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MacRumors
Sep 23, 2009, 11:53 AM
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NewsGator, the developer of social networking and widget services for businesses and consumers, now has an updated version of its iPhone RSS app, NetNewsWire, available in the App Store today. Additionally, a beta version of its desktop RSS reader for the Mac is also currently available. These latest versions of its widely-used RSS reader applications now sync with Google Reader instead of feeds managed through a NewsGator Online account.

Newsgator had announced (http://blogs.newsgator.com/daily/2009/07/newsgator-consumer-rss-reader-product-changes-google-sync.html") the transition to Google Reader synchronization in late July, describing that the transition would be complete by August 31.

The updated NetNewsWire iPhone app syncs quickly with Google Reader and allows users to easily email articles, send them to Instapaper, and post items to Twitter. A free version of the app is ad-supported, while a paid version priced at $1.99 shows no ads.

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Almost a year ago to the day, NewsGator had published stats (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2008/09/23/netnewswire-stats-for-iphone/) on users of its iPhone app. At that time, there were over 200,000 NetNewsWire iPhone users and it's likely that this population has grown in the past year.

The free version of NetNewsWire can be found in the App Store here (http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=284881860&mt=8) and the paid version can be found here (http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=331598976&mt=8) (links open iTunes). The desktop NetNewsWire application for the Mac can be downloaded here (http://www.newsgator.com/individuals/netnewswire/default.aspx), though Newsgator cautions (http://nnwbeta.com/) that this version 3.2b28 is still a beta:

Note: This is still a beta -- it's unfinished, and it has bugs and incomplete features. If you haven't started using a beta yet, you don't need to: you can wait until it's finished.

Article Link: NetNewsWire Updated to Sync with Google Reader (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2009/09/23/netnewswire-updated-to-sync-with-google-reader/)



ejbenjamin
Sep 23, 2009, 12:10 PM
Does the app allow caching of articles, e.g. for reading on the iPod touch when wi-fi isn't accessible?

Not to threadjack, but... do any of the gReader-enabled apps?

neiltc13
Sep 23, 2009, 12:20 PM
Now that this has been spoiled by adverts, what is the best premium Google Reader syncing application for iPhone?

Axegrinder
Sep 23, 2009, 12:28 PM
I can't believe how bad this update is. It's a complete mess. I can't read anything now - all I see are ads!

I too am now looking for a good rss reader for the iPhone - any recommendations?

Compile 'em all
Sep 23, 2009, 12:30 PM
Byline or Newsstand

botsmack
Sep 23, 2009, 12:51 PM
I also have to question this update. I've been using Byline to sync with Google Reader and I really like it. I downloaded the free version of NetNewsWire for the iPhone this morning and there are multiple issues with it. Primarily:

I can't seem to find a way to mark an item "unread".
There doesn't seem to be caching (or proper use of it), because when I go back into an already read article, the pictures have to re-download.
There aren't any advanced settings (that I find) that enable what gets sync'd. How many items? How far back? Etc.
I can only go back a couple of months in the starred items list, with no way to grab more.


Some of these "problems" might just be me. I tried looking for instructions on how to use the app or a FAQ, but I couldn't locate anything. For example, in Byline you swipe an article's entry to mark as read/unread. So, I tried doing that with NetNewsWire, but it didn't work.

I do like the fact that you can browse by individual feeds if you wanted. This is one thing missing from Byline. However, it's not a feature I'm willing to jump ship from Byline for. At this point in time, if you're wanting an app for syncing with Google Reader, I'd recommend Byline. I have no affiliation with them and it's the only offline RSS app I've tried.

SciFrog
Sep 23, 2009, 01:02 PM
This was my most used app.
But I don't want to use Google anything.

Can the new version be used as standalone?

Is there any better alternative that don't use Google?

alexeismertin
Sep 23, 2009, 01:47 PM
I used this app more than anything else on my iphone I cannot comprehend how something so good turns so bad overnight. It has been deleted, so can someone comment on the next best RSS app? (this really makes me mad :mad:)

nutmac
Sep 23, 2009, 02:30 PM
Bad, very bad. I could live with the giant ad, but not all the missing features.

There's no way to hide starred items, see previously read articles, read article expiration timer has been removed, and star button is rather ambiguous. Thank goodness for free Mobile RSS promo few weeks ago.

bobsentell
Sep 23, 2009, 02:31 PM
What the hell? I don't want google. I used this app at least 30 times a day and now it is useless! Google destroys yet another good product.

ob81
Sep 23, 2009, 02:34 PM
I guess sales of Byline will go up. They probably stopped making much money and took the easy way out. NNW is now just another RSS reader that pulls from goolge.

walnuts
Sep 23, 2009, 02:44 PM
I think I found a bug. It appears to have dropped support for the badge count? I had a badge count before updating (894 unread items), and now it is stuck on the old badge count.

generator
Sep 23, 2009, 02:51 PM
This really p*ss*d me off too. I delete NNW and installed Free RSS. Works great, and I can even sync feeds from Google Reader and Newsgator. (though I just imported feeds, and I didn't test if it synced)

bobsentell
Sep 23, 2009, 02:54 PM
I think I found a bug.

I did too. Apparently the makers were under the impression users wanted to use google.

greenbayou
Sep 23, 2009, 03:13 PM
There's a free version of NetNewsWire. It's called Safari + m.google.com/reader

News Feed is a much better app and deserves more news coverage than this app. The developers at News Feed actually ask users for the features they want instead of changing things without asking.

jjm3
Sep 23, 2009, 03:30 PM
This had been one of my most-used apps too, and I really dislike the new update. Google as the source I could live with, I guess, I don't really notice a different there, I'm just bummed that there's no more badge number on the app's icon for unread stories, and that the interface in general is a little cluttered and indistinct (like, before it was a feed name and a number on a line, and now there's all these gradations and zones and in some cases ads... bleh).

MikeStevens
Sep 23, 2009, 03:52 PM
What has happened to NetNewsWire. What's all this Google stuff? Can someone explain. Who do I complain to? I seem to have lost all my RSS feeds.

zacheryjensen
Sep 23, 2009, 03:53 PM
I get those sadfaced about the switch google, but you should know that newsgator's public "cloud" aggregation service NNW used to sync with is going away. Just... so you know.

That said, NNW for iPhone has been a pile of trash for a long time, not just with this update. As someone said, it's now less useful than just hitting m.google.com/reader and if you want an app to interface to that for caching that actually has some half-decent support for google reader specific features (such as adding things to your shared items) then I recommend ByLine as it's rather stable now and hosts fairly complete feature support (though still, I'm baffled about a lack of mark unread!)

botsmack
Sep 23, 2009, 04:01 PM
...then I recommend ByLine as it's rather stable now and hosts fairly complete feature support (though still, I'm baffled about a lack of mark unread!)

I was to when I first started using Byline. You have to swipe your finger to the left/right on the item when viewing the list of feed items. That will mark it read/unread and remove/add the blue dot next to the item letting you know the action was completed.

Compile 'em all
Sep 23, 2009, 04:51 PM
I think I found a bug. It appears to have dropped support for the badge count? I had a badge count before updating (894 unread items), and now it is stuck on the old badge count.

Same problem here.

ob81
Sep 23, 2009, 05:30 PM
What has happened to NetNewsWire. What's all this Google stuff? Can someone explain. Who do I complain to? I seem to have lost all my RSS feeds.


Google reader is a very popular platform. Most people use it. It has more potential since more people want streamlined feeds across desktop, mobile (other desktops/laptops), and phones. The desktop interface may have suffered a lot since the whole social networking of google reader took place. Google reader more than likely has A LOT more users than NNW. People that don't even know what RSS is probably use google reader.

Do the math.

ksmith80209
Sep 23, 2009, 05:38 PM
Wow - I LOVED the previous version of this app and was waiting for quite a while for the latest update. Very disappointed in the new version. Luckily I bought Newsstand the other day and am really enjoying it.

macthak
Sep 23, 2009, 07:14 PM
I can't believe how bad this update is. It's a complete mess. I can't read anything now - all I see are ads!

I too am now looking for a good rss reader for the iPhone - any recommendations?

newsstand is by far the best rss reader on the iPhone

Galley
Sep 23, 2009, 09:37 PM
What has happened to NetNewsWire. What's all this Google stuff? Can someone explain. Who do I complain to? I seem to have lost all my RSS feeds.

They've been sending out e-mails over the past two months about the upcoming change.

apporacle
Sep 24, 2009, 12:49 AM
I donīt get why people complain so much about Google Reader in NNW, it gives people an easy way to switch between RSS readers. I for one is very happy that they standardized the app like this, and I think is has lots of improvements.

SciFrog
Sep 24, 2009, 03:33 AM
You want Google to know your feeds? Good for you. I don't. I refuse to have a company use my data. Ever though why it is free? They have to make money somehow. Same for FaceBook and such.

So what is the best standalone RSS app out there?

str1f3
Sep 25, 2009, 07:33 AM
This is a lousy app. It has no offline caching of articles, it has an odd bug of when I press the back button only the top bar changes but not the web page. That bug was in earlier versions of NNW. About the only difference is support for Instapaper, Tweetie and having a nice icon.

str1f3
Sep 25, 2009, 07:37 AM
You want Google to know your feeds? Good for you. I don't. I refuse to have a company use my data. Ever though why it is free? They have to make money somehow. Same for FaceBook and such.

So what is the best standalone RSS app out there?

I realize that you're not a fan of Google and I'm not that much either but it is your only free choice that you can use on the desktop and iPhone. As I see it, if you want an RSS app thatsync you will have to buy Fever which many people like. It costs about $30 and the iPhone app is free and introduces a new way of reading you RSS feeds.

str1f3
Sep 25, 2009, 07:42 AM
newsstand is by far the best rss reader on the iPhone

Have to disagree with you there. I think Byline is better but only slightly. Newsstand does offer Instapaper and Read it Later support but those features are coming in a future update. I think Byline's minimalist UI is better and Newsstand's paper view is sort of gimmicky since I don't read my feeds widescreen.

But it's all a matter of opinion :)

apporacle
Sep 25, 2009, 09:08 AM
You want Google to know your feeds? Good for you. I don't. I refuse to have a company use my data. Ever though why it is free? They have to make money somehow. Same for FaceBook and such.


There is a huge difference between letting google read your personal mails, look at your photos and scan you harddrive and then know what unimportant news feeds you read.
Caution is always good you there is a difference between beeing cautious and paranoid.

batchtaster
Sep 26, 2009, 04:48 AM
You want Google to know your feeds? Good for you. I don't. I refuse to have a company use my data.

You mean like how Newsgator knew your feeds? You already jumped off this bridge.