Online Ad Evidence of Imminent iMac, Mac Mini and MacBook Updates?

[MacRumors]

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/10/03/online-ad-evidence-of-imminent-imac-mac-mini-and-macbook-updates/)

Feeding into recent rumors (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/09/25/macbook-update-to-be-released-alongside-new-imacs/) of imminent iMac, MacBook and Mac Mini updates, some new online ads have been spotted at Google.nl (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/10/03/apple_ads_hint_at_thinner_imacs_lighter_macbooks_cheaper_mac_minis.html) that potentially point to new versions of these products. While Apple's Google text ads always refer to their products as "new", these specific ads do highlight features that have not been the focus of previous revisions. The translations provided by AppleInsider describe the possible changes:MacBook: Thinner, lighter and stronger! Free delivery. Order today.
iMac: Ultra Thin 20 & 24 inch models. From only € 1099. Apple Store
Mac mini: Faster and more affordable than ever. From only € 499. Order immediately.Of note, the current price of the Mac mini in the Netherlands online store is € 599.

These imminent updates were first reported (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/09/15/analyst-imac-and-macbook-updates-coming-within-weeks/) back in September with the iMac specifically described as "thinner, organic design, likely with smoothed or rounded edges".

Article Link: Online Ad Evidence of Imminent iMac, Mac Mini and MacBook Updates? (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/10/03/online-ad-evidence-of-imminent-imac-mac-mini-and-macbook-updates/)

[greg400]

"iMac: Ultra Thin 20 & 24 inch models. From only € 1099. Apple Store"

I called it. They are just going to make it thinner. I doubt anything else will be upgraded besides the keyboard, mouse and remote alongside it. Glad I purchased my iMac in June, seeing as how I really couldn't care less on how thin it is.

[spriter]

The Mini needs a price drop.

[harodude]

If it's true, I think it's about time I upgrade my 20" iMac to a more current rev! Can't wait to see what comes out

[Rojo]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7C144 Safari/528.16)

Of course I just bought an iMac last month. Oh well...I'm happy with it...

[*LTD*]

This should be very interesting. Can't wait to see the exterior redesign.

[iMacmatician]

Mac mini price drop to $499?

And if the iMac gets thinner will the maximum CPU TDP that can fit in it drop from 55 W?

[AAPLaday]

Ugh i dont like the sound of the 'Ultra Thin' iMac :(

[C. Alan]

Dammit Scotty! I need more power! (or at least two more cores...)

Still crossing my fingers and hoping for a quad core..

[slapguts]

Unibody iMacs?

Sounds neat.

[Terminal.app]

Ugh. Four cores please. Who cares how thin it is.

[Jordan the Nerd]

This is great! Surely the new products can't be far away now, maybe Monday?

Thats funny, why does the Netherlands have the same price in the US when the currency is different?

$499 is the price they had on the first G4 mini, so it makes sense.

- Jordan

[iMacmatician]

Still crossing my fingers and hoping for a quad core..AppleInsider says dual-core, although other places say quad-core. Personally I believe AppleInsider more.

[malcolm123]

Soooo nothing on the MBP, then? Phew... guess I won't cancel my order then.

[chstr]

seriously? making the imac thinner is just retarded. who cares????

[717]

"Krachtiger' in Dutch translates to "more powerful". Not "stronger".

[dwd3885]

AppleInsider says dual-core, although other places say quad-core. Personally I believe AppleInsider more.

a dual core iMac is not going to be a good upgrade for current al iMac users. It's not a 'must' upgrade unless it's quad.

[AAPLaday]

Come on Apple i want the new imac to be more powerful than a dell LAPTOP :rolleyes:

[beginnersview]

[Mac mini: Faster and more affordable than ever.

This may be the one I've been waiting for!

I've felt for some time that the Mini has huge potential, but has been hobbled by (a) too high price for the hardware you get, (b) too little focus from Apple, leaving it languishing in the doldrums too long, (c) ludicrous 'high-end' version of Spring 2009 model, where you paid $200 just to get an extra gig of Ram and larger HD while CPU stayed same.

So I hope they really do give it some 'muscle' and an appealing (read lower) price.

Re. iMac becoming ultra-thin. That, to me, seems just dumb.
The iMac has been having heat issues (in the ones I've used) so making it thinner seems a poor engineering choice. Besides, it provides no tangible benefit to user... to use the computer, one views the front of the machine, not the side view (who uses their computer by staring at it sideways...) ;)

But maybe the engineers have created a miracle and allow it to be more powerful without hotter.
One can hope that actual power efficiency and better CPU throughput are at least somewhere high on the list (below of course the 'top-priority' of thin and artsy design :p ).

[zw-gator]

My prediction:

Quad core iMac only in the most expensive model

[dlewis23]

Dual core in the two lower versions of the iMac, quad in the higher end versions.

[wesleyh]

Well, i just did the search for "nieuwe macbook", and it shows the same macbook ad but for a macbook air.


De Nieuwe MacBook Air
Dunner, lichter en krachtiger!
Gratis bezorging. Bestel vandaag.
store.apple.com/nl/macbook_air

Anyway, are we sure these ads are new?

[willybNL]

Is it just me or is a google ad-buyer spending more money than he needs:

==========GOOGLE.nl 'Mac Mini'=============
Het internet

Gesponsorde links

1.
Apple's Nieuwe Mac Mini
store.apple.com/nl-store Sneller en betaalbaarder dan ooit. Vanaf slechts €499. Bestel meteen.

Zoekresultaten

1.
Apple - Mac mini - De energiezuinigste desktop en voordeligste Mac
Mac mini heeft nu een nog snellere NVIDIA grafische processor, waardoor hij met gemak de allernieuwste 3D-games en veeleisende grafische programma's aankan. ...
www.apple.com/nl/macmini/ - In cache - Vergelijkbaar
Technische specificaties
Kenmerken
Mac OS X + iLife

Accessoires
Vormgeving
Meer resultaten van apple.com »
2.
Apple - Mac mini - Technische specificaties
De volgende kenmerken beperken de schadelijke gevolgen van de Mac mini voor het milieu: ... Garantie en service, Mac mini wordt geleverd met 90 dagen gratis ...
www.apple.com/nl/macmini/specs.html - In cache - Vergelijkbaar
3.
Mac mini - Apple Store (Nederland)
Koop een Mac mini en je krijgt een klein pakketje met enorme kracht. Selecteer een standaardconfiguratie en pas deze vervolgens aan al naar gelang je ...
store.apple.com/nl/browse/...mac/.../mac_mini - In cache - Vergelijkbaar
=========================


So... the first 3 results are apple's own... but they buy an ad just before it.
I wonder, why spend that kind of money?

[brendanspah764]

So anyone have any ideas on when these new Macs will come out. I am in the market for a new MacBook! I need to replace this eMac of mine...

[johnrs]

if they dont give the iMac a spec bump that include better GPU & CPU then I think its going to be an epic fail by apple... Its just going to be left standing as all other computers are going to be i5 & i7 based

[greg400]

if they dont give the iMac a spec bump that include better GPU & CPU then I think its going to be an epic fail by apple... Its just going to be left standing as all other computers are going to be i5 & i7 based
The iMac is one of the most powerful AIO computers you can buy at the moment.

[Eidorian]

if they dont give the iMac a spec bump that include better GPU & CPU then I think its going to be an epic fail by apple... Its just going to be left standing as all other computers are going to be i5 & i7 basedI wonder how Apple will deal with this.

[The Samurai]

Nice - Appleinsider has the actual images.

Look forward to the changes.

[wesleyh]

Well, just got another ad for the imac:


Nieuwe Ultradunne iMac
store.apple.com/belgium-store Sneller en betaalbaarder dan ooit. Vanaf slechts €1099. Bestel meteen

New ultrathin imac
Faster & cheaper than ever.
From 1099 euro.

Dont see how that's cheaper from the current price.. Seems like an old ad?

[Cougarcat]

The iMac is one of the most powerful AIO computers you can buy at the moment.

Not in terms of its graphics cards.

John Gruber is predicting blu-ray players. But based on this, I think it's going to be a yawner of an update...

[greg400]

Not in terms of its graphics cards.

John Gruber is predicting blu-ray players. But based on this, I think it's going to be a yawner of an update...If you go with the 9400M or GT120 then sure, obviously not.

[dwd3885]

My prediction:

Quad core iMac only in the most expensive model

I would agree with you. Low end model 20" for $1099, 24" for $1399, then two other 24" configs and the quad core ones being $1699/$1999. If they go that route, a Mac Pro is in my future, NOT an iMac.

[Saladinos]

Cheaper mini is win.

Especially if its faster, too.

[racer1441]

In line for a macbook and a mini!

[CWallace]

I wonder how Apple will deal with this.

Sell even more? :p

Did the MacBook Pro get to Penryn before the iMac did? It seems kind of odd that Apple would update their entire consumer line except the MacBook Pro to Core i5 / i7.

[johnrs]

The iMac is one of the most powerful AIO computers you can buy at the moment.

regardless I will still be getting an iMac when the new ones come out. Just sold my MBP & some other stuff to get one and have been waiting for the past 2 in the hope that it gets a GFX bump and a CPU bump..

fingers crossed

[Lesser Evets]

This "thinner" design hang-up at Apple is now officially ridiculous. Unless someone totes the iMac about and plugs it in, maybe a trucker at truck stops and such, it makes no sense to work the iMac thinner. No one is presently bitching about how cumbersome the width or weight is....

However, this might be an engineering step in a direction which will create, in 4 or 5 years, a portable desktop tablet affair.

I just wish they would give us more value in the iMac: more drives, a card slot, etc.

[achtung!]

imacs need speed bumps, 'cause they're really lazy machines, especially the graphic card! jesus. what about a matte display as an option? i hope so. mirror sucks for printing.

cheers

[Dont Hurt Me]

Whats the point of a thinner desktop? I dont get that part at all except maybe cheaper to build using less material. Must admit im very curious about the new iMac.

[Trexznl]

Lol, if this is true, The Netherlands will have another Apple scoop. :cool:

+Rept. for The Netherlands. (And no, it's not just Amsterdam..).

Anyway, looking forward to see if this stuff is real. I'm primarily interested in the new MacBooks, not because I'm going to buy one, but just to see what they are going to do with the current plastic enclosure.

[wizard]

"iMac: Ultra Thin 20 & 24 inch models. From only € 1099. Apple Store"

I called it. They are just going to make it thinner. I doubt anything else will be upgraded besides the keyboard, mouse and remote alongside it. Glad I purchased my iMac in June, seeing as how I really couldn't care less on how thin it is.

I wouldn't be so quick to claim this. People are likely to be very hostile if Apple delivers another Core2Duo.


Dave

[IWantItThatWay]

My bet is that it includes 3 year old PC specs, for the price of $1100 of course.

[WeegieMac]

Nice - Appleinsider has the actual images.

Look forward to the changes.

Of the new systems themselves?!

Might head over there for a peek.

[BJWanlund]

Here's my opinion on the issue of MacBooks & Mac Minis:

Mac Mini: At $599 it is absurdly overpriced, especially since you HAVE to buy keyboards, mice, & monitors separately. Why oh why can't Apple provide a voucher for the keyboard, mouse, & monitor to help the assumption that this is the cheapest Mac around?! :mad: Also, why don't Apple put in a 9600M GT along with the 9400M that is currently in these Mac Minis?? If they did, this computer would be one heck of a LAN party box and it would help destroy the stereotype that Macs are sh&t for gaming.

MacBook: I have one of the black MacBooks from 2006, and I would probably not hesitate to replace it with a new MB if and ONLY if the cracking issues are fixed!

BJ

[The Samurai]

Of the new systems themselves?!

Might head over there for a peek.

My bad - I meant the images of the dutch text on Google.

[AAPLaday]

Hey its the new Imac (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH7jO7X2vw8) :D

[WeegieMac]

My bad - I meant the images of the dutch text on Google.

Ah, no problem mate ... just had a look myself and yeah, dutch Google pages giving some new descriptions.

Probably just Apple's web crew testing out the code for the new pages ahead of their official launch alongside the new products.

[Hrududu]

seriously? making the imac thinner is just retarded. who cares????
Exactly!! Its a desktop computer, meaning it doesn't need to be thin and light. If they were still as thick as the original G5 it wouldn't really matter. They're just out of ideas.

[tod]

Why do so many people criticize great minimalist products like the Mac mini or the Macbook Air? I love the idea of eliminating useless things like optical drives and empty space in computers.

My next purchase will be a maxed-out Mac mini. I don't care that for "only" a few hundred more I could get an iMac or a Macbook. I don't care that it lacks a super fast graphics card; I don't play games. What it has now is plenty fast, and with 4 GB of ram in there, I think it'll do just fine on performance.

The Mac mini is simple and perfect, almost like the NeXTcube or G4 cube reincarnated. For those who hate it so much, try to understand why it appeals to people like me. There is no need for nasty comments.

[sam10685]

Ugh. Four cores please. Who cares how thin it is.


Who cares how many cores it has?? Over 99% of the people that buy computers can't tell one way or another or don't even know what that means. Thinner will be so much more appealing than quad core.

[bobertoq]

I don't care if a desktop is thinner. I'm not going to be putting it in my pocket. You know what I want to see from Apple? A cheap mid-end tower. Tape an LCD to the side. Then you have a cheap iMac!

[IWantItThatWay]

This "thinner" design hang-up at Apple is now officially ridiculous. Unless someone totes the iMac about and plugs it in, maybe a trucker at truck stops and such, it makes no sense to work the iMac thinner. No one is presently bitching about how cumbersome the width or weight is....

However, this might be an engineering step in a direction which will create, in 4 or 5 years, a portable desktop tablet affair.

I just wish they would give us more value in the iMac: more drives, a card slot, etc.

Apple has always been style over substance.

[ziggyonice]

New MacBook really needs to happen. The look of that machine has gone on for far too long, and something really needs to be done about the plastic cracks along the palm rest. Do this, while lowering the price another $100 or $200 and you'll have a hot ticket item.

[jdm111]

Screen shots:
http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=197394&stc=1&d=1254605563

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=197395&stc=1&d=1254605563

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=197396&stc=1&d=1254605563

[dwd3885]

Who cares how many cores it has?? Over 99% of the people that buy computers can't tell one way or another or don't even know what that means. Thinner will be so much more appealing than quad core.

99% of the people who buy computers won't care that it's 1/8 inch thinner.

[bobertoq]

Who cares how many cores it has?? Over 99% of the people that buy computers can't tell one way or another or don't even know what that means. Thinner will be so much more appealing than quad core.You're forgetting the normal ignorant computer user isn't the normal Mac user. I most certainly would like a quad-core. I wouldn't be surprised if you say the exact opposite when Apple puts a quad-core in the iMac. I care much more about performance and price then how thin something I will never move is.

[hefeglass]

just got a mac mini a few months ago...
but since I am planning to buy one for the rents...i might just have to hand off this one to them and buy myself a new one when its out!

[iMacmatician]

Did the MacBook Pro get to Penryn before the iMac did? Yes it did, although the iMac update gave 1067 MHz FSB.

It seems kind of odd that Apple would update their entire consumer line except the MacBook Pro to Core i5 / i7.I'm fairly sure the MacBook and Mac mini will stay with Core 2 (more sure than with the iMac).

I wouldn't be so quick to claim this. People are likely to be very hostile if Apple delivers another Core2Duo.Any guesses on the length of the complaint threads?

CPU possibilities from pessimistic to optimistic:

Penryn, little or no change, still 3.07 GHz maximum
Penryn, small update, 3.2/3.33 GHz maximum
Clarksfield
Arrandale (early)
Arrandale (early) and Clarksfield
Desktop CPUs


The bold possibility is my current prediction.

[Dont Hurt Me]

The Only reason I can thin of for a thin iMac is to hang it on the wall....hmmm. I use my 20" as a TV everyday.

[DaBrain]

Honest Question All:

How many Apps right now actually utilize dual cores and or Quad Cores?

I was under the assumption that apps have to be written in proper code in order to utilize multi cores and threads.

Is that assumption wrong?

[ticklemonster]

I will be interested to see what happens to the MacBook.:apple:

[billystlyes]

I've said it once, I'll say it again. I could care less about AIO desktop computers. I'm glad to see the Mac mini getting some love though.

[Karukuubis]

Same Ad on the UK Google site about the MacBook :)

Crap Google Translation
apple.spot.ee (http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=et&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fapple.spot.ee%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fp%3D71711%23p71711&sl=et&tl=en&history_state0=&swap=1)

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9420/screenshot20091004at006.png

[powers74]

It's only 2" thick eherm, thin as it is!

Honestly.

[shaunymac]

Why do so many people criticize great minimalist products like the Mac mini or the Macbook Air? I love the idea of eliminating useless things like optical drives and empty space in computers.

My next purchase will be a maxed-out Mac mini. I don't care that for "only" a few hundred more I could get an iMac or a Macbook. I don't care that it lacks a super fast graphics card; I don't play games. What it has now is plenty fast, and with 4 GB of ram in there, I think it'll do just fine on performance.

The Mac mini is simple and perfect, almost like the NeXTcube or G4 cube reincarnated. For those who hate it so much, try to understand why it appeals to people like me. There is no need for nasty comments.

And people like me!

I don't have a mac mini but have always loved them.

If you are an apple fan, you should know by now that their design minimalistic. That is one reason why I love my apple products so much. Probably 75%. They just look good sitting on your desk. Love it.

Oh, and some people live in small spaces. Like me! I live in a studio. So when they decided to shave inches, that is welcomed news to me.

[zw-gator]

I think people are underestimating the demand for quad cores.

Just wait for Apple's marketing people to spin it and before you know it, you'll wonder how anyone got by with just a duo core in their desktop.

[sushiman]

Come on Apple i want the new imac to be more powerful than a dell LAPTOP :rolleyes:

LOL ! :D

[AAPLaday]

We want 4, we want 4 :D

[baryon]

I wonder what Apple is going to do with the MacBooks. If they go Unibody, then we're getting a MacBook Pro again, aren't we? Or will they just make 13" MacBook Pros without FireWire and all that Pro stuff, and basically we'll have the 13" Unibody MacBooks again (the ones that first came out and now are called MacBook Pros)?

I mean if you look at the low end 13" MacBook Pros, they're pretty much just Unibody MacBooks aren't they? Except for the FireWire, but the white MacBooks also have FireWire... So what will make the new MacBook "MacBook" and not "MacBook Pro"?

[Dont Hurt Me]

I think people are underestimating the demand for quad cores.

Just wait for Apple's marketing people to spin it and before you know it, you'll wonder how anyone got by with just a duo core in their desktop.Lets face it todays iMac has more power then 95% of the world even needs, 4 cores would just be icing on the cake. Gpu wise though Apple needs more then a 9400 in it.

[Macka3]

Thinner imac's.. Is this lowering the chance of us getting quad core and/or a decent gpu. Because if im not mistaken quad cores are obviously going too take up more room. So no doubt its going too c2d's again. :mad:

[RazHyena]

a dual core iMac is not going to be a good upgrade for current al iMac users. It's not a 'must' upgrade unless it's quad.

If we see dual cores in these new iMacs, it will be nothing but a step backwards, period. Aesthetics can only go so far before the unit becomes a joke. ;)

Who cares how many cores it has?? Over 99% of the people that buy computers can't tell one way or another or don't even know what that means.

No comment, but I am laughing....hard. :o

[newfoundglory]

I want to see some Xeon action in the new Mac Mini!

I know what you are going to say..... But I can dream at least.

[sam10685]

99% of the people who buy computers won't care that it's 1/8 inch thinner.

Touche. Still is more appealing to the general customer though than "quad core."

You're forgetting the normal ignorant computer user isn't the normal Mac user. I most certainly would like a quad-core. I wouldn't be surprised if you say the exact opposite when Apple puts a quad-core in the iMac. I care much more about performance and price then how thin something I will never move is.

I don't even know what "quad-core processor" means besides having something to do with the number 4. How does it enhance the quality of the computer beyond the technology already in use? If you compare computers today to ones even just 2 years ago, technology is getting to the point where you have to be a bonafied nerd to tell the difference.

[sirgant]

"iMac: Ultra Thin 20 & 24 inch models. From only € 1099. Apple Store"

I called it. They are just going to make it thinner. I doubt anything else will be upgraded besides the keyboard, mouse and remote alongside it. Glad I purchased my iMac in June, seeing as how I really couldn't care less on how thin it is.


You called what? There is no full disclosure of what the new computers will be. Let's just wait and see the entire lineup announcement. I'll pick up an iMac either way, a new one or the last iteration.

[moshimoshi3000]

Two weeks to ship? Something better happen soon...

[frosse]

This Ultra-thin thing worries me a bit...I'm suddenly getting these not good vibes.

http://www.acuitypro.com/images/VSAIO450x450.jpg

[travisjacques]

Two weeks to ship? Something better happen soon...

good find, my apple store still has the imacs at 24hrs to ship.

[frosse]

Two weeks to ship? Something better happen soon...
Still 24Hrs ship here in Sweden.

[Scottsdale]

Dammit Scotty! I need more power! (or at least two more cores...)

Still crossing my fingers and hoping for a quad core..

I am most interested to see what CPUs and Chipsets Apple uses. I am predicting Penryn across the board to be able to stick with Nvidia GPUs until they can figure out what to do with the Arrandale/Intel integrated graphics problems.

[Karukuubis]

Two weeks to ship? Something better happen soon...

Don't tell jokes :(

[greg400]

You called what? There is no full disclosure of what the new computers will be. Let's just wait and see the entire lineup announcement. I'll pick up an iMac either way, a new one or the last iteration.All signs are pointing in one direction, and nothing is going towards anything substantial, so as far as i'm concerned it's a done deal. We have heard no other announcements or events so it can't be anything big. I called that most likely all that would change is how thin it is.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=8554340#post8554340

[moshimoshi3000]

good find, my apple store still has the imacs at 24hrs to ship.

I've been checking over the past few days, and this is the first time I've seen this. It is still 24 hours in the regular store, but two weeks in the edu store. Eh, who knows. Apple, my productivity is going down the crapper here. Release something already!

[d0mth0ma5]

Two weeks to ship? Something better happen soon...

Which store was that? US still has 24 hours.

EDIT: Never mind, US Education. Wonder why the education has 2 weeks but the regular store has 24 hours...

EDIT EDIT: What moshimoshi3000 said

[Beric]

If Macs weren't hot and underpowered enough, now they're going to make them even thinner and more underpowered? The thinner a computer is, the less powerful it can be and the more cooling it takes, which also takes room. The issue isn't with thinness, it's with being so thin you can't fit any good hardware. My Macbook of 2 years ago heats up during Youtube videos, even web browsing. Can't imagine how hot they'll be now, unless Apple has invented some new cooling technology, which I doubt.

[bobertoq]

Touche. Still is more appealing to the general customer though than "quad core."



I don't even know what "quad-core processor" means besides having something to do with the number 4. How does it enhance the quality of the computer beyond the technology already in use? If you compare computers today to ones even just 2 years ago, technology is getting to the point where you have to be a bonafied nerd to tell the difference.I don't know about that, I'd rather have a fast computer then a thin one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-core

[MacGiver]

When they talk about potential Macbook upates..do you think they also refer to MBP or only the low end macbook (the white one).

[frosse]

One question that's not related to anything specific, but how's the fan sound level (noise etc) on the current iMacs?

[travisjacques]

i found the new macbooks!

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple_introduces_revolutionary

[greg400]

One question that's not related to anything specific, but how's the sound level (noise etc) on the current iMacs?
As in how loud are the speakers? If you max it out you could probably hear it resonating through your entire house so long as the doors are open. :P

[frosse]

If Macs weren't hot and underpowered enough, now they're going to make them even thinner and more underpowered? The thinner a computer is, the less powerful it can be and the more cooling it takes, which also takes room. The issue isn't with thinness, it's with being so thin you can't fit any good hardware. My Macbook of 2 years ago heats up during Youtube videos, even web browsing. Can't imagine how hot they'll be now, unless Apple has invented some new cooling technology, which I doubt.
Great huh! Now that winter's here soon and all. :D

[moshimoshi3000]

i found the new macbooks!

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple_introduces_revolutionary

NO!!!!!!! :)

[frosse]

As in how loud are the speakers? If you max it out you could probably hear it resonating through your entire house so long as the doors are open. :P
No, not speakers, fans.

[johnhw]

Unibody iMacs?

Sounds neat.

iMacs are already unibody, all desktop macs are unibody..

[greg400]

No, not speakers, fans.

Oh, quiet as can be from my experience. I barely even notice the thing's running half the time.

[RazHyena]

i found the new macbooks!

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple_introduces_revolutionary

ROFL. "Everything is just a few hundred clicks away."

[f00f]

One question that's not related to anything specific, but how's the fan sound level (noise etc) on the current iMacs?


On the iMac9,1:
Aside from the usual humming from the power inverters and an occassional spastic cooling fan, it's pretty quiet. Still runs hot as hell, IMO though. I personally wouldn't mind seeing at least an move to LED displays on the iMac.

[AAPLaday]

i found the new macbooks!

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple_introduces_revolutionary

I will buy anything shiny :D

[iMacmatician]

Thinner imac's.. Is this lowering the chance of us getting quad core and/or a decent gpu. Because if im not mistaken quad cores are obviously going too take up more room. So no doubt its going too c2d's again. :mad:The 2.0 GHz Clarksfield (55 W instead of 45 W) is most at risk.

If we see dual cores in these new iMacs, it will be nothing but a step backwards, period.Even if it is not an absolute downgrade it will be a relative downgrade and that is what matters.

[palmerc2]

When they say MacBook, does that include MacBook Pro as well?

I plan on getting a 17" MBP, just wondering when the next update will be....

:apple:

[Rychy]

I'm interested in the MacBooks myself. I'd like a laptop to compliment my desktop, but the MacBook Pros are bit expensive for what I'd use it for. So of course I'm hoping for a lower priced option... maybe even a 12" screen.

As for the iMacs I'd hope they'd at least have a Quad-Core option...and yes it seems ridiculous that they constantly seem concerned with making it slimmer.

[AAPLaday]

No, not speakers, fans.

Late 2007 iMac. Very quiet, especially compared to a Macbook. :)

[iMacmatician]

When they say MacBook, does that include MacBook Pro as well?Probably not.

I plan on getting a 17" MBP, just wondering when the next update will be....Probably early next year.

[Alfuh]

Like most I'm not too thrilled over the wording in the iMac ad ... thinner means nothing, but possibly more overheating issues ... FASTER or CHEAPER would make me much HAPPIER! :cool:

[rhinosrcool]

If Macs weren't hot and underpowered enough, now they're going to make them even thinner and more underpowered? The thinner a computer is, the less powerful it can be and the more cooling it takes, which also takes room. The issue isn't with thinness, it's with being so thin you can't fit any good hardware. My Macbook of 2 years ago heats up during Youtube videos, even web browsing. Can't imagine how hot they'll be now, unless Apple has invented some new cooling technology, which I doubt.

While Dell, HP, and many others are seriously upgrading their pcs (yes I know it's not os x!), Apple supposedly is making their iMacs thinner? Possibly, their later generation is less powerful than their present. Give me a break!
They are going to be slammed in the ads! Let's hope that there is more than this coming up.

[ventro]

Dear Apple:

People want thinner mobile devices, not desktop devices. Why did you make the iPhone 3G & S thicker than the 2G, but want to make the iMac thinner?

[AAPLaday]

Ok so maybe no quad core this time but better graphics would soften the blow. A 9400M has no place in an iMac lineup

[Dont Hurt Me]

Dear Apple:

People want thinner mobile devices, not desktop devices. Why did you make the iPhone 3G & S thicker than the 2G, but want to make the iMac thinner?Its so you can hang em on the wall dude.

[RazHyena]

While Dell, HP, and many others are seriously upgrading their pcs (yes I know it's not os x!), Apple supposedly is making their iMacs thinner? Possibly, their later generation is less powerful than their present. Give me a break!
They are going to be slammed in the ads! Let's hope that there is more than this coming up.

Negative press can be a powerful source of motivation for Apple's...uh...innovation. :D

[Beric]

There will be no quad cores on the iMacs. And this would have been the perfect time to introduce the i5 to the lineup. :( And there will be no improved graphics, because it would be too hot for such thin devices.

Sure would like an update to my Macbook, but it looks like it'll be another year.

[gri]

I am surprised that nobody noted it. The MBA's latest upgrade wasn't really one. A bit faster and still 2G of RAM, small SSD or HD. Why? This might be the answer, maybe? Drop the MBA and present a thinner (think MBA slim), lighter and stronger (think unibody aluminum and faster processor) MB. Or better said - drop the plastic MB overall, improve finally the MBA and leave it as MBA (or call it now the thinner, lighter and stronger MB). Would make sense looking at both, the current MB and the MBA...

[c.s.]

If this is true, evidence is mounting that there will be no October surprise -- since there's no event scheduled, could it just be a thinner version of the same iMac? And a few speed bumps to try to holdover until next year?

[queshy]

Hrmm, I'll be pretty angry if all they do is make it 0.1" thinner and just lower the price by a bit, and box in a new kb and m. I want more power!

[The Samurai]

If this is true, evidence is mounting that there will be no October surprise -- since there's no event scheduled, could it just be a thinner version of the same iMac? And a few speed bumps to try to holdover until next year?

The notice for the October event last year was dished out to attendees 4 days in advance.

[Mr. Gates]

MacRumors ACTUALLY posting something on a Sunday?! Wow ! Now THAT is news.:D

[The Final Cut]

Thinner= Less power . No. Please. Either way its coming by midweek the latest, cause supplies are almost dry, and people know something is coming, so they are not buying.

[Bubba Satori]

Who cares how many cores it has?? Over 99% of the people that buy computers can't tell one way or another or don't even know what that means. Thinner will be so much more appealing than quad core.

You obviously don't sell computers.

Why, in the name of all that is holy, does the iMac need to be thinner ? More appealing than what ? Faster and cheaper is more appealing. Do you live in a closet that you need a thinner computer ? :rolleyes:

[AutoSpies]

Apple could easily offer a 32" iMac for the price of the old machines since panel prices have come WAY down over the last 2 years

Maybe they will surprise and THAT'S why the smaller/thinner enclosure matters

Agent 001

[CQd44]

Would an iMac being an inch or two thicker REALLY be that big of a deal?

Apple could easily play it off as allowing for more powerful components. Or not mention it at all.

[krzyglue]

http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/10/03/online-ad-evidence-of-imminent-imac-mac-mini-and-macbook-updates/)

Feeding into recent rumors (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/09/25/macbook-update-to-be-released-alongside-new-imacs/) of imminent iMac, MacBook and Mac Mini updates, some new online ads have been spotted at Google.nl (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/10/03/apple_ads_hint_at_thinner_imacs_lighter_macbooks_cheaper_mac_minis.html) that potentially point to new versions of these products. While Apple's Google text ads always refer to their products as "new", these specific ads do highlight features that have not been the focus of previous revisions. The translations provided by AppleInsider describe the possible changes:Of note, the current price of the Mac mini in the Netherlands online store is € 599.

These imminent updates were first reported (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/09/15/analyst-imac-and-macbook-updates-coming-within-weeks/) back in September with the iMac specifically described as "thinner, organic design, likely with smoothed or rounded edges".

Article Link: Online Ad Evidence of Imminent iMac, Mac Mini and MacBook Updates? (http://www.macrumors.com/2009/10/03/online-ad-evidence-of-imminent-imac-mac-mini-and-macbook-updates/)

Sounds asthetically nice, but really what's the point? I think the current iMac size is perfect for an all-in-one. I'm not sure making it thinner has any practical implications besides possible thermal issues with faster processors/GPUs.

[Marx55]

Apple, what we need is:

- 400 to 500 g or so (as light and small as possible) MacBook. Or tablet. With Mac OS X inside, video-out and USB2 ports for Keynote and PowerPoint presentations. The MacBook Air is too heavy and too large to carry!

- Mac miniTower with Intel quad core and as quiet as the Mac mini.

- Apple cinema displays with matte-screen (no glossy!).

THAT IS!

[JazzJohannes]

Is anybody else striked by the fact, that this is actual insider trading?

"Advocates of legalization make free speech arguments. Punishment for communicating about a development pertinent to the next day's stock price might seem to be an act of censorship [1]. If the information being conveyed is proprietary information and the corporate insider has contracted to not expose it, he has no more right to communicate it than he would to tell others about the company's confidential new product designs, formulas, or bank account passwords,..."

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insider_trading

[Eidorian]

The iMac has been quiet in general since the Rev. C iMac G5 w/iSight update that rearranged the internals and got rid of the user accessibility.

[The Samurai]

Apple, what I need is:

- 400 g or so MacBook. Or tablet. With Mac inside, video out and USB2 for Keynote and PowerPoint presentations.

- Mac miniTower quad core and as quiet as the Mac mini.

- Matte Apple cinema displays.



Correction made.

[tofagerl]

Is anybody else striked by the fact, that this is actual insider trading?

"Advocates of legalization make free speech arguments. Punishment for communicating about a development pertinent to the next day's stock price might seem to be an act of censorship [1]. If the information being conveyed is proprietary information and the corporate insider has contracted to not expose it, he has no more right to communicate it than he would to tell others about the company's confidential new product designs, formulas, or bank account passwords,..."

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insider_trading

Insider trading is when you get information from people inside the company that the public at large does not know and buy equity based on that information. This is a rumor, and has been well spread among the public.

Buy stock if you want, but honestly this isn't going to increase the stock price much.

[MorphingDragon]

You obviously don't sell computers.

Why, in the name of all that is holy, does the iMac need to be thinner ? More appealing than what ? Faster and cheaper is more appealing. Do you live in a closet that you need a thinner computer ? :rolleyes:

If you want to live in a halls of residence, any room for clothes, booze and books on your desk is a good thing. 8D

[PikachuMan]

Hrmm, I'll be pretty angry if all they do is make it 0.1" thinner and just lower the price by a bit, and box in a new kb and m. I want more power!

Honest question: What would you guys do with that extra power? In terms of actual expectations: are you thinking it would be faster for web surfing or something?

I don't get it. This is an iMac we are talking about, not a gaming PC or a workstation where the processor would matter much. As long as the new iMac is snappy enough and can do everything you want it to do, what difference does it make if it's got the latest-and-greatest or last years tech?

I say they should focus on the things that will make a difference day-to-day. Get it fast enough, sure, but then give me a beautiful screen, great KB&M and a sexy design. That's all I want from the iMac.

[IWantItThatWay]

Correction made.

No, a lot of people want that. Apple's choices are too limited, underpowered, outdated, and expensive.

[The Samurai]

No, a lot of people want that. .

Erm? On these forums, yes.

Apple's choices are too limited, underpowered, outdated, and expensive

Yet, they are still selling like hot cakes.

[klrobinson999]

I certainly hope we're getting something besides "thinner".... that's certainly not a "compelling" update.

If it goes thinner, will they ditch the optical drive altogether?

[IWantItThatWay]

Erm? On these forums, yes.

And in real life.


Yet, they are still selling like hot cakes.

And they could be selling even more if they would appeal to more people.

[theBigD23]

No, a lot of people want that. Apple's choices are too limited, underpowered, outdated, and expensive.

Doesn't seem like you're in the market for an iMac or any Apple system. If other choices are so much better, why not buy those system? You can buy those amazing HP AIO's.

[RazHyena]

Erm? On these forums, yes.



Yet, they are still selling like hot cakes.

I agree. Considering how hotcakes don't sell very well.

It's all about the waffles.

[Lesser Evets]

Apple has always been style over substance.

So true. I can never get anything done on these Apples: too much style, no substance.

Its impossible to have both, as well. But you can have neither, like a PC.

[IWantItThatWay]

So true. I can never get anything done on these Apples: too much style, no substance.

Its impossible to have both, as well. But you can have neither, like a PC.

Apple hardware is about 4 years behind PC hardware, but they still charge 4 times as much cuz it be unibody ya dig.

[sneakyzeal]

Apple could easily offer a 32" iMac for the price of the old machines since panel prices have come WAY down over the last 2 years

Maybe they will surprise and THAT'S why the smaller/thinner enclosure matters

Agent 001

I like the way you think! "Thinner" definitely wouldn't be such a scary prospect if this was the case :rolleyes:

In saying that, the ad only refers to 20" and 24" options :(

[Mr. Gates]

I think some of you should try the new HP Envy and stop complaining about how thick a Mac is


Here is a Link http://gizmodo.com/5359331/hp-envy-hands-on-macbook-pro-clone-better-than-the-real-thing

[bbnck]

The Mac mini definitely looks promising with a price reduction - especially for first time Mac users. I want to purchase a MacBook next year, so fingers crossed for a price reduction on that too.

[IWantItThatWay]

I think some of you should try the new HP Envy and stop complaining about how thick a Mac is


Here is a Link http://gizmodo.com/5359331/hp-envy-hands-on-macbook-pro-clone-better-than-the-real-thing

That looks like such a sweet laptop!

[CWallace]

Apple hardware is about 4 years behind PC hardware, but they still charge 4 times as much cuz it be unibody ya dig.

And you can be sure that it annoys all the PC makers to no end that Apple gets away with it year after year after year while they have to just keep lowering the price (and the profit margin) in order to push any of their product. :p

[IWantItThatWay]

And you can be sure that it annoys all the PC makers to no end that Apple gets away with it year after year after year while they have to just keep lowering the price (and the profit margin) in order to push any of their product. :p

It annoys me too. I mean a $2500 machine with only 3 gigs of RAM and a GeForce GT 120? Is this 2005? lol.

[polaris20]

If you want to live in a halls of residence, any room for clothes, booze and books on your desk is a good thing. 8D

But for the rest of the world that has a normal desk (and not something better suited to a 13" laptop) the iMac could be twice as thick and still not matter.

[TheBearman]

Thinner could mean the end of a desktop level hard drive. Wouldn't be very happy to see that as laptop drives don't have the size, speed or cache of their desktop versions. Regardless of what other improvements they may make this would more that likely result in a slower system.

:mad:

[DaBrain]

MacRumors ACTUALLY posting something on a Sunday?! Wow ! Now THAT is news.:D

Hmmm it says your in Washington State. So I think you should know that it is Saturday--))) ;)

[Buzz Bumble]

"iMac: Ultra Thin 20 & 24 inch models. From only € 1099. Apple Store"

I called it. They are just going to make it thinner. I doubt anything else will be upgraded besides the keyboard, mouse and remote alongside it. Glad I purchased my iMac in June, seeing as how I really couldn't care less on how thin it is.

I don't know enough about backlight and LED panels to know for sure, but last night I had a thought that changing from the backlight to an LED screen could be at least part of the cause the new iMac is rumouredly going to be thinner, rather than Apple purposely trying to make it thinner by design. :)

[xhambonex]

It annoys me too. I mean a $2500 machine with only 3 gigs of RAM and a GeForce GT 120? Is this 2005? lol.

nope, its just an Apple computer. And they'll continue to sell their overpriced computers without a problem.

It seems pretty simple, they offer a very limited amount of products, if you can't settle on one of those products, then you buy something else. As a company they sure aren't struggling.

Sure WE want to see a cheaper Mac tower or a better iMac, but we aren't exactly Apple's target market.

[cr2sh]

MacBook: Thinner, lighter and stronger! Free delivery. Order today.

If this is true I think "stronger" seems like an odd word usage... perhaps implying a unibody build?

[DaBrain]

Apple hardware is about 4 years behind PC hardware, but they still charge 4 times as much cuz it be unibody ya dig.

Cmon Man! 4 Years behind and 4 times as much!--))) You don't exagerate too much, do ya? ;):rolleyes:

[Mr. Gates]

Hmmm it says your in Washington State. So I think you should know that it is Saturday--))) ;)

Crap! I'm supposed to be at Work! Ha HA

But seriously I really thought it was Sunday. My mistake. Took a week off from doing nothing:D

[polaris20]

It annoys me too. I mean a $2500 machine with only 3 gigs of RAM and a GeForce GT 120? Is this 2005? lol.

Well, the top end iMac has 4GB of RAM, has a GeForce GT130, and is $2200, but I know I'm splitting hairs and I see what you're getting at.

Basically you're buying a 24" laptop.

[DaBrain]

Crap! I'm supposed to be at Work! Ha HA

But seriously I really thought it was Sunday. My mistake. Took a week off from doing nothing:D

Well Mr. Gates when your doing mothing then mothing really doesn't matter!--)))

Best thing is that you just gained a day to do mothing--)) ;):D

Note: You sure edited that fast--)))

[DaBrain]

deleted my dup post

[Coleco]

It's going to be a dockable tablet. Place it on the dock and it's a regular desktop, when you need to be on the go (or just go to the john), you take it with you and it becomes a touch-sensitive tablet-o-jobs goodness. Macbook battery tech built in to display. Thus, the imac gets reinvented again.

It will be called the iMac Go:apple:

[ticklemonster]

I hope that the new MacBook is much thinner, yet still white because I like things that are thin and white.

[iMJustAGuy]

YES!!!!!!
PLEASE HURRY APPLE!
I can't wait to get my first mac. I have a G3 (doesn't count) that I got last year just to get a feel for OS X which I kind of knew how to use anyway just because (1) I watch oodles of tutorials/reviews (did I just say "oodles...?") and (2) because I am a computer "nerd."

Dear Apple, I would prefer the following: AND to run me under 1499:

24 inch
Blu-ray
New Design
1TB HDD
4GB RAM (4 slots please)
slight price drop
THIS MONTH

THANKS!

[iZac]

When i bought my little G4 mac mini back in the day, i believe it cost £320, with a (crappy) dedicated graphics card.

It currently sells for £499.

*shruggs*

[iMJustAGuy]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7C144 Safari/528.16)

Of course I just bought an iMac last month. Oh well...I'm happy with it...

Thank you for the sporty attitude. I am tired of people griping about how they just bought something and a newer one comes out or it gets a price drop. While its (obviously) a little disappointing, people need to understand that THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOMETHING NEW. I'm sure that they are already working on the next iMac before this said-to-be new one is released. It is what it is, and it will never change.

Respect earned.

[NathanCH]

Must be happening soon. They wouldn't set up an advertising google campaign weeks ahead.

Anyways, I agree with the majority here. Thinness isn't what people look for anymore, everyone got over that a few years back when they realized the difference between 3 inches and 1 inch isn't that important.

Besides quad-core? What else could they update on these things? Minimally faster processors? 4GB of ram for the low-end model? Maybe. That's it though.

[Cubert]

Will be announced Tuesday with availability by Friday at the latest.

[chubad]

A thinner desk top computer. Whoop de do. The Apple fan Bois will no doubt be thrilled.
How about better cooling with quad core? Blue-Ray, check, full size wireless keyboard with numeric keypad, yup. Better graphics card. Easily replaceable hard drive.
Even with a price drop, LAME.

No, let's just make it thinner. That will sell everyone. :rolleyes::mad:

[tofagerl]

Well, the prices are likely to remain the same on everything but the mini (since the ad specified the minimum prices), but I would expect some bumps.

Not that it matters to me, I have a desktop and am looking at a MBP around christmas.

[puffnstuff]

Anything new that Apple releases will obviously be "thinner" they have been on the whole "thin" kick for the past two years.

Soon when things become as thin and light as they can possibly be Apple will try to make it invisible.

Kind of like that skit on SNL :D

[iMJustAGuy]

seriously? making the imac thinner is just retarded. who cares????

The way I look at it is, if it's not sacrificing anything (ie. specs, space, etc., etc,) make it as thin as a penny! I mean, I don't mind if it doesn't get thinner. But like I said, as long as they are not having to sacrifice, it really doesn't bother me.

[NathanCH]

A thinner desk top computer. Whoop de do. The Apple fan Bois will no doubt be thrilled.
How about better cooling with quad core? Blue-Ray, check, full size wireless keyboard with numeric keypad, yup. Better graphics card. Easily replaceable hard drive.
Even with a price drop, LAME.

No, let's just make it thinner. That will sell everyone. :rolleyes::mad:

Buddy, you're reading the fanboy reaction right now, and nobody is impressed.

Quad-cores were possible, but you are setting yourself up for disappointment expecting blu-ray.

But like I said, as long as they are not having to sacrifice, it really doesn't bother me.

Big IF. I rather them invest money in new specs, than developing ways to make them thinner.

[miki66]

499 mini，yay:p eventually they lower the price under 500
i think it's a good time to buy a mini accompany with the stunning acd:D

[iMacmatician]

Will be announced Tuesday with availability by Friday at the latest.Makes sense to me.

Buddy, you're reading the fanboy reaction right now, and nobody is impressed. LOL, precisely. The people like me who aren't visibly disappointed are because we set ourselves up for disappointment after the last iMac update.

[Bryan Bowler]

Apple, thinner is fine, but this version better have a quad-core processor! :mad:

[Apollo21]

From an aesthetic standpoint--which I thought was the most important to them--wouldn't it be more logical to make it thicker so they can get rid of the chin and make it look closer to their monitor??

[Dont Hurt Me]

People need to stop bitchin, the new imac is allways better then the last imac.:rolleyes: Im trying to think what the current one cant do???anything? Hell I use mine as a TV,Phone,game machine,internet,mail, dvd player, music device,photo storage yadda yadda yadda. Stop all the crying you bunch of baby's.

[iMacmatician]

People need to stop bitchin, the new imac is allways better then the last imac.:rolleyes:Even if it is better it may still be a downgrade with respect to the rest of the industry.

[RazHyena]

A thinner desk top computer. Whoop de do. The Apple fan Bois will no doubt be thrilled.
How about better cooling with quad core? Blue-Ray, check, full size wireless keyboard with numeric keypad, yup. Better graphics card. Easily replaceable hard drive.
Even with a price drop, LAME.

No, let's just make it thinner. That will sell everyone. :rolleyes::mad:

Aesthetics mean so little, especially when you're talking about the iMac...which doesn't really "move around" alot. Yeah, it's kinda important for laptops I guess, but for a desktop? Put some non-obsolete hardware in it and give the thinness a break for crying out loud. :mad:

[MorphingDragon]

Well, the top end iMac has 4GB of RAM, has a GeForce GT130, and is $2200, but I know I'm splitting hairs and I see what you're getting at.

Basically you're buying a 24" laptop.

Wheres the 1?

[jmpage2]

Honest question: What would you guys do with that extra power? In terms of actual expectations: are you thinking it would be faster for web surfing or something?

I don't get it. This is an iMac we are talking about, not a gaming PC or a workstation where the processor would matter much. As long as the new iMac is snappy enough and can do everything you want it to do, what difference does it make if it's got the latest-and-greatest or last years tech?

I say they should focus on the things that will make a difference day-to-day. Get it fast enough, sure, but then give me a beautiful screen, great KB&M and a sexy design. That's all I want from the iMac.

I think you totally underestimate what people use their machines for. There are thousands (if not millions) of people out there who are using their iMacs to do video encoding, photo processing and yes GAMING.

If Apple wasn't interested in the performance then they wouldn't offer continued faster video cards and faster C2D chips.

Snow Leopard was built to take advantage of new i7 architecture and Apple should be embarrassed that they are letting another 6-12 months without putting one of these processors in the iMac (or mini).

I was really hoping for a quad core iMac that also had a matte screen option. Blu-Ray would have put me over the moon.

As it is looks like no sale from me and Apple decides that instead of being a tech innovator they would rather play it safe and simply reduce the prices on models to try to stave off defections to cheaper Windows 7 machines.

Shame on you Apple! :mad:

[Hattig]

Even if it is better it may still be a downgrade with respect to the rest of the industry.

That may be so.

In the AppleInsider discussion a couple of people have discovered Google campaigns for an "iMac Air" in Spain.

This could suggest two iMac lines, the super-slim Air variant available alongside the current iMac (speed bumped). Later on when new Intel chips are available and suitable for the iMac, the big iMac will gain them.

Big iMac will be akin to MacBook Pro in features come this time, with Firewire, maybe Quad-core or Quad-thread at least, discrete graphics, etc. But not yet ready.

iMac Air will be cheaper, but will drop features that many users deem a requirement. Thus there will be a lot of bitching.

[zw-gator]

iMac Air? hmmmm

[iMacmatician]

That may be so.

In the AppleInsider discussion a couple of people have discovered Google campaigns for an "iMac Air" in Spain.

This could suggest two iMac lines, the super-slim Air variant available alongside the current iMac (speed bumped). Later on when new Intel chips are available and suitable for the iMac, the big iMac will gain them.

Big iMac will be akin to MacBook Pro in features come this time, with Firewire, maybe Quad-core or Quad-thread at least, discrete graphics, etc. But not yet ready.

iMac Air will be cheaper, but will drop features that many users deem a requirement. Thus there will be a lot of bitching.I just checked and didn't see a mention of "iMac Air"…am I missing something?

If there is an iMac Air I can see things happening as you said, coincidentally I posted something related to that on the AI thread at the same time as your post. :)

[greg400]

MEGATON NEWS, iMac Air leaked video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH7jO7X2vw8

[puffnstuff]

That may be so.

In the AppleInsider discussion a couple of people have discovered Google campaigns for an "iMac Air" in Spain.

This could suggest two iMac lines, the super-slim Air variant available alongside the current iMac (speed bumped). Later on when new Intel chips are available and suitable for the iMac, the big iMac will gain them.

Big iMac will be akin to MacBook Pro in features come this time, with Firewire, maybe Quad-core or Quad-thread at least, discrete graphics, etc. But not yet ready.

iMac Air will be cheaper, but will drop features that many users deem a requirement. Thus there will be a lot of bitching.

I found the iMac Air ad on google too

I don't think people would be bitching wouldn't it be better that way? Look at the bitching going on now in this thread because people think there will only be one iMac that lacks features but is thin

[iMacmatician]

MEGATON NEWS, iMac Air leaked video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH7jO7X2vw8FAKE

[MorphingDragon]

I think you totally underestimate what people use their machines for. There are thousands (if not millions) of people out there who are using their iMacs to do video encoding, photo processing and yes GAMING.

If Apple wasn't interested in the performance then they wouldn't offer continued faster video cards and faster C2D chips.

Snow Leopard was built to take advantage of new i7 architecture and Apple should be embarrassed that they are letting another 6-12 months without putting one of these processors in the iMac (or mini).

I was really hoping for a quad core iMac that also had a matte screen option. Blu-Ray would have put me over the moon.

As it is looks like no sale from me and Apple decides that instead of being a tech innovator they would rather play it safe and simply reduce the prices on models to try to stave off defections to cheaper Windows 7 machines.

Shame on you Apple! :mad:

Remember when Apple used to brag about the performance and how cheap it was? If Apple still had the mindset of the Early Macintosh, G3-G5. They would probably dominate.

[inkswamp]

The Mini needs a price drop.

I miss the update/pricing methods Apple used back in the 98-02 era. They would do a major upgrade to the hardware, followed by a minor hw upgrade, and then alternate between price drops and speed bumps until the next major rev. It's really disappointing to see the Mini languish, especially because it has massive potential to draw new users. If only Apple would keep it a little more up-to-date and update it in ways that matter (note to Apple: it's small enough and has enough USB ports already.)

[MorphingDragon]

I miss the update/pricing methods Apple used back in the 98-02 era. They would do a major upgrade to the hardware, followed by a minor hw upgrade, and then alternate between price drops and speed bumps until the next major rev. It's really disappointing to see the Mini languish, especially because it has massive potential to draw new users. If only Apple would keep it a little more up-to-date and update it in ways that matter (note to Apple: it's small enough and has enough USB ports already.)

Do you want to take a visit to memory lane?

[puffnstuff]

I don't think the new macbooks will be plastic. If it is Apple probably enjoys fixing them. :mad:

[vaderhater245]

i5 or go home!

[jmpage2]

I don't think the new macbooks will be plastic. If it is Apple probably enjoys fixing them. :mad:

It's almost assured that there will be an entry level plastic Macbook. How is it that Apple is going to fix them any more then the current ones (or any other vendors laptops for that matter)?

A $799 base level Macbook will sell very very well.

I'm still extremely disappointed that evidence is starting to mount that Apple will not be providing any real substantial updates for yet another year.

[Moler]

Thiner iMac may be intended for wall mounting! I don't have space for a desktop in my condo (950sf), but will buy iMac if they make this option user friendly. With anticipated new generation wireless keyboard and mice (as well as with the tablet) it may be a multimedia dream.:D

[gianly1985]

People need to stop bitchin, the new imac is allways better then the last imac.:rolleyes: Im trying to think what the current one cant do???anything? Hell I use mine as a TV,Phone,game machine,internet,mail, dvd player, music device,photo storage yadda yadda yadda. Stop all the crying you bunch of baby's.

Exactly.
Current iMacs exceed the power need of 90% of the users.

The bottleneck is the hard disk, try putting a Intel SSD inside an iMac and you'll see Photoshop loading in 4 seconds, Mail in 1 second, ecc.

Sometimes nerds don't realize that people out there doesn't care about quad-cores or stuff like that. They care about how the computer behave in real world usage.

The challenge now is optimizing software and squeeze all the juice out of the current hardware (64bit, OpenCL, GCD, etc.).

[zw-gator]

It's almost assured that there will be an entry level plastic Macbook. How is it that Apple is going to fix them any more then the current ones?

A $799 base level Macbook will sell very very well.


At that price point, I'd say my campus would be 75% mac users. Even now every second person seems to have a MBP.

Does the MacBook have a big trackpad like the MBP?

[MorphingDragon]

Thiner iMac may be intended for wall mounting! I don't have space for a desktop in my condo (950sf), but will buy iMac if they make this option user friendly. With anticipated new generation wireless keyboard and mice (as well as with the tablet) it may be a multimedia dream.:D

How is removing the stand with pictured instructions not user friendly? If you were wall mounting you know what Vesa was in the first place.

[achansonjr]

If they do do a refresh, whats the likelihood of being able to take it into the store and swap it out if I don't open the box?

What is the typical way of handling something like this since I purchased from the online store?

Thanks,
C

[puffnstuff]

I wonder what will happen to the Air. They should discontinue the macbook and cut the price drastically on the air to about $999. I think it's possible because when the Air was first release wasn't close to $3,000?

[NathanCH]

Mail in 1 second, ecc.
.

That's actually twice as long as it takes now. But I only have 5000 messages, so I guess its different for others.

But I agree for sure. SSD's would fix the bottleneck, but there is no way with current capacity.

[sravana]

I wish they'd hurry up and announce the Macbook changes, so I can decide whether to return my new Dell Mini 10v and get the Macbook, or Hackintosh it!

[fun173]

MacRumors ACTUALLY posting something on a Sunday?! Wow ! Now THAT is news.:D


today is saturday

[tkermit]

MEGATON NEWS, iMac Air leaked video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH7jO7X2vw8

The new :apple: iMac Air - No compromises. All Form, no function.

[twoodcc]

well now. maybe the mini will be under $500 again. i sure hope so

[powers74]

I don't think the new macbooks will be plastic. If it is Apple probably enjoys fixing them. :mad:

It's almost assured that there will be an entry level plastic Macbook. How is it that Apple is going to fix them any more then the current ones (or any other vendors laptops for that matter)?

A $799 base level Macbook will sell very very well.


Rather than the current injected poly, maybe they will machine polycarb blocks. there would be less fixing, but I doubt they will hit the above suggested price point.

[shanmugam]

Exactly.
Current iMacs exceed the power need of 90% of the users.

The bottleneck is the hard disk, try putting a Intel SSD inside an iMac and you'll see Photoshop loading in 4 seconds, Mail in 1 second, ecc.

Sometimes nerds don't realize that people out there doesn't care about quad-cores or stuff like that. They care about how the computer behave in real world usage.

The challenge now is optimizing software and squeeze all the juice out of the current hardware (64bit, OpenCL, GCD, etc.).

Agreed, SSD one component can bring lots of performance improvement. It is very expensive though.

80, 160, 256, 320 GB SSD still possible in iMacs (apple bring some cash out of bank!)

[ditzy]

I'll move to my standard reaction on rumours like this. I'll get annoyed when I know it's true. Although my wish for the iMac is more power, i.e 4 cores. If that is possible while making it thinner and making sure that it wont over heat, I'll be a happy girl. However I doubt that that is possible.

[MorphingDragon]

Exactly.
Current iMacs exceed the power need of 90% of the users.

The bottleneck is the hard disk, try putting a Intel SSD inside an iMac and you'll see Photoshop loading in 4 seconds, Mail in 1 second, ecc.

Sometimes nerds don't realize that people out there doesn't care about quad-cores or stuff like that. They care about how the computer behave in real world usage.

The challenge now is optimizing software and squeeze all the juice out of the current hardware (64bit, OpenCL, GCD, etc.).

Now if only they could make Cocoa work with C++/C# etc without using Objective-C.

[Moler]

How is removing the stand with pictured instructions not user friendly? If you were wall mounting you know what Vesa was in the first place.

It's not user friendly if you need to buy adapters and other crap. With wall mounting removing any inch/ounce counts. Beside you still need a desk for the mouse! I am talking about something that will eliminate need for a desk.

[DisMyMac]

Apple wouldn't list specs such as new i7s, USB 3, or anything performance-related in small Google ads. They show off sexy features for mass appeal, and the real things we care about may or may not change.

[MorphingDragon]

It's not user friendly if you need to buy adapters and other crap. With wall mounting removing any inch/ounce counts. Beside you still need a desk for the mouse! I am talking about something that will eliminate need for a desk.

You need to buy an imac wall mount, then its compatible with any standard wall mount. :confused: Even the most retarded store clerk can tell you that.

[zedsdead]

I agree with the majority of people that unlike most of Apple's products, there is no reason to make the iMac thinner. It should actually be a little thicker so it could house a desktop core 2 quad, but we all know that will never happen.

Based on the rumors, I think that those new Xeon processors will be the way apple goes because it will allow quad-core and turbo boost at decent prices (unlike the Clarksfield chips which are very expensive). The Xeon's operate at lower temps than the Clarksfield (at least that's what I remember reading).

[Xibalba]

Exactly.
Current iMacs exceed the power need of 90% of the users.

The bottleneck is the hard disk, try putting a Intel SSD inside an iMac and you'll see Photoshop loading in 4 seconds, Mail in 1 second, ecc.

Sometimes nerds don't realize that people out there doesn't care about quad-cores or stuff like that. They care about how the computer behave in real world usage.

The challenge now is optimizing software and squeeze all the juice out of the current hardware (64bit, OpenCL, GCD, etc.).

agree - it's sad to think about the lives of those that choose to wine and get so upset about such things.

i am ready to click buy on the new imacs...waiting...

[bbydon]

Honest question: What would you guys do with that extra power? In terms of actual expectations: are you thinking it would be faster for web surfing or something?

I don't get it. This is an iMac we are talking about, not a gaming PC or a workstation where the processor would matter much. As long as the new iMac is snappy enough and can do everything you want it to do, what difference does it make if it's got the latest-and-greatest or last years tech?

I say they should focus on the things that will make a difference day-to-day. Get it fast enough, sure, but then give me a beautiful screen, great KB&M and a sexy design. That's all I want from the iMac.

Well, I don't want nor can i afford a mac pro at home... Yet it's nice
when can do some after
effects or c4d. So an iMac is perfect, and if had a bit more power vs being thinner, it would be better.

[MacDSmith2]

Based on the rumors, I think that those new Xeon processors will be the way apple goes because it will allow quad-core and turbo boost at decent prices (unlike the Clarksfield chips which are very expensive). The Xeon's operate at lower temps than the Clarksfield (at least that's what I remember reading).

Get real. Apple is not going to put Zeon processors in it's consumer line of Macs. Quad Core might come in some high end models if the power and heat disipation allows it but it ain't gonna happen in the iMac. The thinner screen could mean LED displays, as another post said, which is a good thing, better video, less power, less heat. Coupled with a price drop AND a boast in mHz will be a very welcome upgrade across the line. I hope so in the Mac Mini. Long Live the Mac Mini!

[iZac]

In this (i hate this phrase) "economic climate" it makes a lot of sense to basically offer people the same thing but cheaper, rather than expend R&D on amazing new machines that arnt going to have as large an uptake because people are holding more tightly onto their purse strings.

Visually the iPhone and the litter of iPods have only had minor, or no updates at all, the notebooks are mid cycle anyway (ignoring the entry level), so i would expect any updates to the desktop line to be evolution, not revolution. If im wrong, it would be a pleasant surprise though!

However, as desktops dont sell anymore and with people lapping up those crappy netbooks, if anything actually gets an overhaul, it would surely be the cheap 'little macbook that could'.

[zedsdead]

Get real. Apple is not going to put Zeon processors in it's consumer line of Macs. Quad Core might come in some high end models if the power and heat disipation allows it but it ain't gonna happen in the iMac. The thinner screen could mean LED displays, as another post said, which is a good thing, better video, less power, less heat. Coupled with a price drop AND a boast in mHz will be a very welcome upgrade across the line. I hope so in the Mac Mini. Long Live the Mac Mini!

This was from another thread:

Low Power Xeon L3426 45W 4C/8T with turbo boost (1.86->3.2GHz in Turbo 1 core) (the CPU is only $300 and its designed for 1U server applications which is about the same thermal performance of an iMac)

[CarlHeanerd]

This was from another thread:

Low Power Xeon L3426 45W 4C/8T with turbo boost (1.86->3.2GHz in Turbo 1 core) (the CPU is only $300 and its designed for 1U server applications which is about the same thermal performance of an iMac)

Introducing the slimmer, more powerful, and world's first adaptive iMac?

[iMJustAGuy]

The new :apple: iMac Air - No compromises. All Form, no function.

It needs to be thinner.

today is saturday

AAHAHAHAHAHAH!

[MacDSmith2]

... with people lapping up those crappy netbooks, if anything actually gets an overhaul, it would surely be the cheap 'little macbook that could'.

I agree! The tie-in for Apple is HTPC with video and music from the iTunes store and synergy with the iPhone products. They are going to steer their computer line to maximize that success. Changes that allow greater video bandwidth and viewing experience make sense. The low end line needs updating to compete with the [rather useless] netbooks and lowered economic expectations. Unlike most PC makers, Apple actually makes money selling both hardware and software, whereas PC makers are in a world of hurt.

[Apollo21]

The bottleneck is the hard disk, try putting a Intel SSD inside an iMac and you'll see Photoshop loading in 4 seconds, Mail in 1 second, ecc.

Sometimes nerds don't realize that people out there doesn't care about quad-cores or stuff like that. They care about how the computer behave in real world usage.

The challenge now is optimizing software and squeeze all the juice out of the current hardware (64bit, OpenCL, GCD, etc.).

Why even bother optimizing software when all people do is open and close programs?

[spf350]

Well, I for one am excited about the new iMac's whenever they ship. I am in the market for one. The one I have is an 20" iMac 1.8 pPC G5, and it has worked just fine for I don't remember how many years I have had it. But it's time to come into the 21st century. I've owned Apple Products since the Apple IIc. I have never been disappointed with their products.

Here is a suggestion for the Mini's, make them more powerful and give them colors like the iPod Nanos.

[MLS]

One of the main features of Snow Leopard was the GCD. "More Cores, not faster clock speeds". So why the hell wouldn't Apple release a quad-core iMac?

If they don't then that is just really dumb.

[iMJustAGuy]

Alright. All over these forums I see people whining and complaining about how the new iMac will "have" a thinner display. Please explain to me what the big deal is. First of all, we don't even know if this is true or not. Second, if its not sacrificing specs, why does it matter? This is not the same as (for example) others stating that Blu-ray is not necessary and me coming back saying if you don't want it don't worry about it and don't use it. It really won't effect you in any way if they decide to make it thinner. Third, do you think apple will actually bring a system down in terms of specs JUST to make a system thinner. Most likely, if this is true, it's because they were able to implement and LED display.

Of course, this is all just an opinion from myself. But is it actually going to effect your decision to purchase or user experience if they make it thinner?

Please leave any comments stating your feelings on this subject.

PS: Haha, bet you thought this was another duplicate thread complaining about thinness...or not. :p

[dam0dred]

Man the mini is in need of a substantial price drop.

[IWantItThatWay]

OS X is such a great OS - the weeks I had it were amazing. It's a shame that the hardware it's on is such crap.

iMacs aren't a good idea anymore for one reason - they aren't customizable. You can only get what Apple gives you (and they like it this way - want new hardware? Have to get a new iMac). This is the main reason why there isn't a mini upgradable tower.

[MorphingDragon]

Man the mini is in need of a substantial price drop.

Specially since you can get the MacBook cheaper. If its entry it should be smaller than $1k at least. Like the MacBook.

[Sandilini]

I've been in the market for an iMac, but I've been waiting since July since I figured they'd update before the end of the year. I do graphic design, so I get the whole "aesthetic" thing.. but I honestly do not care if it's thinner. I want a better graphics card. I don't really care all that much about quad core because unless an application is coded to support it.. it doesn't really matter. By the time developers take full advantage of quad, the processors will be standard on all desktops. I'm hoping for a speed bump, better graphics, sd card reader, and a new mighty mouse. I despise the mighty mouse. I guess that's not that big a deal since you can always buy any mouse you want as long as it's supported.. but it'd be nice.

I want a workhorse desktop, not a placemat. I'm hoping by "thinner" they just mean they've managed to shave off an eighth of an inch or rounded corners or something.

[EMT123]

:confused::confused::confused:Does anyone see some type of integration between the mac mini and Apple TV? The recent price drop of the 160 gb Apple TV, and disco on the 40 gb maybe a clue? Coupled with the other things that are happening?

[leonstafford]

Why is everyone bitching about CPUs and GFX? The only thing which would make a decent performance boost is some of them new SSDs from Intel, or one of the competitors using the same controller.

The tech is stable and screamingly fast now and will make the most dramatic performance boost imaginable.

They're still way expensive, so I doubt at the $499/$1099 price points, apple will win any dumb consumer votes for upgrading a hard disk, when average Joe likes to buy based on GBs and Ghz and Crapacity figures...

That would explain the THIN rumors too, as Apple wouldn't need half the hard disk space in the iMacs going 1.8 or 2.5inch SSDs... Thermal issues would be lessened, too...

[jmpage2]

I've been in the market for an iMac, but I've been waiting since July since I figured they'd update before the end of the year. I do graphic design, so I get the whole "aesthetic" thing.. but I honestly do not care if it's thinner. I want a better graphics card. I don't really care all that much about quad core because unless an application is coded to support it.. it doesn't really matter. By the time developers take full advantage of quad, the processors will be standard on all desktops. I'm hoping for a speed bump, better graphics, sd card reader, and a new mighty mouse. I despise the mighty mouse. I guess that's not that big a deal since you can always buy any mouse you want as long as it's supported.. but it'd be nice.

I want a workhorse desktop, not a placemat. I'm hoping by "thinner" they just mean they've managed to shave off an eighth of an inch or rounded corners or something.

1. Apple wants people like yourself to buy a Mac Pro.

2. With Snow Leopard you will see virtually every major app coded to use multiple processors since it is far easier than under windows.

Snow Leopard can absolutely benefit from quad core at lower clock cycles compared to high click dual core.

[Arcadie]

.... you all are idiots...
Thinner does not mean no quad core... Look at the quad core notebooks that are currently on the market. Look how slim they are compared to a current imac. if anyone made a laptop as fat as an imac, no one would buy it and it would undoubtedly be the thickest laptop on the market.

So how do all of you assume that these companies can fit a whole computer plus a keyboard and trackpad AND battery into something THINNER than an imac, but Apple for some reason has no way of getting this all in to a computer that is not only thicker but much wider and taller than any laptop on the market?

Im not saying the new imacs wont have quads, but just because its thinner dosnt mean it cant

[stuffradio]

1. Apple wants people like yourself to buy a Mac Pro.

2. With Snow Leopard you will see virtually every major app coded to use multiple processors since it is far easier than under windows.

Snow Leopard can absolutely benefit from quad core at lower clock cycles compared to high click dual core.

No, coding for Multi core on a Mac is not easier than on Windows. I code for both systems. Microsoft did a damn good job with Visual Studio and the .NET framework.

On another note, yes Mac Mini needs a price drop... but I hope it's not a price drop to 499 euro because that's a lot of money still.

[palian]

The Mini needs a price drop.

and a all in one sound and video HDMI port, which would make it a great HTPC.

not that this would happen...but threw in a Blu Ray Drive as an option and you have the ultimate HTPC.

- Christopher Palian

[MorphingDragon]

.... you all are idiots...
Thinner does not mean no quad core... Look at the quad core notebooks that are currently on the market. Look how slim they are compared to a current imac. if anyone made a laptop as fat as an imac, no one would buy it and it would undoubtedly be the thickest laptop on the market.

So how do all of you assume that these companies can fit a whole computer plus a keyboard and trackpad AND battery into something THINNER than an imac, but Apple for some reason has no way of getting this all in to a computer that is not only thicker but much wider and taller than any laptop on the market?

Im not saying the new imacs wont have quads, but just because its thinner dosnt mean it cant

Because the iMac isnt a pure laptop, it has Desktop parts in it too.

[ecualegacy]

Hey, I can dream right? Higher specs/Lower price for a mac mini or iMac 20". How else are recession strapped buyers to get their spouses to allow a BIG LUXURY purchase like an apple computer?

But my e-machine is averaging a reformat once every 6 months. So I'm kind of tired of the Windows merry-go-round. Plus I'd like some slick integrated photo and movie software on a reliable machine that I won't need to be replace for say five years. My e-machine started begging for that at less than 4 years old.

So what do you think? Is this a doable dream with an iMac 20" or even a Mac Mini? Opinions?

A *NEW* $500 Mac Mini or $1099 iMac 20" ?!?!?! ... please pass the napkin.

[idunk]

Because the iMac isnt a pure laptop, it has Desktop parts in it too.
Exactly, and those parts have to do with the reason desktops are certainly preferred over laptops for anyone who doesn't have to carry around a computer.

[appleguy123]

Anything new that Apple releases will obviously be "thinner" they have been on the whole "thin" kick for the past two years.

Soon when things become as thin and light as they can possibly be Apple will try to make it invisible.

Kind of like that skit on SNL :D

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/apple_claims_new_iphone_only :D

[bry223]

Agreed, SSD one component can bring lots of performance improvement. It is very expensive though.

80, 160, 256, 320 GB SSD still possible in iMacs (apple bring some cash out of bank!)

Hopefully they aren't going to use those ancient samsung ssd's if that's the case, they seem alot slower than most SSD's out today and are just as expensive (per apple).

[couto27]

this is what my be the new thinner imac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI3T41ekWag


i buy one if is like that

[puffnstuff]

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/apple_claims_new_iphone_only :D

^haha ... the SNL one
http://espanol.video.yahoo.com/watch/4656101/12447278

I think everyone pretty much gets where SJ is going with making things thinner and smaller :apple:

[JoeG4]

Wonder how they'll make the iMac thinner without sticking a laptop hard drive in it. I'd actually be happier with a THICKER iMac if it meant getting rid of the Jay Leno chin.

That said, let's talk shop:
* IPS displays are (currently) thicker than their TN siblings. Consider the 24" cinema display, it sounds like the target iMac would look about that thick, but have a computer in it. Could they fit a computer in a case that thin along with an IPS screen? I doubt it.

* Next processor. I would definitely hope for an i5, if not i7 in there. The new P55 based setups would work perfect, though I doubt Apple would dare use a performance chipset in the iMac. They'd probably use yet another nvidia IGP if they could get away with it - that may be why we won't see i5/i7 in this speed bump (I'd be kinda surprised if they DID NOT).

* Cooling! How are they going to cool it?! There's already plenty of people with overheating iMacs out there. If they make it any thinner, it'll have to use a mesh backplate.

(Not that I have a problem with that, and the i5/i7 should produce LESS heat than the core 2 does, but the GPUs have not gotten there).

* Laptop guts or desktop guts?

Will it continue to have an internal power supply? DVD drive? Blu-ray drive?

Why hasn't Apple announced their press event yet for such a large change?

[jmpage2]

No, coding for Multi core on a Mac is not easier than on Windows. I code for both systems. Microsoft did a damn good job with Visual Studio and the .NET framework.

On another note, yes Mac Mini needs a price drop... but I hope it's not a price drop to 499 euro because that's a lot of money still.

Considering you can just block out code to call GCD and figure out how many threads are needed AUTOMATICALLY, I would be surprised to see MS making it just as easy.

Every technical article I've read on the technology leads me to believe that GCD is pretty revolutionary for coding multiple threads since you don't have to do any engineering on figuring out how many cores/threads are required, you let GCD do that for you.

[CubeHacker]

I would actually prefer it were a bit THICKER if it meant they could cram better components inside while keeping the insides cooler.

[Buzz Bumble]

Just ordered a new macbook pro last tuesday.
If they do do a refresh, whats the likelihood of being able to take it into the store and swap it out if I don't open the box?

What is the typical way of handling something like this since I purchased from the online store?

The rumour is for updated iMac, Mac Mini and MacBook ... not MacBook Pro.

[mrsir2009]

I think they're fine just the way they are :D

Apple should focus on making their iMacs better in performance, memory, price etc and leave the thickness the same:cool:

[Michael CM1]

At what point will the iMac be an LED screen with a tiny SSD and the MacBook Air guts? I'm all for making stuff thin, but I don't think the current iMacs are exactly hefty. I'd rather see a Blu-ray Disc option and the latest chipsets and CPUs instead of thinness.

I'm kinda the same about MacBooks. Weight is more of an issue than thickness, and I don't want the thing to melt because someone had to make it 1.1" thick instead of 1.2" thick. This 2-year-old MBP is still about half the thickness and weight of the Dell and HP notebooks I owned before.

On a side note, I guess Apple will never decide to offer a $1,500-ish midtower for people who want a desktop but not an all-in-one.

[Scottsdale]

I hate to throw a wrench into what may have or not have been seen. The images I noticed at AI were similar to sponsored/paid ads at Google. Anyone could make an ad like that.

Now maybe there is true verification linking back to an official Apple website.

If it's real, I am most curious to learn the chipsets being used. It should give us some huge insights on the future of Macs!

I cannot wait for a Tuesday am update - I hope...

[MorphingDragon]

No, coding for Multi core on a Mac is not easier than on Windows. I code for both systems. Microsoft did a damn good job with Visual Studio and the .NET framework.


.Net is past its glory days, Ever since V3.0 its become bloated. Visual Studio 2008 was a bit of a shocker to use as well. I went back to Visual Studio 2005 with in a few minutes.

Oh, and I don't believe you.

[DonSqueak]

No, not speakers, fans.

Judging from this forum the new iMacs will not have many fans left...

scnr.

[Inno]

I have seen some argument over whether the new iMacs need to be quad core or not, and I don't want to speak for anyone but myself. Everyone has different things that are important to them or interest them, and to me, buying a computer in 2009 that I will have for 3+ years that is not quad core feels shortsighted.

I fully expect Grand Central Dispatch to be heavily leveraged in future OS releases, and I personally feel like committing to a dual core - no SMT processor right now is not sufficiently forward looking to get my 1500-2000 bucks.

I have had a mix of Macs (5200 series, iMac DV SE, I am due...) and PC's over the years, and with the Macs the #1 thing I have taken away is to be careful what you lock into that can't be upgraded... because this drives how long you can continue to run future cool OS versions. It's always about opportunity cost not just $$$ cost, and I am just not going to buy into a dual core box at this point.

If this refresh is not quad core, I am going to have to really evaluate waiting until the line up changes again, or building a PC, which would be a hard core performer for the same price. I wouldn't be bothering to type this up if I wasn't leaning towards Apple and rooting for them to satisfy me on this point.

This is just me. I like Apple, I dont "want" this refresh to flop, or care to evaluate what the specs might mean to how well these models do for others, I just care that there needs to be at least one forward looking option, or I am not going to bite right now.

(and personally I bet them being thinner is just normal apple high asthetic standards. I predict they will have more powerful tech specs and the thinner part is just a side effect of some engineering decisions)

[vilasgn]

another mac rumor... :)

[DonSqueak]

I hope that the new MacBook is much thinner, yet still white because I like things that are thin and white.

Why would anybody call Kate Moss a thing?

[grahamnp]

Third, do you think apple will actually bring a system down in terms of specs JUST to make a system thinner.

Are you serious?

I wish I could agree with you but unfortunately, Apple has put the aesthetics of their products before many other aspects in the past and I wouldn't be surprised it they do it again.

[fpnc]

The only problem with the idea that Apple will offer dual-core in the low-end iMacs and quad-core in the high end is that there is no currently available CPU/system architecture from Intel that would allow Apple to design one motherboard that would easily support both options. Right now, dual-core would pretty much mean they would have to stick with the current Core 2 Duo. However, quad-core means that they would have to use the new Core i7 Mobile processor which requires a completely different chip set and motherboard. Frankly, I don't see Apple designing a completely new iMac that would depend upon two such different chips and motherboard designs.

However, early in 2010 Intel will be introducing the dual-core Arrandale processor which most likely be used in the next major upgrades to the MacBook Pros. You can consider Arrandale to be the dual-core cousin of the quad-core i7 Mobile. There are differences (obviously) but they share the same CPU architecture and they appear to use the same motherboard socket.

Frankly, if we don't get a quad-core in the next redesign of the iMac then it probably means that Apple is waiting on Arrandale for the next big upgrade to the iMac. Thus, there is some possibility that the changes in the next iMac will be mostly cosmetic and that the "real" upgrades will come early next year with the Arrandale processor and with a high-end option for the quad-core i7 Mobile.

Another possibility, is that they would keep the current Core 2 Duo iMacs for the low end (i.e. no significant changes, same hardware and design as the existing models) and introduce a totally redesigned high end that would use the quad-core i7 Mobile CPU. Then next year the low end would be replaced by the dual-core Arrandale.

Remember also that neither Arrandale nor the i7 Mobile can use NVIDIA's 9400M (integrated-graphics chip set that is used in today's low-end iMacs). Thus, this makes the "best" hardware choices a bit more complex or difficult.

[miki66]

^haha ... the SNL one
http://espanol.video.yahoo.com/watch/4656101/12447278

I think everyone pretty much gets where SJ is going with making things thinner and smaller :apple:

that's hilarious:p, especially the ipod invisible

[chowmein]

The only problem with the idea that Apple will offer dual-core in the low-end iMacs and quad-core in the high end is that there is no currently available CPU/system architecture from Intel that would allow Apple to design one motherboard that would easily support both options. Right now, dual-core would pretty much mean they would have to stick with the current Core 2 Duo. However, quad-core means that they would have to use the new Core i7 Mobile processor which requires a completely different chip set and motherboard. Frankly, I don't see Apple designing a completely new iMac that would depend upon two such different chips and motherboard designs.

However, early in 2010 Intel will be introducing the dual-core Arrandale processor which most likely be used in the next major upgrades to the MacBook Pros. You can consider Arrandale to be the dual-core cousin of the quad-core i7 Mobile. There are differences (obviously) but they share the same CPU architecture and they appear to use the same motherboard socket.

Frankly, if we don't get a quad-core in the next redesign of the iMac then it probably means that Apple is waiting on Arrandale for the next big upgrade to the iMac. Thus, there is some possibility that the changes in the next iMac will be mostly cosmetic and that the "real" upgrades will come early next year with the Arrandale processor and with a high-end option for the quad-core i7 Mobile.

Another possibility, is that they would keep the current Core 2 Duo iMacs for the low end (i.e. no significant changes, same hardware and design as the existing models) and introduce a totally redesigned high end that would use the quad-core i7 Mobile CPU. Then next year the low end would be replaced by the dual-core Arrandale.

Remember also that neither Arrandale nor the i7 Mobile can use NVIDIA's 9400M (integrated-graphics chip set that is used in today's low-end iMacs). Thus, this makes the "best" hardware choices a bit more complex or difficult.

Maybe it'll be like the iPhone and iPod touch, where they keep the same design but shove completely new internals into it and use it as the high-end model while keeping the previous generation model for the low-end.

[Eminemdrdre00]

So do we think these updates could come as soon as Tuesday?