 24 hours

[lordonuthin]

looks like we've had a slow 24 hours

Yes indeed, I think I will have the lowest point day I've had in a long time :eek:

[twoodcc]

Yes indeed, I think I will have the lowest point day I've had in a long time :eek:

wait, surely something is wrong with EOC folding stats? it didn't count my last bigadv unit

[lordonuthin]

wait, surely something is wrong with EOC folding stats? it didn't count my last bigadv unit

I was looking at some other peoples stats and no one has any points after about 1800 yesterday (weds) so I think everyone is in the same boat for now. we will have to wait to see what is going on I guess :(

[trainguy77]

Yeah look at any teams overall stats. They all have a huge drop in production. The first place team shows it very well. But everyteam has this drop.

[twoodcc]

i sure hope i don't lose that bigadv unit

[mc68k]

that stats drop pissed me off, i hope those stats get reconciled at some point

[SciFrog]

Can't find ant update ad to when they will reinstate them...

[twoodcc]

that stats drop pissed me off, i hope those stats get reconciled at some point

Can't find ant update ad to when they will reinstate them...

yeah i know. i read that they would add them, but if they haven't by now, i don't think they will

[Goettel]

Hi everyone, just joined the team.

I have an iMac core duo going at it. She isn't much with her 1.83Ghz but it'll be at it 24h a day. It's about to complete it's first WU after 1day 19hours. It sounds a bit long to me compared to the times a say reading the thread, is this normal?

[MacProCpo]

I also just joined. Let see what my '08 Octo 2.8 MP can contribute to our score/rankings:D

[SciFrog]

I also just joined. Let see what my '08 Octo 2.8 MP can contribute to our score/rankings:D

Make sure that once you have a passkey and 10 SMP untis folded you run bigadv units.

[SciFrog]

Hi everyone, just joined the team.

I have an iMac core duo going at it. She isn't much with her 1.83Ghz but it'll be at it 24h a day. It's about to complete it's first WU after 1day 19hours. It sounds a bit long to me compared to the times a say reading the thread, is this normal?

Yes. My 2.13 iMac takes 1 day 9 hours ish...

[SciFrog]

yeah i know. i read that they would add them, but if they haven't by now, i don't think they will

Strange it hasn't been done yet. It would help as we struggle to take on ClubLexus as they have raised their production very close to our level.

On another note, it looks like the Gulftown 6 core that will be next in the Mac Pro are screaming. It will be hard to resist getting a 12 core machine (24 with hyperthreading) unless the price is ridiculous. Should be good for 60k PPD ;)

[trainguy77]

Hi everyone, just joined the team.

I have an iMac core duo going at it. She isn't much with her 1.83Ghz but it'll be at it 24h a day. It's about to complete it's first WU after 1day 19hours. It sounds a bit long to me compared to the times a say reading the thread, is this normal?

Keep in mind some of the people in this thread are using Mac Pros.

Which client are you using? Are both cores being used?

[twoodcc]

Hi everyone, just joined the team.

I have an iMac core duo going at it. She isn't much with her 1.83Ghz but it'll be at it 24h a day. It's about to complete it's first WU after 1day 19hours. It sounds a bit long to me compared to the times a say reading the thread, is this normal?

glad to have you!

I also just joined. Let see what my '08 Octo 2.8 MP can contribute to our score/rankings:D

glad to have you! like SciFrog said, get a passkey and run the bigadv units on that mac pro!

Strange it hasn't been done yet. It would help as we struggle to take on ClubLexus as they have raised their production very close to our level.

On another note, it looks like the Gulftown 6 core that will be next in the Mac Pro are screaming. It will be hard to resist getting a 12 core machine (24 with hyperthreading) unless the price is ridiculous. Should be good for 60k PPD ;)

yeah i'm surprised that they said they would give us the points, and still haven't.

have you read some info about the Gulftown's? please share if you have! oh i know it will be hard to resist buying one!

[Goettel]

Keep in mind some of the people in this thread are using Mac Pros.

Which client are you using? Are both cores being used?

I'm using the default Folding@home client from standford's site. FahMon and F@H WUdget report the core as Gromacs SMP, and it is using both cores. I noticed with activity monitor that it has spawned 4 threads each using around 45-50% CPU which is a bit odd as it is only a dual core machine with no HT. The PPD is at around 1080 and it is going at 1.66x minimum speed. What do you think?

[trainguy77]

I'm using the default Folding@home client from standford's site. FahMon and F@H WUdget report the core as Gromacs SMP, and it is using both cores. I noticed with activity monitor that it has spawned 4 threads each using around 45-50% CPU which is a bit odd as it is only a dual core machine with no HT. The PPD is at around 1080 and it is going at 1.66x minimum speed. What do you think?

That seems about right for a 2 core system.
As for the 4 process I think thats because the code was written to be used on 4 cores. This is how it should run on 2 cores. Unless they changed it since back when I first was folding. I have lost touch with the current stuff. :p

[SciFrog]

The above is correct.

[SciFrog]

Something just happened in the stats, we got a big jump and many teams too. Yet I don't think this is the whole catch up as we still miss points as a team and I still miss a big unit...

That was enough to get us to #58 though, just by a hair...

[lordonuthin]

Something just happened in the stats, we got a big jump and many teams too. Yet I don't think this is the whole catch up as we still miss points as a team and I still miss a big unit...

That was enough to get us to #58 though, just by a hair...

Yes indeed, we just passed club lexus, I'll have to take a look to see if I got my points back.

[lordonuthin]

Hi everyone, just joined the team.
I have an iMac core duo going at it. She isn't much with her 1.83Ghz but it'll be at it 24h a day. It's about to complete it's first WU after 1day 19hours. It sounds a bit long to me compared to the times a say reading the thread, is this normal?

Glad to have y... oh, did someone else already say that...

Originally Posted by MacProCpo
I also just joined. Let see what my '08 Octo 2.8 MP can contribute to our score/rankings

glad to have you!

glad to have you! like SciFrog said, get a passkey and run the bigadv units on that mac pro!

yeah i'm surprised that they said they would give us the points, and still haven't.

have you read some info about the Gulftown's? please share if you have! oh i know it will be hard to resist buying one!

Happy folding! we can use all the points we can get!

[twoodcc]

Something just happened in the stats, we got a big jump and many teams too. Yet I don't think this is the whole catch up as we still miss points as a team and I still miss a big unit...

That was enough to get us to #58 though, just by a hair...

Yes indeed, we just passed club lexus, I'll have to take a look to see if I got my points back.

yeah, but i still haven't gotten my points back yet

[lordonuthin]

yeah, but i still haven't gotten my points back yet

Nope, I haven't either :mad:

[trainguy77]

Nope, I haven't either :mad:

yeah, but i still haven't gotten my points back yet

I think they will come either this last update or the next one. As if you look at the hourly graphs for any team a huge spike existed for the last hour. This is probably stanford processing log files. It may take time for them all to be processed.

[twoodcc]

I think they will come either this last update or the next one. As if you look at the hourly graphs for any team a huge spike existed for the last hour. This is probably stanford processing log files. It may take time for them all to be processed.

well i still haven't gotten them. but hopefully i will eventually

[MacProCpo]

glad to have you! like SciFrog said, get a passkey and run the bigadv units on that mac pro!

I've got my passkey! Now I have a couple of my machines working on units. I have a small Linux Render farm that I'll put online here shortly.

[mc68k]

i'm adding a bunch of machines for the break, should see some good #s

[lordonuthin]

I've got my passkey! Now I have a couple of my machines working on units. I have a small Linux Render farm that I'll put online here shortly.

Oh, please do get that render farm going! Well, when you have some time anyway :p

Also you can put the passkey in all instances of folding that you are running that way it you will get as much credit as possible.

[lordonuthin]

i'm adding a bunch of machines for the break, should see some good #s

Good, maybe we can get back ahead of club lexus, again. Then again that means I might not catch up to you in a year...

[twoodcc]

I've got my passkey! Now I have a couple of my machines working on units. I have a small Linux Render farm that I'll put online here shortly.

nice! good. get that farm going!

i'm adding a bunch of machines for the break, should see some good #s

sounds good! i might try and get a new system soon also during the holidays. we'll see

[mc68k]

Good, maybe we can get back ahead of club lexus, again. Then again that means I might not catch up to you in a year...

haha here's hoping ;)

yeah team lexus should be in the rearview mirror soon

[twoodcc]

yeah team lexus should be in the rearview mirror soon

i hope so.

[MacProCpo]

By "small render farm", I mean small! It's made up of 6 Dell GX270, running P4 2.4ghz single core, with my MP as the Que controller (Ubuntu via Parallels). But they should working out pretty good for continuous folding for the time being. I'm building 5 dual processor, dual core Xeon servers (all 2.66ghz) to replace the Dells but that won't happen until the end of December (i'm getting ready to move from Japan back to the States in two weeks and I have most of my stuff packed up). Once I get settled back in the States and have the new servers running, I should be able to commit some good firepower towards the team effort.

[lordonuthin]

By "small render farm", I mean small! It's made up of 6 Dell GX270, running P4 2.4ghz single core, with my MP as the Que controller (Ubuntu via Parallels). But they should working out pretty good for continuous folding for the time being. I'm building 5 dual processor, dual core Xeon servers (all 2.66ghz) to replace the Dells but that won't happen until the end of December (i'm getting ready to move from Japan back to the States in two weeks and I have most of my stuff packed up). Once I get settled back in the States and have the new servers running, I should be able to commit some good firepower towards the team effort.

Wow, I haven't been anywhere but here for a really long time, I'm starting to solidify I think. I spent some time in Europe long before the wall came down, but then again the Huns were still roaming around - or was that dinosaurs...

We'll give ya' a while to get set up before we set the hounds on ya' :D In the mean time maybe you have a calculator or abacus you can use in your spare time, ya' know, foldingbyhand I think it's called :p

Cheers and welcome back!

[MacProCpo]

Wow, I haven't been anywhere but here for a really long time, I'm starting to solidify I think. I spent some time in Europe long before the wall came down, but then again the Huns were still roaming around - or was that dinosaurs...

We'll give ya' a while to get set up before we set the hounds on ya' :D In the mean time maybe you have a calculator or abacus you can use in your spare time, ya' know, foldingbyhand I think it's called :p

Cheers and welcome back!

I appreciate the welcome back! The Navy has had me all over the world this last decade! I'm going to Norfolk, Va for my last couple of years before I retire. Hopefully my wife will have her college education completed by then and I can stay home and play "Mr. Mom"........and goof around with Blender and the farm full time (oh, and tinker with my cars too:D)!!

[twoodcc]

By "small render farm", I mean small! It's made up of 6 Dell GX270, running P4 2.4ghz single core, with my MP as the Que controller (Ubuntu via Parallels). But they should working out pretty good for continuous folding for the time being. I'm building 5 dual processor, dual core Xeon servers (all 2.66ghz) to replace the Dells but that won't happen until the end of December (i'm getting ready to move from Japan back to the States in two weeks and I have most of my stuff packed up). Once I get settled back in the States and have the new servers running, I should be able to commit some good firepower towards the team effort.

sounds good.

[lordonuthin]

I think I have lost 7 -10k points from the 10th 11th and 12th instead of gaining ~60-70k pts. the 10th I had ~3420 the 11th was ~7200 and the 12th was ~3420. now it's ~3420, 0 and I think 0. Don't suppose it would do any good to complain since I don't have any "proof" of what happened.

Oh well it's just a "game" anyway :rolleyes: and as long as I'm doing something meaningfull that is what really counts anyway. I'm not smart enough to contribute to science myself so this is my way to add to our knowledge of the universe and life.

Anyway, happy Thanksgiving to everyone everywhere and may your points pile up.

[twoodcc]

I think I have lost 7 -10k points from the 10th 11th and 12th instead of gaining ~60-70k pts. the 10th I had ~3420 the 11th was ~7200 and the 12th was ~3420. now it's ~3420, 0 and I think 0. Don't suppose it would do any good to complain since I don't have any "proof" of what happened.

Oh well it's just a "game" anyway :rolleyes: and as long as I'm doing something meaningfull that is what really counts anyway. I'm not smart enough to contribute to science myself so this is my way to add to our knowledge of the universe and life.

Anyway, happy Thanksgiving to everyone everywhere and may your points pile up.

yeah i'm not sure how i lost, but i know i lost a bigadv unit. but yeah, as long as we're contributing to a good cause, that's what counts.

and happy Thanksgiving to you as well :)

[SciFrog]

I lost a bigadv unit too. I think they will credit it back but it will take time.

[twoodcc]

I lost a bigadv unit too. I think they will credit it back but it will take time.

i hope they do. we'll see.

in the meantime, i'm thinking about putting a few video cards in my 2006 mac pro to fold with - since it's only getting like 3500 ppd running the smp client. i know i'll have to run windows to do the GPU2 client for now, but it might be worth it.

does anyone know if this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133304) card will work? and could i put 2 or 3 or 4 in there?

[lordonuthin]

i hope they do. we'll see.

in the meantime, i'm thinking about putting a few video cards in my 2006 mac pro to fold with - since it's only getting like 3500 ppd running the smp client. i know i'll have to run windows to do the GPU2 client for now, but it might be worth it.

does anyone know if this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133304) card will work? and could i put 2 or 3 or 4 in there?

The GeForce 9800 will work from what I have seen, thy this thread for more info. (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=461892) and here (http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1322096) google "gpu folding" to find all kinds of info

Let us know how it goes if you do get one to try.

[twoodcc]

The GeForce 9800 will work from what I have seen, thy this thread for more info. (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=461892) and here (http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1322096) google "gpu folding" to find all kinds of info

Let us know how it goes if you do get one to try.

thanks for the reply and links. i'm not sure if the 9800GT is the route i'll go. but if i could run 2 of those, i'd probably get better ppd than just the smp on my mac pro. i might even try a better card if it'll work

[MacProCpo]

8 WUs down, working on 9, and one more to go before I can get into bigadv.......:D

Does anyone have experience working with GPU2 and ATI cards? I've been playing around with my 4870 GPUs in Windoze and they don't seem to be running any faster then SMP in OSX. I've followed the the ATI GPU install guide on the f@h website i just don't know what I'm supposed to be seeing with regards to productivity.

Cheers and Happy Thanksgiving!

[SciFrog]

We need these bigadv, ClubLexus has raised their production to match ours...

For GPU, it is faster on nvidia...

[MacProCpo]

Guys, need some help. I have 10 WU completed and I want to get bigadv going. I've read the setup how-to on F@H and am a little lost. Am I correct to say all I have to do to initiate bigadv is put the "-bigadv" string in my parameter block in the smp client control window?

[twoodcc]

Guys, need some help. I have 10 WU completed and I want to get bigadv going. I've read the setup how-to on F@H and am a little lost. Am I correct to say all I have to do to initiate bigadv is put the "-bigadv" string in my parameter block in the smp client control window?

are you running the console version? most people around here usually run that (i think) in terminal. that's what i do. and i'd advise that for you as well. that way, you just add "-bigadv" in the terminal command.

but i think you can do it in the other version as well. basically yes, all you need to add is "-bigadv"

[lordonuthin]

are you running the console version? most people around here usually run that (i think) in terminal. that's what i do. and i'd advise that for you as well. that way, you just add "-bigadv" in the terminal command.

but i think you can do it in the other version as well. basically yes, all you need to add is "-bigadv"

You may need to set the unit size in config to "big", it wont take bigadv units if it is set to normal.

[twoodcc]

You may need to set the unit size in config to "big", it wont take bigadv units if it is set to normal.

yeah i forgot about that. you're right

[MacProCpo]

Thanks guys! I think I got it working. My WU size went from 4mb to 28mb:)

[twoodcc]

Thanks guys! I think I got it working. My WU size went from 4mb to 28mb:)

alright! should help with points big time!

[MacProCpo]

Since it's a slow and lazy Saturday at home, I decided to get the PS3 folding. So now I have the MP, my MacBook, two of 6 unix machines, my wife's iMac, and my PS3 folding.........what have you guys done to me? ;)

All the folding happiness will be coming to a close on Dec 7th though. That's when the movers show up to do the final packing and ship all my household goods. I should be back up and running full-on by mid Jan.

[lordonuthin]

Since it's a slow and lazy Saturday at home, I decided to get the PS3 folding. So now I have the MP, my MacBook, two of 6 unix machines, my wife's iMac, and my PS3 folding.........what have you guys done to me? ;)

All the folding happiness will be coming to a close on Dec 7th though. That's when the movers show up to do the final packing and ship all my household goods. I should be back up and running full-on by mid Jan.

PS3's give good ppd, and as far as what WE have done to you... check the water - bwahaha!

Here is a link to Atlas's machine stats, it's freeking awesome (http://atlasfolding.com/fahstats/summary.html)to look at!!!!!

[MacProCpo]

The water here in Japan IS a bit freaky :p

Here is a link to Atlas's machine stats, it's freeking awesome to look at!!!!!

I KNOW!!! Where's the "drool" emotiocon! Each one of his GPU monsters is making 66K ppd....and he's got FIVE OF THEM!!!

[twoodcc]

PS3's give good ppd, and as far as what WE have done to you... check the water - bwahaha!

Here is a link to Atlas's machine stats, it's freeking awesome (http://atlasfolding.com/fahstats/summary.html)to look at!!!!!

yeah i've got my PS3 folding when i'm not using it. i think it gets about 1,000 ppd (not sure though, but i think i read that somewhere)

thanks for that link!

The water here in Japan IS a bit freaky :p



I KNOW!!! Where's the "drool" emotiocon! Each one of his GPU monsters is making 66K ppd....and he's got FIVE OF THEM!!!

man that's crazy!

[lordonuthin]

I now have 2 gpu's running which should put up some additional points. I have stopped the cpu folding on that machine, it wasn't doing nearly as many ppd in windows as it was in linux. Hopefully I can push over the 400k ppw mark but we shall see.

I am used to win xp at work but win 7 has been a challenge to figure out, so many things have changed...

[twoodcc]

I now have 2 gpu's running which should put up some additional points. I have stopped the cpu folding on that machine, it wasn't doing nearly as many ppd in windows as it was in linux. Hopefully I can push over the 400k ppw mark but we shall see.

I am used to win xp at work but win 7 has been a challenge to figure out, so many things have changed...

nice. both 275s? how do you keep up with the wattage?

[lordonuthin]

nice. both 275s? how do you keep up with the wattage?

I have my fingers crossed! one of them is connected to the power supply for another machine :eek: it seems to be working for now but I will have to get some bigger psu's soon. The one you are getting looks like a good deal.

[twoodcc]

I have my fingers crossed! one of them is connected to the power supply for another machine :eek: it seems to be working for now but I will have to get some bigger psu's soon. The one you are getting looks like a good deal.

oh ok. yeah i've heard of people doing that though. yeah, better get a bigger psu soon though

[mc68k]

i recently got a ps3 slim, does ps3 folding rely on ps3 linux?

[mc68k]

Here is a link to Atlas's machine stats, it's freeking awesome (http://atlasfolding.com/fahstats/summary.html)to look at!!!!!man the failed stats there are pretty big

[twoodcc]

i recently got a ps3 slim, does ps3 folding rely on ps3 linux?

i don't think so. i'm pretty sure folding works on the slim. it's inside "life with playstation" or something like that.

[lordonuthin]

i recently got a ps3 slim, does ps3 folding rely on ps3 linux?

I think it does, but check the FAQ page (http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-PS3).

Shoulda' read the next post first, duh.

[lordonuthin]

Hey twoodcc, You are putting up a boatload of wu's, 41 for today, that is impressive and loads of points too. When I get home tonight I'm ordering 2 psu's and another windows 7 so I can get all 4 of my gpu's folding.

I think I will add another 2 gpu's (to make 6) and forget about another whole machine for now, that 12 core mac pro (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/11/28/mac-pro-to-get-6-core-xeon-gulftown-processor-in-2010/)they are talking about on the front page looks mighty tempting to wait for.

[twoodcc]

Hey twoodcc, You are putting up a boatload of wu's, 41 for today, that is impressive and loads of points too. When I get home tonight I'm ordering 2 psu's and another windows 7 so I can get all 4 of my gpu's folding.

I think I will add another 2 gpu's (to make 6) and forget about another whole machine for now, that 12 core mac pro (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/11/28/mac-pro-to-get-6-core-xeon-gulftown-processor-in-2010/)they are talking about on the front page looks mighty tempting to wait for.

thanks! yeah the bigadv units are nice, but i'm starting to think the gpus is where it's at. i'm already thinking of putting another gpu in my i7 machine (the one i've been running bigadv units on).

which 2 gpus are you thinking about adding?

yeah that 12 core mac pro will be tempting, but i bet the price won't be though

[SciFrog]

But you have to run windows... GPU3 will apparently allow macs to run the gpu client because of open CL, and also help ATI which are fairings very poorly right now in Folding.

[twoodcc]

But you have to run windows... GPU3 will apparently allow macs to run the gpu client because of open CL, and also help ATI which are fairings very poorly right now in Folding.

yeah i know, which stinks, but at least windows 7 is a little better.

here's the problem for me and the bigadv units: i can't really use the computer for anything else. but with the gpus going, i can still use the system.

gpu3 will be good, but still, apple doesn't allow for all the video cards though

[lordonuthin]

thanks! yeah the bigadv units are nice, but i'm starting to think the gpus is where it's at. i'm already thinking of putting another gpu in my i7 machine (the one i've been running bigadv units on).

which 2 gpus are you thinking about adding?

yeah that 12 core mac pro will be tempting, but i bet the price won't be though

It's amazing how much the the price has increased for "pro" macs over the years, though if you look at comparable dell's or hp's they are often more expensive than a high end mac pro (without the add on's, Apple want's too much for memory and hdd's).

I was thinking of maybe 2 more gtx 275's, that would make 4 275's and 2 260's. 3 would go on the i7 machine and 3 on the amd 965 and since I didn't have much luck with windows 7 running normal units well on the amd I may not get the normal cpu units running on the i7 either, all of those gpu's will make up for any difference though. That will probably be it for new horse power for a while, I may have to live with the idea that I will never catch up to mc68k :rolleyes: or even atlasfolding :D

[lordonuthin]

yeah i know, which stinks, but at least windows 7 is a little better.

here's the problem for me and the bigadv units: i can't really use the computer for anything else. but with the gpus going, i can still use the system.

gpu3 will be good, but still, apple doesn't allow for all the video cards though

At least with my mac pro it is quite usable while running bigadv units, it doesn't feel slow at all and the wu doesn't slow down very much.

Are there gpu, pci-e, power connectors inside the mac pro? I forgot to look the last time I had mine open.

I will sell my 2 copies of win 7, and go back to linux, when gpu3 is up and running, it would be nice not to have to buy another copy right now but I don't want to wait for gpu3, which could be weeks or months before it is ready. I guess it is out for alpha testing, I don't think I'll bother until it's past the beta stage.

[twoodcc]

It's amazing how much the the price has increased for "pro" macs over the years, though if you look at comparable dell's or hp's they are often more expensive than a high end mac pro (without the add on's, Apple want's too much for memory and hdd's).

I was thinking of maybe 2 more gtx 275's, that would make 4 275's and 2 260's. 3 would go on the i7 machine and 3 on the amd 965 and since I didn't have much luck with windows 7 running normal units well on the amd I may not get the normal cpu units running on the i7 either, all of those gpu's will make up for any difference though. That will probably be it for new horse power for a while, I may have to live with the idea that I will never catch up to mc68k :rolleyes: or even atlasfolding :D

yeah, the mac pro is just out of my price range now. when it was first released in 2006, you got 4 cores, which was the most at the time, for $2499. i could deal with that. but now 8 cores cost $3299, and i'm sure the 12 cores will be the same, if not even more.

oh ok. i'm not sure if i want to get 260s or 250s. i know the 260s get almost 2k more ppd than the 250GTS, but it might not be worth the price. i'm still thinking about it.

yeah right now i'm just running gpu units. i wonder which uses more power, gpu or bigadv?

At least with my mac pro it is quite usable while running bigadv units, it doesn't feel slow at all and the wu doesn't slow down very much.

Are there gpu, pci-e, power connectors inside the mac pro? I forgot to look the last time I had mine open.

I will sell my 2 copies of win 7, and go back to linux, when gpu3 is up and running, it would be nice not to have to buy another copy right now but I don't want to wait for gpu3, which could be weeks or months before it is ready. I guess it is out for alpha testing, I don't think I'll bother until it's past the beta stage.

my mac pro is too slow for the bigadv units, and the regular ones only get about 3500 ppd. i'm getting over 15,000 ppd with the 4 gpus.

your mac pro might have those connections. mine has 2 x 6-pin connectors for video cards. i really didn't look for any 4-pin connectors.

i don't even know where to look for the alpha gpu3. but yeah, i'll wait. i wonder how long the wait will be though

[SciFrog]

BTW no more points will be recredited for the stats mishap earlier last months. They lost the data and did some estimations... Nothing else will be given...

[twoodcc]

BTW no more points will be recredited for the stats mishap earlier last months. They lost the data and did some estimations... Nothing else will be given...

why am i not surprised that i didn't get mine?

[mc68k]

i'm already over it, in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter too much. if i were to be credited all the stuff over the years i should have been im sure id have 100s of thousands more points :(

[twoodcc]

i'm already over it, in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter too much. if i were to be credited all the stuff over the years i should have been im sure id have 100s of thousands more points :(

yeah i'm over it as well