AT&T Announces iPhone MMS Launch for 'Late Morning' Pacific Time Friday

[MacRumors]

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AT&T today announced (http://www.facebook.com/ATT?v=feed&story_fbid=138625780868) on its Facebook page that a carrier settings update for MMS on the iPhone will be available in the "late morning" Pacific Time on Friday, the previously-announced (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/09/03/atandt-announces-iphone-mms-launch-date-september-25/) launch date for the service.MMS Update: We know you've been eager for this service so we wanted to offer a quick update on the launch plans for MMS on Friday, Sept. 25. Late morning, Pacific Time, on Friday, the new carrier settings update enabling MMS should be live and ready to download through iTunes. We'll provide the steps and all of the details you need right here at that time.A rumor (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/09/23/atandt-nervous-about-upcoming-iphone-mms-launch/) from earlier today had claimed that AT&T would begin rolling out MMS for the iPhone around 10:00 AM Eastern Time on Friday and that the company was rushing to complete infrastructure improvements to support the expected crush of data upon initial activation from users testing out the service.

Article Link: AT&T Announces iPhone MMS Launch for 'Late Morning' Pacific Time Friday (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/09/23/atandt-announces-iphone-mms-launch-for-late-morning-pacific-time-friday/)

[thegoldenmackid]

iphone.aggie and Unpsoken Demise rejoice...

Network crashes at noon...

[jbennardo]

If late morning is similar to late summer, i'll grab the carrier update at 6PM.

[AreYouIn?]

Well that sucks for those of us on the east coast. If you care about mms as much as some people do. I only send/receive about 15 mms messages a month. Its not that big of a deal to me.

[satcomer]

Late West Coast Time?! Wow living on the East coast makes me a second class tech citizen. When will these damn US tech companies realize that the USA is more than California?

[ziggyonice]

Let's all send an MMS at the same time and see what happens. Maybe we can bring down the entire network.

[MicahFreak82]

Let's all send an MMS at the same time and see what happens. Maybe we can bring down the entire network.

i was really thinking the same thing. hopefully hawaii isn't last to get mms

[intrepid00]

I bet the goal is to keep the school kids away. Since they all get home at diffrent times and time zones are involved you have your rumored roll out in groups.

[cababah]

Late West Coast Time?! Wow living on the East coast makes me a second class tech citizen. When will these damn US tech companies realize that the USA is more than California?

Well Apple is in CA so it has to be the tech HQ of the world ;)

[rdowns]

The time sounds like Apple is responsible for getting it on the iTS.

Shouldn't you all be thinking about what you're going to complain about next? :rolleyes:

[iOrlando]

gone years without it on iphone...why does it matter what specific hour on friday it will be released?

[anjinha]

The time sounds like Apple is responsible for getting it on the iTS.

Shouldn't you all be thinking about what you're going to complain about next? :rolleyes:

*coughtetheringcough*

[macduke]

Haha...let's bring this motha' down!! I can hardly wait for AT&T to epic FAIL all across the board. I'm going to send SO MANY videos. I think everyone who is waiting for the updated file should download as much as possible over 3g. I'm talking about YouTube, radio, uploading to Facebook, and tethering.

Did I fail to mention I don't care much for AT&T??

We must destroy the Death Star!

[redman042]

I'm still holding off on installing OS 3.1 because I want to keep my jailbreak. I have a 3GS. Any word on whether I even need 3.1, since this is a carrier update?

[anjinha]

Haha...let's bring this motha' down!! I can hardly wait for AT&T to epic FAIL all across the board. I'm going to send SO MANY videos. I think everyone who is waiting for the updated file should download as much as possible over 3g. I'm talking about YouTube, radio, uploading to Facebook, and tethering.

Did I fail to mention I don't care much for AT&T??

We must destroy the Death Star!

You know that if people bring AT&T's network down, you're not hurting AT&T at all, you're hurting other users, right?

[SFStateStudent]

Is this the part where everyone with an iPhone collapses from the sheer shock of finally having MMS? If so, then we won't have to worry about the system crashing.....:p

[Ntombi]

I'm still holding off on installing OS 3.1 because I want to keep my jailbreak. I have a 3GS. Any word on whether I even need 3.1, since this is a carrier update?
Like has been said over and over: NO ONE KNOWS.

[mr_matalino]

I'm considering using all my available text messages to send MMS messages that same day, within a few hours. Just because I can.

[AbSoluTc]

Lol, not that I care but you can tell they are buying as much time as they can. :rolleyes:

[nfl46]

My MMS just started working an hr ago!!! finally!!

[1ofthedavids]

If late morning is similar to late summer, i'll grab the carrier update at 6PM.

Haha, I was thinking the same thing, but I think you're giving AT&T more credit than deserved... we'll be lucky if we even see it Friday night.

[rdowns]

Man, I can't wait until Apple and ATT announce an extension of their exclusive agreement. Ah…good times. :D

[Apple Guru]

Haha...let's bring this motha' down!! I can hardly wait for AT&T to epic FAIL all across the board. I'm going to send SO MANY videos. I think everyone who is waiting for the updated file should download as much as possible over 3g. I'm talking about YouTube, radio, uploading to Facebook, and tethering.

Did I fail to mention I don't care much for AT&T??

We must destroy the Death Star!

Then you will be crying if your phone doesn't make any calls. But don't worry you will be hurting AT&T by paying your bill! :D

[mackmgg]

You know that if people bring AT&T's network down, you're not hurting AT&T at all, you're hurting other users, right?

Actually no, cuz wen the network goes down you can call AT&T and get credited like 20 bucks for it. Imaging EVERY AT&T customer getting 20 bucks off the october bill?

Also, "Late Morning" seems to me like "Late Summer" and I will appear "Late Sunday" or so :p

[rtdunham]

Let's all send an MMS at the same time and see what happens. Maybe we can bring down the entire network.

I'll bet you're a pain in the ass on the playground, too. Does the family let you join it at dinner? Grow up!

(ditto to macduke, micahfreak82, mr matalino; sounds like the whole kindergarten class is here)

[roland.g]

Late morning Pacific isn't because Cali is the center of the tech world, it's their way of saying it will be up in the "Morning" because that sounds better, and by choosing Pacific, that buys them as much time as possible. It's akin to saying something is $19.95 when it's really $20.

[Howardchief]

The time sounds like Apple is responsible for getting it on the iTS.

Shouldn't you all be thinking about what you're going to complain about next? :rolleyes:

What to complain about after not having MMS... how about the impending failure of MMS? ;)

[Maclver]

I like how they say

"MMS Update: We know you’ve been eager for this service so we wanted to offer a quick update on the launch plans for MMS on Friday, Sept. 25. Late morning, Pacific Time, on Friday, the new carrier settings update enabling MMS should be live and ready

Should be.... hummmm I think two days away they "should" know whether or not they will be ready!

[spencers]

I've been MMS'ing for over a week now :)

[aduzik]

So at my company, we always deploy new software into production overnight. (Actually, as an international company, we have about a six hour window on Friday nights/Saturday morning when we can deploy things when virtually no one will be working)

Why wouldn't AT&T do the same thing: turn it on when utilization is the lowest? That way usage will ramp up over the course of the day, instead of creating a great big spike in the late morning. This just seems like they don't know what they're doing. Fancy that, AT&T being clueless.

[rdaff292]

I'll prob send 5 out of pure excitement (over nothing) and then never send another one. But added features is always a plus

[anjinha]

Actually no, cuz wen the network goes down you can call AT&T and get credited like 20 bucks for it. Imaging EVERY AT&T customer getting 20 bucks off the october bill?

Also, "Late Morning" seems to me like "Late Summer" and I will appear "Late Sunday" or so :p

So you want to bring the network down, preventing people to make calls and use their phones properly, so that you can get $20? Nice... :rolleyes:

[theamazingkazoo]

What I mean I really don't get why it's taken so long for MMS to come to the iphone in the states. I'm in the UK and had MMS on my 3G since OS3.0.

And I was bemused why my old 1st gen iphone couldn't do it from day one.

Surely AT&T have had other brand phones on there network from day one doing MMS so what makes the iphone any different. It's not bandwidth which I've read about. What makes the iphone so bonkers for doing MMS.

[arkhanjel]

So at my company, we always deploy new software into production overnight. (Actually, as an international company, we have about a six hour window on Friday nights/Saturday morning when we can deploy things when virtually no one will be working)

Why wouldn't AT&T do the same thing: turn it on when utilization is the lowest? That way usage will ramp up over the course of the day, instead of creating a great big spike in the late morning. This just seems like they don't know what they're doing. Fancy that, AT&T being clueless.

Because that would make total sense. And what has AT&T done that makes sense so far??

[Dr.Gargoyle]

I must admit that I just don't get it. MMS is a primitive way to send images. Why introduce MMS now when we have email in the phone. Ok, not all cells have it, but give it year or two... Arn't there better things to spend the money on than MMS?

[NoExpectations]

Man, I can't wait until Apple and ATT announce an extension of their exclusive agreement. Ah…good times. :D

...I bet Apple does extend this contract. Verizon's network won't be ready by mid 2010....and this will allow Apple to keep the high subsidy (cash) flowing in from us (thru AT&T) because of the exclusive deal.

[NoExpectations]

What I mean I really don't get why it's taken so long for MMS to come to the iphone in the states. I'm in the UK and had MMS on my 3G since OS3.0.

And I was bemused why my old 1st gen iphone couldn't do it from day one.

Surely AT&T have had other brand phones on there network from day one doing MMS so what makes the iphone any different. It's not bandwidth which I've read about. What makes the iphone so bonkers for doing MMS.

MMS Text < 1,000 bytes (prob closer to 100)
MMS Picture is around 1,000,000 (or less if compressed)
MMS Video is in the multiple megabits...even for a short clip.

The key here is MMS Video. It represents a exponential burden on the network.

[toneloco2881]

I don't really understand all this vitriol for AT&T. They were the only carrier initially willing to sign off on the iPhone, sight unseen, and have tried their best keeping up with the enormous bandwith consumed by iPhone users.

Any carrier would be under the exact same pressure if they had iPhone users consuming bandwith an order of magnitude greater than other smartphone users. Most people I know with Blackberry and WinMo phones use them to just text, DM, and talk. If people here think if the iPhone was suddenly on Verizon that all the network issues would be immediately rectified, you"re sadly mistaken.

Then you actually have people wanting to try their best to bring down the AT&T network, and use that as justification for why they're incompetent?

Idiots.....

[rhett7660]

If late morning is similar to late summer, i'll grab the carrier update at 6PM.

I was thinking the same thing..............

[rdowns]

I don't really understand all this vitriol for AT&T. They were the only carrier initially willing to sign off on the iPhone, sight unseen, and have tried their best keeping up with the enormous bandwith consumed by iPhone users.

Any carrier would be under the exact same pressure if they had iPhone users consuming bandwith an order of magnitude greater than other smartphone users. Most people I know with Blackberry and WinMo phones use them to just text, DM, and talk. If people here think if the iPhone was suddenly on Verizon that all the network issues would be immediately rectified, you"re sadly mistaken.

Then you actually have people wanting to try their best to bring down the AT&T network, and use that as justification for why their incompetent?

Idiots.....

Well said.

Thankfully, there are still a few of us left. :D

[ViViDboarder]

I'll bet you're a pain in the ass on the playground, too. Does the family let you join it at dinner? Grow up!

(ditto to macduke, micahfreak82, mr matalino; sounds like the whole kindergarten class is here)

Ok Teacher...

Psst... Send an MMS to your friends at exactly 9:37PM Eastern ;)

[joeconvert]

I don't really understand all this vitriol for AT&T. They were the only carrier initially willing to sign off on the iPhone, sight unseen, and have tried their best keeping up with the enormous bandwith consumed by iPhone users.

Any carrier would be under the exact same pressure if they had iPhone users consuming bandwith an order of magnitude greater than other smartphone users. Most people I know with Blackberry and WinMo phones use them to just text, DM, and talk. If people here think if the iPhone was suddenly on Verizon that all the network issues would be immediately rectified, you"re sadly mistaken.

Then you actually have people wanting to try their best to bring down the AT&T network, and use that as justification for why they're incompetent?

Idiots.....

My thoughts exactly, I just get tired of saying it. Thanks!

[gmanist1000]

I bet the goal is to keep the school kids away. Since they all get home at diffrent times and time zones are involved you have your rumored roll out in groups.

I have Friday off, and I know a lot of people in my school have iPhone's.

[Mark Booth]

When you can send media in E-mails, I simply don't understand the clamor for MMS. But two things:

1) I predict the rollout will go smoothly as far as network bandwidth/businesses is concerned.

2) I predict a whole lot of people will be on here whining about problems they are having after installing the new carrier settings! And not problems with MMS either!

Tick-tock!

Mark

[Mark Booth]

I've been MMS'ing for over a week now :)

You are the type of person I am talking about in my #2 above! When you install the "legal" MMS carrier settings, I'm betting those that hacked their iPhones for MMS will be the ones with problems. :)

Mark

[theamazingkazoo]

If it's the video MMS thats the problem.. I still don't buy it.

I had MMS vid on my first 3g phone.. 4 years ago?! when the 3g network in the uk was awful.

If AT&T at offering unlimited data over 3g network like here in the uk then bandwidth cannot be an issue.

The amount of people on iphone hammering youtube concurrently on one cell massively out weighs the bandwidth used by people sending MMS.

bizarre.

[cjmillsnun]

Let's all send an MMS at the same time and see what happens. Maybe we can bring down the entire network.

Well that's very grown up isn't it.

[Mark Booth]

BTW, you guys do realize that the MMS carrier settings upgrade will require firmware 3.1 and iTunes 9, right? :)

Mark

[scottnj1966]

Lets stop worrying about mms now, lets get back to when they are going to get flash.
hahahaha.

[cjmillsnun]

If it's the video MMS thats the problem.. I still don't buy it.

I had MMS vid on my first 3g phone.. 4 years ago?! when the 3g network in the uk was awful.

If AT&T at offering unlimited data over 3g network like here in the uk then bandwidth cannot be an issue.

The amount of people on iphone hammering youtube concurrently on one cell massively out weighs the bandwidth used by people sending MMS.

bizarre.

The difference was there weren't that many 3g users then. I can remember when I signed up for a 3 contract 6 years ago. I was one of 5 people I knew of nationwide who owned a 3g phone. Overall that isn't many.

The difference is that AT&T's network is a hotchpotch compared to our largely high coverage, high volume networks that we have here in the UK. And yet they have a massive userbase that is already overwhelming the limited data capacity of the 3g network. Add in the (admittedly low) extra bandwidth of all those data users having MMS as well and they really are talking critical mass. There are a huge amount of iPhones in the US, and none of the GSM/UTMS networks over there (AT&T/T-Mobile) are up to the job.

All 5 of our networks over here can cope with the load. Unfortunately the better networks in the US use the older CDMA technology, which would preclude Apple selling the iPhone in the rest of the world. Because of that, they had to choose a GSM/UTMS network, and the better of the two (just) is AT&T.

Even an O2 cell (acknowledged as the worst performer on 3g in the UK) has more bandwidth available than a similar AT&T cell.

[satcomer]

What to complain about after not having MMS... how about the impending failure of MMS? ;)

I believe this will how it plays out. Then AT&T will complain about how tjhe iPhone is hurting their piss poor network like they have done it the past (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5yIVgj0VVA&feature=response_watch).

When is Apple going to go with an open iPhone so users can use it on T-Mobile instead?

[anjinha]

BTW, you guys do realize that the MMS carrier settings upgrade will require firmware 3.1 and iTunes 9, right? :)

Mark

How come? MMS is already working for people outside of the U.S. and all it was needed was iTunes 8 and firmware 3.0...

[cjmillsnun]

BTW, you guys do realize that the MMS carrier settings upgrade will require firmware 3.1 and iTunes 9, right? :)

Mark

Why would they?

iPhone OS 3.0 is perfectly capable of MMS. a carrier update includes no encrypted information.

[ob81]

Great news. In order for the update to be early in the east coast, someone would have to wake up early in the morning on the west coast to do it. NORMAL WORKING HOURS. Geez.

[Mark Booth]

How come? MMS is already working for people outside of the U.S. and all it was needed was iTunes 8 and firmware 3.0...

iTunes 9 and firmware 3.1 required! That's my prediction. We'll see tomorrow!

Also, the guy I was replying to (spencers) is in Texas.

Mark

[Lesser Evets]

sexting

[Mark Booth]

Why would they?

iPhone OS 3.0 is perfectly capable of MMS. a carrier update includes no encrypted information.

Why? Because they can! The more folks using iTunes 9, the less folks with a prayer of a chance of syncing a Palm Pre to iTunes. It would be smart for Apple to require iTunes 9 and firmware 3.1 to install the new carrier settings file. Both of those upgrades go a long way toward stopping or slowing down the hacking.

It's what I would do if I was making the call at Apple! :)

Mark

[satcomer]

Well that's very grown up isn't it.

But it is fun to show people how poor of a network and the lying AT&T has done it all it's stupid commercials! Maybe it will even make someone's local news where real reporting MIGHT be still going on (Everyone knows National news just all read AP and spin the news to their "political influence").

[Cartoonkid]

I don't really understand all this vitriol for AT&T. They were the only carrier initially willing to sign off on the iPhone, sight unseen, and have tried their best keeping up with the enormous bandwith consumed by iPhone users.

Any carrier would be under the exact same pressure if they had iPhone users consuming bandwith an order of magnitude greater than other smartphone users. Most people I know with Blackberry and WinMo phones use them to just text, DM, and talk. If people here think if the iPhone was suddenly on Verizon that all the network issues would be immediately rectified, you"re sadly mistaken.

Then you actually have people wanting to try their best to bring down the AT&T network, and use that as justification for why they're incompetent?

Idiots.....

AMEN!

And, honestly, I can't wait for Apple to end the AT&T exclusivity if for no other reason than all the AT&T whiners/haters will jump ship to whatever other carrier gets the nod, and me and the other few people that don't hate AT&T will have the network all to ourselves. :D

[boss1]

I don't really understand all this vitriol for AT&T. They were the only carrier initially willing to sign off on the iPhone, sight unseen, and have tried their best keeping up with the enormous bandwith consumed by iPhone users.

Any carrier would be under the exact same pressure if they had iPhone users consuming bandwith an order of magnitude greater than other smartphone users. Most people I know with Blackberry and WinMo phones use them to just text, DM, and talk. If people here think if the iPhone was suddenly on Verizon that all the network issues would be immediately rectified, you"re sadly mistaken.

Then you actually have people wanting to try their best to bring down the AT&T network, and use that as justification for why they're incompetent?

Idiots.....

Carefull there , you're endangering the stability of the reality distortion field around here.

That said you bring up another good point.

On Friday everyone with an iPhone should MMS videos to Verizon phones. Then we can really guage which network has issues.

[Cartoonkid]

But it is fun to show people how poor of a network and the lying AT&T has done it all it's stupid commercials! Maybe it will even make someone's local news where real reporting MIGHT be still going on (Everyone knows National news just all read AP and spin the news to their "political influence").

If AT&T's network blows so badly, then give up your precious iPhone, get a Crackberry and go elsewhere. Or better yet, go grab yourself a Pre and experience Sprint's pathetic network for as long as you can handle it.

[Andronicus]

I am also one of those "******* children on the playground who's not allowed to eat dinner with the family" and I agree. We should all (everyone with an iPhone) send an mms at the same time & try to crash their network. It's not about the 20 bucks enough it's about the principal of the matter. AT&T has had ample enough time to beef up their network, they knew this was coming. If we crash their network maybe they will double their efforts to provide a reliable network. All AT&T does is brag about how great their network is, don't brag if you can't back it up. I hope you fail AT&T.

[rdowns]

All you great citizens fighting the man for all of us brings tears to my eyes. After you bring down ATT on Friday, let's shoot for ExxonMobil on Monday. Pass the word, don't buy gas from EM on Monday.

I'm busy in Tuesday but would consider McDonald's or Starbucks for Thursday. Let me know.

[satcomer]

If AT&T's network blows so badly, then give up your precious iPhone, get a Crackberry and go elsewhere. Or better yet, go grab yourself a Pre and experience Sprint's pathetic network for as long as you can handle it.

I would but I grew up believing in keeping my word when signing a contract. I want a spotlight on AT&T so actually regular people see how bad their cell network actually is!

AT&T will continue to pay lip service to iPhone Users unless the nation news spotlight their spotty service.

[satcomer]

If AT&T's network blows so badly, then give up your precious iPhone, get a Crackberry and go elsewhere. Or better yet, go grab yourself a Pre and experience Sprint's pathetic network for as long as you can handle it.

By the way why don't you move since California is burning down? :eek:

See I can be sarcastic too.

[Mark Booth]

I'm sure glad I live in San Diego. AT&T's service is FAR from terrible here. Frankly, I had more trouble with Verizon.

That said... it is some of AT&T's other policies that drive me crazy! For one, the decision to not allow the Sling Player app to have access to my Sling Box over 3G. Not that Verizon would act any differently. But, if Verizon were to get the iPhone, I'd switch just to spite AT&T!

Or, better yet, let's have multiple companies with the iPhone! Then we might have some true competition for supported features within the carriers! Imagine that!

Mark

[Andronicus]

By the way why don't you move since California is burning down? :eek:

See I can be sarcastic too.

Well he won't move because the logic givin by the AT&T defenders (any provider of the iPhone would suck as much as AT&T with all the bandwidth iphone users take up, blah blah blah) any state can burn like Cali, so why move?

[Cartoonkid]

I would but I grew up believing in keeping my word when signing a contract. I want a spotlight on AT&T so actually regular people see how bad their cell network actually is!

AT&T will continue to pay lip service to iPhone Users unless the nation news spotlight their spotty service.

Have you tried complaining to AT&T and telling them you want out of your contract? I had similar problems with Cingular about three years ago and they let me out of my contract because there was nothing they could do to fix the problem. Not saying that it will work for you, but if it's really that bad, it's at least worth a try.

And ANY carrier that carries the iPhone will give lip service to iPhone users. Don't be mistaken that AT&T has the exclusive rights to handset-specific marketing.

As far as the news is concerned, do you really think they give a rat's ass about cell service? Short of a nationwide outage (like what happened to Blackberry users when RIMM crashed a couple of years ago), it's not newsworthy. Then again, most of the crap on the "news" nowadays isn't newsworthy...

[Andronicus]

iTunes 9 and firmware 3.1 required! That's my prediction. We'll see tomorrow!

Also, the guy I was replying to (spencers) is in Texas.

Mark

Mr Mark Booth you are so wrong. You will not need to have iTunes 9 or 3.1 to take advantage of MMS. I bet you a thousand internets.

[Cartoonkid]

By the way why don't you move since California is burning down? :eek:

See I can be sarcastic too.

Funny, I don't recall hearing myself bitch about fires in CA, so how was I being sarcastic?

[satcomer]

Funny, I don't recall hearing myself bitch about fires in CA, so how was I being sarcastic?

According to all the "Network News" all of California is burning in a wildfire at least every two months. At the rate the news reports the fires one would think the whole state should be a smoldering ruin.

[Frisco]

Why Apple didn't go with Sprint and the "Now Network" I will never understand.

Now means now--not later.

[Cartoonkid]

I'm sure glad I live in San Diego. AT&T's service is FAR from terrible here. Frankly, I had more trouble with Verizon.

That said... it is some of AT&T's other policies that drive me crazy! For one, the decision to not allow the Sling Player app to have access to my Sling Box over 3G. Not that Verizon would act any differently. But, if Verizon were to get the iPhone, I'd switch just to spite AT&T!

Or, better yet, let's have multiple companies with the iPhone! Then we might have some true competition for supported features within the carriers! Imagine that!

Mark

+1

[satcomer]

Why Apple didn't go with Sprint and the "Now Network" I will never understand.

CDMA=Sprint (at the time)
iPhone=GSM (AT&T uses GSM)

Plus most of the rest of the world uses GSM.

[Cartoonkid]

According to all the "Network News" all of California is burning in a wildfire at least every two months. At the rate the news reports the fires one would think the whole state should be a smoldering ruin.

Just goes to prove how "network news" stations like to sensationalize things for the sake of ratings...as if that's a surprise to anybody. :rolleyes:

[FoxyKaye]

Letting my friends know they can't reach me on Friday. I am sure the regular network will be hell on earth for the rest of us without iPhones. Can't wait to drop ATT, only a few more months left before I'm out of contract. At this point I would only consider an iPhone if it moves to Verizon.

[Aldaris]

Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7C144 Safari/528.16)

It's a matter of principle. I say no one uses MMS until Saturday, at high noon- and then we all give Att a piece. Heck I'm sure Steve Jobs will love AT&T once his service is down too.

[azajohns]

I don't really understand all this vitriol for AT&T. They were the only carrier initially willing to sign off on the iPhone, sight unseen, and have tried their best keeping up with the enormous bandwith consumed by iPhone users.

Any carrier would be under the exact same pressure if they had iPhone users consuming bandwith an order of magnitude greater than other smartphone users. Most people I know with Blackberry and WinMo phones use them to just text, DM, and talk. If people here think if the iPhone was suddenly on Verizon that all the network issues would be immediately rectified, you"re sadly mistaken.

Then you actually have people wanting to try their best to bring down the AT&T network, and use that as justification for why they're incompetent?

Idiots.....

As an outsider looking in, I must say I'm baffled by the seemingly lacking level of enthusiasm that AT&T seem to have regarding their iPhone customers, but even more so the ability of some to defend their actions as reasonable. I'm sure everyone remembers that screen full of carrier logos Apple put up at the announcement of MMS, they were all the carriers of other countries who seemed to have no problem at all 'switching on' MMS the day it was released.

We're lucky enough in my part of the world to have iPhone on multiple carriers, with that comes choice, and competition. All of them scrambling to offer better deals, better service, better coverage. What you have there in the US is a 'monopoly' on the 'iPhone market' (obviously not in a legal sense), but its one service provider with very little incentive to offer anything above the bare minimum.

The sooner Apple ends this 'exclusive agreement' nonsense, the better off you will all be.

[newyorksole]

Ok is it just me or did ANYONE else notice that AT&T said "MMS SHOULD be ready to go"?

I predict that for the whole weekend the entire AT&T network will be down and that some people won't be able to use MMS until next week.

[Cortezbanks]

Late West Coast Time?! Wow living on the East coast makes me a second class tech citizen. When will these damn US tech companies realize that the USA is more than California?

Hold on! There's life outside of California? Who knew?

[xraydoc]

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AT&T network crash = 12:00:01 pm PST

[satcomer]

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AT&T network crash = 12:00:01 pm PST

I predict this too. :p

[Xenu007]

How to transform iPhones into iPod Touchs-- overnight!!

[Mark Booth]

You guys SERIOUSLY overestimate the popularity of MMS! There will be ZERO network problems.

Mark

[carterja]

How to transform iPhones into iPod Touchs-- overnight!!



I think i actually LOL'd at this. good times.
im just still wondering if i need the 3.1 update =(
i konw its been asked, but im still curious. i hear 3.1 is a little buggy, i'd love to just have the mms carrier update.

[tmiw]

You guys SERIOUSLY overestimate the popularity of MMS! There will be ZERO network problems.

Mark

Then why all the nervousness from AT&T? If only a few people use it then they should have nothing to worry about.

[RazHyena]

Enjoy your network crash. :D

[davekarn]

My MMS started working today also, sent a couple pics and a video.

[Mark Booth]

So, put me down for TWO predictions:

1) Apple and AT&T will require iTunes 9 and iPhone firmware 3.1 to be able to install the new MMS-compatible carrier file.

2) Zero network problems due to installing the new MMS-compatible carrier file.

Mark

[cocky jeremy]

So, put me down for TWO predictions:

1) Apple and AT&T will require iTunes 9 and iPhone firmware 3.1 to be able to install the new MMS-compatible carrier file.

2) Zero network problems due to installing the new MMS-compatible carrier file.

Mark

I think you’re wrong on both, but even if Apple “required” 3.1, all it would take is someone posting up the carrier update online then you could install it yourself on 3.0 or 3.0.1 and it’d still work fine. From 3.0 on, the firmware has been MMS ready.

[spencers]

You are the type of person I am talking about in my #2 above! When you install the "legal" MMS carrier settings, I'm betting those that hacked their iPhones for MMS will be the ones with problems. :)

Mark

No, it has been working ever since I upgraded to 3.1. I haven't hacked my phone.

[Chimpy]

Should be interesting to see how well the network holds up...

[tmiw]

Anyway, my prediction for Friday: the places that have had problems...will have more/worse problems. Meanwhile, iPhones in parts of the country that haven't had problems probably will keep working fine, with maybe a bit of slowing.

Also, after the initial euphoria from MMS beginning to work, iPhone users will go back to their normal usage, so the network should be less overloaded. :D

[rtdunham]

Why wouldn't AT&T...turn it on (overnight) when utilization is the lowest? That way usage will ramp up over the course of the day, instead of creating a great big spike in the late morning. This just seems like they don't know what they're doing. Fancy that, AT&T being clueless.

I thought i read that they're going to turn it on in waves, so some people will have it turned on at, say, noon EDT, some at 1 pm, some at 2, etc, spread over perhaps a five or six hour period. I like your company's method, but it would allow everyone to start using it at 9 or whenever a.m., whereas by the method i think ATTs using, maybe 10 or 20% can use it at that hour, another 10 or 20% an hour or two later, etc. Rather than clueless, it seems like a prudent refinement to your company's good approach.

[michael31986]

so late morning pacific means what for eastern?

[mattwolfmatt]

so late morning pacific means what for eastern?

Is this a serious question? Do you know how time zones work?

11am Pacific = 2pm Eastern. I say 11am because, in my book, that is late morning.

I doubt they will flip the switch on for all at once. I think some will get turned on at say 8am Pacific, then 9am, and so on. I think the goal is to have the country done by noon pacific.

Noon pacific = 3pm Eastern.

[rtdunham]

... We should all (everyone with an iPhone) send an mms at the same time & try to crash their network. ...If we crash their network maybe they will double their efforts to provide a reliable network... I hope you fail AT&T.

I understand the frustration with apple and att (remember, they're in this together). I get great service at my home in greater cincinnati and in any number of other places when i travel, and horrible, wholly unsatisfactory service at my home in st petersburg. So I'd like things improved too. My objections to posts like yours, Andronicus, is with the attitude of hoping they fail. It reeks of Rush Limbaugh hoping Obama fails. Unless you're an anarchist, and certainly with situations involving your phone company, for gods' sake, or our president, that's not a position i'd endorse, I'd like to see people advocate for change, not for tearing down. Have the whiners here complained to the FCC? Have they complained to ATT that their service is so bad they should be let out of their contract? I doubt it. It's easy to holler "tear it down," "i hope it fails," "you're ugly I hope you die", but those aren't very mature responses and more importantly they're not very effective. There are more effective things we can--and should--do. End of rant.

Not that Verizon would act any differently. But, if Verizon were to get the iPhone, I'd switch just to spite AT&T!

Go stand in the corner for a while and think about that logic.

[Lopes]

Then why all the nervousness from AT&T? If only a few people use it then they should have nothing to worry about.

They're just managing expectations. They know they're under the microscope from consumers, the blogs, and Apple with how this turns out. So they're painting the worst possible scenario so that when it goes off without a hitch they'll look like they did a really good job being prepared.

I frankly don't expect any problems. In the 2ish years I've own iPhones I think i've have less than 10 people try to MMS me where I get that "viewmymessage" link. And I've rarely had the inclination to send one. Maybe that'll change with the new ability to do so, but I don't expect any issues.

Although I found it really funny that one of the articles reporting this impending MMS-pocolypse said that at&t reported, "...heightened usage at late night hours that strained the network heavily..."

Maybe my mind's in the gutter? Or people have pent up (s)exting needs now that they can mms?

[MDMac]

I'll bet you're a pain in the ass on the playground, too. Does the family let you join it at dinner? Grow up!

(ditto to macduke, micahfreak82, mr matalino; sounds like the whole kindergarten class is here)

Oh come on! Let them have their fun. I doubt they'd actually do nothing but send MMS messages. It's a message board, let them vent if they want.

[electroshock]

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AT&T network crash = 12:00:01 pm PST

Nah. You're about one second too long in your prediction. :D

[BulkHedd]

Every time there is thread about MMS there are always people who pop in just to say "why do you even care about MMS when e-mail is better?"
People get excited when their iPhones can do new things, so what?
And to those people I ask do you use SMS? Why not use e-mail for that? You can send more text that way.

[NoExpectations]

Why Apple didn't go with Sprint and the "Now Network" I will never understand.

Now means now--not later.

I don't think that the 250,000 customers that Sprint keeps losing each quarter agree with you. That's a sign that things are real bad over there.

[electroshock]

And to those people I ask do you use SMS? Why not use e-mail for that? You can send more text that way.

By that general line of reasoning, there's no obvious reason why Twitter would have had ever taken off. :D

[cocky jeremy]

Every time there is thread about MMS there are always people who pop in just to say "why do you even care about MMS when e-mail is better?"
People get excited when their iPhones can do new things, so what?
And to those people I ask do you use SMS? Why not use e-mail for that? You can send more text that way.

I get sick of seeing that, too. Who cares if YOU would rather use email? I WANT MY MMS!!!

[MoFo]

I believe that a lot of people hate AT&T because of how horrible their service is. Just today, in the course of 10 minutes, I had a call dropped 6 times. I called AT&T, and I got "Thank you for being an AT&T customer. Our map shows that you have good service"

I really don't like being lied to. I personally hope that AT&T goes bankrupt.




I don't really understand all this vitriol for AT&T. They were the only carrier initially willing to sign off on the iPhone, sight unseen, and have tried their best keeping up with the enormous bandwith consumed by iPhone users.

Any carrier would be under the exact same pressure if they had iPhone users consuming bandwith an order of magnitude greater than other smartphone users. Most people I know with Blackberry and WinMo phones use them to just text, DM, and talk. If people here think if the iPhone was suddenly on Verizon that all the network issues would be immediately rectified, you"re sadly mistaken.

Then you actually have people wanting to try their best to bring down the AT&T network, and use that as justification for why they're incompetent?

Idiots.....

[LanPhantom]

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Late West Coast Time?! Wow living on the East coast makes me a second class tech citizen. When will these damn US tech companies realize that the USA is more than California?

When is the damn east coast gonna realize that there are other time zone besides EST?!

[satcomer]

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When is the damn east coast gonna realize that there are other time zone besides EST?!

We all do. Have you ever heard of GMT?

[LanPhantom]

We all do. Have you ever heard of GMT?

Greenwich Mean Time? Sure I've heard of it. What's your point?

[LanPhantom]

ATT's network is going to get JACKED for like a month after MMS comes onboard. Everyone and their brother forwarding those retarded MMS messages. I personally can't wait, I'll just sit back and watch the negative news and enjoy.
I have an iPhone but work for VZ. ;-)


I believe that a lot of people hate AT&T because of how horrible their service is. Just today, in the course of 10 minutes, I had a call dropped 6 times. I called AT&T, and I got "Thank you for being an AT&T customer. Our map shows that you have good service"

I really don't like being lied to. I personally hope that AT&T goes bankrupt.

[DustyLBottoms]

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When is the damn east coast gonna realize that there are other time zone besides EST?!

Why bother?

We rule the country here in DC. To the west of us people mine the coal to heat the houses of those who rule the country. To the west of that, people harvest the grain that feed the people who mine the coal to heat the houses of those that rule.

To west of that, people design the ipods that entertain those who harvest the grain that feed the people who mine the coal to heat the houses of those that rule.

So who cares about the time in Cali?

[satcomer]

Greenwich Mean Time? Sure I've heard of it. What's your point?

That all American Companies should use that when using official communications speaking to the whole world about something coming at a certain time.

[LanPhantom]

OK, for a second I got a little bothered by that, then I started laughing.

Nice job, very creative. I understand now. I'm moving to the EAST coast so I can be a part of all that!


Why bother?

We rule the country here in DC. To the west of us people mine the coal to heat the houses of those who rule the country. To the west of that, people harvest the grain that feed the people who mine the coal to heat the houses of those that rule.

To west of that, people design the ipods that entertain those who harvest the grain that feed the people who mine the coal to heat the houses of those that rule.

So who cares about the time in Cali?

[jsanche6]

The new 3G networks just got turned on like 30 mins ago!!!! We finally have 3G at U of I!!!!

[Andronicus]

I understand the frustration with apple and att (remember, they're in this together). I get great service at my home in greater cincinnati and in any number of other places when i travel, and horrible, wholly unsatisfactory service at my home in st petersburg. So I'd like things improved too. My objections to posts like yours, Andronicus, is with the attitude of hoping they fail. It reeks of Rush Limbaugh hoping Obama fails. Unless you're an anarchist, and certainly with situations involving your phone company, for gods' sake, or our president, that's not a position i'd endorse, I'd like to see people advocate for change, not for tearing down. Have the whiners here complained to the FCC? Have they complained to ATT that their service is so bad they should be let out of their contract? I doubt it. It's easy to holler "tear it down," "i hope it fails," "you're ugly I hope you die", but those aren't very mature responses and more importantly they're not very effective. There are more effective things we can--and should--do. End of rant.

You lost me as soon as you compared AT&T to The President of the United States of America:confused:...but maybe you can understand my point of view, which is if AT&T is "torn down" or "fails" or "becomes ugly and dies" (did someone actually say that?) then they will work much more quickly to build a more reliable network and provide the very best service vs doing the bare minimum to get by.

Oh, and please don't compare me to Rush Limbaugh again, it hurt more than you will ever know...

[AidenShaw]

Greenwich Mean Time? Sure I've heard of it. What's your point?

GMT is so old school - it was deprecated more than 35 years ago.

UTC is now the standard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utc

[tmyracle11]

I couldn't remember when the update was coming so I tried to send one tonight and it went through?! Im not sure if my carrier package is modified though, can't remember, but they used to not go through regardless of the mod.

[pounce]

I'll prob send 5 out of pure excitement (over nothing) and then never send another one. But added features is always a plus

ha ha , same plan here i suspect.

[skinnylegs]

We rule the country here in DCCompletely OT but *that* has to be the funniest thing I've read in a long time.

Wake up and join reality. DC is like the armpit of the US. Nobody with any common sense actually lives in DC. Some people commute there because they have to but they get out of there as quick as they can. :cool:

[chr1s60]

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Late morning = 11:59:59 am PST

AT&T network crash = 12:00:01 pm PST

Give AT&T a little credit, they updated the network. 12:01 pm PST.

[vvebsta]

I bet absolutely nothing goes wrong on friday. I bet AT&T is just holding off on MMS for as long as humanly possible because its 'at no extra cost'. They aren't making anymore money on it, why not sit on your hands?

[vvebsta]

Every time there is thread about MMS there are always people who pop in just to say "why do you even care about MMS when e-mail is better?"
People get excited when their iPhones can do new things, so what?
And to those people I ask do you use SMS? Why not use e-mail for that? You can send more text that way.

And my reply would be I DO! I only text people who don't have smartphones, the slackers. ;)

Also I'm a little depressed that we have to wait a another whole year for the next iPhone to come out. 3GS was such a disappointing update. I'm not upgrading till the next one.

[slippery-pete]

iphone.aggie and Unpsoken Demise rejoice...

Network crashes at noon...

Thinking the same

[yg17]

I personally hope that AT&T goes bankrupt.

The 300,000+ people who work for them certainly don't. It's pathetic that you wish ill will on your fellow man just because you have a bone to pick with them. If you hate AT&T that much, pay your $175 ETF and move to a different carrier.

And for all you people on the east coast whining about the time, would you be any happier if AT&T said "early afternoon eastern time"? I'd imagine AT&T relies on Apple to push out the carrier update and Apple of course, is on the west coast.

[mikethebigo]

Call me crazy, but wouldn't it make sense for AT&T to roll MMS out some day other than Friday? The network is already strained more than usual simply due to increased usage, especially at night.

[harry009]

Hello:
Thanks for sharing information AT&T Announces iPhone MMS Launch its great for us. also good carrier settings update for iphone user.

[VSMacOne]

And my reply would be I DO! I only text people who don't have smartphones, the slackers. ;)

Also I'm a little depressed that we have to wait a another whole year for the next iPhone to come out. 3GS was such a disappointing update. I'm not upgrading till the next one.

You're kidding, right? I think the 3GS was golden! They took something that was already proven to be a hit (3G) and made it super fast! All of my friends that have the 3G are jealous and can't wait to be able to upgrade just because of how much faster everything runs on the 3GS.
IMO Apple made a fantastic move with the 3GS. Yes, it could have a front camera and this and that, but overall it is a fantastic machine.
And no, i'm not an Apple fanatic. I just like my toys to be fast :)

[CaryMacGuy]

I predict major AT&T network outages on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and on...I also predict a lot of pissed of AT&T customers leaving and a pissed off Apple looking for another carrier to sell the iPhone with.

I will be leaving when my contract is up (and hopefully Apple will have launched iPhone on Verizon).

[CaryMacGuy]

So you want to bring the network down, preventing people to make calls and use their phones properly, so that you can get $20? Nice... :rolleyes:

YES I DO!!! The reason is I want AT&T to FAIL!!! Death to AT&T

[skinnylegs]

YES I DO!!! The reason is I want AT&T to FAIL!!! Death to AT&TCan't this forum create some sort of minimum IQ test to prevent stuff like this from being posted?

[Loonytik]

YES I DO!!! The reason is I want AT&T to FAIL!!! Death to AT&T

Can't this forum create some sort of minimum IQ test to prevent stuff like this from being posted?

Agreed....

BTW.....MMS Working for me already in Atlanta, GA

[seenett]

Just woke up to MMS working for me in Oregon. Installed the 5.2 carrier file last week and still had the ! until just now.

[eldervovichka]

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AT&T network crash = 12:00:01 pm PST

Maybe this is how Apple gets rid of their AT&T contract! Apple can say "you promised MMS and it was a complete fail now it is time for us to move on!". I know this is only a dream, but one can hope!

Jeff

[None Such]

Agreed....

BTW.....MMS Working for me already in Atlanta, GA

I'm not too far away, Chattanooga, TN. Maybe it starts working for me soon.

Did you have to install some carrier file? How did you notice you had it? Was the option on pictures along with "Email photo, send to mobileme,assign to contact, use as wallpaper"?

[redman042]

You're kidding, right? I think the 3GS was golden! They took something that was already proven to be a hit (3G) and made it super fast! All of my friends that have the 3G are jealous and can't wait to be able to upgrade just because of how much faster everything runs on the 3GS.
IMO Apple made a fantastic move with the 3GS. Yes, it could have a front camera and this and that, but overall it is a fantastic machine.
And no, i'm not an Apple fanatic. I just like my toys to be fast :)

The only people that bash the 3GS as a "mediocre upgrade" are the ones who didn't upgrade. Those of us who did upgrade know just how much of a difference the speed makes.

The 3GS was an interesting play by Apple - it's like a "stealth upgrade". No visible changes on the outside at all, just a few new features on the spec list, but damn, there is SO much more horsepower under the hood. It makes using the iPhone a much more pleasant experience. I never wait for anything now. And I can background apps to my heart's content (on my jailbroken 3GS).

Back to the subject of this thread: I predict iTunes 8 and OS 3.0 users can still upgrade the carrier file. It's just a little config file - I seriously doubt Apple bothered to put hooks in the upgrade process to check all the versions. Besides, MMS was enabled in 3.0, just not for AT&T.

I also think the network overloading is overblown. We may have some hiccups at first, but is MMS used THAT heavily? I realize iPhone videos are much bigger than the average dumbphone MMS, but still. I'm going to continue to use email whenever I can to send stuff, and just go to MMS when the person on the other end has a dumbphone.

[soup4you2]

considering the fact I had just received 2 SMS messages that were sent last Friday (6 day delay?) I can only see this as being a disaster..

[geminidown]

considering the fact I had just received 2 SMS messages that were sent last Friday (6 day delay?) I can only see this as being a disaster..

I've had two SMS delays in the past week, but no delays in MMS. I'm in Los Angeles, and have been sending and receiving MMS for a little over a week now, using the updated carrier file floating around. It's been working pretty well for me, though I am nervous about this weekend. I get full bars of 3G here in LA almost everywhere I go, with an occasional flip over to Edge [3 times max in the past 9 months] but am skeptical over what's going to happen this weekend. LOL!

[satcomer]

considering the fact I had just received 2 SMS messages that were sent last Friday (6 day delay?) I can only see this as being a disaster..

I saw the same thing here in Virginia! It is clues like this that predictions like this WILL be true. Just make sure everyone reports this on a new thread here and then we can all send this to local news organizations. With enough ground swell we can show AT&T that they should spend less money on advertising and more on their spotty network.

[AbSoluTc]

I saw the same thing here in Virginia! It is clues like this that predictions like this WILL be true. Just make sure everyone reports this on a new thread here and then we can all send this to local news organizations. With enough ground swell we can show AT&T that they should spend less money on advertising and more on their spotty network.

Lol. What a hilarious post. News organizations and mms from att? BWAHAHAHAHA! Seriously?

Ugh. This MMS thing has a lot of people all bent doesn't it? Lol.

[binaryskies]

So, AT&T's service is going to be slower then ever friday. Awesome.

Any bets on what time AT&T's network will be "down for maintenance" tomorrow??

[VSMacOne]

So, AT&T's service is going to be slower then ever friday. Awesome.

Any bets on what time AT&T's network will be "down for maintenance" tomorrow??

30 minutes passed "late morning Pacific time" :D

[binaryskies]

30 minutes passed "late morning Pacific time" :D

Haha, now if we only knew when that actually is, because we all know by now that they go by "AT&T Time"..

By the way, I just got a text from AT&T. It will be interesting what their excuse will be now, since they apparently "enhanced my coverage".

http://www.zerominusone.com/att.jpg

[CQd44]

I'm still wondering how MMS would hurt the network more than every single iPhone user streaming youtube at the same time would.

[binaryskies]

I'm still wondering how MMS would hurt the network more than every single iPhone user streaming youtube at the same time would.

Hahah, can you imagine what would happen if everyone who owned an iPhone actually did stream YouTube videos all at once? RIP AT&T. I gotta stop dreaming...

[darbyclash34]

New Orleans working without a hack! The only downside I'm seeing to their implementation is that when you take a photo to use for a one time message it doesn't save to your camera roll. I can see why it wouldn't I would just prefer that it did.

[Kavok]

What I want to know is why some people already have it, while AT&T is saying that it is going to take a carrier update before it will work. Did the people using it now have access to the carrier update early, or did AT&T do some voodoo magic over the cell network and activate their iPhones remotely?

Just wondering.

:confused:

[gmanist1000]

Haha, now if we only knew when that actually is, because we all know by now that they go by "AT&T Time"..

By the way, I just got a text from AT&T. It will be interesting what their excuse will be now, since they apparently "enhanced my coverage".

http://www.zerominusone.com/att.jpg

HOW did you sign up for these messages??

[EMagnusL]

What I want to know is why some people already have it, while AT&T is saying that it is going to take a carrier update before it will work. Did the people using it now have access to the carrier update early, or did AT&T do some voodoo magic over the cell network and activate their iPhones remotely?

Just wondering.

:confused:

I'm wondering that myself, and if an iTunes sync will be necessary. My friend's started working yesterday. He said he received a text from at&t advising him to go into Settings--> Phone--> My Number, then click "Save". He did that and it started working.

[Tvol718]

I love how people are "OMGZ AT&T are gonna DIE!!! FIRE! BuRn!!!"
The entire reason they took so long to roll out MMS is so that wouldnt happen. Besides, lets be honest, the average iPhone user is going to send 1 or 2 MMS right after they update and then return to normal. No one is going to be spamming MMS... People already upload photos to twitter, facebook, myspace, etc. I'm sure AT&T knows what to expect and has taken all necessary precautions and upgrades.

And we all know, that if the iphone had originally been with verizon, the same problems would have happened. NO ONE could have predicted the massive amounts of data that would start flowing from the introduction of one phone.

I rarely send photos, but MMS is a nice feature to have. Gotta love the random hilarious event you may see and wanna send to your friends!

[VSMacOne]

haha i updated to 5.1 a few days ago and MMS still didn't work...
UNTIL TONIGHT!! it just started working for me :) pretty cool

[Blinkwing]

You know that if people bring AT&T's network down, you're not hurting AT&T at all, you're hurting other users, right?

Therefore forcing AT&T to upgrade their shoddy infrastructure that hasn't been upgraded for what, 10 years? :P

[fredrickhstn]

I think AT&T has pulled the wool over everybodys eyes. They have been slowly activating mms accounts for a few weeks,and when tommorrow comes it won't be as big a job as everyone suspects.:cool:

[andy721]

Rushing? THey had all this time to get this accomplished, they better have MMS support for the iPhones or I'm suing or I guess sit back n b*tch about how corrupt att is an will always be along with every other cell phone companies.

[neilgehrke]

OMG The network here just went down! Confirmed with three other friends too!:mad:

[Scooterman1]

According to AT&T Facebook page.... you have to click on Become A Fan to see this:
"AT&T

MMS Update: We know you’ve been eager for this service so we wanted to offer a quick update on the launch plans for MMS on Friday, Sept. 25. Late morning, Pacific Time, on Friday, the new carrier settings update enabling MMS should be live and ready to download through iTunes. We’ll provide the steps and all of the details you need right here at that time.on Wednesday"

If this is correct, guess what people.... we are NO LONGER waiting on AT&T but are waiting on Apple to make it available through iTunes.........

[None Such]

According to AT&T Facebook page.... you have to click on Become A Fan to see this:
"AT&T

MMS Update: We know you’ve been eager for this service so we wanted to offer a quick update on the launch plans for MMS on Friday, Sept. 25. Late morning, Pacific Time, on Friday, the new carrier settings update enabling MMS should be live and ready to download through iTunes. We’ll provide the steps and all of the details you need right here at that time.on Wednesday"

If this is correct, guess what people.... we are NO LONGER waiting on AT&T but are waiting on Apple to make it available through iTunes.........


Then why is it working for some people already(without hacking)? If it's on Apple's end like you suggest.

[Tvol718]

If it's already working, than it's most likely from a hack.

[prominence]

OMG The network here just went down! Confirmed with three other friends too!:mad:

Where is "here"? It's fine here in Columbus, Ohio, but still no MMS either.

[MacDanielG]

Mine just started working without itunes or anything... I just sent a few mms out and everyone is getting them. Florida.

[Dwalls90]

Mine just started working without itunes or anything... I just sent a few mms out and everyone is getting them. Florida.

How is that even possible? ATT may have made it possible to do on the iPhone network, but your iPhone needs to have it's carrier file updated in order to work (assuming you weren't running a custom IPCC file before, in which case MMS would have already been working).

[binaryskies]

HOW did you sign up for these messages??

Haha, I wish I knew. I have never gotten a message like that before, it may be a new service (I'll look into it and PM you if I come up with anything). It really surprised me though. I keep driving around looking for it. Hahah

[cub4bearin]

Mine is working finally. South Bend IN here. It started after 11 am EST. I did not go thru iTunes. But I did have that carrier file downloaded over week ago and installed. But no till now I could send mms. Always got the red mark. I'm just glad waiting is over.

[neilgehrke]

Where is "here"? It's fine here in Columbus, Ohio, but still no MMS either.

NorCal:D

[slapguts]

If late morning is anything like late summer, I'm betting 2pm.

Any takers?

[gmanist1000]

Haha, I wish I knew. I have never gotten a message like that before, it may be a new service (I'll look into it and PM you if I come up with anything). It really surprised me though. I keep driving around looking for it. Hahah

Alright thanks. These messages would be great because I have 1-2 bars upstairs in my house, but if I go downstairs I have No Service. If I got a message like that I'd be so happy!

[azboricua]

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j211/AZBORICUA/Dammit.jpg

:(

[iphoneg33k]

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j211/AZBORICUA/Dammit.jpg

:(

What's up with all this. I haven't seen any update or anything... I guess it's take long for other users to get it.

The version I have is 3.1
Carrier 5.0

Come on AT&T get your ***** together already.

[Peace]

What's up with all this. I haven't seen any update or anything... I guess it's take long for other users to get it.

The version I have is 3.1
Carrier 5.0

Come on AT&T get your ***** together already.

I wouldn't worry. Almost all of the people that say they have MMS downloaded the carrier setting and installed it unofficially.. It'll be out today sometime. More likely in the late afternoon or maybe even this evening.

[vrillusions]

What's up with all this. I haven't seen any update or anything... I guess it's take long for other users to get it.

The version I have is 3.1
Carrier 5.0

Come on AT&T get your ***** together already.

hmm, that brings up an interesting point. People that currently have SMS and didn't do the carrier file hack go to settings > general > about and what does it say for your carrier? If it's "AT&T 5.0" then in theory everyone is ready and some "switch" needs to be turned on for us to see it.

[Rodimus Prime]

What's up with all this. I haven't seen any update or anything... I guess it's take long for other users to get it.

The version I have is 3.1
Carrier 5.0

Come on AT&T get your ***** together already.

I suggest you read what is quoted below. you are waiting on Apple not AT$T

According to AT&T Facebook page.... you have to click on Become A Fan to see this:
"AT&T

MMS Update: We know you’ve been eager for this service so we wanted to offer a quick update on the launch plans for MMS on Friday, Sept. 25. Late morning, Pacific Time, on Friday, the new carrier settings update enabling MMS should be live and ready to download through iTunes. We’ll provide the steps and all of the details you need right here at that time.on Wednesday"

If this is correct, guess what people.... we are NO LONGER waiting on AT&T but are waiting on Apple to make it available through iTunes.........

[ViViDboarder]

I suggest you read what is quoted below. you are waiting on Apple not AT$T

... That is a poor conclusion.

No where does it say "We have given the files to Apple" or "It's all in Apple's hands"

Maybe AT&T is giving it to Apple later today for them to release it.

Maybe AT&T told them what time they wanted Apple to make it available.

You know nothing more than anyone else and we do not know who's "Fault" it is.

I feel it is still justified to blame AT&T since it's their fault it wasn't here with the release of 3.1 as it was in other countries. Also, the fact that they failed to make their End of Summer deadline.

[Peace]

It's here on the west coast.. Open iTunes and download it!!

[EarthDawn]

East coast as well...

its live and the MMS threads are dead :p

[Rodimus Prime]

... That is a poor conclusion.

No where does it say "We have given the files to Apple" or "It's all in Apple's hands"

Maybe AT&T is giving it to Apple later today for them to release it.

Maybe AT&T told them what time they wanted Apple to make it available.

You know nothing more than anyone else and we do not know who's "Fault" it is.

I feel it is still justified to blame AT&T since it's their fault it wasn't here with the release of 3.1 as it was in other countries. Also, the fact that they failed to make their End of Summer deadline.

I still say the 90% of the real blame rest on Apple screwing up back when the first iPhone was release. If apple did not have a stick so far up its ass they would of release the iPhone with MMS on day one.
Instead it took them 2 years to figure out that they screwed up and now are going to give it to everyone.
Sorry but if apple had done it on day one this would not be a mess right now.

[ViViDboarder]

I still say the 90% of the real blame rest on Apple screwing up back when the first iPhone was release. If apple did not have a stick so far up its ass they would of release the iPhone with MMS on day one.
Instead it took them 2 years to figure out that they screwed up and now are going to give it to everyone.
Sorry but if apple had done it on day one this would not be a mess right now.

Oh yea. I was going to mention that too. I forgot. :p Yea, they should have dealt with it YEARS ago and let AT&T gradually upgrade it's system as more people got iPhones.

[infiniteentropy]

Just saw the carrier settings update dialog pop up on clicking "Check for Update" so now I'm testing... yay!

---

Edit: Had to reboot after syncing, then I got the icon. Subsequently sent two MMS's and recieved two... got it out of my system for now :)

Now I can ask my wife, "Is this the scent you wanted?" with pictures while at the supermarket!

[mwg]

I just updated carrier settings, but still no changes... hmmmm

[Peace]

I just updated carrier settings, but still no changes... hmmmm

you have to reboot the iPhone.

[lostprophet894]

I just updated carrier settings, but still no changes... hmmmm

Reboot your phone.

EDIT: Rebooting here.

[lostprophet894]

Haha... Awesome. You rock AT&T.

My first MMS failed. Twice. It doesn't even start to send. Just an immediate red exclamation.

[mwg]

Restarted my iPhone ad it works now. Awesome.

[ViViDboarder]

Just curious... I can't update from an iTunes different than the one with my library on it, right?

I can't plug it into a computer without my phone synced already and update it can I?

[intake66]

Just curious... I can't update from an iTunes different than the one with my library on it, right?

I can't plug it into a computer without my phone synced already and update it can I?

I used my work computer that i don't sync to and it updated the carrier files without any problems. Took about 15 secs and I verified every works.

[ViViDboarder]

I used my work computer that i don't sync to and it updated the carrier files without any problems. Took about 15 secs and I verified every works.

Sweet. I'll have to give it a shot. Just tried but looked like proxy may block it.

[binaryskies]

Installed, Rebooted, and sent first MMS...

It actually works! Either the world is ending today, or everything went pretty smooth for once!:D

Btw.. East Coast (Northern Virginia)

[Mark Booth]

So, put me down for TWO predictions:

1) Apple and AT&T will require iTunes 9 and iPhone firmware 3.1 to be able to install the new MMS-compatible carrier file.

2) Zero network problems due to installing the new MMS-compatible carrier file.

Mark

1) I was wrong about Apple requiring iTunes 9.
2) I was right about Apple requiring firmware 3.1.
3) I'm not seeing any network problems here.

Mark

[intake66]

1) I was wrong about Apple requiring iTunes 9.
2) I was right about Apple requiring firmware 3.1.
3) I'm not seeing any network problems here.

Mark

The first two messages I sent were flawless now there is a little lag. The status bar loads fast and hangs up on the last little bit. I imagine everyone is sending messages to verify it works so I am not surprised by the slow down.

[njl]

no one has received any of my text messages this morning.. :/

[mwg]

I've sent 2 pics. and it worked fine on my end, but the person I sent them to didn't receive them. I'm assuming they need the update, right?

[Mark Booth]

The first two messages I sent were flawless now there is a little lag. The status bar loads fast and hangs up on the last little bit. I imagine everyone is sending messages to verify it works so I am not surprised by the slow down.

I'm not experiencing any delay or lag that is any different than sending a regular SMS message. Mine always have a tiny bit of lag at the end of the sending bar.

Mark

[sfh]

Late West Coast Time?! Wow living on the East coast makes me a second class tech citizen. When will these damn US tech companies realize that the USA is more than California?

yes AAMOF it does ... especially since you can't figure out that the rest of the country gets it at the same time equally

[twoodcc]

'late morning' is better than just saying 'friday' i guess. but it seems that they came thru today though anyways

[Target362]

'late morning' is better than just saying 'friday' i guess. but it seems that they came thru today though anyways

Yeah, you psoted this yesterday, so it did come though on the day they said it would :rolleyes: