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MacRumors
Jul 13, 2004, 06:26 PM
According to reports, the first of the dual 2.5GHz PowerMacs have begun shipping and demo units can already be found at some retailers.

Apple first announced the Dual 2.5GHz PowerMacs (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/06/20040609083915.shtml) in June but initial estimates expected units to ship in late July.

Aside from some early Cinebench benchmarks (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2004/07/20040702194153.shtml) there have not been many hands on reports of the new top end PowerMac.

Photo of the inside (http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/inside25g5.jpg) of one of the new 2.5GHz G5s.



crazzyeddie
Jul 13, 2004, 06:28 PM
Awesome. How about Apple Stores? Are they there yet?

macridah
Jul 13, 2004, 06:32 PM
oh man, i gotta check out that liquid cooled technology ... and while I'm at it, see if the 2.5's are using 10.3.5.

on my way to an apple store.

mnstr_trd_sd
Jul 13, 2004, 06:36 PM
oh joy!!!! :p

I've waited so long, and now it finally ships. Good thing I paid for overnight shipping :D


Get a load of that radiator..whoohoo :p


i'll keep you all posted

Dr. Dastardly
Jul 13, 2004, 06:41 PM
I've been dying to scope out the inside of the 2.5 to check out the new liquid technology and to see how quite these run!

Drool

musicpyrite
Jul 13, 2004, 06:43 PM
Apples on a role today with releces!

Trowaman
Jul 13, 2004, 06:50 PM
3 for 3 today. BTW, anyone know when Motion started shipping? I never saw it on this site.

mactarkus
Jul 13, 2004, 06:52 PM
I guess I'll have to grin and bear it for another month since my 2.5GHz G5 awaits it's video card. :(

The Bartender
Jul 13, 2004, 06:53 PM
oh man, i gotta check out that liquid cooled technology ... and while I'm at it, see if the 2.5's are using 10.3.5.

on my way to an apple store.

They run 10.3.4

mnstr_trd_sd
Jul 13, 2004, 06:57 PM
damn!!!! i gotta wait too...i forgot about the video card... :mad:



what else shipped today besides the monitor and the new g5's

FreeState
Jul 13, 2004, 07:00 PM
damn!!!! i gotta wait too...i forgot about the video card... :mad:



what else shipped today besides the monitor and the new g5's

Airport Express

Chip NoVaMac
Jul 13, 2004, 07:03 PM
They run 10.3.4

You've seen a G5 2.5D in a store? Rumors were they were going to ship with 10.3.5, is why I am asking.

Freg3000
Jul 13, 2004, 07:03 PM
Airport Express

And some of the displays.

crees!
Jul 13, 2004, 07:04 PM
I've been dying to scope out the inside of the 2.5... to see how quite these run!

Drool I'm sure they run quite well ;)

invaLPsion
Jul 13, 2004, 07:15 PM
Well I ordered at 9:04 on June 9th and mine hasn't shipped. :mad:

Has anyone's BTO shipped yet?

iriejedi
Jul 13, 2004, 07:18 PM
But anyone think it would be worth adding the 23inch display WITH a 6800 card - I mean after spending all that money a normal monitor would sorta be a waste?



damn!!!! i gotta wait too...i forgot about the video card... :mad:



what else shipped today besides the monitor and the new g5's

virividox
Jul 13, 2004, 07:22 PM
i went to my local retaileer the other day they wnt be getting their demo unit for some time damn

mnstr_trd_sd
Jul 13, 2004, 07:24 PM
One thing puzzles me... My order status does not signify my g5 shipped. It could be because of the card but, can't they just ship it out and the card later.


sad sad day :(

Oh well :p

Now I could go shopping for more ram! :D

mnstr_trd_sd
Jul 13, 2004, 07:39 PM
does anyone know if they are shipping with 10.3.5?

at least that's what the rumor is isn't it?

dcr8
Jul 13, 2004, 07:39 PM
3 for 3 today. BTW, anyone know when Motion started shipping? I never saw it on this site.

I don't think it is shipping yet... at least you can't buy it from the Apple store and the Motion pages still say "this summer"

nagromme
Jul 13, 2004, 07:40 PM
But anyone think it would be worth adding the 23inch display WITH a 6800 card - I mean after spending all that money a normal monitor would sorta be a waste?

That Nvidia 6800 Ultra board is an AMAZING GPU, a generational leap. Yes it can drive two 30" displays, but that's not what you're paying for when you pay the $450 to upgrade to a 6800 Ultra. You're paying for a LOT of graphics power on ANY display.

JCT
Jul 13, 2004, 07:41 PM
Jim,

What's your impression of the "real-world" performance of the dual 2.5 ?

Noise levels?

JT

mnstr_trd_sd
Jul 13, 2004, 07:45 PM
Jim,

What's your impression of the "real-world" performance of the dual 2.5 ?

Noise levels?

JT


i hope so, they say that the new cooling system should significantly reduce fan noise. Although, I work with a dual 2.0 at work and it really isn't that noisy.

jimsowden
Jul 13, 2004, 07:47 PM
n/a

joco
Jul 13, 2004, 07:54 PM
Has anyone confirmed this rumor??? Because I just called Apple and they said that NONE of the dual 2.5's shipped yet and they are not expected to ship until July 30.

Any ideas?

thedogcow
Jul 13, 2004, 08:01 PM
Has anyone confirmed this rumor??? Because I just called Apple and they said that NONE of the dual 2.5's shipped yet and they are not expected to ship until July 30.

Any ideas?


I remain dubious to the shipment of CPUs in large quantities at this moment.

Obviously shipment is a function of when you ordered and if your payment transaction is accepted in addition to product quanitity.

I would like my new G5.

I need a faster cpu for Mathematica. Right now it would be nice to solve these nonhomogeneous partial differential Bessel functions so I can precisely see the nondispersive wave propagation of a circle. My poor little G4 takes a while to compute the associated Eigenvalues.

Que Sera Sera

Phat_Pat
Jul 13, 2004, 08:07 PM
Whats the new card run at?

256 or 128?

itsa
Jul 13, 2004, 08:35 PM
I called the online Apple store today and they said that is not true.
They will not see anything untill at least the 27th, and I wont see my overnight order untill the 29th or 30th. If not then I will need to wait for that following Monday.
I hope it is true.. but not looking good.

thedogcow
Jul 13, 2004, 08:52 PM
I called the online Apple store today and they said that is not true.
They will not see anything untill at least the 27th, and I wont see my overnight order untill the 29th or 30th. If not then I will need to wait for that following Monday.
I hope it is true.. but not looking good.

I agree.

A few stragglers might have their cpus but the majority will probably not be shipped out til the end of the month. I've been with Apple since the late 1980s and they usually stick to their posted ship dates or later.

The Bartender
Jul 13, 2004, 09:01 PM
You've seen a G5 2.5D in a store? Rumors were they were going to ship with 10.3.5, is why I am asking.

It is stated on the home page... I'll be seeing for myself soon anyway.

AnewMac
Jul 13, 2004, 09:09 PM
I am excited about all of the releases. My dual 2 has finally shipped after a long two weeks! :)

dizastor
Jul 13, 2004, 09:20 PM
Apple is great, they take something messy and cumbersome like liquid cooling and they pack it into a slick aluminum case to make it sexy. I suppose by now I shouldn't be surprised.

itsa
Jul 13, 2004, 09:27 PM
If you order today, you have a 4 to 6 week wait.

jimsowden
Jul 13, 2004, 09:27 PM
n/a

itsa
Jul 13, 2004, 09:30 PM
I have to say, apple is weird when it comes to releases. We sh*tted our pants when these came, so we called apple and they said not a single unit was shipped yet. So the 2 dual 2.5s we and use have don't exist.

That must mean you have more on the way.. :0)

neoelectronaut
Jul 13, 2004, 09:30 PM
Whats the new card run at?

256 or 128?

256MB, and nagromme's right, even though you won't be using a 30" display, the new Nvidia card is a really powerful sucker. A must if you plan on picking up Doom III in the future. :P

...well, or if you're a 3D modeler of any sort too, I guess....

fred815
Jul 13, 2004, 09:45 PM
are there any pictures of the actual heat-pipes?

JohnnyTwoToes
Jul 13, 2004, 09:53 PM
i'm doubtful that this is true. who would be the ones getting their machines? i ordered mine the day of release and nothing has changed in my order status. i'm not necessarily expecting to be one of the first to get one, just curious as to WHO is actually getting them if this claim is true.

clr900
Jul 13, 2004, 10:06 PM
I plan on ordering my dual 2.5 with the geforce 6800 ultra, but I'm not planning on ordering it until like the end of July. Will the shipping times be normal by then? Or is it going to be be another month even from then. If it is then I should probably try to order it sooner. This thing is gonna be amazing regardless.

w00tmaster
Jul 13, 2004, 10:06 PM
that I ordered 2 weeks ago....

JohnnyTwoToes
Jul 13, 2004, 10:09 PM
I plan on ordering my dual 2.5 with the geforce 6800 ultra, but I'm not planning on ordering it until like the end of July. Will the shipping times be normal by then? Or is it going to be be another month even from then. If it is then I should probably try to order it sooner. This thing is gonna be amazing regardless.


the 2.5 may have a shorter wait? i wouldnt hold out for the 6800 though, other posts on the forums and apple.com have systems with that card in them stated at 8/31 - 9/3 (so i've read and saw on apple). check for yourself. the card is what is going to hold you up. if the 2.5 status changes and you need the system order one with the stock card and then just upgrade to the 6800 when it becomes more widely available.

smoke it down: www.waltzillustration.com

Arodweb
Jul 13, 2004, 10:22 PM
I placed my order for a dual 2.5 on june the 15th, I can't wait to get it !! :eek:

Chip NoVaMac
Jul 13, 2004, 10:23 PM
I have to say, apple is weird when it comes to releases. We sh*tted our pants when these came, so we called apple and they said not a single unit was shipped yet. So the 2 dual 2.5s we and use have don't exist.

So I guess you will be getting two more? If so can I have one please? :)

Soire
Jul 13, 2004, 10:26 PM
I'll believe they're shipping when more people weigh in with shipped orders. I wonder if this is all due to the revelation that Jim has two of them at work.

Overall though, I am glad we didn't learn that the 2.5s arrived 2 weeks ago, or else the last two weeks would have been hell.. which is to say the next two weeks may be pretty bad if my BTO doesn't really ship till 8/02... :(

J_Berg
Jul 13, 2004, 10:33 PM
My CDW rep keeps saying that their first shipment of 2.5's is the 17th, and I am in that first shipment. (thats what it says on his system!)

what do you think? Anyone taking bets? :)

Arodweb
Jul 13, 2004, 10:34 PM
My CDW rep keeps saying that their first shipment of 2.5's is the 17th, and I am in that first shipment. (thats what it says on his system!)

what do you think? Anyone taking bets? :)

when did you place your order?? :confused:
lucky bastard !! :eek:

JohnnyTwoToes
Jul 13, 2004, 10:35 PM
My CDW rep keeps saying that their first shipment of 2.5's is the 17th, and I am in that first shipment. (thats what it says on his system!)

what do you think? Anyone taking bets? :)


i think at this point i'd willingly give up atleast one....maybe both...of my testicles just to have the release of getting the machine (or just KNOWING when it will come). the anticipation is so bad for my heart.

J_Berg
Jul 13, 2004, 10:40 PM
when did you place your order?? :confused:
lucky bastard !! :eek:

Ordered it the day they were announced, what were YOU waiting for? :rolleyes:

It's not BTO, but CDW is adding 3 gigs of ram. We'll see how long that takes them.

weezer160
Jul 13, 2004, 10:42 PM
all you guys (and gals) are lucky for ordering g5s! :cool:

Duff-Man
Jul 13, 2004, 10:45 PM
Duff-Man says...I am #2 in line at the reseller that I have my order with here in Canada...when I start to see some other confirmations of shipping then maybe I'll give them a call for an updated ETA but if it is just one order that snuck out then I'll hang tight, somewhat patiently....oh yeah!

mnstr_trd_sd
Jul 13, 2004, 10:50 PM
alas, another heartbreak :(

it's a cruel thing to get a mans hopes up, then shoot him down.


oh well, what's another month or so.......... :rolleyes:



argh!!!shoot me!!!please!!!! where's my sake?

J_Berg
Jul 13, 2004, 10:51 PM
i think at this point i'd willingly give up atleast one....maybe both...of my testicles just to have the release of getting the machine (or just KNOWING when it will come). the anticipation is so bad for my heart.

I opted for plastic over aluminum too. The brilliant savings rebate says it must be postmarked by the 26th of July. I wonder if they would extend that if I don't get my machine by then... anyone talked to apple about that?

Did your cinema display ship yet? I got mine a couple of weeks ago. At least they didn't make me wait for the part of the order that has been on the market for over a year.

For your sake, I hope you get your machine before you hawk your testies. I doubt they're worth as much as a G5 anyway.

jimsowden
Jul 13, 2004, 10:58 PM
n/a

iriejedi
Jul 13, 2004, 11:05 PM
What harm could it do to post a picture of a lable on the card board box for the new dual 2.5's....

I do not doubt you... however it makes NO business sense to hold inventory!~ If the product is in a box, in a store - it is ready to ship.... not like they can fix any bugs at that point - inventory is a liability/cost on the accounting books so it would not make sense to let it sit un-sellable for two+ weeks. Send a picture or get the company CFO to explain why they would sit on inventory and still claim to follow GAAP policies.

:-)

IJ


I hate to say it, but they did arrive about 2 weeks ago, and we havn't been able to move them. Of anyone wants to walk into our store, pm me for more info, you could walk out with a new 2.5 G5! No kidding.

JamSoft
Jul 13, 2004, 11:10 PM
I have the G5 2.5 on order with the NVIDA 6800 graphics card and my Estimated Ship date is on or before: 07/30/2004

I ordered my computer about 5 days after it was announced, and then upgraded to the newer NVIDA graphics card shortly after they were announced. When I called the apple store to change my order for the NVIDA graphics card they told me that I had to cancel and replace my order, however I have previously ordered the older 23 in display and had already received it. This is where things got tricky. To use the rebate/discount that came with my display I had to have ordered the computer before a certain date or something (sorry, for being vague, my I don't quite remember what it exactly was) so the guy I was talking to on the phone had to get his supervisor to give the "ok" to not cancel my order, but rather upgrade it.

So, everything worked out, and I managed to keep my previous estimated ship date. I'm afraid though that the ship date isn't really realistic, because didn't steve say the new NVIDA cards wouldn't ship until mid-late august? If that's the case then there's 0% chance that my ship date is correct. Am I maybe missing something here, or not remembering something correctly?

-Nate

mnstr_trd_sd
Jul 13, 2004, 11:28 PM
when where the new G5's announced?

i ordered mine july 5, my estimated ship date is on or before august 30.


that sucks!

:(

Trekkie
Jul 13, 2004, 11:31 PM
when where the new G5's announced?

i ordered mine july 5, my estimated ship date is on or before august 30.


that sucks!

:(

your vid card is holding you up, not the system. NOte the pictures posted have an ATI 9600 in them or even the nVidia 5200 or whatever the low end one is. the ATI 9800 and nV 6800 take up two slots due to the cooling on them

JonGraves
Jul 13, 2004, 11:35 PM
If you order today, you have a 4 to 6 week wait.

Yup, I ordered a Dual 2.5 with CTO Bluetooth today and delivery is quoted as on or before 8/24/04. I wish they would include Bluetooth as standard or make it user upgradeable like Airport!

Jon

mnstr_trd_sd
Jul 13, 2004, 11:36 PM
your vid card is holding you up, not the system. NOte the pictures posted have an ATI 9600 in them or even the nVidia 5200 or whatever the low end one is. the ATI 9800 and nV 6800 take up two slots due to the cooling on them


yeah, i know(sob) it's just so hard,(siffle) you know?

is there a picture of the new g5 with the new 6800? that'd sure freakin chear me up :D

JohnnyTwoToes
Jul 14, 2004, 12:16 AM
I opted for plastic over aluminum too. The brilliant savings rebate says it must be postmarked by the 26th of July. I wonder if they would extend that if I don't get my machine by then... anyone talked to apple about that?

Did your cinema display ship yet? I got mine a couple of weeks ago. At least they didn't make me wait for the part of the order that has been on the market for over a year.

For your sake, I hope you get your machine before you hawk your testies. I doubt they're worth as much as a G5 anyway.
i did, they said not to worry that they'd still honor it. hope that helps. i called htem twice and got the same answer from two different people who checked with supervisors.

The Bartender
Jul 14, 2004, 12:44 AM
i'm doubtful that this is true. who would be the ones getting their machines? i ordered mine the day of release and nothing has changed in my order status. i'm not necessarily expecting to be one of the first to get one, just curious as to WHO is actually getting them if this claim is true.

I have a feeking you might be sorry about that choice.

The Bartender
Jul 14, 2004, 12:53 AM
Yup, I ordered a Dual 2.5 with CTO Bluetooth today and delivery is quoted as on or before 8/24/04. I wish they would include Bluetooth as standard or make it user upgradeable like Airport!

Jon

Bluetooth is upgradable... you just cant hide it inside your computer.

Kenny Pollock
Jul 14, 2004, 01:12 AM
GRRRRRR (I'm on a PC because I sold my other Mac to buy this)

JohnnyTwoToes
Jul 14, 2004, 01:29 AM
I have a feeking you might be sorry about that choice.

sorry? my heavens?! WHY?!

XDream
Jul 14, 2004, 01:34 AM
I'm already waiting for four weeks - so come on - gimme that thing :)

The Bartender
Jul 14, 2004, 02:34 AM
sorry? my heavens?! WHY?!

I have the G4 generation plastic Cinema Display and by all means it's a beautiful monitor in many ways... but being so limited as far as adjustability can really get annoying after a while. The new aluminum enclosures, in my opinion, are better because of their thin bezel and small footprint. having that would make properly positioning two monitors a breeze. For me, turning the four inch gap between my monitors into a one inch gap would be a dream...

thats just how I feel... never hard feelings.

DWKlink
Jul 14, 2004, 02:38 AM
I cannot find confirmation of this on any other site. I am sad (very sad) to say that I don't think that these are shipping yet.

mnstr_trd_sd
Jul 14, 2004, 02:43 AM
i wanted to share also :D

klaus
Jul 14, 2004, 02:48 AM
Unless we hear the first people shouting they got a shipping confirmation, it is indeed hard to believe they are already shipping them.

On the other hand, the guys who got their display this day, also mentioned a shipping date " on or before 28/7", so you can't really tell anything with that date..

If you got one, let us hear about it :)

Sabbath
Jul 14, 2004, 03:22 AM
It seems strange that they have popped up in one place and no one else seems to have seen any. I wonder if Apple just wanted to ship a few at the same time as the displays or if a few just sneaked out.

I sure hope you guys all get them soon though.

Ge4-ce
Jul 14, 2004, 05:26 AM
Mine should arrive Friday 16th..

The reseller got confirmation that their units would arrive thursday 15th and that mine would be shipped to me right away.

I guess it all depends on WHERE you ordered one..

I think Apple devides all available units into percentages.. for example:

70% goes to Apple (store and onlinestore)
30% goes to resellers

If you bought at a reseller, you could be lucky like me, and get yours right away when the first shipment rolls out.

If you bought at the applestore, you're in a list. And only the first ones get theirs. the others have to wait.

Just stick some number on it to justify what I'm telling.. imagine there are 100 PM 2.5 shipping, that would give 70 to apple, and maybe 1 to my local reseller. but at applestores, 7000 people ordered a PM and at the local reseller, I was the first!

Then again, from that 70 applestore guys who got theirs, only 1 will come to these forums to say his one arrived..

m.r.m.
Jul 14, 2004, 05:38 AM
can anybody give me any dB specs on the 2.5ghz and 2.0ghz models? i´d like to figure out how loud they are (since i don´t have the option of visiting an apple store soon).

ajb13
Jul 14, 2004, 06:03 AM
My reseller told me I'll have mine on Friday, though I'll have to wait for the 23" Aluminium display :(

:D

Savage Henry
Jul 14, 2004, 06:15 AM
I need a faster cpu for Mathematica. Right now it would be nice to solve these nonhomogeneous partial differential Bessel functions so I can precisely see the nondispersive wave propagation of a circle. My poor little G4 takes a while to compute the associated Eigenvalues.


:) I did laugh when I read that, but I still can't work out why ... :confused:

Personally, I'd settle of owning a 2.5 for sheer Geek points ahead of my peers ... they will all crumble in my mighty shadow ...

Perhaps Jobs will provide more concrete evidence of the 2.5 deliveries in his Q&A quarterly results shindig. But perhaps not.

DWKlink
Jul 14, 2004, 07:05 AM
Trying not to get my hopes up... but i just checked clubmac and although it still says my 2.5 is on backorder, it list a ship date of 7/14/04... keeping my fingers crossed... and i'll keep you all informed.

blakespot
Jul 14, 2004, 07:57 AM
Man.... The top end, 2.5GHz G5 - the fastest Mac Apple has ever released.

(And the most recent, as well.)


blakespot

manu chao
Jul 14, 2004, 07:58 AM
Doesn't the photo of two G5 processors, which seem to share a single case, confirm the rumors about the leaked service manual, where one of the differences was that there were no longer two individual cases for the two processors?

klaus
Jul 14, 2004, 08:02 AM
well, that was about the ONLY resemblance :)

klaus
Jul 14, 2004, 08:08 AM
Mine should arrive Friday 16th..


What's your reseller? Mine is ITPro in Gent, ordered my mac on june 13th..
mailed him monday, and he had no word on shipments

here's hoping!

~Shard~
Jul 14, 2004, 08:09 AM
It's nice to see that when Apple says, "Shipping in July", they didn't mean July 31st at 23:59 PM! ;) Along with Airport Express and the 20" and 23" monitors, Apple's doing really well on delivering things roughly when they promised.

blakespot
Jul 14, 2004, 08:58 AM
Doesn't the photo of two G5 processors, which seem to share a single case, confirm the rumors about the leaked service manual, where one of the differences was that there were no longer two individual cases for the two processors?

Yes. As did the official product photos that appeared all over Apple's site and in related PDF's on June 9th, the day the G5 was introduced.



blakespot

invaLPsion
Jul 14, 2004, 09:01 AM
Trying not to get my hopes up... but i just checked clubmac and although it still says my 2.5 is on backorder, it list a ship date of 7/14/04... keeping my fingers crossed... and i'll keep you all informed.

With all the resellers saying this it looks like they will be shipping the units it looks like it's this week for sure... EXCELLENT :D

belair
Jul 14, 2004, 09:09 AM
This is all very good news indeed.
So the first ones are being delivered in the states right now.
Guess I will call my reseller on friday or so. So that this time he actually knows what he is talking about. (they told me last week they would ship on the 9th of july of course, doh!)
I would need that machine so desparately right now. As I can't work on my brothers laptop anymore… ;) . I hope it will be next week, let it be next week. Looks up in the sky as the clouds open and a ray of light illuminates him.

Duff-Man
Jul 14, 2004, 09:27 AM
Duff-Man says....if indeed they are starting to ship, perhaps it will get mentioned during the quarterly results conference call later today.....oh yeah!

Soire
Jul 14, 2004, 09:28 AM
It seems to me that it's all the people in foreign countries buying from resellers who are getting confirmation on shipping. I find that a little odd. I ordered a BTO two days after release, and so I feel that I should be among the first few batches to be delivered.

So I'm waiting for some people in the states to claim their APPLE STORE ORDERS SHIPPED before I get my hopes up. ;)

Oh, and does anybody know how much Apple makes their BTO orders lag behind their stock orders??

itsa
Jul 14, 2004, 09:58 AM
Just called the apple store again. They said my order has not shipped... in fact... no orders have shipped. They say the rumors are not true.
If they are not telling the truth... why? They get paid for what they sell.. not for what they can't ship yet.
I ordered my 2.5 the minute they went online. I want mine first!! :0)

solo-act
Jul 14, 2004, 10:30 AM
So I'm waiting for some people in the states to claim their APPLE STORE ORDERS SHIPPED before I get my hopes up. ;) USA customer....Ordered July 26 after hearing Jobs confirm the heat issue and basically that Moore's law is on hold for a while as far as CPUs is concerned.

Est ship as of July 26 AND as of today = "on or before July 30"

Someone that has called an Apple store and confirmed they have a 2.5 demo unit to put hands on please chime in.......:rolleyes:

Otherwise I would be a little skeptical of what this rumor is saying. --E

capndesign
Jul 14, 2004, 10:53 AM
I also ordered from CDW and my rep said the 20" Aluminum display was scheduled to arrive on the 12th and the 2.5GHz G5 on the 16th. He also said that he thought Apple would probably just ship both products in one big shipment.

So, chalk up some more support for the resellers shipping early.

JohnnyTwoToes
Jul 14, 2004, 11:21 AM
it might make sense for the resellers to get theirs first. it's still a business and there's money to be made. they're probably all stock orders too, so it would probably be easier and faster for apple to get those put together. thats just speculation on my part though.

GeckoHD
Jul 14, 2004, 11:25 AM
My Apple order says "on or before the 16th August". Im waiting for a G5 2.5ghz specced up to the hilt, with x2 23" Cinema displays. I ordered on the 28th June, as soon as the new cinema displays became available.

Us brits have to put up with always being behind you guys :(

Ge4-ce
Jul 14, 2004, 11:43 AM
Also, what could help resellers to get their PowerMacs earlier: When they annouced the powerMac, the resellers probably ordered a couple of hundred pieces.. That's a big order that was done at once. It's some sort of a buffer for clients like me that buy straight from the reseller.

I don't know if what I mean is a reseller, they do not have a store, but they deliver Macs to little stores. Is that a reseller? or an importer? or how do you call that..

DWKlink
Jul 14, 2004, 12:01 PM
Response from ClubMac:

"We did receive word from Apple that they have sent out small quantities at a time. however, they did not release to us the information as to "how many" are in that "small quantity." I will definitely be keeping my eyes and ears open to see how many arrive at the warehouse and keep you updated."

It shows that my order shipped today as well. I'm waiting to hear back about that validity of that. I have a tracking number, but it is not working as of yet. It's still early in the states though, so UPS may not have picked it up for shipment yet.

This is getting exciting!

OSXconvert
Jul 14, 2004, 01:00 PM
I think the other reason this rumor exists, whether true or not, is to bolster flagging enthusiasm for what may be lackluster powermac numbers this afternoon. Despite the success of itunes and the ipod, the postponement of the imac and the failure to deliver a 3.0gightz powermac may significantly lower apple's profitability. Having "some" new 2.5 powermacs shipping and some airport express units out the door will be "good" news to announce later this afternoon to the media and shareholders, even if it will be weeks or even a month before they ship in quantity. It doesn't look like there will be anything radically new computer wise until September at the earliest, so even the next quarter's numbers may be weak. Apple is innovating; unfortunately they're just not executing with reliability.

Soire
Jul 14, 2004, 01:09 PM
Why would Apple ship the 2.5s in limited numbers? Can anyone recall when an update was shipped a few at a time, with resellers getting priority???

From what I gather, Apple normally gives priority to customers, ships in quantity, and beats their expected ship date by a few days. I could be wrong, but who can remember their usual computer update model??

stuBCN75
Jul 14, 2004, 01:23 PM
It seems to me that it's all the people in foreign countries buying from resellers who are getting confirmation on shipping. I find that a little odd. I ordered a BTO two days after release, and so I feel that I should be among the first few batches to be delivered.

So I'm waiting for some people in the states to claim their APPLE STORE ORDERS SHIPPED before I get my hopes up. ;)

Oh, and does anybody know how much Apple makes their BTO orders lag behind their stock orders??

Foreign countries ? As far as i was aware, they are made in Ireland and the displays are made in Asia. I just spoke to someone at Apple UK ( they are based in Ireland ) and they said that the shipping dates have not changed and mine should arrive ( in Spain where I now live ) early to mid August by the latest. He was the one who told me the Macs are made in Ireland.

If that is true then I would say the US is a foreign country, so maybe they will arrive in the UK and Europe first. :)

Just trying to be optimistic, i want my new mac asap. I placed my order today by the way ! G5 2.5 + 23" Display.

i may be wrong about the Ireland thing so don't bite my head off, just passing on what i was told.

DWKlink
Jul 14, 2004, 01:44 PM
"The order has not shipped as the computer has not physically arrived at our warehouse yet. I am not sure, honestly, as to why the website is showing you something that states "date shipped 7/14/04" :/"

That's my latest e-mail from ClubMac. Even though the website says that it shipped today, my representative is saying it didn't. I'm confused, as is he it appears. But he does seem to believe that they will be arriving any date.

I just don't understand why it would give me a link to track the shipment and everything... very strange, and VERY disappointing.

BTW, I live in the US.

solo-act
Jul 14, 2004, 02:22 PM
Has anyone called the Apple store in the their area and confirmed that there's a demo 2.5 there or when its coming......?

Chip NoVaMac
Jul 14, 2004, 02:26 PM
Has anyone called the Apple store in the their area and confirmed that there's a demo 2.5 there or when its coming......?

Don't want to. If they have one, I'll probably order one :)

jimsowden
Jul 14, 2004, 02:38 PM
Also, what could help resellers to get their PowerMacs earlier: When they annouced the powerMac, the resellers probably ordered a couple of hundred pieces.. That's a big order that was done at once. It's some sort of a buffer for clients like me that buy straight from the reseller.

I don't know if what I mean is a reseller, they do not have a store, but they deliver Macs to little stores. Is that a reseller? or an importer? or how do you call that..
Thats an autorrized distributer.

JoePike
Jul 14, 2004, 03:07 PM
They might have released a few of these beasts into the wild, but I don't think everyone should go stand by the door and wait for the package just yet. Keep in mind that we waited a long time for big blue to kick out enough processors to even make an announcement of a new PMG5. Not sure how that supply chain is moving these days, but something makes me think it might not be up to full steam just yet. Plus, I bet the kids in Cupertino are pretty busy filling these large orders for G5-based superclusters. Granted, the clusters that have been announced are using Xserves instead of PM's, but building a few hundred of anything takes time, and probably gets priority due to the positive press it generates for Apple. Just my two cents.

Ge4-ce
Jul 14, 2004, 03:18 PM
Thats an autorrized distributer.

Oh, Ok, than I ordered it with an Autorrized distributer (we have a store and buy all our Apple equipment there, so that makes us the reseller), and they confirmed that this particulary PM 2.5 would arrive Friday! I don't get my bets up yet..

I'll keep you informed..

Kenny Pollock
Jul 14, 2004, 03:39 PM
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I sent Apple an email with a bunch of questions and complaints, like why the Dual 2.5GHz G5 is said to be shipping in July and I'm getting mine near September, and if it's true some have shipped, etc. Let's see what they have to say.

invaLPsion
Jul 14, 2004, 04:20 PM
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I sent Apple an email with a bunch of questions and complaints, like why the Dual 2.5GHz G5 is said to be shipping in July and I'm getting mine near September, and if it's true some have shipped, etc. Let's see what they have to say.

Hopefully they'll answer these questions in the Q&A session of the Financial Results for the 3rd quarter.

Soire
Jul 14, 2004, 04:39 PM
Hopefully they'll answer these questions in the Q&A session of the Financial Results for the 3rd quarter.


Nope.

belair
Jul 14, 2004, 04:50 PM
Now that they shed some clarity on the release of a G5 imac in september it would be cool of apple to inform their customers about their top of the line machine the G5 2.5.

I mean saying that their might be delays all trough out the quarter is not really reassuring. Just give us some numbers of how many will ship during what time period and what is the demand compared to the offer right now.


There is no surprise in it for us anyway.We know the product we know what it looks like. We want them really bad. So just tell us.

macetaria
Jul 14, 2004, 04:58 PM
Originally Posted by Kenny Pollock

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I sent Apple an email with a bunch of questions and complaints, like why the Dual 2.5GHz G5 is said to be shipping in July and I'm getting mine near September, and if it's true some have shipped, etc. Let's see what they have to say.
Hopefully they'll answer these questions in the Q&A session of the Financial Results for the 3rd quarter.

they probably did not get the email in time to discuss this matter during the Q&A session
;)

AndyDiamond
Jul 14, 2004, 05:06 PM
I'm in New Zealand.

I ordered 2 x G5s last week.

Got the dual 2.0 with extra 2GB RAM the same day I ordered it.

The dual 2.5 is on traget for the end of July - I'm first on the list.

All the Macs here come via Apple Australia to the NZ Apple distributor and to Australia from Singapore where they are manufactured.

So, we usually get stuff pretty quickly although if you want a BTO ie. different video card it'll take up to 6 weeks extra.

Soire
Jul 14, 2004, 05:16 PM
Hey Arn,

Where did these reports come from? It wasn't just Jim was it?

I only ask to get an idea of what we're dealing with here, not that I want you to divulge your secrets or contacts. :p

JohnnyTwoToes
Jul 14, 2004, 06:26 PM
I have the G4 generation plastic Cinema Display and by all means it's a beautiful monitor in many ways... but being so limited as far as adjustability can really get annoying after a while. The new aluminum enclosures, in my opinion, are better because of their thin bezel and small footprint. having that would make properly positioning two monitors a breeze. For me, turning the four inch gap between my monitors into a one inch gap would be a dream...

thats just how I feel... never hard feelings.

i was just confused as to what you were refering. the adjustability isnt much of an issue for me (i sit with a monitor at a slight tilt away from me) i just don't need the additional firewire or the extra hundred dollars attached to the new alu display. i can make due with less adjustability for the cost difference. the new lcds should have dropped a bit in price, the technology difference isnt much compared to what the monitors WERE. (350:1/400:1 contrast ratio difference? c'mon, 50 more isnt enough to justify the cost difference).

althought...the alu displays are gorgeous as well, just not in the budget yet.
love,
johnny

www.waltzillustration.com

mnstr_trd_sd
Jul 14, 2004, 06:50 PM
I called my local apple store in san diego and there are no dual 2.5's on display. They told me when the new 2.5's ship, that's when they will have it on display. They are very tight lipped here. :cool:

i'll keep you all posted

clr900
Jul 14, 2004, 10:14 PM
Out of all the people getting new 2.5s, how many of you also got Applecare? I plan on ordering end of July with the 6800 and was wondering if applecare would really be worth it.

jdhuskey
Jul 14, 2004, 10:32 PM
Out of all the people getting new 2.5s, how many of you also got Applecare? I plan on ordering end of July with the 6800 and was wondering if applecare would really be worth it.

I'm not one to buy the first revision of a particular Mac line since my bad experience with Firewire in the first G3 B&W. Even though it's the second revision of the G5, the liquid cooling system in the dual 2.5s is completely new, so I chose to get AppleCare just in case it turns out to have big problems. I'd much rather have an easy way to get something done about it than possibly have to wait for Apple to admit a problem and offer a solution.

mnstr_trd_sd
Jul 14, 2004, 11:01 PM
I'm not one to buy the first revision of a particular Mac line since my bad experience with Firewire in the first G3 B&W. Even though it's the second revision of the G5, the liquid cooling system in the dual 2.5s is completely new, so I chose to get AppleCare just in case it turns out to have big problems. I'd much rather have an easy way to get something done about it than possibly have to wait for Apple to admit a problem and offer a solution.


That's a very valid statement. Although they are RevB's, the cooling system "is" completely new. I think I should get the apple care. :cool:

Gentz
Jul 14, 2004, 11:13 PM
Say, say! It's possible to add Applecare at a later time as long as it's in the original warranty time frame of one year, right?

Duff-Man
Jul 14, 2004, 11:26 PM
Say, say! It's possible to add Applecare at a later time as long as it's in the original warranty time frame of one year, right?Duff-Man says....yes, that is right...and that is what I will probably do too - wait at least a few months, monitor forums and macfixit for reports on these liquid-cooled systems...then decide if I want to spend the extra $$ for Applecare (I probably will...)....oh yeah!

G5support.com
Jul 14, 2004, 11:31 PM
Say, say! It's possible to add Applecare at a later time as long as it's in the original warranty time frame of one year, right?

Correct.

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Gentz
Jul 14, 2004, 11:47 PM
Thanks, guys :D

greenstork
Jul 15, 2004, 01:42 AM
Apple stores use netboot to prevent customers from altering the perfect arrangement of files and software on the computers. THis means every computer will be on the same version of the os, so even if they had 10.3.5 on the system, it would still be running 10.3.4 if you look at it.

Sorry to be off-topic but I was on a road trip last month and needed an iTrip. I bought it at an Apple Store, downloaded an iPod program to take my songs off my pod. I paired my pod to the Apple store computer and uploaded my songs with iTrip files. I was able to DL and install whatever I wished without problem.

Tim3308
Jul 15, 2004, 02:01 AM
I've received my Apple care for the 2.5 G5. First Apple care I've bought for a Mac.

Why? Well, no longer have local servicer in my town, and the guy was after me at Macmall -- they are offering Apple Care for $199 vs the standard $249.
He aslo said the promotion price has to go w/ the order of the G5. If I added it later, bang, no more sale price plus an $18 set up fee. When I still himmed and hawed he took another chunk off my shipping, as a way to drop the AC price even further. I bit. No regrets.

T i m

P.S. Sure'd like the recent shipping rumors to be true.

belair
Jul 15, 2004, 03:35 AM
That apple has not put it up on their site that the 2.5 are shipping.

Shortly after the first screens arrived at their happy new owners, rumours went wild, pics showed up and the day after that apple put it up on their site as well.

Now this rumours is still going strong but no "real" sign whatsoever that they are actually shipping.

Gimme some evidence here people!

stuBCN75
Jul 15, 2004, 04:07 AM
Say, say! It's possible to add Applecare at a later time as long as it's in the original warranty time frame of one year, right?

Yes you can.

BUT if you buy a Display at the same time as the Mac you need to add Apple care when you place the order otherwise the Display will not be covered even if you add Apple care later.

Apparently according the guy I spoke to at the Apple store you can not buy a separate Apple care for a display :(

The Macs and Displays should really come with a 3 year warranty, this seems to becoming the standard now for other electrical products but for some reason not Apple.

pounce
Jul 15, 2004, 06:56 AM
i guess i was feeling optimistic. i ordered the top end g5 right away. it's not really a rev b i suppose, theres just so many new things in there. with the 90nn processor, liquid cooling, etc. it's pretty much more of a rev a of a new build.

anyhow, i do hope to get it soon just for my own impatience. my order still shows a shipping date of the end of this month, even though mine is a bto. i went ahead and upped the ram and hd through apple. it didn't seem to affect my ship date, though.

recursivejon
Jul 15, 2004, 09:20 AM
the 2.5 may have a shorter wait? i wouldnt hold out for the 6800 though, other posts on the forums and apple.com have systems with that card in them stated at 8/31 - 9/3 (so i've read and saw on apple). check for yourself. the card is what is going to hold you up. if the 2.5 status changes and you need the system order one with the stock card and then just upgrade to the 6800 when it becomes more widely available.

I ordered my 2.5 in the first week they were released, then on the day they unveiled the 6800 DDL, I upgraded my order. My ship date has remained "On or before 07/30/2004".

Soire
Jul 15, 2004, 10:57 AM
I am starting to crack up.

I can't take it!! When will they ship?? If it's really not until the end of the month, then why the rumors??

AAAaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

:o

JohnnyTwoToes
Jul 15, 2004, 12:50 PM
I ordered my 2.5 in the first week they were released, then on the day they unveiled the 6800 DDL, I upgraded my order. My ship date has remained "On or before 07/30/2004".


recursive, not to go out of my way to contradict you...i hope that date stands firm for you. the card itself isnt supposed to be available to mid to late august...so i dont understand how apple can meet that 7/30 date. for your case i hope they do, but i wouldnt get my hopes up. it IS apple we're dealing with. they like to sell us vaporware. and we like to buy it...the fools we are.

Soire
Jul 15, 2004, 03:17 PM
I'm so desperate to keep my mind occupied I stumbled across this article about Apple stock. To sum up: the stock rose 12% after the 3rd quarter results.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,125832,00.html

When will the G5s ship??!! :(

Duff-Man
Jul 15, 2004, 03:25 PM
they like to sell us vaporware. Duff-Man says...the G5's are *not* vaporware...you need a little refresher course in that definition....oh yeah!

clr900
Jul 15, 2004, 04:10 PM
I guess I will get Applecare later if I decide I need it. Glad I found out you could do that. I might not get it though because you would think that the bugs would become apparent pretty quickly and therefore be covered in your standard one year warranty. Although it would be bad to find out you need an expensive replacement/repair more than a year after you buy it.

Gentz
Jul 15, 2004, 05:16 PM
Awww blast!! I've waited too long to order the 2.5 G5...4-6 weeks shipping, ugh. I'm gonna see if I can get one earlier at the Apple retail store. Hopefully I can reserve one when they receive their shipments.

hotwire132002
Jul 15, 2004, 05:44 PM
Just an observation-- I ordered MS Office and Macromedia Studio MX today, they said ships "On or before 07/20". They shipped today. Fedex says they'll arie 07/20. Maybe that means the G5s will arrive 07/30? Or maybe I'm just desperate :rolleyes:

Kosh66
Jul 15, 2004, 07:21 PM
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I sent Apple an email with a bunch of questions and complaints, like why the Dual 2.5GHz G5 is said to be shipping in July and I'm getting mine near September, and if it's true some have shipped, etc. Let's see what they have to say.

You aren't serious, are you? You just ordered this week. There are thousands, if not tens of thousands of orders ahead of you in the queue that Apple has to fulfill. If you wanted it in July you should have ordered earlier. Only a crazy person would order this late. And only a stupid person like you would call and complain and waste Apple's time. Heck, those of us who ordered on June 9 and received our estimated ship date of July 30 haven't even received ours.

wdlove
Jul 15, 2004, 07:44 PM
I guess I will get Applecare later if I decide I need it. Glad I found out you could do that. I might not get it though because you would think that the bugs would become apparent pretty quickly and therefore be covered in your standard one year warranty. Although it would be bad to find out you need an expensive replacement/repair more than a year after you buy it.

That is the very reason why it's best to purchase AppleCare within the first year. You just never know. The only reason not to get AppleCare is if a person feels confident that they can afford to pay for any repair the would occur, could easily be $1,000.00.

I got to behold the new Power Mac dual 2.5 G5. They had the side panel off, so got to look through the clear plastic. When the Apple technician came over, he also took off the plastic cover. The radiator in front of the processors reminded me of a car radiator.

When I visited my local Apple Store, we don't expect the the dual 2.5 till the first of August. They had the new 1.8 and 2.0. THe G5 case looks the same as the 2.5. What surprised me more was that it also had an item that looked like a radiator. My thought that it was a design issue to save on production costs.

Arodweb
Jul 15, 2004, 07:46 PM
those of us who ordered on June 9 and received our estimated ship date of July 30 haven't even received ours.

i placed my order onthe 24th :(
but i'll keep my hopes up :rolleyes:

wdlove
Jul 15, 2004, 08:02 PM
i placed my order onthe 24th :(
but i'll keep my hopes up :rolleyes:

Patience is what's needed. There are still 16 days left in July. The wait will all be forgot when you G5 arrives. ;)

Arodweb
Jul 15, 2004, 08:09 PM
Patience is what's needed. There are still 16 days left in July. The wait will all be forgot when you G5 arrives. ;)

yes indeed :D

invaLPsion
Jul 15, 2004, 08:38 PM
Patience is what's needed. There are still 16 days left in July. The wait will all be forgot when you G5 arrives. ;)

Good god, yes! :D

But, for now, it's hell!!!! :mad: :D

aussiemac86
Jul 15, 2004, 10:51 PM
Yeah my local reseller first said they were going to recieve a shipment in week 3 of july (ie this week about to end)...i was all excited i would get mine before i go back to uni for semester 2....... just got a ring from them saying it will be another 2 weeks at least......i thought it would be to good to be true....well heres to another 2 weeks running OS9.2 on a 233MHz machine :o

Jacasey
Jul 15, 2004, 11:14 PM
i placed my order onthe 24th :(
but i'll keep my hopes up :rolleyes:I ordered mine 6/14 and here's my Tracking response from Apple:

2.5DPG5/512MB/160/SD/R9600XT/PCI-X-USA

M9457LL/A

On or before
07/30/2004

1

Open :(

huevohead
Jul 16, 2004, 11:21 AM
I finally ordered my 2.5 G5 last night and while configuring it i threw on the ultra 6800 card at the last minute. I didn't realize the card wasnt coming out until late august. Since the graphics card isn't all that important to me for the time being I called up the Apple Store and changed my order to the 9800.

My order status now shows the change in graphics card, but i am still listed at a shipping date of 8/27 or earlier.

Im wondering if this means that since i ordered so late I cant really do anything about getting the computer earlier so does it really matter that i changed to an already available graphics card? Hopefully that was all understandable.

mnstr_trd_sd
Jul 16, 2004, 11:28 AM
I got to behold the new Power Mac dual 2.5 G5. They had the side panel off, so got to look through the clear plastic. When the Apple technician came over, he also took off the plastic cover. The radiator in front of the processors reminded me of a car radiator.

When I visited my local Apple Store, we don't expect the the dual 2.5 till the first of August. They had the new 1.8 and 2.0. THe G5 case looks the same as the 2.5. What surprised me more was that it also had an item that looked like a radiator. My thought that it was a design issue to save on production costs.

It is the liquid cooling system. Did you check for noise reduction or anything like that? I am curious if it is quieter now? :cool:

Rocketfella
Jul 16, 2004, 11:41 AM
Don't have first hand experience, but here's what I expect:

The 2.5DP will be quiet like the other two machines when idle. During high processor usage such as rendering, the 1.8 and 2.0 fans speed up becoming more audible (this may toggle up and down as needed for cooling) ...whereas the 2.5 fans won't need to speed up without a much heavier processor load, if at all.

If anyone has checked this out with the 2.5, post your observations here.

Mr MacNabbit
Jul 16, 2004, 11:53 AM
Arrgh!! - it's getting unbearable waiting!! :) - I never had to wait for a Mac before - but then I never ordered a top of the line before either!.... I am bloody dreaming about the thing! lol! :rolleyes:

Mr MacNabbit
Jul 16, 2004, 11:55 AM
..mine was ordered on the 12th of june, and my due date in the UK is on or around the 2nd of August...

klaus
Jul 16, 2004, 12:18 PM
I wonder how long the delay is when you buy a BTO model.
I ordered on the 13th of june, completely stock. So maybe mine will arrive a bit sooner than the ones they need to configure.. or am I hoping for too much :-)

edit : added some ram that I bought from the reseller, not from apple

pighuddle
Jul 16, 2004, 12:35 PM
So this rumor is just that. There are no 2.5x2s in retail stores and they are not shipping, correct?

Kosh66
Jul 16, 2004, 12:41 PM
Yeah, I think it was all just a rumor. :mad: I haven't seen any other rumor or news site post an article on G5 2.5's shipping, and surely one of the other Mac rumor or news sites would have.

invaLPsion
Jul 16, 2004, 12:48 PM
Yeah, I think it was all just a rumor. :mad: I haven't seen any other rumor or news site post an article on G5 2.5's shipping, and surely one of the other Mac rumor or news sites would have.

Come on, Arn. What were your sources on this one? :mad:

Can you at least put a question mark at the end of the name of the thread to denote that it could be false (and probly is). :rolleyes:

Soire
Jul 16, 2004, 12:53 PM
Yea, what's wrong with a retraction, or at least a "?" on the report?

I seriously hope that this whole thing is not based upon a mixed up shipment that led to Jimsdown getting two shipped a couple weeks ago.

INFO!.... (please)... :)

capndesign
Jul 16, 2004, 12:53 PM
I just spoke to my CDW rep and he still says they're scheduled to arrive today. I then called a couple more people there to see if I could get some more info.

One guy told me that there's a reasonable chance they came today. Apple did not change the shipping date in their system and they always do when they are shipping things later. He also noted that their shipping & receiving department is really backed up and doesn't think they'll be in stock until Monday or Tuesday.

So, it's definitely not concrete but was good news to me.

Soire
Jul 16, 2004, 01:08 PM
I just spoke to my CDW rep and he still says they're scheduled to arrive today. I then called a couple more people there to see if I could get some more info.

One guy told me that there's a reasonable chance they came today. Apple did not change the shipping date in their system and they always do when they are shipping things later. He also noted that their shipping & receiving department is really backed up and doesn't think they'll be in stock until Monday or Tuesday.

So, it's definitely not concrete but was good news to me.


I'd be freakin awe struck and stupified if they actually got them in today, or by monday.

wdlove
Jul 16, 2004, 01:14 PM
It is the liquid cooling system. Did you check for noise reduction or anything like that? I am curious if it is quieter now? :cool:

It was the 1.8 and 2.0 G5 model that also had the radiator look as the G5. It was an Apple Store employee told me that they don't yet have the 2.5.

Since I was at the convention Exhibit floor which was noisy. I held my ear next to the G5 and I didn't really notice any noise. The two fans in front of the radiator were running at a slow speed. So according to the Apple Specialist, that's what will make it quieter.

gossas
Jul 16, 2004, 01:32 PM
When I'd ordered my CTO 2.5DP my cc was due to expire, since the order the card has been renewed. Apple finance wanted a new card expiry date today, maybe they are looking at debiting my card :). Or I'm being wildly optimistic :(

wdlove
Jul 16, 2004, 01:38 PM
When I'd ordered my CTO 2.5DP my cc was due to expire, since the order the card has been renewed. Apple finance wanted a new card expiry date today, maybe they are looking at debiting my card :). Or I'm being wildly optimistic :(

I would say that is good news. If they are ready to credit your card it give cause for a smile. The overwhelming majority of companies including Apple don't dot hat until they are ready to make your custom order. That is only fair, if they are going to do a custom then they should know that they will be paid. Shipping should be soon to follow.

invaLPsion
Jul 16, 2004, 02:00 PM
I just spoke to my CDW rep and he still says they're scheduled to arrive today. I then called a couple more people there to see if I could get some more info.

One guy told me that there's a reasonable chance they came today. Apple did not change the shipping date in their system and they always do when they are shipping things later. He also noted that their shipping & receiving department is really backed up and doesn't think they'll be in stock until Monday or Tuesday.

So, it's definitely not concrete but was good news to me.

Great! Keep us updated. Monday or Tuesday would still be terrific.

TWO WEEKS UNTIL 7/30! :D

invaLPsion
Jul 16, 2004, 02:02 PM
I would say that is good news. If they are ready to credit your card it give cause for a smile. The overwhelming majority of companies including Apple don't dot hat until they are ready to make your custom order. That is only fair, if they are going to do a custom then they should know that they will be paid. Shipping should be soon to follow.

In my experience, Apple has always shipped their BTOs in the late afternoon or early evening. Sometimes overnight.

Could we see some BTOs ship tonight?????? :)

Like mine? :D

uzombie
Jul 16, 2004, 02:27 PM
Why doesn't Apple sell BTOs with Office 2004 installed bundle? Or an Adobe Bundle installed (CS suite)? An office suite bundle with Office and/or Quickbooks and fax prog. A designer packages with Suitcase, Adobe suite or Quark. A game package with Top 5 games...

Other than the obvious labor cost (gee, how hard is a bundle image from Microsoft Mac division or Adobe's Mac division?), I've set up numerous new G4's and G5's for clients that compared the Dell and HP bundles that come with Office... So why not something like this from Apple?

Appleworks, you say?

(Ok, OEM versions would be more confusing to the Standard, Premium, Educational packages already...). Still, there is the trial version of Office on some Macs and trial versions of Filemaker.

opinions?

Chip NoVaMac
Jul 16, 2004, 02:37 PM
Why doesn't Apple sell BTOs with Office 2004 installed bundle? Or an Adobe Bundle installed (CS suite)? An office suite bundle with Office and/or Quickbooks and fax prog. A designer packages with Suitcase, Adobe suite or Quark. A game package with Top 5 games...

Other than the obvious labor cost (gee, how hard is a bundle image from Microsoft Mac division or Adobe's Mac division?), I've set up numerous new G4's and G5's for clients that compared the Dell and HP bundles that come with Office... So why not something like this from Apple?

Appleworks, you say?

(Ok, OEM versions would be more confusing to the Standard, Premium, Educational packages already...). Still, there is the trial version of Office on some Macs and trial versions of Filemaker.

opinions?

No financial incentive for either Apple or the software vendors is my guess. It is my guess that those that need the MS Office or Adobe products will pay the piper.

pighuddle
Jul 16, 2004, 03:02 PM
So if I were to order today what who would get the 2x2.5 (no mods) to me fastest Apple or a retailer? ....and which retailer?

iriejedi
Jul 16, 2004, 03:09 PM
Solo Cards are delayed - cards in machine are NOT - well at least according to my order - 7/30 still even with NEW card - I ordered about 9:10am the day they were anounced and the card the same thing minutes after it was added to the store - my order date never changed - now this could be a fluke but the guy on the phone said it should not change the date... but what do they truly know?

Your delay is just your spot in the que... my new 23inch montior that is NOW SHIPPING (added that to order the day it was announced they WERE shippin)is scheduled for Aug 11th - so I'd go back and switch the card - after all the other card is all but useless - once you upgrade and the 6800 is more then a simple upgrade... it is a generation leaper.

I can't wait - but of course until it ships on the 30th of July - I'll not wager any bets for weather or not the card delays my 2.5

:-)

I finally ordered my 2.5 G5 last night and while configuring it i threw on the ultra 6800 card at the last minute. I didn't realize the card wasnt coming out until late august. Since the graphics card isn't all that important to me for the time being I called up the Apple Store and changed my order to the 9800.

My order status now shows the change in graphics card, but i am still listed at a shipping date of 8/27 or earlier.

Im wondering if this means that since i ordered so late I cant really do anything about getting the computer earlier so does it really matter that i changed to an already available graphics card? Hopefully that was all understandable.

Kenny Pollock
Jul 16, 2004, 03:13 PM
Apple replied to my email saying call them, so I did and a VERY nice lady explained how this goes. This rumor is false, she said it's very clear in the system that the G5's won't be shipping until the very last DAY of July to customers. The Apple Stores (and resellers) however will receive them possibly earlier. My estimated order ship date is 8/25/04, and it's only like that because their automated system shows the G5's as "out of stock." As soon as they're available and shipping, my ship date will be considerably sooner, because there automated system will show that they're in stock.

JCT
Jul 16, 2004, 03:23 PM
So if I were to order today what who would get the 2x2.5 (no mods) to me fastest Apple or a retailer? ....and which retailer?

pighuddle,

If you're willing to go with a stock machine (which is what I am doing), you should probably call some local Apple Retail Stores. I'm going to be vacationing in New Hampshire next month and on a whim I called the Salem, NH store a few weeks ago and put my name on the "list" for one of the new machines. To my surprise, I was only the 3rd person to do so and thus I have a good chance of getting one from the first shipment. I called the store earlier this week and they told me they were expecting their first shipment next week (which jives with some of the info above).

May be worth a shot if there are any Apple stores in your area. If not, I have always had good luck with MacConnection.

regards,

JT

Gentz
Jul 16, 2004, 03:37 PM
on a whim I called the Salem, NH store a few weeks ago and put my name on the "list" for one of the new machines.

Wha-at?! I called the Apple Store here in Indianapolis and asked if I could reserve one and the guy just said, "No, but keep calling back to check when we get them in stock," or something to that effect. Pfaw... at least I know when to call back :)

huevohead
Jul 16, 2004, 03:53 PM
I called the apple store again, thinking i would just go ahead and change the gfx card back to the 6800 but after speaking to two different individuals saying completely oposite things, I determined that the difference is: with the 9800xt there is a posibility of it shipping as early as 11 days before my estimated shipping date "8/27/04". With the 6800 the earliest it could be shipped would be late august.

So i guess im still confused as to what to do, but not quite as confused.

Soire
Jul 16, 2004, 04:07 PM
I am going to be supremely disappointed if resellers and apple stores get the 2.5s before online customers do. What the hell would that be? Apple screwing over the customers who ordered first and keep the company going?

Anybody have any experience with the shipping pecking order?

jdhuskey
Jul 16, 2004, 04:22 PM
I am going to be supremely disappointed if resellers and apple stores get the 2.5s before online customers do. What the hell would that be? Apple screwing over the customers who ordered first and keep the company going?

Anybody have any experience with the shipping pecking order?

No kidding. I'm going to be totally pissed off if they arrive at the Apple retail stores first. I live 4 miles from the Alpharetta, GA store. I could have just bought one there instead. :eek: Heads are gonna roll!

The wait is just killing me. There are so many things I'm waiting to finish and other projects I'm waiting to start because my G3 B&W just can't keep up anymore with iMovie and Logic Pro, or really any of my graphics apps.

Rocketfella
Jul 16, 2004, 04:25 PM
I agree Soire.

What is the logic of sending them to the stores first esp. if they are constrained and you have customers who have, in effect, already bought them?

This is irritating because, if true, with ground shipping it could be two weeks+ to get our orders after they are available to the public at stores and retailers.

If it ends up 14 or more days difference I'll buy from retailers in the future.

nkgmd
Jul 16, 2004, 04:30 PM
I ordered a custom 2.5ghz to replace a 2.0 that was DOA, through the tech support people, not the Apple Store. Originally, I ordered it with the 9800XT, and was told it would be about a two week turn around, and it would ship when they received the return. Well, that was almost a month ago. A few days later they announced the 6800 for only $135 more than what I had ordered. It took a few phone calls to get them to agree to change the order once it was "in process", but I finally got them to check on the expected date of shipping and they said 7/31. I figured if I had to wait that long anyway, I'd wait for the 6800, so I went ahead and made the change today. They hadn't started working on it yet of course, but even with the 6800 they still say 7/31 shipping date. I don't know if this is a special circumstance or not. They certainly don't seem to be rushing it through, and I have gotten different info from the reps in the past, but maybe....

invaLPsion
Jul 16, 2004, 07:34 PM
Check in the hardware forums under the thread "tons of new hardware today." The guy got his dual 2.5!!!! :eek:

pighuddle
Jul 16, 2004, 07:35 PM
pighuddle,

If you're willing to go with a stock machine (which is what I am doing), you should probably call some local Apple Retail Stores. I'm going to be vacationing in New Hampshire next month and on a whim I called the Salem, NH store a few weeks ago and put my name on the "list" for one of the new machines. To my surprise, I was only the 3rd person to do so and thus I have a good chance of getting one from the first shipment. I called the store earlier this week and they told me they were expecting their first shipment next week (which jives with some of the info above).

May be worth a shot if there are any Apple stores in your area. If not, I have always had good luck with MacConnection.

regards,

JT

JT.

Per your advice I did just that, but the Apple store in SF does not have a waiting. They said to check back often starting in a week or two.

MacConnection were very honest and told me the first shipment of 2.5s were sold but offered to me put on the list for the next shipment.

CDW were less than honest and told me if I gave them my order the "2.5 could be there on Monday" which sounded fishy so I said I'd wait. They emailed me a "quote" (their idea) and conveniently added AppleCare to it (which I didn't order).

I called the Apple Store and a guy called Darren told me they were "available now". "Really, so they're shipping?" "No, but they're available" When I said 'thanks I'll call back' he hung up in my ear. ...scumbag.

JCT
Jul 16, 2004, 10:20 PM
That sucks. I had figured it was something that all of the retail stores did. :mad:

Kind of odd, I wonder if the NH Apple Store's willingness to run a list is because they're not one of the high-volume "flagship" stores like SF, Chicago or NYC?

I remember when the iPod minis were released one of the other NY Apple Stores would let you reserve one but would only hold it for 24 hours.

I'm not surprised at your experience with CDW, I deal with both MacConnection and CDW for my educational purchases at work and I far, far prefer dealing with MacConnection. Delightful people there and as you surmised, totally honest.

Good luck,

JT

Wardofsky
Jul 16, 2004, 10:40 PM
I can't wait for the influx of Liquid Cooling photos that appear on the net :D
Now we just have to wait until they find their way over the seas to us :p

Or I could always settle for a few cluster nodes.

G5support.com
Jul 17, 2004, 12:07 AM
Will any owners of a new liquid cooled 2.5GHz please post any pictures or impressions of your new unit when you receive them. Thank you! :)

http://g5support.com/group/viewtopic.php?p=2565

invaLPsion
Jul 17, 2004, 10:48 AM
I can't wait for the influx of Liquid Cooling photos that appear on the net :D
Now we just have to wait until they find their way over the seas to us :p

Or I could always settle for a few cluster nodes.

Actually, I've only seen one person on this site who actually has their G5. We are still waiting in the States... :(

klaus
Jul 17, 2004, 10:52 AM
invalpsion : the post you mentioned where a guy said he had received its 2.5, isn't really true, I guess he must of changed it back to a 2x2.0 and he stated he got a 2x2.0 instead of the 2x2.5 he wanted from his company :)

is that the guy you are talking about who already has its g5 or are you talking about jimsowdens company, who received 2 powermac 2.5s (possibly mistake by apple of some kind)

pighuddle
Jul 17, 2004, 10:54 AM
Check in the hardware forums under the thread "tons of new hardware today." The guy got his dual 2.5!!!! :eek:

He was mistaken. It turned out to be a 2.0. Awww.

invaLPsion
Jul 17, 2004, 11:40 AM
invalpsion : the post you mentioned where a guy said he had received its 2.5, isn't really true, I guess he must of changed it back to a 2x2.0 and he stated he got a 2x2.0 instead of the 2x2.5 he wanted from his company :)

is that the guy you are talking about who already has its g5 or are you talking about jimsowdens company, who received 2 powermac 2.5s (possibly mistake by apple of some kind)

Nice catch, Klaus. You're right, it wasn't a dual 2.5 that he received, he tricked me. :D

So as of now nobody has received their G5s besides the insiders like Jim.

snowdog
Jul 17, 2004, 12:03 PM
I would say that is good news. If they are ready to credit your card it give cause for a smile. The overwhelming majority of companies including Apple don't dot hat until they are ready to make your custom order. That is only fair, if they are going to do a custom then they should know that they will be paid. Shipping should be soon to follow.

My VISA card was debited on the 12th of july, still no 2.5 - so I wouldn't hope to much...

pighuddle
Jul 17, 2004, 12:08 PM
Snowdog. When did you order?

brykken
Jul 17, 2004, 12:35 PM
This COULD be great news! I checked my account after reading the previous post and it was debited today! Actually it is a "pending" transaction so they could only be checking to make sure the money is there... either way, we might be seeing the 2.5's soon!

/me crosses fingers

wdlove
Jul 17, 2004, 12:54 PM
My VISA card was debited on the 12th of july, still no 2.5 - so I wouldn't hope to much...

Have you checked the status of your order online? After all we are getting very close to the end of the month, now just 14 days.

G5support.com
Jul 17, 2004, 03:01 PM
Tip for 2.5GHz Liquid Cooled G5 Owners

Purchase the AppleCare Warranty!

Why? $$$$ Answer >> (http://g5support.com/group/viewtopic.php?t=786)

Ge4-ce
Jul 17, 2004, 04:51 PM
People people.. I really think that if you got a problem with leakage etc. you'll get it right away and in the normal warranty. I think they did think over the system well enough that it will not break by normal use. I mean come on.. How can it get broke when it just sits there? It can always break offcourse, but what are the odds??

It's just because someone says: "Liquid" that everyone goes spooky and sees leaking G5's and a room full of toxic fluids all over the place, Cats and dogs death by drinking it..

Think about it as a normal fridge.. how many fridges do you know that actually leak cooling fluid??????? I hope for you not many..

And again.. do you think apple would place this entire processor+ cooling etc. in ONE part if they were not sure that the odds something would go wrong are very very low??

Besides, liquid cooling is not a new invetion. It has been used for years in high-end servers.

Duff-Man
Jul 17, 2004, 04:59 PM
How can it get broke when it just sits there?Duff-Man says...you know, I agree with your post for the most part....but on the bit I have quoted I would have to say....people *do* move their computers. From room to room, apartment to apartment...house to house etc etc....by themselves or by moving companies....oh yeah!

invaLPsion
Jul 17, 2004, 05:01 PM
Even if it is a different part number wouldn't it still be covered by the one year warranty? :confused:

mnstr_trd_sd
Jul 17, 2004, 05:12 PM
It was the 1.8 and 2.0 G5 model that also had the radiator look as the G5. It was an Apple Store employee told me that they don't yet have the 2.5.

Since I was at the convention Exhibit floor which was noisy. I held my ear next to the G5 and I didn't really notice any noise. The two fans in front of the radiator were running at a slow speed. So according to the Apple Specialist, that's what will make it quieter.


That's odd,:confused: I thought that only the dual 2.5's have the liquid cooling systems. Are you sure you didn't mistake it for the extra large heat-sinks?

parabolik
Jul 17, 2004, 06:05 PM
I placed my order for the dual 2.5 on 6/12 and still no change on the Apple Store Online ship date. I am also waiting for Verizon to get their butts in gear and release the Motorola v710 (first Verizon Bluetooth phone).

The overall anticipation to get these things will be the death of me.

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Home: Dual 1.25 G4 (OS X Boot only) FW 800, 20" Plastic Apple Cinema, 15" Plastic Apple LCD. Dual 80 GB ATA. Radeon 9000, 2 GB RAM, Pioneer DVD+/-RW, Stock Combo Drive.

jdhuskey
Jul 17, 2004, 08:35 PM
My VISA card was debited on the 12th of july, still no 2.5 - so I wouldn't hope to much...

I ordered on June 9th, the afternoon that the 2.5s were announced. My card has not been charged and my Est. Ship Date is still 7/30/04. I think this rumor was just the brainchild of a very cruel individual. :mad:

wdlove
Jul 17, 2004, 08:47 PM
People people.. I really think that if you got a problem with leakage etc. you'll get it right away and in the normal warranty. I think they did think over the system well enough that it will not break by normal use. I mean come on.. How can it get broke when it just sits there? It can always break offcourse, but what are the odds??

It's just because someone says: "Liquid" that everyone goes spooky and sees leaking G5's and a room full of toxic fluids all over the place, Cats and dogs death by drinking it..

Think about it as a normal fridge.. how many fridges do you know that actually leak cooling fluid??????? I hope for you not many..

And again.. do you think apple would place this entire processor+ cooling etc. in ONE part if they were not sure that the odds something would go wrong are very very low??

Besides, liquid cooling is not a new invention. It has been used for years in high-end servers.

I totally agree, Apple has thoroughly researched the liquid cooling. They would be selling something that wasn't tested. We will have AppleCare to back us up in case of any problems.

I did notice a notice inside the case of the liquid cooled 2.5, "If you notice any liquid leaking, shut off the machine immediately. Then contact Apple."

clr900
Jul 17, 2004, 08:58 PM
That moto v710 looks great and it's for Verizon. Im gonna have to get one.

Soire
Jul 17, 2004, 09:17 PM
So if I have a new G5 and a new display, they can both be put on applecare for what, $250 or so?

What's the deal with putting a full system on a warranty, and it only has to be started within the first year, under the original warranty?

...damn we're actually talking about applecare we're so desperate for G5 news... sad but true...

invaLPsion
Jul 17, 2004, 09:21 PM
So if I have a new G5 and a new display, they can both be put on applecare for what, $250 or so?

What's the deal with putting a full system on a warranty, and it only has to be started within the first year, under the original warranty?

...damn we're actually talking about applecare we're so desperate for G5 news... sad but true...

NEWS ABOUT THE G5???!!!!!!!

Tell all or you will die!!!!!!!!! :mad:

:D ;) :p

(I really need that computer)

reelmagik
Jul 17, 2004, 11:08 PM
I went to my local Comp USA store in Delaware to order a Dual 2.5 GHZ G5 on June 26th, and the guy that ordered it said I would be charged after it was accepted by Apple. Well, about 4 days later a temporary charge of $3585.16 (total amount of new G5) appeared on my account, and 3 days after that a permanent charge of that same amount appeared. I am assuming this means that my machine is being built. I hope so anyway!

Soire
Jul 18, 2004, 03:35 AM
I went to my local Comp USA store in Delaware to order a Dual 2.5 GHZ G5 on June 26th, and the guy that ordered it said I would be charged after it was accepted by Apple. Well, about 4 days later a temporary charge of $3585.16 (total amount of new G5) appeared on my account, and 3 days after that a permanent charge of that same amount appeared. I am assuming this means that my machine is being built. I hope so anyway!

That doesn't sound good. That means they charged you two weeks ago and still no G5. :(

hervon
Jul 18, 2004, 07:21 AM
My credit card got charged yesterday evening! (Saterday)

I placed my order early on june 9th for my 'future' 2.5 G5 from the Online Educational Apple Store in Canada.

But my Order Status is still the same: 'Open'.

I don't think Apple would do the same thibg as Comp USA and charge the credit card before shipment is close to delivery. Am I wrong ?

I really think we are getting closer to this machine! ;)

snowdog
Jul 18, 2004, 08:19 AM
Snowdog. When did you order?

9th of june.

snowdog
Jul 18, 2004, 08:22 AM
Have you checked the status of your order online? After all we are getting very close to the end of the month, now just 14 days.

Are you kidding ;)
I'm checking the order-page three times a day :D

"On or before 02/08/2004"

Tim3308
Jul 18, 2004, 10:29 AM
...of the 2.5 debut.

Just got an e-mail from Macmall saying now Aug. 6th. Boy was this "rumor" horse *****

invaLPsion
Jul 18, 2004, 10:34 AM
...of the 2.5 debut.

Just got an e-mail from Macmall saying now Aug. 6th. Boy was this "rumor" horse *****

So much for the people from ClubMac saying "this Monday." I've never seen a rumor so blatantly wrong from MacRumors. I guess we will have to wait until 7/30... :( :mad:

Soire
Jul 18, 2004, 11:49 AM
WTF??!

Why not issue a retraction or say it was a rumor? It certaily isn't the truth, and it was even less true a week ago when it was a "story".

What's the deal Macrumors?

pighuddle
Jul 18, 2004, 11:53 AM
I totally agree, Apple has thoroughly researched the liquid cooling. They would be selling something that wasn't tested. We will have AppleCare to back us up in case of any problems.

I did notice a notice inside the case of the liquid cooled 2.5, "If you notice any liquid leaking, shut off the machine immediately. Then contact Apple."

Is this true (I saw no winky emoticon)? I think most were making a joke when they talk about leaking 2.5s but if really says that maybe it's a legit concern.

Re "thoroughly researched" I recall lots of unhappy campers with the first dual processor Macs and even the second gen "blowhole" Macs. ...the list goes on. The question is if this LC system meets the criteria of a 'major new hardware model'. Looking at that pic of the radiator that's going to be in future Macs I'd say so.

As far as AppleCare goes. That's not an issue, is it? We'll know if these machines are flawed long before the one year warranty is up.

...wdlove. you ordered your 2.5 already, huh.

Zapranoth
Jul 18, 2004, 04:27 PM
I, for one, am astonished that people have the audacity to be annoyed with the inaccuracy of an article on a RUMORS SITE. :mad:

Do you come here to get the official announcement?

No, you don't, because those come from Apple.

You come here for RUMORS.

Rumor (noun): A general public report of certain things, without any certainty as to their truth.

Feh. That's all I have to say about that. I'm waiting on my dual 2.5, too. Let's at least all be realistic and hope for shipping by 7/30 as promised -- and let's be pleasantly astonished if they ship earlier, because history teaches us that generally that's not how it happens.

Mr MacNabbit
Jul 18, 2004, 05:24 PM
WTF??!

Why not issue a retraction or say it was a rumor? It certaily isn't the truth, and it was even less true a week ago when it was a "story".

What's the deal Macrumors?

The clue is in the question and the name of the site I think... :rolleyes:

wdlove
Jul 18, 2004, 06:17 PM
Is this true (I saw no winky emoticon)? I think most were making a joke when they talk about leaking 2.5s but if really says that maybe it's a legit concern.

Re "thoroughly researched" I recall lots of unhappy campers with the first dual processor Macs and even the second gen "blowhole" Macs. ...the list goes on. The question is if this LC system meets the criteria of a 'major new hardware model'. Looking at that pic of the radiator that's going to be in future Macs I'd say so.

As far as AppleCare goes. That's not an issue, is it? We'll know if these machines are flawed long before the one year warranty is up.

...wdlove. you ordered your 2.5 already, huh.

Actually I haven't yet ordered my 2.5 yet. Usually not quick to make a decision. I agree that we will know if there are any problems long before the one year.

Soire
Jul 18, 2004, 08:00 PM
Okay as for questioning MacRumors, I only said that they should print a retraction as it was posted as confirmed news, like the iPod article, or the displays shipping. It wasn't treated as a rumor, which it is, and an untrue rumor at that.

Anywho, the Apple account system is down for the time being, stating:

Apple's Online and phone Order Status services are temporarily unavailable due to a scheduled upgrade to our systems.

We apologize for any inconvenience.

Has this ever meant anything? Anybody know?

iriejedi
Jul 18, 2004, 08:38 PM
I so love it when people mistake RUMOR for FACT! every thread I follow hits this wall at one point or another.

So here is my rumor for the week it is 6pm PST and the order status page is down for a scheduled upgrade... so I say this means they are fixing the bug that keeps telling people that what they order and pay for will not arrive for weeks and weeks after they place the order. So my dual 2.5 and 23 inch monitor should now ship tomorrow with this "scheduled upgrade"! :confused:

Hhahahahahahaha! So we will switch from despirate levels of patients to pages and pages of bost to make all our 2.0 and 1.8 brotheren jealous! :rolleyes:

Be patient - "if you order it... it will come" :p

Weeeeeee - one day closer to the day it will ship - whenever that actual date is....who knows but I promis you it was NOT yesterday!

Wait til you get the notice it ships and see how fun UPS groud service is! :eek: When the free two day upgrade gets accidentally overlooked!

Irie

The clue is in the question and the name of the site I think... :rolleyes:

Soire
Jul 19, 2004, 10:43 AM
I'll be honest. I just wanted to get this thread back to the front page.

2.5 what?...


on a side note, my 20" Alu. display arrived this morning, but it's lonely...

joco
Jul 19, 2004, 10:48 AM
Yea well I would really like to see MacRumors print a rescind. They have done it in the past!!!

DWKlink
Jul 19, 2004, 10:53 AM
I know, this waiting has been killing me too. I've been waiting since November to by a Rev b... through the disappointments in January and March with the expected updates never coming.

Then finally buying the first day they were announced in June... and waiting once again. I just hope that the 7/30 ship dates are accurate. I don't think i can wait much longer!

whookam
Jul 19, 2004, 10:57 AM
:(

Just spoke to my Reseller regarding ETA of dual 2.5 as they were due to recieve their first batch today. Sales person said they hadn't been released yet and would be shipping 'sometime this summer'. This sucks! I'm not even sure if we've reached summer yet as it's been pissing down all July in UK :mad:

Whookam

J_Berg
Jul 19, 2004, 11:07 AM
I was originally told by CDW that they were getting the first shipment of 2x2.5's in on 7/16. I waited the weekend to ask about it and emailed today. Here's the reply...
"It looks like they have pushed back the release date to 8/3"

AARRRGHHH!!!!! :mad:

Anyone else getting that?

joco
Jul 19, 2004, 11:09 AM
My order from Apple Store still says on or before 7/30.

belair
Jul 19, 2004, 12:31 PM
This is crap

Apple, please don't delay delivery,
I have been waiting since january,

I did order on the first day,
Please dont give us delay,
I just want my mac to play,
This two 2.5 will be here to stay,

If you have a heart at all,
Dont make me have to call,
Your apple store support line,
Or the macworld won't be fine,

I feel so sad with anticipation.


Tataaaaaa
:confused:
whatever, man

itsa
Jul 19, 2004, 01:34 PM
Just call around people!!
Apples not giving a date. Still saying July.. so I guess that's some hope.
However everyone else is saying the top of next month. I will be blown away to see any ship before mid Aug with Apples track record.

DWKlink
Jul 19, 2004, 02:15 PM
"My Apple rep emailed me stating this:
ETA – The latest ETA now is very late July"

Latest word from my Clubmac rep... 7/30 may still happen (fingers crossed)

Soire
Jul 19, 2004, 03:12 PM
So should I buy Applecare for my 2.5 and 20"? What's the deal with being a package together?

I know i could call and ask, but I need to keep my mind off of a lack of computer. So $250 to cover both the PM and a display for 3 years? Full coverage? And it can be bought within a year of buying the system??

Thanks for any info.

klaus
Jul 19, 2004, 03:15 PM
Jep, buying applecare on a system together with an apple display covers both.

Ok, it's 250$, but if you're spending 4500$ +, it's not something you can't overcome, I did it as well, it rests my mind, that I have 3 years of careless computing...

I bet my applecare contract is already at my reseller. Too bad the computer and the display haven't arrived yet :o

DWKlink
Jul 19, 2004, 03:53 PM
So should I buy Applecare for my 2.5 and 20"? What's the deal with being a package together?

I know i could call and ask, but I need to keep my mind off of a lack of computer. So $250 to cover both the PM and a display for 3 years? Full coverage? And it can be bought within a year of buying the system??

Thanks for any info.

I believe that if it's purchased afterwards then the monitor is not covered, only the computer. I think that it has to be purchased at the same time as the computer AND the monitor in order to cover the monitor.

pighuddle
Jul 19, 2004, 05:53 PM
"My Apple rep emailed me stating this:
ETA – The latest ETA now is very late July"

Latest word from my Clubmac rep... 7/30 may still happen (fingers crossed)

Hey DW or anyone else. Why did you order from Clubmac as opposed to Apple? I'm wondering what the quickest way is to get the 2.5 when it starts shipping. Is there any reason why the big retailers would be get it out sooner (or later) than the on-line Apple Store? I could save money if I bought it out of state from somehwhere like B&H say but I'm wondering where in the queue the retailers are. -thanks

DWKlink
Jul 19, 2004, 07:24 PM
Hey DW or anyone else. Why did you order from Clubmac as opposed to Apple? I'm wondering what the quickest way is to get the 2.5 when it starts shipping. Is there any reason why the big retailers would be get it out sooner (or later) than the on-line Apple Store? I could save money if I bought it out of state from somehwhere like B&H say but I'm wondering where in the queue the retailers are. -thanks

I'm not sure what the "quickest" method would be. I have a feeling that everyone who ordered early will get them around the same time no matter where they ordered from - give or take a few days. I would assume that the best chance you have to get one if you ordered right now is to deal directly with Apple, as it might be difficult to get a unit from the reseller's first shipment (and since we have no idea when the first shipment is even coming - who knows when the 2nd will be here). Apple is currently listing a shipment time of 4-6 weeks for orders placed today.

The reason I personally ordered from Clubmac was because I don't need it right away, and by ordering from Clubmac I got a free gig of ram as well as no sales tax and an additional $100 off the price. Saving hundreds of dollars was worth the possibilty of having to wait a few extra days (if it turns out to be a few exra weeks then I'll be pretty upset though!)

Good luck - no matter what you choose your gonna get an awsome machine!

Soire
Jul 20, 2004, 12:50 AM
Okay, could I get a count or estimate of how many people's credit cards were billed for their order? And I'm assuming those that were billed were all stock machines with a delivery date of 7/30...

just wondering...

MacinDoc
Jul 20, 2004, 01:14 AM
Jep, buying applecare on a system together with an apple display covers both.

Ok, it's 250$, but if you're spending 4500$ +, it's not something you can't overcome, I did it as well, it rests my mind, that I have 3 years of careless computing...

I bet my applecare contract is already at my reseller. Too bad the computer and the display haven't arrived yet :o
Now, don't be too careless with that shiny new mac. ;)

Care-free computing, on the other hand...that's something I could go for. :)

partyfart
Jul 20, 2004, 01:45 AM
2.5DPG5/512MB/160/SD/R9600XT/PCI-X-NLD M9457N/A

On or before 08/13/2004

Status: open...
!! No shipping yet !! :mad:

klaus
Jul 20, 2004, 01:48 AM
partyfart, when did you order? It seems that the ones who ordered early still have a date of 30/7

did you order later?

Zapranoth
Jul 20, 2004, 02:57 AM
Okay, could I get a count or estimate of how many people's credit cards were billed for their order? And I'm assuming those that were billed were all stock machines with a delivery date of 7/30...

just wondering...


I ordered mine on 6/21, and my estimated shipping date is, like most, 7/30 (I ordered a dual 2.5 with a Radeon 9800 XT, otherwise stock).

My credit card has not as yet been billed.

Any other thirtysomethings here will relate to the lyrics I now recite:

"All we need is just a little patience..." :p

DWKlink
Jul 20, 2004, 06:15 AM
Any other thirtysomethings here will relate to the lyrics I now recite:

"All we need is just a little patience..." :p

Hey, there are still some twentysomethings who can relate to that too :p
(Although 30 isn't too far away!)

hardchemist
Jul 20, 2004, 06:54 AM
Ordered my 2.5 on July 1st from the Apple Store with stock video and RAM, 250GB HD upgrade, minus the modem. I still see a delivery date of "on or before 7/30."

BTW At the same time I ordered an extra 4GB of RAM (2 matched pairs for $720 shipped) and a Raptor 10,000 RPM 74GB HD ($165 shipped after rebate).

Already received the extra HD and RAM :D

My credit card has NOT been billed for the computer - but the charge for the computer has been "pending" ever since I placed the order. I'll be watching my statement carefully; once that charge clears I'm sure that means the computer will be shipped shortly thereafter.

Cheers

solo-act
Jul 20, 2004, 11:07 AM
REAL, NON-RUMOR INFO.

Both stores in Denver do NOT have the dual 2.5. And my order (from 6-26) is still showing "on or before 7/30/04".

JCT
Jul 20, 2004, 11:20 AM
More "real" info.

I'm on the "list" at an Apple Retail Store in the Northeast and until today I was being told that they were expecting shipment this week. Today they changed that to late next week (e.g. the end of the month), but seemed pretty solid on that.

Whatever "solid" means at this point. ;)

JT

invaLPsion
Jul 20, 2004, 11:21 AM
So it looks like we will actually end up waiting til 7/30/04...

Only 10 days... :D

nkgmd
Jul 20, 2004, 11:37 AM
I ordered 2.5 with 6800 ultra, airport, bluetooth and 250g HD. This is a replacement for a returned 2.0 G5, not ordered through the Apple Store, but through tech support My card was charged on 7/15 (for the upgrade extras) and I was told the expected date is still 8/6, but that sometimes it can be much sooner than this date.

itsa
Jul 20, 2004, 11:37 AM
More "real" info.

I'm on the "list" at an Apple Retail Store in the Northeast and until today I was being told that they were expecting shipment this week. Today they changed that to late next week (e.g. the end of the month), but seemed pretty solid on that.

Whatever "solid" means at this point. ;)

JT


They "seemed pretty solid" when the said by the 15th.

JCT
Jul 20, 2004, 11:42 AM
They "seemed pretty solid" when the said by the 15th..

Hence the ;) .

Hope these suckers are worth the wait...


JT

whookam
Jul 20, 2004, 11:48 AM
Ok, my ETA from Jigsaw24 has changed from 19/07 to 03/08. But since the first date was speculation i assume this one is too.

I guess they need to enter something on the system.

jbeetz
Jul 20, 2004, 12:00 PM
Arrgh!! - it's getting unbearable waiting!! :) - I never had to wait for a Mac before - but then I never ordered a top of the line before either!.... I am bloody dreaming about the thing! lol! :rolleyes:

oiy'vey. I waited over three months for my Macintosh, with 128k of RAM and a 400k floppy drive, 9 inch screen. June to August somehow doesn't seem that bad!

clr900
Jul 20, 2004, 12:59 PM
I think I will be ordering this week with the 6800 ultra. I hope I get it at least sometime in August. I'm not getting Applecare initially but I plan to get it sometime within the first year. However, I was wondering if Applecare adds an additional 3 years to your one free first year, making a total of 4 covered years, or does it only give you 3 total?

Mr MacNabbit
Jul 20, 2004, 01:27 PM
oiy'vey. I waited over three months for my Macintosh, with 128k of RAM and a 400k floppy drive, 9 inch screen. June to August somehow doesn't seem that bad

I know - but in reality, I have been waiting since they bought out the G5 last year, and by January I, Like most others expected rev 2, so allthough this is the short home stretch, it still seems like a loooooong time! :)

I was wondering if Applecare adds an additional 3 years to your one free first year, making a total of 4 covered years, or does it only give you 3 total?

3 total I think - that is what most extended warranties offer.

Kosh66
Jul 20, 2004, 01:51 PM
I think I will be ordering this week with the 6800 ultra. I hope I get it at least sometime in August. I'm not getting Applecare initially but I plan to get it sometime within the first year. However, I was wondering if Applecare adds an additional 3 years to your one free first year, making a total of 4 covered years, or does it only give you 3 total?

It gives you 3 years total. But also remember, unless you buy Applecare right away, you only get phone support for 90 days. With Applecare bought right away, you get phone support for 3 years. But then again, I've hardly ever used the phone support.

http://www.apple.com/support/products/proplan.html

aussiemac86
Jul 20, 2004, 05:41 PM
Yeh my reseller said originally they would have been here last week, now he said conservatively they should be here be the end of week 4 july (the 30th)....if they push the date back again i am going to lose it arghhhhhh

iriejedi
Jul 20, 2004, 05:45 PM
three years from date of purchase regardless of when you activate it - having it active just makes any needs easier to take care of - if it breaks like at months 9 you have to get it activated before you can get it fixed - vs just getting it fixed.

So I've been told.... buit like I said in the title - I would like to be wrong.

I think I will be ordering this week with the 6800 ultra. I hope I get it at least sometime in August. I'm not getting Applecare initially but I plan to get it sometime within the first year. However, I was wondering if Applecare adds an additional 3 years to your one free first year, making a total of 4 covered years, or does it only give you 3 total?

itsa
Jul 20, 2004, 09:46 PM
Ordered my 2.5 on July 1st from the Apple Store with stock video and RAM, 250GB HD upgrade, minus the modem. I still see a delivery date of "on or before 7/30."

Cheers

Meanwhile... Is your warranty wasting away?

Jacasey
Jul 20, 2004, 11:12 PM
Where's the best place to get the best price on 2 gigs of RAM for new 2.5 G5?

Will any old PC 3200 DDR400 do the trick?

Ordered 6/14 from Apple Education store.

Still says on or before 7/30.

JC :confused:

gossas
Jul 21, 2004, 03:23 AM
Ok, my ETA from Jigsaw24 has changed from 19/07 to 03/08. But since the first date was speculation i assume this one is too.

I guess they need to enter something on the system.

The 03/08 date is the same as the ship date quoted on my order at Apple Online, now mine is a CTO and with the UK shipping lag the date is realistic. So if Apple can ship UK by the end of July and the resellers can get their act together then you may receive your machine in the first week of August.
Though I wouldn't hold out any hope as the displays are theoretically shipping but there is no sign of them at the moment.

DWKlink
Jul 21, 2004, 05:46 AM
Does anyone here think that there is a correlation between the release of 10.3.5 and the release of the new PMs? I know people at WWDC said that the 2.5s they used were running 10.3.5 and it was still buggy. There have already been 2 developer seeds of the build, so I'm assuming it should be released in the next week or so.

Maybe there's code critical to the LCS in this release, and we are waiting for the software to be completed before the machines can ship. I don't know... I guess I'm just trying to pass the time and justify the wait... ;) .

kylector
Jul 21, 2004, 08:27 AM
Jacasey: Crucial RAM seems to be the most preferred. Sometimes cheap additional RAM can cause the freezing problems many owners are experiencing and Crucial RAM seems to be what plays best with the G5. http://www.crucial.com/

~Shard~
Jul 21, 2004, 08:35 AM
Jacasey: Crucial RAM seems to be the most preferred. Sometimes cheap additional RAM can cause the freezing problems many owners are experiencing and Crucial RAM seems to be what plays best with the G5. http://www.crucial.com/

As has been stated many times in the discusison forums, Apple uses Crucial RAM in their machines. You do get what you pay for, and Crucial is very good RAM. RAM is definitely something you don't want to cheap out on!

Mr MacNabbit
Jul 21, 2004, 09:17 AM
As has been stated many times in the discusison forums, Apple uses Crucial RAM in their machines. You do get what you pay for, and Crucial is very good RAM. RAM is definitely something you don't want to cheap out on!

Hmmm - I never heard of that before, but I will check them out - I ordered an additional gig of Kingston RAM, which I always thought was supposed to be a great brand!??

parabolik
Jul 21, 2004, 09:32 AM
Apple charged my account this morning! I think this must be good news. I would think that this meens they will ship it soon. Does anyone have a guess how long it usually is between the time they charge you and the time they ship? My ESD is still 7/30.

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MrSugar
Jul 21, 2004, 09:35 AM
Hmmm - I never heard of that before, but I will check them out - I ordered an additional gig of Kingston RAM, which I always thought was supposed to be a great brand!??

Kingston is very good RAM, it's just well known that Crucial ram works well very well with Apple computers. However, I can't agree that Apple uses crucial ram in their systems, I believe they use a different brand...

Soire
Jul 21, 2004, 09:59 AM
Apple charged my account this morning! I think this must be good news. I would think that this meens they will ship it soon. Does anyone have a guess how long it usually is between the time they charge you and the time they ship? My ESD is still 7/30.

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Home: Dual 1.25 G4 (OS X Boot only) FW 800, 20" Plastic Apple Cinema, 15" Plastic Apple LCD. Dual 80 GB ATA. Radeon 9000, 2 GB RAM, Pioneer DVD+/-RW, Stock Combo Drive.


Listen to me very carefully: Did they charge your account, or did they merely put an inquisitive hold on the money? There is a difference, and the latter one means absolutely zilch.

But if they truly did CHARGE you then I would like to know what and when you ordered. Thank you. :)

invaLPsion
Jul 21, 2004, 10:00 AM
Kingston is very good RAM, it's just well known that Crucial ram works well very well with Apple computers. However, I can't agree that Apple uses crucial ram in their systems, I believe they use a different brand...

I heard someone on here say that it is a brand called Hypnix or something like that...

9 days till 7/30...