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blackfox
Jul 15, 2004, 11:54 PM
Editorial from Wash. Post
In Calif., Power by Plebiscite

By George F. Will
Thursday, July 15, 2004; Page A21

SAN DIEGO -- From this metropolis to the rural stretches near the Oregon border, California's contentment with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is palpable. And measurable: At 65 percent, his job approval after eight months in office is five points higher than ever achieved by his hero, Gov. Ronald Reagan. Schwarzenegger's success -- a happy audience is an entertainer's sovereign measure of success -- involves substantive and atmospheric achievements.


Bismarck, a cynic, supposedly said about dealing with political opponents that you can do anything with children if you will play with them. Schwarzenegger, no cynic, is a genuinely ebullient and friendly fellow whose report card says he plays well with others.

By bestowing on them such kindnesses as invitations to join him for cigars in his smoking tent on the capitol lawn, he has done in Sacramento what George Bush vowed to do but has failed to do in Washington -- produce an ambiance of bipartisanship. But in Sacramento, as elsewhere, bipartisanship often is the elevation of the shared interests of the political class over the public interest.

In Washington, the passage by Congress of the prescription drug entitlement in November was made possible by the bipartisan pretense that its 10-year cost would be only $400 billion. That perishable fiction -- a few weeks later it was adjusted sharply upward, not for the last time -- enabled Republicans and Democrats to feign fiscal responsibility while currying favor with a huge constituency, the elderly.

In Sacramento, bipartisanship has produced what probably will be a very perishable solution to the state's fiscal crisis. Schwarzenegger, who was made governor by a plebiscitary process -- the recall of Gov. Gray Davis -- promptly used California's plebiscitary political culture, and the initiative process, to pass Proposition 57, authorizing the state to borrow $15 billion.

State Sen. Tom McClintock, the conservative who had the temerity -- lese-majeste, it seemed -- to run against Schwarzenegger in the recall scramble, says that although Proposition 57 was sold to voters as borrowing merely to cover past expenditures, at least $2 billion of it will be used to paper over subsequent spending decisions. He says that in the 14 months from May 1 through next June 30, there will be a 54 percent increase -- from $33 billion to $50.7 billion -- in debt backed by general fund revenue.

"Borrowed money," he says dryly, "may feel just like real money when it's sitting in our pockets, but we have to pay it back." However, that concerns tomorrow, and as an entertainment -- the musical "Annie" -- taught, tomorrow is always a day away. Schwarzenegger, a political rookie, has a precocious understanding of the Annie principle of governance: Voters lavish approval on leaders who arrange for future voters to pay for current consumption of government services.

He has wrung some money -- not as much as he sought or as his budget assumes -- from Indian casinos. He has begun reforming California's job-destroying workers' compensation system. But his first budget is a pastiche of optimistic assumptions, creative accounting and largely cosmetic "sacrifices" purchased from interest groups by promising them expensive recompense, soon. The bills will come due in 2006, when Schwarzenegger will be seeking reelection.

Meanwhile, he husbands his popularity so he can govern as no previous governor has -- by using his celebrity to cow the legislature with threats to enact policies through initiatives. This practice offends the spirit of the national Constitution's guarantee that every state shall have a republican form of government. The essence of that form is representation, by which the people do not make laws, they decide who will make them: legislators. Not surprisingly, Schwarzenegger has said that California should have a part-time legislature because it "already doesn't have enough to do."

Swiftly, the great question of California politics has been inverted. Nine months ago it was: Can celebrity -- celebrity far greater than Ronald Reagan's in his pre-presidential years -- in the service of a sharp but unseasoned political intelligence govern this vast, troubled state? Now the question is: Can California be effectively governed only by the threat of plebiscitary actions? That is, can it be governed only by a mega-celebrity who can move multitudes to sign petitions to get propositions on the ballot, and who can attract millions of dollars to pass them?

A century ago, California populists' rationale for ballot initiatives was that, being initiated by ordinary citizens, they would empower the many, who are weak. Today Schwarzenegger uses the threat of initiatives to magnify the power of most powerful person in the state, the governor.

So I found this quite interesting, especially in the context of the debate (at least within this forum) on the Bush Administration and their attempts at governance by fiat, that there would be this development taking a different tact.

It would seem, at least as I took the article, that Arnold has used his popularity as a celebrity and at least initially former Gov. Davis's unpopularity to borrow money (15B) to address the state's budget shortfall, by the use of a voter ballot initiatives. It then seems that some of this money is being used to fund current and future programs/policies (which was not advertised) with the underlying debt increasing till when the bills come in 2006.

Still, for the moment, he is wildly popular, and is using this popularity to lean on the State Legislature to do his bidding, or he will take it to the people through iniatives, propositions and ballot measures, which he has the popularity to move voters and fundraisers alike.

This seems to violate the Constitutional stipulation that all states employ a Republican form of government. It would seems that in California, elected officials are in threat of becoming superflous...

So what say you? Is this pseudo-populism good, bad, illegal? Is the California legislature and beauracracy getting what they deserve? Are the voters? Is this all overblown and a merely transitory phenomenon?

I think it is a very unique situation deserving of some discussion...



zimv20
Jul 16, 2004, 12:11 AM
as an intellectual elite (i'm poking fun of myself here), i deride the idea of populism, because the people just aren't well enough informed. i like to think that's why we have representatives.

so if schwarzenegger is using populism as a threat, it's probably an effective one. not only does it render representation irrelevant ("they should be part time"), it plays directly to that throw-the-bums-out bias.

it's an interesting ploy. i suspect it will eventually catch up him, once people realize that he can be a bum, too. i do wonder how much of his popularity is propped up by the artificial high of spending borrowed money.

yeah, i feel rich when i max out my credit card, too.

mischief
Jul 16, 2004, 10:31 AM
as an intellectual elite (i'm poking fun of myself here), i deride the idea of populism, because the people just aren't well enough informed. i like to think that's why we have representatives.

so if schwarzenegger is using populism as a threat, it's probably an effective one. not only does it render representation irrelevant ("they should be part time"), it plays directly to that throw-the-bums-out bias.

it's an interesting ploy. i suspect it will eventually catch up him, once people realize that he can be a bum, too. i do wonder how much of his popularity is propped up by the artificial high of spending borrowed money.

yeah, i feel rich when i max out my credit card, too.


Heh... Imagine the fun if somebody decided to convert a number of those "idle seats" in Sacramento into BSD servers. "It's more fiscally responsible to remove the legislature from the budgetary process altogether"

The rest of the country would PANIC.

On a more personal note: Your stance on professional representation makes you a republicist (not republican mind you) rather than a democracist. You believe in an intellectual hegemony of de-facto governing specialists that can't help but become family lines and subcultures. The problem with a Republic model is that it can't be prevented from becoming Feudal after a short time (say 200 years).

Desertrat
Jul 16, 2004, 11:34 AM
Yeah, mischief; I remember a bumper sticker from some years back, "Vote for the Kennedy of your choice, but VOTE!"

'Rat

IJ Reilly
Jul 16, 2004, 11:35 AM
Will shoots wide of the target. The Medicare prescription drug program can't really be read as an act of "populism," at least as it used to be defined. It is in fact another large shift of public funds to corporations, dressed up in a thin veneer of populism. That's the real story here -- the way populism has been redefined, if not hijacked. Don't believe it? Consider whether it would be possible to pass a genuine populist program like Medicare or Social Security in today's environment. It would have to be designed as a huge corporate give-away, or it'd go nowhere in Congress. That's what's become of populism. It's dead and buried, no matter what George Will says.

As for Gov. Ahhnold, he is only "wildly popular" because of the basket-case of a governor he succeeded. He's managed to accomplish a few things, and for that I give him credit, but insofar as job-approval numbers are concerned, the voters at this point are mainly giving themselves a pat on the back for turning out Davis and replacing him with a charismatic celebrity. Let's take another look at those numbers in 2006.

mischief
Jul 16, 2004, 11:45 AM
It's just scarce.

This Republic goes through periodic Populist backlash after a deep period of Republicist repression of Democratist ideals. We are nearing another of these pseudo-revolutionary periods. It seems to be a relic of the British political climate that has become the dominant patern... despite it's status as an anachronism.

zimv20
Jul 16, 2004, 12:31 PM
i think agreeing on a definition of populism would be helpful at this point.

i just did a dictionary.com on it: "A political philosophy supporting the rights and power of the people in their struggle against the privileged elite."

i should adjust my understanding of it, as my comments above were made in the (now i see somewhat mistaken) view that populism meant that all decisions are made directly by the constituency.

mischief
Jul 16, 2004, 12:42 PM
i think agreeing on a definition of populism would be helpful at this point.

i just did a dictionary.com on it: "A political philosophy supporting the rights and power of the people in their struggle against the privileged elite."

i should adjust my understanding of it, as my comments above were made in the (now i see somewhat mistaken) view that populism meant that all decisions are made directly by the constituency.

That'd be a pure democracy. The irony is that a Pure democracy and a pure (non-bolshevic) communistic state differ only slightly.... One allows room for private enterprise and the other does not.

I like Socialist Democracies... somewhat in the middle. Lots of good grass roots driven social programs and safeguards to prevent an oligarchic republic model.

zimv20
Jul 16, 2004, 12:49 PM
I like Socialist Democracies... somewhat in the middle. Lots of good grass roots driven social programs and safeguards to prevent an oligarchic republic model.
same here. i will revise my original statement: "i think americans are too misinformed for a pure democracy to work."

blackfox
Jul 16, 2004, 03:54 PM
Nice post IJ...
I have to agree that the chickens will come home to roost come 2006.
Still, I have to ask whether governance like this is even allowable under the Constitution. Should this be considered a Legal matter, aside from discussion of how it relates to, or has redifined Populism?

It would seem to me that both the bypassing of legitimately elected Legislatures (or the threat of bypass) and the added role of special-interest money in funding ballot-iniatives walks a fine line of legality to me...it also sets a disturbing precendent...

pseudobrit
Jul 16, 2004, 07:37 PM
That'd be a pure democracy. The irony is that a Pure democracy and a pure (non-bolshevic) communistic state differ only slightly.... One allows room for private enterprise and the other does not.

I think that's a simplification of things. People tend to lump fascism, democracy and communism together. In practice, communism is more of an economic structure with capitalism, fascism, and socialism while democracy belongs with parliament/monarchy and dictatorship in groups of political systems. My attempt to split the groups is still an oversimplification; there are areas of overlap in any definition.

For instance, the Soviet Union was a communist dictatorship, while Nazi Germany was a fascist dictatorship. They were both the same flavour of government; only the economic systems were opposite.

So when you say a democracy and communist government only have a slight difference, that difference is only observed because of how each system has been used in practice. One could have a communist democracy, just as you can have a capitalist dictatorship. It's just that they're not likely to evolve.

skunk
Jul 16, 2004, 08:14 PM
That'd be a pure democracy. The irony is that a Pure democracy and a pure (non-bolshevic) communistic state differ only slightly.... One allows room for private enterprise and the other does not.
But that's a HUGE difference.

I like Socialist Democracies... somewhat in the middle. Lots of good grass roots driven social programs and safeguards to prevent an oligarchic republic model.
How are you defining a Socialist Democracy? You'll have to explain a little, if you don't mind, because over here in Geriatrically-Challenged Europe we define these things differently. :)

pseudobrit
Jul 17, 2004, 01:25 PM
But that's a HUGE difference.


How are you defining a Socialist Democracy? You'll have to explain a little, if you don't mind, because over here in Geriatrically-Challenged Europe we define these things differently. :)

He's probably thinking of Social Democracy, which is a democracy where an economic system of capitaiism is balanced with a measure of socialist structures.

skunk
Jul 17, 2004, 02:29 PM
He's probably thinking of Social Democracy, which is a democracy where an economic system of capitaiism is balanced with a measure of socialist structures.
OK. Social Democracy I can understand.

mischief
Jul 19, 2004, 10:12 AM
OK. Social Democracy I can understand.

I just love how often I can get a rise out of some folks here in the USA by using the term "socialist" in a positive light. After all, the term has been so demonized here that the only two examples Americans can bring to mind are the National Socialist Party of Germany and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

Oversimplification is a side effect of having a character-cap on posts. ;)

It's also a bit difficult to get folks to follow a discussion about shadings of political structure when 90% of them don't know what the difference between a Populist, Social and Republican Democracy are.

Americans have been thouroughly trained to see populism as kooky and Social Policies as a waste of money. Never mind that the Social Democracy (usually a Parliament) is the most popular form of Government in the developped world. Never mind that a strong base of Social Programs make for better moralle and better long-term national stability.

For the benefit of our more isolated American bretheren could I talk one of you Brits into explaining a Parliamentary structure? It's been too long since I lived in Canada so I don't remember all the details.

Neserk
Jul 19, 2004, 05:30 PM
I just love how often I can get a rise out of some folks here in the USA by using the term "socialist" in a positive light.

Considering the number of Christians in the USA it shouldn't be an issue. Jesus was a socialist after all. Maybe not in the sense of having it on his card in his wallet, but in practice.

pseudobrit
Jul 19, 2004, 07:09 PM
Considering the number of Christians in the USA it shouldn't be an issue. Jesus was a socialist after all. Maybe not in the sense of having it on his card in his wallet, but in practice.

And you know what good God fearing capitalist Christians would say if someone like Jesus showed up saying the things he said... why, the pinko commie would be tossed in jail for something! Maybe if mob rule had ahold of the town they might even turn him over to the hordes of angry God-fearing souls just looking to discipline a Commie blasphemer.

mischief
Jul 20, 2004, 10:27 AM
And you know what good God fearing capitalist Christians would say if someone like Jesus showed up saying the things he said... why, the pinko commie would be tossed in jail for something! Maybe if mob rule had ahold of the town they might even turn him over to the hordes of angry God-fearing souls just looking to discipline a Commie blasphemer.


Man, every time I see a WWJD? bumper sticker I think to myself: "Kick a lot of "Christian" and Judaic fundamentalist ass."

The guy would be PISSED at how misrepresented he's become and he'd be appalled at what Peter wrought through his own prejudices.