i like everyone's personal websites [Archive]

jefhatfield

Jul 18, 2002, 01:20 PM

i looked at ambitious lemon's site, hemingray's, rower_cpu's, ensign paris', krossfyter's and many others

i only have microsoft front page 2000 and i have a few simple websites from yahoo but they are too basic looking

what software programs do you people use for your great looking sites?

job

Jul 18, 2002, 01:31 PM

I know a lot of people use Bbedit and GoLive.

I just use Bbedit. :)
And Blogger.com. :rolleyes:

theranch

Jul 18, 2002, 02:03 PM

I use...
DreamweaverMX (in code view)
FlashMX
Photoshop for graphics
FireworksMX for basic graphics and slicing

edesignuk

Jul 18, 2002, 02:06 PM

I use...

Dreamweaver MX & Photoshop 7 mostly, with a little bit of Flash MX here and there ;)

Mr. Anderson

Jul 18, 2002, 02:11 PM

jef, i'm so dissapointed you didn't mention my site.....;)

but anyway, I use GoLive, been using it since v 2.0 - haven't gotten around to getting 6 yet, hopefully soon.

D

iGav

Jul 18, 2002, 02:31 PM

GoLive 6 totally rules.......
BBEdit for the necessary clean up that WYSIWYG generators spurt out on the odd occasions........

Very occasionally Flash....... although I'm now using LiveMotion.......
And lot's of Shockwave content........

When things get really heavy I get a developer in.........

sneed

Jul 18, 2002, 02:39 PM

BBedit is the way to go for HTML, JavaScript, etc. If you aren't too comfortable with HTML, JavaScript, etc., I would suggest Dreamweaver, or better yet a couple of O'Reilly mans. :)

Beyond BBedit,
I use Photoshop, ImageReady, Illustrator (old habits die hard,) for most graphic elements.

When I'm feeling daffy, I'll use Flash, Director, After Effects, Media Cleaner, or anything else that I can get my hands on.

If I am feeling really daffy, I'll whip out the QTVR studio.

I think the thing to remember though is that having a strong idea is the key. There are a lot of great looking sites out there with nothing to say other than someone has way too much free time. If you have something to say, frontpage should probably do the trick.

What was the question again?

drastik

Jul 18, 2002, 03:24 PM

I'm still at Dreamweaver 4, but I love it even if it runs in classic, I'd like to upgrade, but I got the whole studio setup and only Freehand wouldn't need an X upgrade, so screw it.

PS, My site is rough looking right now as I have been ignoring it for a little while;)

Moxiemike

Jul 18, 2002, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by dukestreet
jef, i'm so dissapointed you didn't mention my site.....;)

but anyway, I use GoLive, been using it since v 2.0 - haven't gotten around to getting 6 yet, hopefully soon.

D

I'm also disappointed i didn't egt a mention! :)

Fireworks MX
Dreamweaver MX
Photoshop 7
Illustrator 10

Durandal7

Jul 18, 2002, 04:14 PM

I use Photoshop, BBedit, Imageready and that Pagemill program a bit.
Give jef a break, what was he going to do? Mention all 2000 members with a website.

Moxiemike

Jul 18, 2002, 04:19 PM

Durandal7

Jul 18, 2002, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by Moxiemike

I was joking. Should have put a bucnh of ;)'s after

I was joking too. It just seemed like everyone wanted a mention by the legendary jefhatfield.

jefhatfield

Jul 18, 2002, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by asurace
I use Photoshop, BBedit, Imageready and that Pagemill program a bit.
Give jef a break, what was he going to do? Mention all 2000 members with a website.

oh yeah, and that flossing site;)

sounds like dreamweaver, golive, and bbedit sound like very popular titles so far

but what the heck is bbedit and who makes it? i hear people spout the name but i have never seen it in stores

i may put a link to my pathetic yahoo free site (the one you make in five minutes...more like 2 hours)...the info is interesting but there are no images i use outside of the provided clip art and the digital camera i have is very poor for that type of stuff

but i am not one for too many graphics or photos since that's what all the pros tell me is the first mistake of a beginner like me...to load the site with pictures and have no content;)

Mr. Anderson

Jul 18, 2002, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by asurace

I was joking too. It just seemed like everyone wanted a mention by the legendary jefhatfield.

oooh, don't say that, it will just go to his head.....:D

job

Jul 18, 2002, 04:29 PM

Bbedit is a pretty robust HTML/word processing program. Think TextEdit with b@lls. :D

They make a "lite" version that is free. I'm not sure what the URL is though.......

sneed

Jul 18, 2002, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by jefhatfield

but what the heck is bbedit and who makes it? i hear people spout the name but i have never seen it in stores

Barebones software (The BB in BBedit.) You can buy it separately, or it used to come with Dreamweaver I think, it may still. You should be able to find BBedit through macmall in any case.

Durandal7

Jul 18, 2002, 04:36 PM

jef, just out of curiosity, what sort of things are you going to put on your website?

As for BBedit check out http://barebones.com/products/bbedit.html

jefhatfield

Jul 18, 2002, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by asurace
jef, just out of curiosity, what sort of things are you going to put on your website?

As for BBedit check out http://barebones.com/products/bbedit.html

thanks for the info!

my websites, now on yahoo, have info on model boat building, guitar collecting, a bit on computers, a proposed comedy page, and a wine tasting page...all really pretty trivial stuff;)

i just want to make something a little more pleasing to the eye

jefhatfield

Jul 18, 2002, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by dukestreet

oooh, don't say that, it will just go to his head.....:D

oh, then i am a macrumors legend like spikey;)

cleo

Jul 18, 2002, 10:44 PM

Well, I guess I might as well jump on the "everbody go look at my homepage" bandwagon. :D Mine's at <http://www.dalqe.com/>. I use straight-up BBEdit and Photoshop. I have GoLive, but I find it too damned clunky for my needs. Plus, I don't have PHP installed on my machine, so I like that I can save my work directly to my host's server from BBEdit.

Anyway, let me know what you think of it. :)

King Cobra

Jul 18, 2002, 10:55 PM

>oh, then i am a macrumors legend like spikey;)

A very horny one at that! :eek:

cleo, excellent site. It loads lightning fast on Mozilla with dial-up. It doesn't have all the fascinating graphics of a professional web page, but this is a terrific start. Keep rollin'. :cool:

cleo

Jul 18, 2002, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by King Cobra

cleo, excellent site. It loads lightning fast on Mozilla with dial-up. It doesn't have all the fascinating graphics of a professional web page, but this is a terrific start. Keep rollin'. :cool:

Thanks, KC! :D I'm actually not a huge fan of graphic-intensive personal sites. Many of my friends and family are using AOHell to dial-up, and I'd rather they spend their time on the content rather than fancy graphics.

That, and I'm still trying to figure Photoshop out. :D

G4scott

Jul 19, 2002, 12:00 AM

I'm not sure if you saw a website that I made, that is similar to mine. My website isn't online right now. I took it down for updating, and other stuff, but you can see my Boy Scout troop's website at http://homepage.mac.com/g4scott .

I just used text edit, iPhoto (for the photo galleries) and I borrowed someone photoshop machine for some of the graphics

Just a question... Does the shadow around the sidebar format correctly in your browser?

Oh, and yes, I did notice that the index.html page doesn't have the </body> and </html> tags at the end... Gotta go fix it now...

mac15

Jul 19, 2002, 12:02 AM

jef, what about mine, I haven't done mine in a while

dreamweaver make things backwards and is not for begginners
golive is much better

pgwalsh

Jul 19, 2002, 12:05 AM

I use GoLive, PhotoShop, Illustrator and LiveMotion. Think I'm and Adobe man? However, I'm not much of a designer. My new partner is and she uses the same tools along with InDesign 2.0 There be an update soon.

GoLive is a great wysiwyg editor, but it has a steeper learning curve than DreamWeaver. I prefer GoLive, but I may be bias because my sister works for Adobe.

Durandal7

Jul 19, 2002, 12:06 AM

Nice site cleo. It's crisp and energy efficient, that's how I like em. Expect a lot of hits now that you mentioned, after my thread asking people about webcounters my site started averaging 20 unique visitors a day. (Which is good considering theres nothing that great on it.)

Choppaface

Jul 19, 2002, 02:40 AM

golive, illustrator, photoshop, flash, and bbedit (for php). dreamweaver looks like a great app, but I already know golive pretty well so I'm sticking to it.

jefhatfield

Jul 19, 2002, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by mac15
jef, what about mine, I haven't done mine in a while

dreamweaver make things backwards and is not for begginners
golive is much better

how did you do that blue fire effect on your art link?

i like it and was wondering if that could be done with photoshop, which i have, from scratch, or can you scan an image and put filters on it later?

right now, i just modify scanned images

jefhatfield

Jul 19, 2002, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by Moxiemike

I'm also disappointed i didn't egt a mention! :)

Fireworks MX
Dreamweaver MX
Photoshop 7
Illustrator 10

moxie,

that is one of the best logos i have seen on the net

my wife used to do a lot of corporate identity stuff in new york in the 80s and it's amazing how much attention goes into trying to come up with a good logo

you can make t-shirts and sell them...japan is an especially hot market for logo t-shirts in english

Rower_CPU

Jul 19, 2002, 02:36 PM

I use the standard combo of Photoshop/Imageready + Dreamweaver ... and BBEdit Lite when the need arises.

I just got GoLive6 in the Adobe Web Design Suite so I'll be trying that...

I mess around with Flash as well, but my site right now is just dedicated to CSS layout practice.:)

cleo

Jul 19, 2002, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
my site right now is just dedicated to CSS layout practice.:)

I've been doing a bit of CSS layout, too, and man is it frustrating! No two browers seem to display things even remotely the same, and unfortunately, my broswer of choice (OW) seems to be the worst of the bunch. Ugh! :mad:

pgwalsh

Jul 19, 2002, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
I just got GoLive6 in the Adobe Web Design Suite so I'll be trying that...

There's a steeper learning curve with GoLive, but I think you'll like it if you give it some time. It took me a while to get used to it when switing from DreamWeaver 3 to GoLive 4. I think you'll like the SmartObjects, templates and components. Components are great for navigation menus and head graphics etc. The SmartObjects could be a little smarter when dealing with layered rollovers, which you can't really use, but you'll know what I mean soon enough.

No more saving for web and importing PhotoShop images. Nice.

Rower_CPU

Jul 19, 2002, 02:56 PM

cleo:
There are lots of great resources out there for learning CSS, and seeing how the various browsers support it.

One of my favorites is at MacEdition.com, by the CodeBitch:
http://www.macedition.com/cb/ (scroll down to bottom)

I have some more links somewhere...if you're interested.:)

pgwalsh:
I'm definitely looking forward to learning GoLive. I'm very familiar with Dreamweaver, so the toughest part will be getting used to the new interface, etc.

Anyone have LiveMotion experience as it relates to Flash?

Rower_CPU

Jul 19, 2002, 03:01 PM

PS. My CSS code is posted on my site in the "Code" section (duh), if you want to see how it works or adapt any to your own site.:D

pgwalsh

Jul 19, 2002, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by cleo
No two browers seem to display things even remotely the same
You have a few choices. You can either make two CSS one for NN and one for IE. The second choice is to use pixels for your measurements and text. If your using boxes, you have to use a full box for NN 4.0 browser etc. When formatting tables make sure you do it in the parent tr. But CSS is the way to go for sure. Netscape doesn't have great support for borders etc, but you can use curved, dotted, and solid boxes. NN won't display partial boxes so make the choice if that matter to you or not.

If your having issues with tables collapsing in one browser or the other, just play with absolute widths and percentages. Sometimes you can fix certain issues with embedded tables.

For colors I would use the CSS list and not the original html color scheme. You'll find it easier to match and a better variety (in my opinion).

This is just a brief. I have much more specific information, but can't pull it out of my head right now. I'm having server issues.

pgwalsh

Jul 19, 2002, 03:04 PM

Here is a fun little site I did for my sister.

http://www.markandtara.com

It's a work in progress.

Moxiemike

Jul 19, 2002, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by jefhatfield

moxie,

that is one of the best logos i have seen on the net

my wife used to do a lot of corporate identity stuff in new york in the 80s and it's amazing how much attention goes into trying to come up with a good logo

you can make t-shirts and sell them...japan is an especially hot market for logo t-shirts in english

Hmmm. I might have to do that! :) the logo was a mistake, actually. I clicked th wrong tool in AI and bam, there it was. :)

my biz cards are diecut to that shape and double sided. :) i think it works well. Thanks for the props. :)

m

Choppaface

Jul 19, 2002, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by cleo

I've been doing a bit of CSS layout, too, and man is it frustrating! No two browers seem to display things even remotely the same, and unfortunately, my broswer of choice (OW) seems to be the worst of the bunch. Ugh! :mad:

I've got the o'reilly CSS handbook and most of it is about what browsers support what. great little pocketbook.
and depending on who your target audience is, it's usually best to preview stuff in IE, since that's what most of the web uses.

King Cobra

Jul 19, 2002, 04:15 PM

>http://www.markandtara.com

That isn't too bad. Honestly though, I think there is a bit too much blue on the site. And I am rather holding back on accepting your main logo on the top, where you have white script text on one side of the blue figure and then a rather overprominent black on the other side. If someone were to print that out, I think that the heavy blue with black wouldn't look so attractive, especially with that font.

On the other hand, the site and images load pretty fast. It's plain and simple. That's not too bad for a start. :cool:

Hemingray

Jul 20, 2002, 01:19 AM

Hey jef, thanks for the mention. :) I'm a bit late to join this thread, I know...

Hemingray.info is really just a "web presence" for my hobby. My real serious site is http://www.songofthesouth.net . For those of you who don't know what Song of the South is, it's the Walt Disney movie that Disney tries to hide because some people consider it "offensive". Some of you may know that the Splash Mountain ride is based upon part of that movie. The site started out as more of a hobby, but over the years it's turned into more of an awareness mission because of so many people looking for answers about this film... okay, that's enough. :)

For the record, I use GoLive 6 and I'll swear by it!

mac15

Jul 20, 2002, 01:33 AM

Originally posted by jefhatfield

how did you do that blue fire effect on your art link?

i like it and was wondering if that could be done with photoshop, which i have, from scratch, or can you scan an image and put filters on it later?

right now, i just modify scanned images

well I used eyecandy 4000 and used the drips effect and kept doing it until I got the shape and then added the colour, pretty easy.......

any probs aim me or pm email whichever

Rower_CPU

Jul 20, 2002, 03:47 AM

Nice work, Hemingray!

It's a very clean layout, and that gradient looks great!

Hemingray

Jul 20, 2002, 04:22 AM

Hey, thank you very much Rower_CPU! I'm glad you like it. :)

As you can see from my design history page (http://www.songofthesouth.net/about/oldsites/index.html), it took me a few years to settle on a design I liked. If only we had this much time to decide on a site design for our clients! :D

Wes

Jul 20, 2002, 05:41 AM

This is my new site, it's just the basic layout. Megaquad and Phire (I think) told me to get livemotion 2 and this is what I've made. www.tyui.com ,feel free to mail me wlb@MAC.com

Thanx for any comments

Mr. Anderson

Jul 20, 2002, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by W-_-W
This is my new site, it's just the basic layout. Megaquad and Phire (I think) told me to get livemotion 2 and this is what I've made. www.tyui.com

Your link didn't work because of the ',' if you put inline addresses you need to make sure it has a space around it. The link above has been edited.

D

Wes

Jul 20, 2002, 01:28 PM

Dukestreet, it was early in the mornign, well I'll change it.

Mr. Anderson

Jul 20, 2002, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by W-_-W
Dukestreet, it was early in the mornign, well I'll change it.

hey not a problem, I wasn't trying to get on your case. I had thought of going in and changing it myself, but figured it might be something to let everyone know about, that's all.

nice little site, btw, let us know when you get more than links uploaded.

D