Limbaugh Might Purchase Rams [Archive]

yg17

Oct 6, 2009, 03:58 PM

Nothing would make me boycott that team quicker than that pill popping racist tub of crap buying it.

It's hard enough to like the team as it is since they suck, but Lardball buying it would just end any crap I could ever give about my hometown football team.

My wish is that the players on the team, especially the black ones, refuse to play if he buys the team. If the guy who owned my company was anti-Semitic, I know as a Jew, I wouldn't be working for him. I hope the players have enough sense to not work for a racist who would be in the klan if they made white sheets big enough.

patrick0brien

Oct 6, 2009, 04:10 PM

I hope he does succeed in buying it. It would be interesting to watch what happens.

Thomas Veil

Oct 6, 2009, 04:20 PM

Jesus Christ, like we need another arrogant, controversial owner in the NFL. This would be like Al Davis to the 10th power.

It Rams fans have any sense, they'll start deluging the NFL with protest faxes. (Worked for us here in Cleveland in '96. :D )

Sky Blue

Oct 6, 2009, 04:23 PM

Maybe he's buying actual live Rams to eat whole.

Shivetya

Oct 6, 2009, 04:51 PM

Nothing would make me boycott that team quicker than that pill popping racist tub of crap buying it.

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I would hope liberals would not abandon a team because of what an owner does, after all conservatives haven't abandoned America even with a race warlord/baiting / voting present / cigarette smoker / President now have we?

yg17

Oct 6, 2009, 04:53 PM

conservatives haven't abandoned America

Sometimes I question that.....

Macaddicttt

Oct 6, 2009, 04:55 PM

I would hope liberals would not abandon a team because of what an owner does, after all conservatives haven't abandoned America even with a race warlord/baiting / voting present / cigarette smoker / President now have we?

There are so many things wrong with this post that I don't know where to start. How about we start with the punctuation?

rdowns

Oct 6, 2009, 05:01 PM

He's probably doing it so he can tell his friends that he owns a bunch of black guys. :rolleyes:

leekohler

Oct 6, 2009, 05:11 PM

MacNut

Oct 6, 2009, 05:15 PM

Who cares who owns the team, it is not like they are doing any good with the current ownership.

IgnatiusTheKing

Oct 6, 2009, 05:21 PM

I'm no fan of Limbaugh or the St. Louis Rams, but his comments about segregation on buses was taken completely out of context. Anyone with a brain could see that he was bashing Obama, not calling for a rollback of civil rights.

macfan881

Oct 6, 2009, 05:40 PM

I would hope liberals would not abandon a team because of what an owner does, after all conservatives haven't abandoned America even with a race warlord/baiting / voting present / cigarette smoker / President now have we?

were you living underneath a Cave last week when conservatives were cheering that America lost the Olympics

ucfgrad93

Oct 6, 2009, 05:45 PM

Who cares who owns the team, it is not like they are doing any good with the current ownership.

Agreed.

were you living underneath a Cave last week when conservatives were cheering that America lost the Olympics

Yeah, so were a lot of liberals that didn't want them in Chicago.

Rt&Dzine

Oct 6, 2009, 05:50 PM

leekohler

Oct 6, 2009, 05:52 PM

Yeah, so were a lot of liberals that didn't want them in Chicago.

Yes- but not because we wanted Obama to fail. It was simply because we didn't want the Games here because of our crooked mayor. Big difference.

Macfan's point stands.

Zombie Acorn

Oct 6, 2009, 06:13 PM

Yes- but not because we wanted Obama to fail. It was simply because we didn't want the Games here because of our crooked mayor. Big difference.

Macfan's point stands.

Don't you guys have elections for mayor? If 43% oppose the games because they don't like the mayor then it should be fairly easy to replace him.

leekohler

Oct 6, 2009, 06:27 PM

Don't you guys have elections for mayor? If 43% oppose the games because they don't like the mayor then it should be fairly easy to replace him.

You have no idea how things work in Chicago, do you? This isn't some tiny town in the middle of nowhere. It's the third largest city in the US- big money, big business and big politics. The mob still runs this town in many ways.

Yes, we have elections for mayor. But no one worthwhile will run against Daley due to god knows how much intimidation or payoffs. Our mayoral election turnouts are well below 50% because no one wants to vote for the guy. The best we can hope for is that Fitzgerald gets in here and busts Daley, like he did our governor. And Daley is a Democrat. The Republicans are even worse.

miloblithe

Oct 6, 2009, 10:03 PM

I would hope liberals would not abandon a team because of what an owner does, after all conservatives haven't abandoned America even with a race warlord/baiting / voting present / cigarette smoker / President now have we?

Are you seriously equating the importance of supporting a football team with the importance of supporting your country?

That quite simply makes no sense.

IgnatiusTheKing

Oct 6, 2009, 10:30 PM

You have no idea how things work in Chicago, do you? This isn't some tiny town in the middle of nowhere. It's the third largest city in the US- big money, big business and big politics. The mob still runs this town in many ways.

For further proof on how powerful the Chicago Political Machine is, look no further than Barack Obama.

bobber205

Oct 6, 2009, 10:56 PM

For further proof on how powerful the Chicago Political Machine is, look no further than Barack Obama.

Snap.
:rolleyes:

nbs2

Oct 7, 2009, 09:30 AM

Yes- but not because we wanted Obama to fail. It was simply because we didn't want the Games here because of our crooked mayor. Big difference.

Macfan's point stands.

Really Lee? You think every GOPer was hoping that "America would lose the Olympics" simply because they wanted Obama to fail? That would be as absurd as claiming that all Dems would have wanted the same if Dallas or Houston was bidding while Bush was in office.

Why did I want the Olympics anywhere but the US?:

I remember the Olympics coming to SLC, and I remember doing my best to get out of Dodge. The Paralympics were awesome, but the Olympics was a mess. I think that many of the infrastructure developments were positives, but from my observation it seems that the smaller scale of the Winter vs. the Summer means that we saw less of the negatives than we would have otherwise. Additionally, while there is some profit to be made (China Daily claimed that Bejing made over $146m), I wonder how much of that profit benefits smaller businesses as compared to large businesses and the olympic committees. Finally, I don't like Chicago. I may have gotten past the first two concerns, but that last one is impossible to overcome.

I hope the Cubbies are enjoying their couches this wonderful October.

Edit: Oh yeah, this is a Limbaugh thread. I do think it would be delicious irony if he bought the team and they then made a desperate effort to trade for McNabb, but frankly, he wouldn't be the worst owner that sports has seen in the last couple of decades. Are people that quick to forget Marge Schott? He's a saint compared to that wretch of a woman. But, she is a reminder - owners come and go, a team is forever*. If he works to make the team competitive, people will look past his flaws.

*Unless the owner moves the team (details, I know)

Thomas Veil

Oct 7, 2009, 09:55 AM

Limbaugh Might Purchase RamsYa know, I heard he was into sheep....

sushi

Oct 7, 2009, 10:08 AM

Good for Rush if he can afford it.

leekohler

Oct 7, 2009, 02:09 PM

Really Lee? You think every GOPer was hoping that "America would lose the Olympics" simply because they wanted Obama to fail? That would be as absurd as claiming that all Dems would have wanted the same if Dallas or Houston was bidding while Bush was in office.

Why did I want the Olympics anywhere but the US?:

You may not have, but your leadership most certainly did.

For further proof on how powerful the Chicago Political Machine is, look no further than Barack Obama.

How so? One of the reasons I've always liked the guy is because he's never been part of that. He steered clear of the machine while he was here.

ucfgrad93

Oct 7, 2009, 02:17 PM

How so? One of the reasons I've always liked the guy is because he's never been part of that. He steered clear of the machine while he was here.

Really? He gets elected to the Illinois senate, US Senate, and is elected President without being a part of the Chicago political machine? I find that very difficult to believe.

sysiphus

Oct 7, 2009, 02:21 PM

How so? One of the reasons I've always liked the guy is because he's never been part of that. He steered clear of the machine while he was here.

It seems like a bit of a contradiction to say this--the Chicago political machine is so powerful and corrupt that you can't get a decent mayor--and yet when Obama does it, he's just what, a miracle worker? Lucky? And I suppose that it's just a crazy coincidence that people like Tony Rezko were doing fundraising for him? Nevermind how Rezko basically gave him $500k in their land flip deal to make Obama's house's lot bigger? Nah, that's just being a good neighbor...no reason to think that a mobster was buying influence or something there ;)

Edit--see the post above mine ;)

leekohler

Oct 7, 2009, 02:32 PM

Really? He gets elected to the Illinois senate, US Senate, and is elected President without being a part of the Chicago political machine? I find that very difficult to believe.

Really. He told Daley and Blagojevich to shove it more than a few times. No one does dat to Da Mare. Paul Simon was elected to the senate as well, and that guy was clean as a whistle. Too bad he's gone. He was awesome.

It seems like a bit of a contradiction to say this--the Chicago political machine is so powerful and corrupt that you can't get a decent mayor--and yet when Obama does it, he's just what, a miracle worker? Lucky? And I suppose that it's just a crazy coincidence that people like Tony Rezko were doing fundraising for him? Nevermind how Rezko basically gave him $500k in their land flip deal to make Obama's house's lot bigger? Nah, that's just being a good neighbor...no reason to think that a mobster was buying influence or something there ;)

Edit--see the post above mine ;)

And look what happened to Rezko. Also, Obama owned up to that mistake and apologized. Da Mare would never do such a thing. No one in Chicago politics would ever admit a mistake or apologize. Oh- and Obama paid Rezko for the land, not the other way around.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/124171,CST-NWS-obama05.article

sysiphus

Oct 7, 2009, 02:58 PM

And look what happened to Rezko. Also, Obama owned up to that mistake and apologized. Da Mare would never do such a thing. No one in Chicago politics would ever admit a mistake or apologize. Oh- and Obama paid Rezko for the land, not the other way around.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/124171,CST-NWS-obama05.article

I'm aware that Rezko was paid for the land--but then flipped it to Obama for nowhere close to what he paid. (http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/757340,CST-NWS-watchdog24.article). Less than 1/5th of what it was worth, actually. So he doesn't exactly get a pass on that one. Afterward, he claimed he made a mistake--sure, of course he did! But getting called out on something and apologizing isn't the same thing as not doing it. He'd have to be dumber than a pile of bricks not to know that what he was doing was shady. Everybody and their pet dog knows/knew Rezko was a crook--but Obama didn't complain when Rezko threw a fundraiser party for him, either. It's politics as usual--consort with whatever slimebags move you up in the world--but claim ignorance and innocence if you get called out.

If Obama was/is really so naive that he really didn't think anything was wrong while he was hanging out with Rezko, then he has no business being our president.
He's a slimy politician, just like the rest of them. Like him or not, you're kidding yourself if you think he's really anything different than your average slimeball.

(Other excellent examples of his play-dumb act include trying to hire Tom Daschle and seeing the light about Jerry Wright being a whackjob racist.)

leekohler

Oct 7, 2009, 03:23 PM

I'm aware that Rezko was paid for the land--but then flipped it to Obama for nowhere close to what he paid. (http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/757340,CST-NWS-watchdog24.article). Less than 1/5th of what it was worth, actually. So he doesn't exactly get a pass on that one. Afterward, he claimed he made a mistake--sure, of course he did! But getting called out on something and apologizing isn't the same thing as not doing it. He'd have to be dumber than a pile of bricks not to know that what he was doing was shady. Everybody and their pet dog knows/knew Rezko was a crook--but Obama didn't complain when Rezko threw a fundraiser party for him, either. It's politics as usual--consort with whatever slimebags move you up in the world--but claim ignorance and innocence if you get called out.

If Obama was/is really so naive that he really didn't think anything was wrong while he was hanging out with Rezko, then he has no business being our president.
He's a slimy politician, just like the rest of them. Like him or not, you're kidding yourself if you think he's really anything different than your average slimeball.

(Other excellent examples of his play-dumb act include trying to hire Tom Daschle and seeing the light about Jerry Wright being a whackjob racist.)

Do you have any idea what Daley and Blagojevich got caught doing and refused to apologize for? Far worse than this deal, I can assure you.

BTW- You asked whether Obama was part of the Chicago Machine. I never said he wasn't slimy, just that he wasn't part of the Machine. Blagojevich hated him, because he wouldn't go along with his crooked BS. Daley never had much to say about him either- they weren't buddies.

And I'm in the minority who doesn't consider Wright a racist, nor do necessarily think he was wrong to say some of the things he did.

sysiphus

Oct 7, 2009, 03:35 PM

Do you have any idea what Daley and Blagojevich got caught doing and refused to apologize for? Far worse than this deal, I can assure you.

BTW- You asked whether Obama was part of the Chicago Machine. I never said he wasn't slimy, just that he wasn't part of the Machine. Blagojevich hated him, because he wouldn't go along with his crooked BS. Daley never had much to say about him either- they weren't buddies.

And I'm in the minority who doesn't consider Wright a racist, nor do necessarily think he was wrong to say some of the things he did.

First, yes, I'm quite aware of Daley and Blago's issues--and saying "but X said/did worse" doesn't excuse/change what Obama did.

Second, the question falls back to the same basic issue: if the Chicago machine is SO powerful, how do you explain an under-qualified upstart who made his fair share of "mistakes" getting by without appeasing the "machine?"

Finally, re: Wright, I'm amazed that you think this--but that discussion is probably best left to another thread. Regardless, Obama's "revelation" act in apologizing for stupid stuff after he's gotten called out is getting a bit tired.

And I'm still waiting to hear how the Rezko-Obama land deal was OK, or how Rezko's Obama-approved fundraising was OK. To be fair, I have mixed the labels of "slimy politicio" and "typical Chicago politico"--but I'm just sick of hearing how Obama is something new and special and good--he's just business as usual.

leekohler

Oct 7, 2009, 03:45 PM

First, yes, I'm quite aware of Daley and Blago's issues--and saying "but X said/did worse" doesn't excuse/change what Obama did.

I never said that it did. Why do you keep changing the question?

Second, the question falls back to the same basic issue: if the Chicago machine is SO powerful, how do you explain an under-qualified upstart who made his fair share of "mistakes" getting by without appeasing the "machine?"

The Chicago Machine has nothing to do with someone winning a Senate seat and the Presidency. Chicago does not run the state of Illinois or the United States of America. And I don't find Obama "underqualified". You do. That's your opinion.

Finally, re: Wright, I'm amazed that you think this--but that discussion is probably best left to another thread.

Wright said this:

"said the U.S. had brought on the [9-11 terrorist] attacks with its own terrorism." Ross then aired a clip of Wright saying: "We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and the black South Africans, and now we are indignant. Because the stuff we have done overseas has now been brought back into our own front yard. America's chickens are coming home to roost."

I find little to disagree with here. Did we deserve 9/11? No. But we had a lot to do with making people hate us. Wright seems to be saying we have a lot to make up for in how we treat our neighbors, and I agree with that.

Regardless, Obama's "revelation" act in apologizing for stupid stuff after he's gotten called out is getting a bit tired.

Really? I find it quite refreshing after years of Bush never admitting he was wrong or apologizing for it.

And I'm still waiting to hear how the Rezko-Obama land deal was OK, or how Rezko's Obama-approved fundraising was OK. To be fair, I have mixed the labels of "slimy politicio" and "typical Chicago politico"--but I'm just sick of hearing how Obama is something new and special and good--he's just business as usual.

I never said it was OK. Once again, you're changing the subject. I never said Obama was squeeky clean, just that he wasn't part of the Chicago Machine.

sysiphus

Oct 7, 2009, 03:58 PM

Lee: I never said that it did. Why do you keep changing the question?

Well, if that wasn't your implication, than my mistake...but if so, then why bring it up? What's the relevance?

Lee: The Chicago Machine has nothing to do with someone winning a Senate seat and the Presidency. Chicago does not run the state of Illinois or the United States of America. And I don't find Obama "underqualified". You do. That's your opinion.

I missed the part where you explained how he got his state senate job despite the Chicago machine. As for Obama's qualifications--I guess I have a hard time seeing how a single-term senator who didn't even bother to vote much had enough experience to become president. And yep, it's my opinion--just like it's my opinion that he got elected because he was a young, black guy with a great speechwriter, a guy whose primary qualification was that he wasn't George Bush.

Lee: Wright said this:

I find little to disagree with here. Did we deserve 9/11? No. But we had a lot to do with making people hate us. Wright seems to be saying we have a lot to make up for, and I agree with that.

Well, that's nice--but what about the parts where he said "The government still thinks a woman has no rights over her own body, and between Uncle Clarence who sexually harassed Anita Hill, and a closeted Klan court, that is a throwback to the 19th century" or "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color". Or my personal favorite, on another tack, "God damn America"?
On another note, I'd love to hear about what you think a better alternative would have been to nuking Japan.

Lee: Really? I find it quite refreshing after years of Bush never admitting he was wrong or apologizing for it.

What does Bush have to do with what Obama is doing? What Bush did/said has absolutely nothing to do with Obama's accountability. Just like what Bush said/did had nothing to do with Slick Willy arguing about the definition of the word "is." Besides, the point is not whether he is apologizing or not--it's that he plays dumb about virtually everything that he is called out about.

Lee: I never said it was OK. Once again, you're changing the subject. I never said Obama was squeeky clean, just that he wasn't part of the Chicago Machine.

I believe I already said something to this effect in my previous post.

leekohler

Oct 7, 2009, 04:11 PM

Well, if that wasn't your implication, than my mistake...but if so, then why bring it up? What's the relevance?

I didn't bring it up. Another poster did.

Lee: The Chicago Machine has nothing to do with someone winning a Senate seat and the Presidency. Chicago does not run the state of Illinois or the United States of America. And I don't find Obama "underqualified". You do. That's your opinion.

I missed the part where you explained how he got his state senate job despite the Chicago machine. As for Obama's qualifications--I guess I have a hard time seeing how a single-term senator who didn't even bother to vote much had enough experience to become president.

It's all right there. I don't know what you missed. Chicago doesn't run the state or the country. Another reason- Alan Keyes was running against him. That's a no-brainer as to who people would vote for.

Lee: Wright said this:

I find little to disagree with here. Did we deserve 9/11? No. But we had a lot to do with making people hate us. Wright seems to be saying we have a lot to make up for, and I agree with that.

Well, that's nice--but what about the parts where he said "The government still thinks a woman has no rights over her own body, and between Uncle Clarence who sexually harassed Anita Hill, and a closeted Klan court, that is a throwback to the 19th century" or "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color". Or my personal favorite, on another tack, "God damn America"?

I said I agreed with some of what he said, not all. Regardless, none of what he said makes him a racist.

On another note, I'd love to hear about what you think a better alternative would have been to nuking Japan.

Don't know. I'm not a politician or a soldier. That wasn't the point of my post. The point is that we've caused a lot of misery around the world, justified or not.

Lee: Really? I find it quite refreshing after years of Bush never admitting he was wrong or apologizing for it.

What does Bush have to do with what Obama is doing? What Bush did/said has absolutely nothing to do with Obama's accountability. Just like what Bush said/did had nothing to do with Slick Willy arguing about the definition of the word "is." Besides, the point is not whether he is apologizing or not--it's that he plays dumb about virtually everything that he is called out about.

This is what it has to do with- I find Obama's apologies and admitting to mistakes extremely refreshing after years of what Bush did. Clear enough?

Rt&Dzine

Oct 7, 2009, 04:20 PM

Obama sucks. Blah, blah, blah . . .

Jeesh! IgnatiusTheKing said that Obama was part of the Chicago Machine. Lee responded that he wasn't. Neither was Paul Simon.

zap2

Oct 7, 2009, 04:27 PM

I would hope liberals would not abandon a team because of what an owner does, after all conservatives haven't abandoned America even with a race warlord/baiting / voting present / cigarette smoker / President now have we?

A team and America are very different beasts....giving up one the place you live isn't a great idea, working to change it is, because you still get effected by what happens to your nation. If a sports team doesn't do well, the long term effect are a good deal smaller....it doesn't really matter if the eagles win or lose to me, despite me living near Philly. If American fails, I'm effected greatly

leekohler

Oct 7, 2009, 04:44 PM

Jeesh! IgnatiusTheKing said that Obama was part of the Chicago Machine. Lee responded that he wasn't. Neither was Paul Simon.

Which is also why a lot of people, myself included, like the guy.

Thomas Veil

Oct 7, 2009, 06:00 PM

I happen to know that Oprah got where she is because of the Chicago political machine. I mean she's from Chicago. Duh. ;)

Zombie Acorn

Oct 7, 2009, 06:07 PM

I need to go to chicago, I would be an excellent politician there.

Thomas Veil

Oct 7, 2009, 06:13 PM

I need to go to chicago, I would be an excellent politician there.
I didn't know you had that kind of money. :D

leekohler

Oct 7, 2009, 06:17 PM

I need to go to chicago, I would be an excellent politician there.

Here's the thing- as screwy as our local government is, this is a great place to live. It's clean, beautiful, property/rent are cheap in relation to NYC or LA and you still get the opportunities in business/arts of both of those cities. There is also very little to no homophobia and we have a great gay community. Those are the reasons I moved here and continue to live here after 17 years.

Now we just have to get the city government cleaned up and we'll be perfect. ;)

Zombie Acorn

Oct 7, 2009, 06:31 PM

Here's the thing- as screwy as our local government is, this is a great place to live. It's clean, beautiful, property/rent are cheap in relation to NYC or LA and you still get the opportunities in business/arts of both of those cities. There is also very little to no homophobia and we have a great gay community. Those are the reasons I moved here and continue to live here after 17 years.

Now we just have to get the city government cleaned up and we'll be perfect. ;)

I think the crime rate drags Chicago down in people's personal views quite a bit, do you just live in a nice area of Chicago? Thats one thing I dislike about bigger cities, even Kansas City you make one wrong exit and you could find yourself in the **** (downtown etc). I definitely wouldn't feel safe without a gun.

Des Moines is the same way, get to the west side and its beautiful, clean, etc. Go east or south and its crapville.

leekohler

Oct 7, 2009, 06:41 PM

I think the crime rate drags Chicago down in people's personal views quite a bit, do you just live in a nice area of Chicago? Thats one thing I dislike about bigger cities, even Kansas City you make one wrong exit and you could find yourself in the **** (downtown etc). I definitely wouldn't feel safe without a gun.

Des Moines is the same way, get to the west side and its beautiful, clean, etc. Go east or south and its crapville.

Yeah, I live a very nice neighborhood on the first floor of a beautiful old victorian. Actually, I live right by Blagojevich's house. :eek: The vast majority of the north side is very nice. Much of the south side is too. The areas that are bad are confined. That's where most of the murders and gang violence go on. Trust me, if you visited, you'd never even see those areas. This is a huge city. I haven't seen all of it or even most of it. I don't have the time. There are great neighborhoods on the south side I've been meaning to explore.

Zombie Acorn

Oct 7, 2009, 06:54 PM

Yeah, I live a very nice neighborhood on the first floor of a beautiful old victorian. Actually, I live right by Blagojevich's house. :eek: The vast majority of the north side is very nice. Much of the south side is too. The areas that are bad are confined. That's where most of the murders and gang violence go on. Trust me, if you visited, you'd never even see those areas. This is a huge city. I haven't seen all of it or even most of it. I don't have the time. There are great neighborhoods on the south side I've been meaning to explore.

Good to hear, until one of my friends moved there to work for leo burnett my vision of Chicago was something out of a horror movie (I think its easy to get fixated on violence and ignore the rest of the city). Sounds like you guys have a pretty good music scene up there too.

MacNut

Oct 7, 2009, 08:03 PM

The Chicago Machine has nothing to do with someone winning a Senate seat and the Presidency. Chicago does not run the state of Illinois or the United States of America. And I don't find Obama "underqualified". You do. That's your opinion.
Can't you also argue that Carl Rove doesn't run the US either and he got Bush elected. Obama lined himself up with powerful people that got him elected the same way Bush did.

macfan881

Oct 7, 2009, 08:44 PM

Wow comments by rush today i really hope the nfl takes a stand against Rush.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF7fPlwGFug

Counterfit

Oct 7, 2009, 09:13 PM

leekohler

Oct 8, 2009, 08:42 AM

Can't you also argue that Carl Rove doesn't run the US either and he got Bush elected. Obama lined himself up with powerful people that got him elected the same way Bush did.

However, it wasn't the Chicago Machine. Don't try to change the subject.

Wow comments by rush today i really hope the nfl takes a stand against Rush.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF7fPlwGFug

Whoa. That blows my mind. What an idiot! I don't think the Rams will want much to do with him now.

yg17

Oct 8, 2009, 08:54 AM

I don't think the Rams will want much to do with him now.

If he's the highest bidder they'll forget all about his racist comments.

Like I said earlier, if he buys the Rams, I hope all, or at least the black players on the team refuse to play. Not that they're playing much now, but at least they get in uniform, step onto the field and run around and attempt to score touchdowns. If they refused to suit up and go out and play, it would send a strong message to Rush. Of course, they won't do that because it might mean losing a fraction of their multi million dollar paycheck.

leekohler

Oct 8, 2009, 10:08 AM

If he's the highest bidder they'll forget all about his racist comments.

Like I said earlier, if he buys the Rams, I hope all, or at least the black players on the team refuse to play. Not that they're playing much now, but at least they get in uniform, step onto the field and run around and attempt to score touchdowns. If they refused to suit up and go out and play, it would send a strong message to Rush. Of course, they won't do that because it might mean losing a fraction of their multi million dollar paycheck.

If you've got enough money, you can be as big a s***head you want, I suppose.

MacNut

Oct 8, 2009, 10:34 AM

However, it wasn't the Chicago Machine. Don't try to change the subject.Me change the subject, this thread was suppose to be about Rush Limbaugh buying the Rams. I'd say the ship is on the wrong side of the ocean at this point.:p The Rams are nowhere near Chicago which is where the convo went.

leekohler

Oct 8, 2009, 10:41 AM

Me change the subject, this thread was suppose to be about Rush Limbaugh buying the Rams. I'd say the ship is on the wrong side of the ocean at this point.:p The Rams are nowhere near Chicago which is where the convo went.

Oh for Christ's sake. :rolleyes:

sushi

Oct 8, 2009, 11:06 AM

For those who say Rush Limbaugh is a racist I have a question.

Have you regularly listen to all three hours of his show?

Curious.

leekohler

Oct 8, 2009, 11:24 AM

For those who say Rush Limbaugh is a racist I have a question.

Have you regularly listen to all three hours of his show?

Curious.

Sure have- during the Clinton administration. That's when he could still be considered living in reality somewhat. The man definitely has some problems with race, and much bigger problems with gay rights.

sysiphus

Oct 8, 2009, 02:35 PM

Sure have- during the Clinton administration. That's when he could still be considered living in reality somewhat. The man definitely has some problems with race, and much bigger problems with gay rights.

Maybe you can fill me in--I hear him in snippets when at home, due to my father ALWAYS wanting to listen when driving to/from the golf course--but that's about it. As such, I don't hear many coherent segments of Rush. Any particular examples of him being racist? I'm not asking to be provocative, or because I doubt it--but do you have any examples? (To be clear, I'm a conservative, but I'm not a Coulter-conservative...)

leekohler

Oct 8, 2009, 03:00 PM

Maybe you can fill me in--I hear him in snippets when at home, due to my father ALWAYS wanting to listen when driving to/from the golf course--but that's about it. As such, I don't hear many coherent segments of Rush. Any particular examples of him being racist? I'm not asking to be provocative, or because I doubt it--but do you have any examples? (To be clear, I'm a conservative, but I'm not a Coulter-conservative...)

It's very thinly veiled. There are definite racist undertones, such as the one in the OP. I'd have to go back years to find this stuff. I remember him using the Jeffersons (TV show) theme song to describe Carol Mosely Braun. Here's an example.

When Carol Moseley-Braun (D-IL) was in the U.S. Senate, the first black woman ever elected to that body, Limbaugh would play the "Movin' On Up" theme song from TV's Jeffersons when he mentioned her. Limbaugh sometimes still uses mock dialect -- substituting "ax" for "ask"-- when discussing black leaders.

Such quotes and antics -- many compiled by Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR) for our 1995 book -- offer a whiff of Limbaugh's racial sensibility. So does his claim that racism in America "is fueled primarily by the rantings and ravings" of people like Jesse Jackson. Or his ugly reference two years ago to the father of Madonna's first child, a Latino, as "a gang member-type guy" -- an individual with no gang background.

The guy has issues with race. I don't know why anyone continues to listen to this drug addict.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2549

MacNut

Oct 8, 2009, 03:08 PM

I think you are reading too much into what he says. It is no different then when Howard Stern says stuff that people don't like.

leekohler

Oct 8, 2009, 03:09 PM

I think you are reading too much into what he says. It is no different then when Howard Stern says stuff that people don't like.

Oh OK- black people are just "sensitive" I suppose. And who says Howard Stern isn't offensive? Perhaps you should read the whole article I posted. I heard him say some of that stuff on the program myself. There's no misinterpreting it.

MacNut

Oct 8, 2009, 03:11 PM

I actually think the Jesse Jackson comment is right, he does instigate and make things worse.

leekohler

Oct 8, 2009, 03:13 PM

I actually think the Jesse Jackson comment is right, he does instigate and make things worse.

And people like Limbaugh do not? You can't be serious.

MacNut

Oct 8, 2009, 03:16 PM

And people like Limbaugh do not? You can't be serious.Is Limbaugh actually spouting the N word or actually saying offensive things? Or is he just commentating on what he sees?

leekohler

Oct 8, 2009, 03:17 PM

Is Limbaugh actually spouting the N word or saying actually offensive things? Or is he just commentating on what he sees?

Did you read the article? Do you not find anything he said offensive? REALLY?

MacNut

Oct 8, 2009, 03:23 PM

Did you read the article? Do you not find anything he said offensive? REALLY?Some of it is offensive. I don't think it is as bad as others have said though. How much of it is schtick vs what he actually feels. Plus that article is dated 2000, can we get something more current.

leekohler

Oct 8, 2009, 03:25 PM

Some of it is offensive. I don't think it is as bad as others have said though. How much of it is schtick vs what he actually feels.

What other political commentator do you know who says things like that to be funny? And if you don't believe it, why say it? Why the hell would you ever tell a black caller to "take the bone out of his nose" and expect people not to be offended?

MacNut

Oct 8, 2009, 03:28 PM

What other political commentator do you know who says things like that to be funny? And if you don't believe it, why say it? Why the hell would you ever tell a black caller to "take the bone out of his nose" and expect people not to be offended?The more offensive the more ratings, look at Stern he pissed off everyone and his ratings kept climbing.

leekohler

Oct 8, 2009, 03:32 PM

The more offensive the more ratings, look at Stern he pissed off everyone and his ratings kept climbing.

Then don't be surprised when someone calls you a racist.

iJon

Oct 8, 2009, 05:52 PM

leekohler

Oct 8, 2009, 06:10 PM

I've seen this list of Rush's Top 10 most racist quotes. On the surface they are pretty horrible but after further inspection I couldn't find any evidence that he said any of those quote. I couldn't find any sources or radio air dates in which he said any of these quotes.

I'm not commenting on Rush per say, but I've seen tons of articles referring back to this initial list that someone made. I've just yet to see any evidence supporting it.

The bone in the nose comment is the only one I could find supporting evidence for.

He used the Jefferson's theme song and used "ax" instead of "ask" several times when I listened to him in the 90's. I heard those constantly.

And the bone in the nose comment is pretty terrible. You might want to keep looking. I'm finding tons of evidence for all those, plus some more.

rdowns

Oct 8, 2009, 06:36 PM

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh

Rt&Dzine

Oct 8, 2009, 07:08 PM

If Limbaugh the person is anything like his radio personality, he's disgusting.

But it's more likely he knows this schtick is money in the bank. Sad that it's become the voice of the conservatives.

DiamondMac

Oct 8, 2009, 07:23 PM

I gotta find the youtube clip that was recently taken down

It was a few minutes long and started off showing clips of Rush claiming this or that person was using the race card as an excuse, etc....

Followed up with clips of Rush bringing UP the race card in debates that didnt have anything to do with race

It was priceless and showed how truly hypocritical the fat drug-addicting loser is....

Counterfit

Oct 9, 2009, 12:06 AM

Of course, they won't do that because it might mean losing a fraction of their multi million dollar paycheck.

I dunno, look at how often NFL players hold out during contract disputes.

sushi

Oct 9, 2009, 11:02 AM

Many times Rush uses the absurd to illustrate the absurd. It's easy to miss the real meaning of his words.

It tickles me about how much he bothers liberals. Why do liberals even listen to him if he is wrong, racist, etc.? Why do they worry about what he says? Why would they care?

On the flip side, there are plenty of liberal commentators out there that conservatives dislike as much as liberals dislike Rush. However, we just ignore them. Simple.

Rt&Dzine

Oct 9, 2009, 11:51 AM

leekohler

Oct 9, 2009, 01:16 PM

Rush is considered by many the 'leader' of the republicans/conservatives. That's the difference. People follow his plots, such as Operation Chaos, wanting America to fail, etc.

Exactly. Limbaugh is taken very seriously by a lot of people. He knows it too.

DiamondMac

Oct 9, 2009, 01:16 PM

It tickles me about how much he bothers liberals.

I doubt it does but this argument always makes me chuckle.

So, because people are talking about him and/or mocking him....they are "bothered" by him? Does that mean every right winger is bothered by Obama? Isn't that even funnier that an entire political wing is bothered by one man?

You hear Rush talk about the same liberals every day all the while stating how he isn't afraid at anyone, etc....yet the minute liberals talk about conservatives every day, it is because they are annoyed, bothered, afraid.....

How ridiculous is that argument?

sushi

Oct 9, 2009, 06:29 PM

Exactly. Limbaugh is taken very seriously by a lot of people. He knows it too.
You make a good point.

I doubt it does but this argument always makes me chuckle.

So, because people are talking about him and/or mocking him....they are "bothered" by him? Does that mean every right winger is bothered by Obama? Isn't that even funnier that an entire political wing is bothered by one man?

You hear Rush talk about the same liberals every day all the while stating how he isn't afraid at anyone, etc....yet the minute liberals talk about conservatives every day, it is because they are annoyed, bothered, afraid.....

How ridiculous is that argument?
You missed my point.

On these boards I haven't seen conservatives bashing liberal commentators or that concerned by what they say. Yet at the same time, the opposite seems to be true. I find that very interesting and most amusing at times.

Anyhow, I'll bow out since I seem to be rubbing you a bit on the wrong side and that is not my intention.

Zombie Acorn

Oct 10, 2009, 02:38 AM

You make a good point.

You missed my point.

On these boards I haven't seen conservatives bashing liberal commentators or that concerned by what they say. Yet at the same time, the opposite seems to be true. I find that very interesting and most amusing at times.

Anyhow, I'll bow out since I seem to be rubbing you a bit on the wrong side and that is not my intention.

I doubt conservatives watch liberal commentators.

sushi

Oct 10, 2009, 03:24 AM

I doubt conservatives watch liberal commentators.
Is the converse true? Do liberals watch conservative commentators?

Zombie Acorn

Oct 11, 2009, 02:45 PM

Is the converse true? Do liberals watch conservative commentators?

From the posts I see on this board they do. I see more clips from fox news here than anywhere else I post.

macfan881

Oct 11, 2009, 05:09 PM

macfan881

Oct 11, 2009, 05:11 PM

From the posts I see on this board they do. I see more clips from fox news here than anywhere else I post.

Because Fixed news has shown whhat a huge failure they have been as a news station since they started

Thomas Veil

Oct 11, 2009, 05:19 PM

good to see the Players Union is taking a stand on this
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4551010

i think if the NFL still goes through i dont think this will help out with the lockout situation possibly coming up so i would think the NFL would vote this down to if they were smart.The players' stance is good, but the NFL is not that easily influenced. I still maintain the best way to stop this is for the fans to inundate the NFL with calls and faxes.

Zombie Acorn

Oct 11, 2009, 05:27 PM

Because Fixed news has shown whhat a huge failure they have been as a news station since they started

Must be like crack as you continue to watch. :o

macfan881

Oct 11, 2009, 06:02 PM

Must be like crack as you continue to watch. :o

actaully I dont watch it If you seen my posts i get the from you tube i actaully have Fixed news blocked on my tv.

MacNut

Oct 13, 2009, 07:30 PM

The players' stance is good, but the NFL is not that easily influenced. I still maintain the best way to stop this is for the fans to inundate the NFL with calls and faxes.If the players had such a stance why do they back their own when they do stupid stuff. How many players are given more chances to do stupid crap and the NFL turns their head.

Limbaugh would be a partial owner and not have a say in how the team operates.

The NFL is a bunch of hypocrites, if they block Limbaugh for his views they should also kick out half of the players for the bad image they give the league.

The fans don't care who owns the team as long as the teams wins.

You could argue that Michael Vick did far worse in his actions then Limbaugh did with his words.

Counterfit

Oct 13, 2009, 09:16 PM

It's not just the players who don't want him. At least one owner doesn't either (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4556315).

Shivetya

Oct 14, 2009, 06:36 AM

It's not just the players who don't want him. At least one owner doesn't either (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4556315).

Two things. So much for race not being an issue anymore. Some people cannot give it up because without race conflict they don't exist (see JJ)

Second, for the Colts owner to talk bad about anyone is hilarious, the guy basically snuck out of Baltimore... the cowardly git.

leekohler

Oct 14, 2009, 06:49 AM

Two things. So much for race not being an issue anymore. Some people cannot give it up because without race conflict they don't exist (see JJ)

Limbaugh is the one making it an issue. You really expect players to want to play for a fool who insults them? The guy's an idiot. And yes, I've listened to him several times. I listened all during the Clinton administration. The man is an absolute lying, POS scum drug addict.

Shivetya

Oct 14, 2009, 08:13 AM

Limbaugh is the one making it an issue. You really expect players to want to play for a fool who insults them? The guy's an idiot. And yes, I've listened to him several times. I listened all during the Clinton administration. The man is an absolute lying, POS scum drug addict.

Bull puckey. He isn't making it an issue. People are making it an issue all based on comments made about a quarterback that weren't even racists. The reason people want the comments to be racist is because they don't want to discuss the topic.

If this guy qualifies as an idiot then we all must be dumber than him, he has a hugely successful business and has more friends than any of us would develop over a lifetime. If that is the definition of an idiot I can't imagine what you define yourself as.

See, I can already write off your opinion because your own writing is no worse than what you ascribe to him. You use innuendo and such to make it appear as if you have a fact based opinion instead of the rants stemming strictly from emotion.

Look at it this way. Rush has been around a long time. He has millions of faithful listeners, both those who love him and those who want to take him down. George Soros has a stenographer team document everything he says on air (and his guest hosts). We have twenty plus years of his radio and where are the racist sound bites that should doom him? WHERE ARE THEY?

Oh, that's right, like most cry babies they are pulled out of their asses where they cannot be verified because they never existed. You cannot produce them because better funded and organized people than those posting here haven't been able to either.

For any member of the NFL to complain about him is purest form of hypocrisy... sorry the let Vick back in. The keep drunks and druggies employed. The NFL is anything but a bastion of people who have a right to judge others.

Let alone I doubt a racist would have a off the mic black side kick actually hanging around, let alone be allowed to associate with some very respected black professionals.

So keep tossing out your drug, racist, and other such comments, they make you look like an emotional fool and those people are easily discounted in debates. Dime a dozen.

leekohler

Oct 14, 2009, 08:19 AM

Bull puckey. He isn't making it an issue. People are making it an issue all based on comments made about a quarterback that weren't even racists. The reason people want the comments to be racist is because they don't want to discuss the topic.

If this guy qualifies as an idiot then we all must be dumber than him, he has a hugely successful business and has more friends than any of us would develop over a lifetime. If that is the definition of an idiot I can't imagine what you define yourself as.

See, I can already write off your opinion because your own writing is no worse than what you ascribe to him. You use innuendo and such to make it appear as if you have a fact based opinion instead of the rants stemming strictly from emotion.

Look at it this way. Rush has been around a long time. He has millions of faithful listeners, both those who love him and those who want to take him down. George Soros has a stenographer team document everything he says on air (and his guest hosts). We have twenty plus years of his radio and where are the racist sound bites that should doom him? WHERE ARE THEY?

Oh, that's right, like most cry babies they are pulled out of their asses where they cannot be verified because they never existed. You cannot produce them because better funded and organized people than those posting here haven't been able to either.

For any member of the NFL to complain about him is purest form of hypocrisy... sorry the let Vick back in. The keep drunks and druggies employed. The NFL is anything but a bastion of people who have a right to judge others.

Let alone I doubt a racist would have a off the mic black side kick actually hanging around, let alone be allowed to associate with some very respected black professionals.

So keep tossing out your drug, racist, and other such comments, they make you look like an emotional fool and those people are easily discounted in debates. Dime a dozen.

And your posts are the picture of intellectualism. :rolleyes:

If you'd bother to look at this thread, you'd see there are indeed plenty of documented racist comments made by Limbaugh. Google works well too.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh

Those quotes all have sources. Have fun. And Limbaugh IS a drug addict. I don't see how stating fact is "emotional". And there are lots of stupid people with money. Having money doesn't make one intelligent or wise. Furthermore, while Limbaugh may not be racist per se, he definitely has issues with race.

nbs2

Oct 14, 2009, 08:51 AM

Quick question - I happened on a report that Limbaugh is threatening to go after some of the folks reporting his quotes, claiming that he never said a lot/most of those things. Does anybody have video or directly attributable writings (a book or article he wrote) of his race-baiting?

I saw the McNabb thing. I don't know how to read it, because if it had been uttered on PTI, I don't thing anybody would have noticed. I know his feelings about Obama, and again, it is sort of shruggable - I dont think he treated him any different than he treated Clinton. I know his feelings on Sharpton and Jackson, and...well...it'd be tough to disagree with him on those two.

What I can't find (mostly because I am at work) are evidence of his most inciteful comments.

Edit - I looked at teh link that lee provided, and even there, it seems like many of the comments that would be the most offensive cannot be tied back. Is someone working on this, right now it really does let him paint himself as the victim of a vast left-wing conspiracy rather than a blathering blatherer.

leekohler

Oct 14, 2009, 08:55 AM

Quick question - I happened on a report that Limbaugh is threatening to go after some of the folks reporting his quotes, claiming that he never said a lot/most of those things. Does anybody have video or directly attributable writings (a book or article he wrote) of his race-baiting?

I saw the McNabb thing. I don't know how to read it, because if it had been uttered on PTI, I don't thing anybody would have noticed. I know his feelings about Obama, and again, it is sort of shruggable - I dont think he treated him any different than he treated Clinton. I know his feelings on Sharpton and Jackson, and...well...it'd be tough to disagree with him on those two.

What I can't find (mostly because I am at work) are evidence of his most inciteful comments.

Look at the links provided in this thread. Then check out the youtube link on page 2, I believe it is.

nbs2

Oct 14, 2009, 09:03 AM

Look at the links provided in this thread. Then check out the youtube link on page 2, I believe it is.

YT doesn't fly at work. I'll see how well ATT's 3G is running when I go home. Which comments were they?

What I'm curious to know is how much of the group does Rush make up? Is he the primary/secondary or just another one of the many smaller investors? If he is just a bit player, does that change the issue? Of course, as a primary, he would be essential to keep on board; as a bit player, he could be jettisoned without problem if public pressure gets to be too much.

leekohler

Oct 14, 2009, 10:04 AM

YT doesn't fly at work. I'll see how well ATT's 3G is running when I go home. Which comments were they?

Something to the effect that basketball is merely the favorite sport of gang members.

Counterfit

Oct 14, 2009, 11:28 AM

Two things. So much for race not being an issue anymore.

The one who has made it an issue is the windbag behind the microphone. Especially considering that he was flat-out wrong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donovan_McNabb#NFL_records) when he called Donovan McNabb "overrated".

And believe me, I'm a Cowboys fan, and I'm saying that.

nbs2

Oct 14, 2009, 12:00 PM

Something to the effect that basketball is merely the favorite sport of gang members.

Silly Rush. Everybody knows that it's cricket that east coast gangs can't get enough of. Basketball is only popular on the west coast.

The one who has made it an issue is the windbag behind the microphone. Especially considering that he was flat-out wrong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donovan_McNabb#NFL_records) when he called Donovan McNabb "overrated".

And believe me, I'm a Cowboys fan, and I'm saying that.

As an Eagles fan, I wish I could agree. He's certainly been an effective QB, but, like Jim Kelly's Super Bowls, all those NFC Championship games taint him. As a result, you have a lot of folks who think he is overrated and others who this he is underrated. Both he and Kelly were great QBs and have HoF stats. But, continual failure one step shy of the great stage (and Kelly on the stage), means that his standing will be debated. Cunningham had the potential to be the best in team history had he had better any offensive coaching. Potential is meaningless without execution.

I think Peyton Manning is the second greatest QB of all time, and the greatest of this generation. There are a lot of people who would agree with me on the generation point, but without that SB, I think Tom "The Devil's Own" Brady would have universally walked away with that title. I wouldn't have called Rush flat-out wrong, but I wouldn't call him right.

If you want to talk about overrated black quarterbacks, the conversation needs to center around Dante Culpepper. Without Randy Moss, he would have been out of the league in two years. Although, I suppose enough people think he was overrated that at this point he is rated where he should have been all along.

leekohler

Oct 14, 2009, 12:06 PM

Silly Rush. Everybody knows that it's cricket that east coast gangs can't get enough of. Basketball is only popular on the west coast.

As an Eagles fan, I wish I could agree. He's certainly been an effective QB, but, like Jim Kelly's Super Bowls, all those NFC Championship games taint him. As a result, you have a lot of folks who think he is overrated and others who this he is underrated. Both he and Kelly were great QBs and have HoF stats. But, continual failure one step shy of the great stage (and Kelly on the stage), means that his standing will be debated. Cunningham had the potential to be the best in team history had he had better any offensive coaching. Potential is meaningless without execution.

I think Peyton Manning is the second greatest QB of all time, and the greatest of this generation. There are a lot of people who would agree with me on the generation point, but without that SB, I think Tom "The Devil's Own" Brady would have universally walked away with that title. I wouldn't have called Rush flat-out wrong, but I wouldn't call him right.

If you want to talk about overrated black quarterbacks, the conversation needs to center around Dante Culpepper. Without Randy Moss, he would have been out of the league in two years. Although, I suppose enough people think he was overrated that at this point he is rated where he should have been all along.

My favorite is the Limbaugh quote saying that Rex Grossman was dumped from the Bears for being white. :rolleyes: The guy obviously doesn't live here. We just wanted a decent quarterback, that's all. And Grossman couldn't handle pressure. He proved that over and over.

nbs2

Oct 14, 2009, 12:25 PM

My favorite is the Limbaugh quote saying that Rex Grossman was dumped from the Bears for being white. :rolleyes: The guy obviously doesn't live here. We just wanted a decent quarterback, that's all. And Grossman couldn't handle pressure. He proved that over and over.

No way. He was totally dumped for being white. Same reason they dumped Kyle Orton.

With a black man like Jay Cutler at QB they should be unstoppable, as evidenced by their 3-1 record.

leekohler

Oct 14, 2009, 12:34 PM

No way. He was totally dumped for being white. Same reason they dumped Kyle Orton.

With a black man like Jay Cutler at QB they should be unstoppable, as evidenced by their 3-1 record.

:D Too funny. ;)

mscriv

Oct 14, 2009, 01:26 PM

I admit up front that I have not researched this topic and don't know all of the specific details regarding the Rush ownership thing. However, I think it's safe to say that we all know the NFL will base their decision on one thing. The almighty dollar, CHA CHING $$$$. The NFL will weigh how Limbaugh becoming an owner will affect their pocket book and based on that they will make a choice. Hey, sometimes controversy is good for business, sometimes it's not. The decision will solely be based on how it affects the league and their reputation (ability to make money) alone.

beatzfreak

Oct 14, 2009, 06:34 PM

Rush Limbaugh is expected to be dropped from a group bidding to buy the St. Louis Rams, according to three NFL sources.

Dave Checketts, chairman of the NHL's St. Louis Blues and the point man in the Limbaugh group attempting to buy the Rams, realizes he must remove the controversial conservative radio host from his potential role as a minority member in the group in order to get approval from other NFL owners, the sources said.

Three-quarters of the league's 32 owners would have to approve any sale to Limbaugh and his group. Earlier this week, Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay predicted that Limbaugh's potential bid would be met by significant opposition. Several players have also voiced their displeasure with Limbaugh's potential ownership position, and NFL Players Association head DeMaurice Smith, who is black, urged players to speak out against Limbaugh's bid.

Ultimately, the sources said, Checketts must reconfigure his group and find another investor to make his bid more viable.

LINK (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4559454)

We'll see what happens, but I'm sure Rush will find a way to milk this.

Thomas Veil

Oct 14, 2009, 07:48 PM

That same linked story is now confirming that it's true.

Now we'll have to listen to him go on and on about how it wasn't his mouth that got him into trouble, it was liberals. :rolleyes:

leekohler

Oct 14, 2009, 10:04 PM

Good riddance to bad rubbish. And it has nothing to do with conservative vs liberal. It has to do with being a decent human being vs an a**hole.

Rampant.A.I.

Oct 15, 2009, 03:40 AM

Hopefully he uses the leftover cash to buy some Haldol or something.

LethalWolfe

Oct 15, 2009, 04:31 AM

On the irony. A bunch of old, rich white dudes (most likely conservatives) told Rush they most certainly did not want him to be part of their exclusive, rich-boys club. Ha!

Lethal

macfan881

Oct 15, 2009, 10:02 PM

Aww poor lil rush is crying!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEJAgaEMKC0&feature=youtube_gdata

haha i couldnt help but laugh histerical through out that.

MacNut

Oct 16, 2009, 12:58 PM

Good riddance to bad rubbish. And it has nothing to do with conservative vs liberal. It has to do with being a decent human being vs an a**hole.If the NFL is going to go that route, why did they allow Michael Vick and Pacman Jones back into the league.

leekohler

Oct 16, 2009, 01:33 PM

If the NFL is going to go that route, why did they allow Michael Vick and Pacman Jones back into the league.

I would guess that their pluses outweighed their minuses.

nbs2

Oct 16, 2009, 02:02 PM

I would guess that their pluses outweighed their minuses.

And Leonard Little's pluses outweighed his minuses? I'm not a fan of Limbaugh, and I think his bloated ego has caused him to shift from "kind of wierd" to "uh-huh, sure, whatever you say." But, he never killed anybody.

Fan pressure knocking Rush out would have been fine, but I don't care for how the rest of this was handled. The decisions that the oweners took just feeds into the mentality that athletes should be granted exemptions not available to the little people. Not that Rush would ever consider himself a commoner, but you know what I'm trying to say.

leekohler

Oct 16, 2009, 02:09 PM

And Leonard Little's pluses outweighed his minuses? I'm not a fan of Limbaugh, and I think his bloated ego has caused him to shift from "kind of wierd" to "uh-huh, sure, whatever you say." But, he never killed anybody.

Fan pressure knocking Rush out would have been fine, but I don't care for how the rest of this was handled. The decisions that the oweners took just feeds into the mentality that athletes should be granted exemptions not available to the little people. Not that Rush would ever consider himself a commoner, but you know what I'm trying to say.

I guess all I'm saying is- maybe those other guys brought more to the table value-wise than Limbaugh. Otherwise, I'm sure they'd be gone too. Sounds to me that they thought Limbaugh carried too much baggage they didn't want to deal with.

MacNut

Oct 16, 2009, 02:16 PM

leekohler

Oct 16, 2009, 02:17 PM

What about all the Michael Vick baggage? They didn't seem to care about that.

Michael Vick also paid for his crimes. We can't punish people forever.

Limbaugh is blatantly unapologetic for the things he's done.

nbs2

Oct 16, 2009, 02:20 PM

I guess all I'm saying is- maybe those other guys brought more to the table value-wise than Limbaugh. Otherwise, I'm sure they'd be gone too. Sounds to me that they thought Limbaugh carried too much baggage they didn't want to deal with.

I get your point. I just think that the level of hypocricy is perturbing. The value that Rush would have brought - not to generalize, but I suspect that his audience lines up very well with the NFL's audience - was greater than what Vick, or especially Little and Jones, brings to the league.

I think the greater intent was to firm up the position of the owners as gatekeepers to their little world. It was a statement that they wield their power for good, not evil, so don't question it.

Zombie Acorn

Oct 16, 2009, 02:25 PM

I get your point. I just think that the level of hypocricy is perturbing. The value that Rush would have brought - not to generalize, but I suspect that his audience lines up very well with the NFL's audience - was greater than what Vick, or especially Little and Jones, brings to the league.

I think the greater intent was to firm up the position of the owners as gatekeepers to their little world. It was a statement that they wield their power for good, not evil, so don't question it.

It is a bit strange that 32 owners have to agree for anyone to buy a team.

leekohler

Oct 16, 2009, 02:31 PM

I get your point. I just think that the level of hypocricy is perturbing. The value that Rush would have brought - not to generalize, but I suspect that his audience lines up very well with the NFL's audience - was greater than what Vick, or especially Little and Jones, brings to the league.

I think the greater intent was to firm up the position of the owners as gatekeepers to their little world. It was a statement that they wield their power for good, not evil, so don't question it.

You think liberals don't watch football, or blacks or other minorities Limbaugh likes to rip on? :confused:

I can certainly tell you you're wrong about that. The owners were very concerned for their viewership on this one. Believe me.

CorvusCamenarum

Oct 16, 2009, 03:39 PM

Michael Vick also paid for his crimes. We can't punish people forever.

Limbaugh is blatantly unapologetic for the things he's done.

Michael Vick is a criminal, is he not? Limbaugh may be a disgusting c**khole, but what he broadcasts isn't criminal in nature.

Macaddicttt

Oct 16, 2009, 03:56 PM

Michael Vick is a criminal, is he not? Limbaugh may be a disgusting c**khole, but what he broadcasts isn't criminal in nature.

So if you commit a crime you're blacklisted from everything even after you've paid your debt to society?

Being a racist isn't illegal, but would you prefer a member of the KKK over a repentant criminal? I would hope not.

"Being convicted of a crime" is such an arbitrary standard that it really doesn't mean anything. I'll take an apologetic criminal over an unapologetic racist any day.

MacNut

Oct 16, 2009, 04:54 PM

It is a bit strange that 32 owners have to agree for anyone to buy a team.It takes 2/3rds of the owners.

leekohler

Oct 16, 2009, 07:03 PM

Michael Vick is a criminal, is he not? Limbaugh may be a disgusting c**khole, but what he broadcasts isn't criminal in nature.

Michael Vick also did his time and paid a out a lot of money to help abused animals. He's paid for what he did. Why do people always think people have to pay forever? And Limbaugh is a drug addict who used his maid to get drugs for him. Just because he wasn't caught doesn't excuse what he did.

EMKoper

Oct 17, 2009, 04:38 AM

Because Fixed news has shown whhat a huge failure they have been as a news station since they started

They seem to be doing pretty well... far from a failure ... mostly #1 the ratings for any day I can find in recent times!

http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/top-news/cable-news

Cable News Ratings for Wednesday, October 14, 2009
Posted on 15 October 2009 by Robert Seidman
Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for October 14, 2009

P2+ Total Day
FNC – 1,437,000 viewers
CNN – 520,000 viewers
MSNBC –380,000 viewers
CNBC – 233,000 viewers
HLN –333,000 viewers

P2+ Prime Time
FNC – 2,699,000viewers
CNN— 933,000 viewers
MSNBC –887,000 viewers
CNBC – 206,000 viewers
HLN – 730,000 viewers

Zombie Acorn

Oct 17, 2009, 04:51 AM

Michael Vick also did his time and paid a out a lot of money to help abused animals. He's paid for what he did. Why do people always think people have to pay forever? And Limbaugh is a drug addict who used his maid to get drugs for him. Just because he wasn't caught doesn't excuse what he did.

Anyone who has ever abused a dog purposely never feels what regular people do anyways. You don't live it down, you pay it off. Lets just hope it doesn't extend itself to the human population some day, I can think of many humans I would rather have go than my peaceful dog.

IgnatiusTheKing

Oct 17, 2009, 05:23 PM

I find it ironic that, after all the cries of Limbaugh's racism, no one has been able to substantiate the alleged quotes. In fact, the Huffington Post has retracted them (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jack-huberman/rush-limbaugh-is-still-sc_b_24724.html) and Rick Sanchez retracted them (http://twitter.com/ricksanchezcnn/status/4901464014) on Twitter.

Still, if you hate Rush, mission accomplished.

LethalWolfe

Oct 17, 2009, 07:15 PM

I'm not sure which quotes you are referring to but Rush drawing a comparison between violent, black street gangs and the NFL and NBA are straight from his show. And of course the McNabb comment was on TV although I don't that was racist.

All that aside though Rush is a very divisive person and when you are trying to grow the NFL brand (especially internationally) you don't want a divisive person like Rush to be a team owner. People like Vick and Pacman (who blew his 2nd chance and is done in the NFL) are employees of their teams and can easily be fined, suspended, or downright banished from the NFL. Those things aren't so easy to do to an owner. Rush being a firebrand has been great for his radio show but the NFL doesn't want any part of the unapologetic fallout that he generates on a regular basis.

Lethal