Kerry Ad blitz

[Sayhey]

I was checking out the Kerry/Edwards website and came across a half dozen new ads (http://www.johnkerry.com/videos/) that they are releasing. All make sense as an attempt to promote a positive image of Kerry in the run up to the convention, culminating with his convention speech. This is the time that he will have the greatest possibility of forming a connection with voters about who he is. My guess is they are planning to spend all the cash they have been accumulating in massive ad buys in the battleground states. If they accept public financing after the campaign they will be limited in spending this money.

I haven't gone to the GOP or Bush/Cheney websites lately, but if they are releasing a ton of negative ads over the same time period it wouldn't surprise me. The Hitler ad maybe only the beginning.

[Voltron]

I was checking out the Kerry/Edwards website and came across a half dozen new ads (http://www.johnkerry.com/videos/) that they are releasing. All make sense as an attempt to promote a positive image of Kerry in the run up to the convention, culminating with his convention speech. This is the time that he will have the greatest possibility of forming a connection with voters about who he is. My guess is they are planning to spend all the cash they have been accumulating in massive ad buys in the battleground states. If they accept public financing after the campaign they will be limited in spending this money.

I haven't gone to the GOP or Bush/Cheney websites lately, but if they are releasing a ton of negative ads over the same time period it wouldn't surprise me. The Hitler ad maybe only the beginning.
yeah Kerry doesn't do negative ads like

“We are the vets that know Bush best, that is why we are supporting John Kerry for President. We are building a strong organization here in Texas,” said Rick Bolaños co-chair of the Texas Veterans for Kerry.

[zimv20]

yeah Kerry doesn't do negative ads like
i would say you're grasping at straws, but there don't seem to be any about.

why don't you go have a look at the ads?

[pseudobrit]

i would say you're grasping at straws, but there don't seem to be any about.

Perhaps the straws are made of quarks and other imaginary theoretical particles.

[Sayhey]

yeah Kerry doesn't do negative ads like

I never said he didn't do negative ads. It isn't the bulk of his ads like the Bush campaign has done, but sure they do ads that criticize Bush. You should read this article by the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3222-2004May30.html) and learn something about the issue.

The ad you cite isn't negative however. It is a positive endorsement of a fellow veteran who served with honor. I know you have been posting all kinds of echo-chamber rumors about Kerry's service (your postings about science have temporarily suckered me into reading your posts again,) but you know, because we went over this stuff before, that there isn't any proof behind the smears you keep circulating. Maybe you should go back and read the links I gave you so long ago about the qualifications for the Purple Heart, the actual postings of Kerry's records, the history of GOP attack dogs who are feeding folks like you this crap, etc.

[pseudobrit]

feeding folks like you this crap, etc.

I'm fairly sure he saw it on the menu and ordered it.

[Krizoitz]

After four years in office all Bush can do is point to why Kerry is a bad person and not why he is a good person for President. Shouldn't he be trying to highlight the good things he has done for this country? Oh wait...he can't do that can he.

[pseudobrit]

Shouldn't he be trying to highlight the good things he has done for this country? Oh wait...he can't do that can he.

He can lie, can't he?

[pooky]

Perhaps the straws are made of quarks and other imaginary theoretical particles.

They can't be. I don't understand quarks, therefore they must not exist.

[Voltron]

They can't be. I don't understand quarks, therefore they must not exist.
No the scientists have never seen a quark, has no proof of their existence however by inventing the quark it makes their math work therefore they must exist.http://sharevana.com/forums/images/generalsmileys/new_silly.gif

[Ugg]

No the scientists have never seen a quark, has no proof of their existence however by inventing the quark it makes their math work therefore they must exist.

Are you sure you're not referring to gw, his fuzzy math and WMD?

[Voltron]

Are you sure you're not referring to gw, his fuzzy math and WMD?
No.

If The Bush Administration Lied About WMD, So Did These People -- Version 3.0

by John Hawkins

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002

"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He's had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001... He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn't have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we." -- Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002

"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003

"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." -- Ted Kennedy, Sept 27, 2002

"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John F. Kerry, Oct 2002

"The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation." -- John Kerry, October 9, 2002

"(W)e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. ...And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War." -- John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." -- Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he can obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources -- something that is not that difficult in the current world. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Saddam’s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons before, both against Iraq’s enemies and against his own people. He is working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and U.S. facilities in the Middle East." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

two seperate topics that somehow got stuffed into one thread.

[pseudobrit]

Are you sure you're not referring to gw, his fuzzy math and WMD?

No one has died as a result of quark theories.

[Voltron]

No one has died as a result of quark theories.
But they have from WMD's.

[pseudobrit]

But they have from WMD's.

Whose?

[Ugg]

yeah Kerry doesn't do negative ads like

Sorry, but I don't see what is negative about that ad. A bunch of vets from TX are supporting Kerry because they don't like gw. Seems pretty simple and straightforward to me and there's nothing negative there. Are they supposed to avoid mentioning gw's name? He is the leader of the US armed forces who is responsible for the deaths of over 650 Americans along with over 5,000 with serious injuries. They've died and been injured in an illegal war. Seems to me like vets would have an opinion and should be allowed to express it and I don't see any sign that the kerry campaign has funded these guys, surely even you can do better than that.

As far as all of those quotes, we have been told that the CIA's info about SH wasn't worth the paper it was written on. THAT is where all those people got their info from, gw, however was the prez and is responsible for ensuring that the info was worth going to war over. It wasn't was it?

[Neserk]

[quote]
Originally Posted by Voltron
But they have from WMD's.



Whose?


The United STates :eek:

[pooky]

The United STates :eek:

And actually, all of those deaths are directly attributable to the actions of quarks. With no quarks, no atomic decay, no fission bomb, no Hiroshima.

[acdninjapan]

Are you sure you're not referring to gw, his fuzzy math and WMD?

No, I believe he is referring to Kim Jhong Il, his fuzzy math and WMD.

BTW why didn't Bush attack the North Koreans? was he afraid to go up against a for real possessor of WoMD?

[Voltron]

No, I believe he is referring to Kim Jhong Il, his fuzzy math and WMD.

BTW why didn't Bush attack the North Koreans? was he afraid to go up against a for real possessor of WoMD?
For starters N. Korea hasn't had 12 years to straighten up like Iraq was given. http://sharevana.com/forums/images/generalsmileys/icon_rolleyes.gif

[acdninjapan]

For starters N. Korea hasn't had 12 years to straighten up like Iraq was given. http://sharevana.com/forums/images/generalsmileys/icon_rolleyes.gif

No they have had 50! The Great Leader and now his son have consistently thumbed their noses at the UN and gone about their merry way doing what they do. The supposedly dismantled reactor complex is once again making weapons grade plutonium, the chemical factories are also producing sarin and other chemical warfare weapons.

Where do you think the Pakistanis got their bomb from! The Indians? The USofA?

And ask any Russian or Chinese politician about North Korea. They are worried and this country is supposed to be an ally.

Sly, wake up and smell the Kimchii!

[Voltron]

No they have had 50! The Great Leader and now his son have consistently thumbed their noses at the UN and gone about their merry way doing what they do. The supposedly dismantled reactor complex is once again making weapons grade plutonium, the chemical factories are also producing sarin and other chemical warfare weapons.

Where do you think the Pakistanis got their bomb from! The Indians? The USofA?

And ask any Russian or Chinese politician about North Korea. They are worried and this country is supposed to be an ally.

Sly, wake up and smell the Kimchii!
Well then maybe the Chinese or the Russians should do something, the US isn't responsible for the world.

[zimv20]

the US isn't responsible for the world.
...says the man for whom every reason to invade iraq is a valid one...