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MacBytes
Oct 10, 2009, 06:53 PM
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sgntscrawn
Oct 10, 2009, 09:31 PM
Apple has a good chunk of the consumer market already, if it gets a toe-hold in the enterprise market like this, I can see it having just as big an overall market share that microsoft has now.

Go apple!

jav6454
Oct 10, 2009, 09:35 PM
Finally, the gov't is thinking how to make things work.

Xibalba
Oct 11, 2009, 01:12 AM
it would be a major overhaul for the government to actually "go" apple but smaller modular projects like this security surveillance would be simpler to integrate.

reading this makes me wonder what OS the government computers run in the high security areas besides the windows clients.

Winni
Oct 11, 2009, 06:53 AM
it would be a major overhaul for the government to actually "go" apple but smaller modular projects like this security surveillance would be simpler to integrate.

reading this makes me wonder what OS the government computers run in the high security areas besides the windows clients.

You know that - unlike OS X - Windows Server has been C2 and B1 certified, which is -the- required security standard that a platform has to meet before it can be used by the US military. Of course, C2 and B1 are for certain configurations, and those are not the out-of-the-box default configurations. Furthermore, C2 is for non-networked, standalone computers, but B1 is for networked machines. Microsoft went through the whole mill to get those labels on Windows.

Most of the other systems will be Unixes like Solaris and (Open)BSD and mainframe operating systems like OS390.

Winni
Oct 11, 2009, 07:03 AM
Apple has a good chunk of the consumer market already, if it gets a toe-hold in the enterprise market like this, I can see it having just as big an overall market share that microsoft has now.

Go apple!

It's not going to happen. Apple has two significant disadvantages:
- They're a hardware company that only produces software to sell their hardware. And choosing Apple means accepting a double vendor-lock in. Whereas with Microsoft, you are free to choose whatever hardware vendor you want.

- Apple does not have the product portfolio to cover the needs of any large organization or corporation. Microsoft has the full software package and their OEMs have the full hardware package. Then there is the third party ecosystem around the Windows platform that provides all the missing parts. Apple has neither the software nor the hardware nor the third party ecosystem that is necessary to supply this market.

Microsoft had to become like IBM to become the enterprise player that they are today. If Apple wanted to successfully enter this market, they also had to become a whole lot more like IBM, Apple, Sun and Oracle. Steve Jobs already failed twice here: The Apple II (and the early Mac) lost against the IBM PC, and NeXT (where Steve Jobs still wore a tie) wasn't able to get a foot into the enterprise business either. The iPod - not even an original idea - was what saved Apple.

No. Apple is a consumer brand and they finally know - and accepted - it.